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kittygilchrist
03-07-2015, 10:16 AM
This will be the second year I grow butterfly plants next to the golf course.
Last year I raised over 6 dozen monarchs, whiose species is slated to be on the endangered list.
Yesterday, four golfers were in my garden after a ball. The ball was retrieved from where it nearly touched the lanai by a man who did not see my plants.

Dearhearts, please consider that you are on someones private space where they have an intention that you may violate by trampling.

redwitch
03-07-2015, 10:59 AM
Maybe a warning sign .... Golf ball seekers will be pelted onsite (pun intended)?

Sadly, I think this is one of those things where it is up to the character of the player. Some would never dream of going on your property. Others would never dream of not retrieving their ball. Maybe would be best to find another spot for your garden?

kittygilchrist
03-07-2015, 11:03 AM
Maybe a warning sign .... Golf ball seekers will be pelted onsite (pun intended)?

Sadly, I think this is one of those things where it is up to the character of the player. Some would never dream of going on your property. Others would never dream of not retrieving their ball. Maybe would be best to find another spot for your garden?

Dee, I am not retreating. Asking for respect.

villagetinker
03-07-2015, 11:10 AM
How about a sign, please do not retrieve balls from yard, if allowed.

dewilson58
03-07-2015, 11:19 AM
How about a sign, please do not retrieve balls from yard, if allowed.

I agree.

I'm the golfer who..............if I hit it into a yard, and it's sitting there in the grass in plain sight I will retrieve it (I hate to think about the lawnmower firing a ball into a window, person, or pet). But if I don't see it, I will leave it. But, But..........if there is a sign, I will do what is wished.

George Bieniaszek
03-07-2015, 12:43 PM
How about a well aimed "Super Soaker" when they are bending down to look for their ball :)

"Whoops -- I'm sorry!! I was just watering my landscaping!!!"

cms36
03-07-2015, 12:52 PM
I think I read in the latest Villages magazine that said never go into a back yard to retrieve a ball.

jnieman
03-07-2015, 01:00 PM
This will be the second year I grow butterfly plants next to the golf course.
Last year I raised over 6 dozen monarchs, whiose species is slated to be on the endangered list.
Yesterday, four golfers were in my garden after a ball. The ball was retrieved from where it nearly touched the lanai by a man who did not see my plants.

Dearhearts, please consider that you are on someones private space where they have an intention that you may violate by trampling.

Amazon.com : Stay Off Lawn Yard Sign-By Duke Za Daisy : Stay Off Grass Sign : Patio, Lawn & Garden

cute little sign that gets the point across

ugotme
03-07-2015, 01:11 PM
I do not live on a golf course but would never go into a garden for a ball.
As Dewilson stated if it is "right there" on the lawn and I can reach it to grab it fine,
but to go through your garden - never.

Some people don't think or care.
My favorite expression - "You can't fix stupid."

Polar Bear
03-07-2015, 01:54 PM
I agree.

I'm the golfer who..............if I hit it into a yard, and it's sitting there in the grass in plain sight I will retrieve it (I hate to think about the lawnmower firing a ball into a window, person, or pet). But if I don't see it, I will leave it. But, But..........if there is a sign, I will do what is wished.
That's my approach also.

wholman66
03-07-2015, 02:33 PM
I live on a golf course, I don't mind someone reaching into my yard to retrieve a ball, I do however mind someone in my flower beds or searching between the houses.

Sanibel7
03-07-2015, 06:06 PM
I live on a golf course, I don't mind someone reaching into my yard to retrieve a ball, I do however mind someone in my flower beds or searching between the houses.

Look I also Live on a Golf course and Guess what.. The Rules are the Rules... Do not enter a residents yard..end of story.. If you are playing golf.. you are restricted to the course.. you have paid to be on the course.. Out of Bounds is exactly that.. Not on the course.. Keep Out. I have been gardening in the yard and been hit with a ball and guess what.. Not even a courtesy FORE was yelled. I am really sick and tired of those who think they can do what they want where ever.. I've even had a Resident. walk into my lanai off the golf course and change the channel on my Tv to get the Football scores that he wanted to see.. End of story Please respect all who live here.. do not enter anyone else's property Please

JoMar
03-07-2015, 07:31 PM
Played Bonifay today with some visitors. The Ambassador that checked us in at Fort Walton made it clear that the yards are private property and that we are not to go into their yards to retrieve balls. My personal opinion, when it comes to respecting a persons property or a golf ball the respect for the property comes first. If the owner is on their Lanai or outside I will ask if I can retrieve it but if they say no....then it's no. Compare it to a stranger walking past your house and they see something on your property that interests them and they just walk up to look at it......would you think that's ok?

