Day/DARK Savings??????

[jebartle]

Wow, 7:25 and a little dark for 7:45 tee time...Need a Miner's hat for golf.:22yikes:

[Wiserbud47]

I am glad someone else does not like it when Daylight Savings time causes people in FL to have to wait until around 7:40 to see any sunlight. FL is so far west of the Eastern time zone that we get very late sunrises. AZ and HI have already passed laws that eliminate Daylight Savings time and I think FL should do it also. The changing of the clocks twice a year also causes people to have sleeping problems for awhile each time. I see very few benefits from Daylight Savings time and many more negatives. I think the residents of FL would be better off with Eastern Standard time all year long.

[Bogie Shooter]

I like it.

[Grandfinch]

I am glad someone else does not like it when Daylight Savings time causes people in FL to have to wait until around 7:40 to see any sunlight. FL is so far west of the Eastern time zone that we get very late sunrises. AZ and HI have already passed laws that eliminate Daylight Savings time and I think FL should do it also. The changing of the clocks twice a year also causes people to have sleeping problems for awhile each time. I see very few benefits from Daylight Savings time and many more negatives. I think the residents of FL would be better off with Eastern Standard time all year long.

Ditto.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I say split the difference and push them back 1/2 hour this fall and leave them.

[dbussone]

I say split the difference and push them back 1/2 hour this fall and leave them.


Excellent idea! I really dislike these back and forth 1 hour swings. Try telling your dog he has to wait an extra hour before he can go out and then eat.

Go Red Sox!

[Regor]

Oh for crying out loud! Twice a year it's the same ol'bi#@*ing. The dog will survive and make a later tee time!

[TrudyM]

What about all the grandkids waiting for the bus in the dark.

[kcrazorbackfan]

What about all the grandkids waiting for the bus in the dark.

Most of us that lived in the country did that and we turned out good; also, kids had to go get a switch when we did wrong and we caused nowhere near the problems kids do nowadays.

[dbussone]

Oh for crying out loud! Twice a year it's the same ol'bi#@*ing. The dog will survive and make a later tee time!

The dog will survive. But I don't like it. Get over it.

[Villages PL]

I didn't have a problem adjusting to it. I changed all my clocks at 7:30 in the evening and I got up the next morning at my usual time.

[Shimpy]

. AZ and HI have already passed laws that eliminate Daylight Savings time and I think FL should do it also. The changing of the clocks twice a year also causes people to have sleeping problems for awhile each time. I see very few benefits from Daylight Savings time and many more negatives. I think the residents of FL would be better off with Eastern Standard time all year long.

I agree 100%. Tell the government to leave the clocks alone and let nature regulate how much daylight we have.

[dbussone]

I agree 100%. Tell the government to leave the clocks alone and let nature regulate how much daylight we have.

I believe there is a bill before the FL legislature at this time to eliminate time changes. Here is some additional information since there is NO scientific data supporting changes one way or another. This was the concept of a person from New Zealand who wanted extra daylight to hunt butterflies.

Retailers, sporting goods makers, and other businesses benefit from extra afternoon sunlight, as it induces customers to shop and to participate in outdoor afternoon sports.[90] In 1984, Fortune magazine estimated that a seven-week extension of DST would yield an additional $30 million for 7-Eleven stores, and the National Golf Foundation estimated the extension would increase golf industry revenues $200 million to $300 million.[91] A 1999 study estimated that DST increases the revenue of the European Union's leisure sector by about 3%.[7]

Conversely, DST can adversely affect farmers,[75] parents of young children,[75] and others whose hours are set by the sun and they have traditionally opposed the practice,[4] although some farmers are neutral.[92] One reason why farmers oppose DST is that grain is best harvested after dew evaporates, so when field hands arrive and leave earlier in summer their labor is less valuable.[11] Dairy farmers are another group who complain of the change. Their cows are sensitive to the timing of milking, so delivering milk earlier disrupts their systems.[76][93] Today some farmers' groups are in favor of DST.[94]

DST also hurts prime-time television broadcast ratings,[5][75] drive-ins and other theaters.[95]

Changing clocks and DST rules has a direct economic cost, entailing extra work to support remote meetings, computer applications and the like. For example, a 2007 North American rule change cost an estimated $500 million to $1 billion,[96] and Utah State University economist William F. Shughart II has estimated the lost opportunity cost at around $1.7 billion USD.[75] Although it has been argued that clock shifts correlate with decreased economic efficiency, and that in 2000 the daylight-saving effect implied an estimated one-day loss of $31 billion on US stock exchanges,[97] the estimated numbers depend on the methodology[98] and the results have been disputed.[99]

[gomoho]

I'm still sleeping an extra hour in the morning and wondering how the hell it go so late in the early afternoon. It will help immensely when it is lighter earlier.

[jebartle]

I really need to be more careful starting threads....so sorry....Can I retract a thread, giggle! You never know where these posts will go...Ha!



Oh for crying out loud! Twice a year it's the same ol'bi#@*ing. The dog will survive and make a later tee time!

[dbussone]

I'm still sleeping an extra hour in the morning and wondering how the hell it go so late in the early afternoon. It will help immensely when it is lighter earlier.

No need to apologize at all. I agree with you.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Didn't we stay on DST back in the 70s during the energy crisis because they said that it would save on electricity?

[dbussone]

Didn't we stay on DST back in the 70s during the energy crisis because they said that it would save on electricity?

Just another piece of government cow patty. It made less than a 1% difference apparently.

[Allegiance]

Wow, I did not think time was so important in a retirement community.

[Mleeja]

Does anyone really know what time it is? Does anyone really care?

[mtdjed]

I agree 100%. Tell the government to leave the clocks alone and let nature regulate how much daylight we have.

Nature does regulate the amount of daylight we get. The time of day does not change that. If everybody across the world got the time they wanted we would be back in history. Best thing is to get used to it and as a retirement community we should be more capable of adjusting than most.

[CFrance]

Does anyone really know what time it is? Does anyone really care?
I usually know what time it is; it's what day it is that stumps me.

[Barefoot]

Best thing is to get used to it and as a retirement community we should be more capable of adjusting than most.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? But I find the older we get, the more resistant to change we become.
Most of us want TV to stop expanding, because now that we have our dream homes, TV should stop building. :evil6:
I