Mleeja
03-07-2015, 07:32 PM
Look I also Live on a Golf course and Guess what.. The Rules are the Rules... Do not enter a residents yard..end of story.. If you are playing golf.. you are restricted to the course.. you have paid to be on the course.. Out of Bounds is exactly that.. Not on the course.. Keep Out. I have been gardening in the yard and been hit with a ball and guess what.. Not even a courtesy FORE was yelled. I am really sick and tired of those who think they can do what they want where ever.. I've even had a Resident. walk into my lanai off the golf course and change the channel on my Tv to get the Football scores that he wanted to see.. End of story Please respect all who live here.. do not enter anyone else's property Please

I agree with what you are writing. However you chose to live on the golf
course. You have to expect this to happen. If a ball is in plain sight, I have no problem with the player retrieving the ball. Hunting for it in a garden is a different story. Entering your lanai...is trespassing and takes the discusdion to a whole new level. Someone who does something like this should have thier balls removed. If you catch my drift....

Pepperhead
03-07-2015, 07:36 PM
I agree with what you are writing. However you chose to live on the golf
course. You have to expect this to happen. If a ball is in plain sight, I have no problem with the player retrieving the ball. Hunting for it in a garden is a different story. Entering your lanai...is trespassing and takes the discusdion to a whole new level. Someone who does something like this should have thier balls removed. If you catch my drift....



Living on a golf course implies that one should expect golf balls on their property, not golfers.

Sanibel7
03-07-2015, 07:56 PM
Living on a golf course implies that one should expect golf balls on their property, not golfers.

Well said, and its in the rule book and in the paper, DO NOT RETRIEVE GOLF BALLS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

tommy steam
03-07-2015, 08:13 PM
Do all the Ambassadors on the different courses remind the players to keep out of residents yards? Maybe a reminder at the beginning of play would help.

fred53
03-07-2015, 09:27 PM
I agree.

I'm the golfer who..............if I hit it into a yard, and it's sitting there in the grass in plain sight I will retrieve it (I hate to think about the lawnmower firing a ball into a window, person, or pet). But if I don't see it, I will leave it. But, But..........if there is a sign, I will do what is wished.

else's property to retrieve a poorly hit golf shot...and a mower flinging the ball is not only unlikely, but a poor excuse for trespassing.

The village rules(as the rules for this most everywhere)state that you are not allowed to get your ball from someones lawn/property...unfortunately there are many others who have no respect for others property so you see it all the time...a shame that some adults can not obey even the simple rules...

Jim 9922
03-07-2015, 09:34 PM
We've lived on a course for several years and what happens never ceases to amaze. A few highlights: one afternoon a 3 foot hole of broken branches appeared in our 5 foot high azalea bushes, someone apparently fell in (but thank goodness, we were never sued for not having handrails); at least twice a year several feet of bedding flowers have been trampled or crushed by people falling over or rummaging thru trying to retrieve a ball (again no handrails); one day while sitting in the lanai a golfer came over and asked if we had a step ladder he could" quickly borrow" to retrieve a ball from the neighbor's gutter (it's true, no lie!); and the best is the guy driving his golf cart between the houses and into the front lawn looking for his ball: when confronted he stated his disability golf sticker allowed him to go anywhere. Our front yard is 75 yards from the fairway. I'd be pretty embarrassed if I missed the golf course by that much. I guess you can't fix stupid!
One thing we noticed, Winter golfers are much worse and disrespectful of property and property lines than the Summer golfers. In the winter we always have a few divots taken out of our back yard where people have played them where they lie, irrespective of where the out of bonds markers are.:throwtomatoes:

dbussone
03-07-2015, 09:44 PM
We've lived on a course for several years and what happens never ceases to amaze. A few highlights: one afternoon a 3 foot hole of broken branches appeared in our 5 foot high azalea bushes, someone apparently fell in (but thank goodness, we were never sued for not having handrails); at least twice a year several feet of bedding flowers have been trampled or crushed by people falling over or rummaging thru trying to retrieve a ball (again no handrails); one day while sitting in the lanai a golfer came over and asked if we had a step ladder he could" quickly borrow" to retrieve a ball from the neighbor's gutter (it's true, no lie!); and the best is the guy driving his golf cart between the houses and into the front lawn looking for his ball: when confronted he stated his disability golf sticker allowed him to go anywhere. Our front yard is 75 yards from the fairway. I'd be pretty embarrassed if I missed the golf course by that much. I guess you can't fix stupid!
One thing we noticed, Winter golfers are much worse and disrespectful of property and property lines than the Summer golfers. In the winter we always have a few divots taken out of our back yard where people have played them where they lie, irrespective of where the out of bonds markers are.:throwtomatoes:

We lived on a TPC course prior to moving here to TV. From the leading edge of our property to the par 3 4th green was about 100 yards. Our backyard was enclosed by a fence about 48 inches high (HOA approved). I got such a kick out of watching golfers try to retrieve their ball from our yard, after they realized the gate was locked. What really was a hoot was the number of balls that landed up near our deck which was about 150 yards from the green. I'm not a particularly good golfer but I enjoy laughing at myself when I make a shot that bad.

Jayhawk
03-07-2015, 09:55 PM
Living on a golf course implies that one should expect golf balls on their property, not golfers.

Living according to this logic would make it seem that if someone's golf ball breaks a window, they should just just take a penalty drop and move on. Surely those who don't want golfers retrieving their balls from the yard would not want them to ignore a broken window by "staying out of the yard"?

"Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it." - Rodney King

Miles42
03-08-2015, 12:17 AM
I do not go on someones private property to retrieve a golf ball. If I mi**** it on your ground it is yours and I am sorry.

Barefoot
03-08-2015, 12:43 AM
Dee, I am not retreating. Asking for respect.
.... its in the rule book and in the paper, DO NOT RETRIEVE GOLF BALLS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
No-one should trespass on private property.
Please treat your neighbors with the respect they deserve!

Bay Kid
03-08-2015, 06:43 AM
I have butterfly bushes in Virginia. I enjoy all kinds of butterflies, but none as beautiful as the monarchs. Thank you for sending some north!

john1953
03-08-2015, 07:15 AM
For some reason people do not like to lose a golf ball,I think they rather lose their spouse then a damn cheap golf ball.If its out of bounds no matter what sign is their they will get that ball.That will never change with some golfers,sad but true.My rule is NEVER retrieve a out of bounds golf ball NEVER.I don`t care if its in plain site and the owners of the house are up north,that ball will stay their as far as I`am concerned.And if its in bounds and I can`t find it within 10 seconds I drop another ball and play on.I NEVER retrieve a ball out of water also.

spring_chicken
03-08-2015, 07:24 AM
It's not just in TV. I lived on country club courses twice back home and it happened on a daily basis during the summer.
That's why I chose not to live on a golf course here. It's going to happen. Always has, always will.

Mleeja
03-08-2015, 07:56 AM
For some reason people do not like to lose a golf ball,I think they rather lose their spouse then a damn cheap golf ball.If its out of bounds no matter what sign is their they will get that ball.That will never change with some golfers,sad but true.My rule is NEVER retrieve a out of bounds golf ball NEVER.I don`t care if its in plain site and the owners of the house are up north,that ball will stay their as far as I`am concerned.And if its in bounds and I can`t find it within 10 seconds I drop another ball and play on.I NEVER retrieve a ball out of water also.

So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

dbussone
03-08-2015, 08:08 AM
Living according to this logic would make it seem that if someone's golf ball breaks a window, they should just just take a penalty drop and move on. Surely those who don't want golfers retrieving their balls from the yard would not want them to ignore a broken window by "staying out of the yard"?

"Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it." - Rodney King

Interesting you should bring this up. The presumption on many courses is that if your window gets broken by an errant ball, it is not the golfer's responsibility to pay for the repair. Rather it is the problem of the home owner who elected to have a house on a golf course. This is the way it was on the course at our last home. Of course a golfer could always elect to assist in paying for damages.

keywest
03-08-2015, 08:23 AM
So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

YES...that is what the rule states...if YOUR ball passes the golf course boundry line....it is NO LONGER your ball and you forfeit it. I agree with the other poster who says we must have some real cheap golfers if you cannot afford to lose your ball, then maybe golf is a bit too expensive for you to play.

Cisco Kid
03-08-2015, 08:28 AM
golf should be banned from TV

dewilson58
03-08-2015, 08:32 AM
So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

I agree, use common sense......but it appears there are some within TV that have no common sense.

graciegirl
03-08-2015, 08:34 AM
For some reason people do not like to lose a golf ball,I think they rather lose their spouse then a damn cheap golf ball.If its out of bounds no matter what sign is their they will get that ball.That will never change with some golfers,sad but true.My rule is NEVER retrieve a out of bounds golf ball NEVER.I don`t care if its in plain site and the owners of the house are up north,that ball will stay their as far as I`am concerned.And if its in bounds and I can`t find it within 10 seconds I drop another ball and play on.I NEVER retrieve a ball out of water also.

golf should be banned from TV


I love you Cisco. But that's not funny.


We have a sign in our den that says;


Golf is not a matter of life or death.
It is much more serious than that.

Mleeja
03-08-2015, 09:00 AM
YES...that is what the rule states...if YOUR ball passes the golf course boundry line....it is NO LONGER your ball and you forfeit it. I agree with the other poster who says we must have some real cheap golfers if you cannot afford to lose your ball, then maybe golf is a bit too expensive for you to play.

So going back to an eariler post, based on your logic and comment as soon as that golf ball crosses that "line" and is no longer in the course, breaking a window, it is not your ball any longer? It belongs to the universe and you are not responsible for the damage?

Cisco Kid
03-08-2015, 09:11 AM
I love you Cisco. But that's not funny.


We have a sign in our den that says;


Golf is not a matter of life or death.
It is much more serious than that.

If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:

dewilson58
03-08-2015, 09:16 AM
If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:

But you will not be able to retrieve little poop that is six inches out of bounds..........that would be trespassing.

:a20:

graciegirl
03-08-2015, 09:17 AM
If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:


You know I love dogs. But I also love golf and adore my golfer.

Heaven on earth is seeing him after all those long hours and years working, playing golf as much as he wants.

OH...we are off the subject.

Stay out of Kitty's yard. She is a black belt.

Greg Nelson
03-08-2015, 09:35 AM
I buy cheap Wilson balls. We rent on the 4th hole of the Nancy Lopez course. we're happy that the cart trail goes behind some bushes...no noise

dewilson58
03-08-2015, 09:40 AM
I buy cheap Wilson balls. We rent on the 4th hole of the Nancy Lopez course. we're happy that the cart trail goes behind some bushes...no noise

Not all Wilson balls are cheap!!!!!

:a20:

Polar Bear
03-08-2015, 09:43 AM
So you drive up to your ball and you see it is 6 inches beyond the out of bounds stake. You are not going to retieve the ball? Just leave it?

There has to be some common sense applied here. Respect the owners property, but if a ball is retrievable without stomping on gardens, going up next to the house, do so with respect.

Yep.

I wonder how many golf-front homeowners would mind the ball Mleeza describes being respectfully retrieved?

RedChariot
03-08-2015, 09:48 AM
If all the Golf Courses were turned into dog parks, TV would be a true heaven on earth. :a20:

My lawn would appreciate that! As would I.

justjim
03-08-2015, 10:06 AM
Having owned three houses on golf courses During our lifetime, I will never retrieve a ball from somebody's residence along the course. It breaks my wife's "heart" but she agrees!

Mleeja
03-08-2015, 10:22 AM
I would think that i could bend over and pick up the ball or knock it out out the yard with a club, the owners would appericate that more than leaving the ball and having the lawn mower launch through a window.

I agree with the original poster that folks should not be conducting a search though her garden looking for a lost ball, but I also believe that those who are saying they NEVER retrieve a lost ball are full of something other than themselves.

JoMar
03-08-2015, 04:29 PM
Living according to this logic would make it seem that if someone's golf ball breaks a window, they should just just take a penalty drop and move on. Surely those who don't want golfers retrieving their balls from the yard would not want them to ignore a broken window by "staying out of the yard"?

"Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it." - Rodney King

Well that's a bit silly, lets make damage equal to a ball laying the in grass therefore the rule can be ignored.

JoMar
03-08-2015, 04:30 PM
Having owned three houses on golf courses During our lifetime, I will never retrieve a ball from somebody's residence along the course. It breaks my wife's "heart" but she agrees!

Breaks her heart because she may lose a ball or breaks her heart that she agrees with you?:wave:

Oneiric
03-08-2015, 04:49 PM
Why can't common sense and the Golden Rule be applied? When people hit a ball in my back yard and they just walk in and quickly retrieve it and leave, I don't mind at all.

kittygilchrist
03-08-2015, 07:26 PM
Why can't common sense and the Golden Rule be applied? When people hit a ball in my back yard and they just walk in and quickly retrieve it and leave, I don't mind at all.

Or did they unknowingly kill with a step a prized young native butterfly plant they thought was a weed? Was A monarch worm crawling toward a new food source squashed? Back yards are soooo tiny. It is private proprty and unconscionable for golfers to claim it as theirs to own.

If the golden rule means to you that only your perspective about turf makes sense...please consider that some people love life above the grass.

kcrazorbackfan
03-08-2015, 08:06 PM
Why can't common sense and the Golden Rule be applied? When people hit a ball in my back yard and they just walk in and quickly retrieve it and leave, I don't mind at all.

Those with the "gold" (their property), make the rules. It's the homeowners property, not the golfers. Don't tread in people's yards. Most of the golfers are probably looking for a $.25 secondhand Top Flite anyway.

john1953
03-09-2015, 05:48 AM
not going on someones property means just that,6 inches is on the property I don`t touch it ever.

graciegirl
03-09-2015, 05:59 AM
We have lived in golf course communities for decades. The first one had a beautiful house with a myriad of windows built on a turn of the golf course.(NOT OURS)

EVERYONE in the community including all who liked the guy who built it there called him stupid.

How you look at it depends if you are a golfer, a beginner who doesn't play by the rules, a non golfer who plants things near the back edge of their property, hoping for humankind to be nice, or a realist.

I've searched for lost balls in places I shouldn't sometimes, in the water, in the heavy bullrushes where there are snakes, but not in people's yards. But only for a minute or two. I have been playing with the same pink ball now for almost a year.

Fortunatly/ unfortunately I don't hit them long enough anymore to lose track of them. When you hit a ball out of bounds you are supposed to....Well you know. Stroke and distance. The casual golf played on executive courses where most people don't even keep score is unlike the golf most of us grew up on.

NO ONE should come into your yard. It is not nice.

I am sorry about your butterfly plants Kitty. But even bad golfers who aren't nice are loved by the butterfly maker.

OBXNana
03-09-2015, 02:39 PM
Before anyone steps foot on a golf course they should be required to attend Good Golf School offered by The Villages. It was clearly explained the policy for golfers that hit a ball into the yard of a property owner. No discussion, the rule says you can not go on to private property to fetch a ball. We decided to purchase a villa so that golfers couldn't get into our yard. It shouldn't be that way, but not everyone follows the rules.

Mleeja
03-09-2015, 03:03 PM
Ya know no really answered my question for a few post back. This is not a black and white topic, there is a lot of gray.

If I can stand in the golf course and reach over and pickup my ball or use my five iron to knock it back to me, it this considered tresspassing in someones yard? My fingers or club will not even disburb a blade of grass and I have not entered into someone yard.

TheVillageChicken
03-09-2015, 03:08 PM
Ya know no really answered my question for a few post back. This is not a black and white topic, there is a lot of gray.

If I can stand in the golf course and reach over and pickup my ball or use my five iron to knock it back to me, it this considered tresspassing in someones yard? My fingers or club will not even disburb a blade of grass and I have not entered into someone yard.

I hate to brag, but I am not a lawyer.

graciegirl
03-09-2015, 03:56 PM
I hate to brag, but I am not a lawyer.


OH PLEASE....let me steal that line!!!!!!

I love it!!!

newguyintv
03-09-2015, 04:25 PM
This will be the second year I grow butterfly plants next to the golf course.
Last year I raised over 6 dozen monarchs, whiose species is slated to be on the endangered list.
Yesterday, four golfers were in my garden after a ball. The ball was retrieved from where it nearly touched the lanai by a man who did not see my plants.

Dearhearts, please consider that you are on someones private space where they have an intention that you may violate by trampling.

If a ball was retrieved and the offending golfer didn't trample your rare butterfly plants which to the average Joe might look like weeds, what's the big deal? Grin and bear it.

kittygilchrist
03-09-2015, 05:49 PM
If a ball was retrieved and the offending golfer didn't trample your rare butterfly plants which to the average Joe might look like weeds, what's the big deal? Grin and bear it.
Making assumptions ,when I do it, often ends in humility and regret that I spoke without knowledge or understanding. Assuming that no harm was done is an error.

Fraugoofy
03-09-2015, 06:58 PM
I am an avid golfer and I think it is just plain common courtesy to leave private property just that: private!

Polar Bear
03-09-2015, 07:01 PM
I respect other people's property I believe as much as anyone. But if a ball is clearly visible, in open grass, just a matter of feet across the OB/property line, I think it is very reasonable for the golfer who hit that ball to retrieve it as quickly and innocuously as possible. I don't believe a golf-front property owner should be subject to unreasonable intrusion, but I believe that much is reasonable and to be expected.

JRichm369
03-09-2015, 08:13 PM
We live on a golf course, it more so about courtesy, if the ball is in plain and accessible place and if you are not harming anything pick up your ball, get back in bounds and take the one stroke penalty like a good golfer. If you need to go and beat the bushes shame on you.

Polar Bear
03-09-2015, 08:18 PM
We live on a golf course, it more so about courtesy, if the ball is in plain and accessible place and if you are not harming anything pick up your ball, get back in bounds and take the one stroke penalty like a good golfer. If you need to go and beat the bushes shame on you.

Now there is a reasonable golf-front homeowner. :)

redwitch
03-09-2015, 08:29 PM
Kitty, I think the problem is that most golfers are going to pick up a ball they can easily see and reach. They don't mean to do harm, they probably think they're doing the owner a favor by not leaving the ball. You may have gotten the message out on TOTV but there are far more golfers here that have never even heard of this site.

I would say your best bet is to have some signs letting golfers know they are not welcome to retrieve balls or something to the effect you have fragile plants, do not disturb. It's a shame you have to do something like this, but if folks think they are doing you a kindness by retrieving their ball, you need to find a way to get the message across. Of course, the dolts who would search bushes are not going to stop regardless.

Chellybean
03-09-2015, 10:18 PM
Well here is something that will raise your hair on the back of your neck.
The other day a golfer came 50' on my property to retrieve a ball 2' from a camera and 4' from a private property sign.
I was dressing in the bedroom when he walked by.
i immediately address him on the lanai and said SIR you are out of bounds. his reply was "LIGHTEN UP A*SHOLE"
Now this is a continuous over the last 2 years, I have been addressing it with the head of the golf courses in the Villages hired by the Mor*se.
Their have been tee box adjustments fairway have been over seeded with rye grass to give a better direction for the golfers.
But the course had a error by the surveyor and the construction of one of the holes and as the were building it it ended up 50' away from a hole and it was clear that they made a mistake.
This was found out recently and i became very disturbed. However it is now all clear in why i have 10 balls a day on my property sometimes.
Well needless to say i am at my wit's ends with disrespectful golfers which the golf course is responsible for there action and don't believe what they tell you, the head of the golf courses told me this today.
"Additionally as we’ve discussed, we do our best to educate golfers to respect the privacy of those homes adjacent to course property. However, in the end, we have no control over golfers actions and cannot be responsible for them. Ultimately this is a matter between the golfer and homeowner when it comes to any damage or trespassing matters"
Don't believe that nonsense from anyone at the courses or any representative of the god almighty.
I am thinking of forming a committee to address this with all of us that has had to put up with this behavior and starting a class action lawsuit.
There can be a deterrent's by put signs up at golf starter shacks, but i am told that may offend someone.
Well what about our right to reasonable privacy.
I don't mind a golfer coming in 2 or 3 feet to retrieve a ball, but the other day they where in my neighbors 25k landscaping standing on his bushes, i said really is a ball worth dis respecting someones property, he said something sarcastic and throw two balls on my lawn that had damage to them, apparently they weren't good enough for him.
Lets see how much trouble this starts in his post. I have had enough in the attitude around here from disrespectful golfers.

Polar Bear
03-09-2015, 11:13 PM
Well here is something that will raise your hair on the back of your neck.
The other day a golfer came 50' on my property to retrieve a ball 2' from a camera and 4' from a private property sign.
I was dressing in the bedroom when he walked by.
i immediately address him on the lanai and said SIR you are out of bounds. his reply was "LIGHTEN UP A*SHOLE"
Now this is a continuous over the last 2 years, I have been addressing it with the head of the golf courses in the Villages hired by the Mor*se.
Their have been tee box adjustments fairway have been over seeded with rye grass to give a better direction for the golfers.
But the course had a error by the surveyor and the construction of one of the holes and as the were building it it ended up 50' away from a hole and it was clear that they made a mistake.
This was found out recently and i became very disturbed. However it is now all clear in why i have 10 balls a day on my property sometimes.
Well needless to say i am at my wit's ends with disrespectful golfers which the golf course is responsible for there action and don't believe what they tell you, the head of the golf courses told me this today.
"Additionally as we’ve discussed, we do our best to educate golfers to respect the privacy of those homes adjacent to course property. However, in the end, we have no control over golfers actions and cannot be responsible for them. Ultimately this is a matter between the golfer and homeowner when it comes to any damage or trespassing matters"
Don't believe that nonsense from anyone at the courses or any representative of the god almighty.
I am thinking of forming a committee to address this with all of us that has had to put up with this behavior and starting a class action lawsuit.
There can be a deterrent's by put signs up at golf starter shacks, but i am told that may offend someone.
Well what about our right to reasonable privacy.
I don't mind a golfer coming in 2 or 3 feet to retrieve a ball, but the other day they where in my neighbors 25k landscaping standing on his bushes, i said really is a ball worth dis respecting someones property, he said something sarcastic and throw two balls on my lawn that had damage to them, apparently they weren't good enough for him.
Lets see how much trouble this starts in his post. I have had enough in the attitude around here from disrespectful golfers.
I don't think it will start much trouble at all...at least from the respectful golfers. You said you "don't mind a golfer coming in 2 or 3 feet to retrieve a ball". That's all the respectful golfer asks.

I understand your issues with the disrespectful ones. Thankfully, as in most types of bad behavior, those who offend are a small minority.

jebartle
03-10-2015, 02:05 AM
I use to have dog-pooping regulars until I put out three little signs, "Please No Pets"...some people need a reminder.




How about a sign, please do not retrieve balls from yard, if allowed.

Chellybean
03-10-2015, 07:12 AM
I use to have dog-pooping regulars until I put out three little signs, "Please No Pets"...some people need a reminder.

i have 3 private property signs on the lot line which is also clearly marked with bushes and landscaping lights also along the lot line.
The declination line is clearly marked.
I am just fed up with how it is being handled from the powers to be and it will turn into a lawsuit if this isn't addressed shortly.
The folks who purchased viewed lot on the golf course paid dearly for that benefit. At the sales of the property at closing no one told us that this problem existed or that it would not be handle by the powers to be. A simple sign at the starter shack could solve alot of the problems "Please stay off private property" and even a reminder sign at each one of the hole also can be a reminder. I think if someone then retrieved there ball 30' to 50' in, then it would be a great embarrassment and no excuse for there action that they weren't aware of the rules.
However the Golf course can not take an attitude it is between the golfer and home owner when they profit from allowing golfers on the course. That is absurd.

graciegirl
03-10-2015, 07:22 AM
i have 3 private property signs on the lot line which is also clearly marked with bushes and landscaping lights also along the lot line.
The declination line is clearly marked.
I am just fed up with how it is being handled from the powers to be and it will turn into a lawsuit if this isn't addressed shortly.
The folks who purchased viewed lot on the golf course paid dearly for that benefit. At the sales of the property at closing no one told us that this problem existed or that it would not be handle by the powers to be. A simple sign at the starter shack could solve alot of the problems "Please stay off private property" and even a reminder sign at each one of the hole also can be a reminder. I think if someone then retrieved there ball 30' to 50' in, then it would be a great embarrassment and no excuse for there action that they weren't aware of the rules.
However the Golf course can not take an attitude it is between the golfer and home owner when they profit from allowing golfers on the course. That is absurd.

I am thinking it may feed your lawyers. When you bought on a golf course.....

Gracie.

Responsible golfers just like responsible pet owners won't come into your property. You have a right to expect them not to, but living on a golf course was the choice you made. It was there when you bought. I am sorry you are being so badly treated by everyone.

Someone who has been living close to golf courses for more than forty years.

dewilson58
03-10-2015, 07:28 AM
We live on a golf course, it more so about courtesy, if the ball is in plain and accessible place and if you are not harming anything pick up your ball, get back in bounds and take the one stroke penalty like a good golfer. If you need to go and beat the bushes shame on you.

Lived on a golf course most of my life. This was/is my attitude as well.

There are all types of homeowners and all types of golfers. The extreme's don't get alone.........nothing new.

Just like when I was growing up, there was "one" in my neighborhood......a grumpy old man (probably in his 50's :o) that you knew you could not go into his yard to retrieve your frisbee or ball. However, most neighbor's were nice, understanding, and happy.

Back to the OP.............stay out of gardens.

Chi-Town
03-10-2015, 07:51 AM
It's obvious that some people would have been better off with a preserve or water view. But I think most people who chose to live on a golf course like not only the view but also the concept. And the few drawbacks are vastly compensated by the advantages.

Chellybean
03-10-2015, 07:55 AM
It's obvious that some people would have been better off with a preserve or water view. But I think most people who chose to live on a golf course like not only the view but also the concept. And the few drawbacks are vastly compensated by the advantages.

Yes if it was a few drawbacks, but on a daily basis is unacceptable!

Sandtrap328
03-28-2015, 03:41 PM
Well here is something that will raise your hair on the back of your neck.
The other day a golfer came 50' on my property to retrieve a ball 2' from a camera and 4' from a private property sign.
I was dressing in the bedroom when he walked by.
i immediately address him on the lanai and said SIR you are out of bounds. his reply was "LIGHTEN UP A*SHOLE"
Now this is a continuous over the last 2 years, I have been addressing it with the head of the golf courses in the Villages hired by the Mor*se.
Their have been tee box adjustments fairway have been over seeded with rye grass to give a better direction for the golfers.
But the course had a error by the surveyor and the construction of one of the holes and as the were building it it ended up 50' away from a hole and it was clear that they made a mistake.
This was found out recently and i became very disturbed. However it is now all clear in why i have 10 balls a day on my property sometimes.
Well needless to say i am at my wit's ends with disrespectful golfers which the golf course is responsible for there action and don't believe what they tell you, the head of the golf courses told me this today.
"Additionally as we’ve discussed, we do our best to educate golfers to respect the privacy of those homes adjacent to course property. However, in the end, we have no control over golfers actions and cannot be responsible for them. Ultimately this is a matter between the golfer and homeowner when it comes to any damage or trespassing matters"
Don't believe that nonsense from anyone at the courses or any representative of the god almighty.
I am thinking of forming a committee to address this with all of us that has had to put up with this behavior and starting a class action lawsuit.
There can be a deterrent's by put signs up at golf starter shacks, but i am told that may offend someone.
Well what about our right to reasonable privacy.
I don't mind a golfer coming in 2 or 3 feet to retrieve a ball, but the other day they where in my neighbors 25k landscaping standing on his bushes, i said really is a ball worth dis respecting someones property, he said something sarcastic and throw two balls on my lawn that had damage to them, apparently they weren't good enough for him.
Lets see how much trouble this starts in his post. I have had enough in the attitude around here from disrespectful golfers.

I am sure you could sell for a very tidy profit and buy in another area - in The Villages - or not, and choose a lot that has a marsh or lake view.

No need to be unhappy.

Shimpy
03-28-2015, 05:16 PM
A friend of mine in Parkland Fla. had problems with raccoons going thru the pool screen to get to the cat food left there while he was away. He bought on the internet a motion sensor that hooked up to sprinkler system and he hasn't had any intrusions since. I would think getting doused by smelly sprinkler water would be a deterrent.

DonH57
03-28-2015, 06:40 PM
A friend of mine in Parkland Fla. had problems with raccoons going thru the pool screen to get to the cat food left there while he was away. He bought on the internet a motion sensor that hooked up to sprinkler system and he hasn't had any intrusions since. I would think getting doused by smelly sprinkler water would be a deterrent.

Sounds like fun to watch to me. I'll bring the beer and popcorn.:BigApplause: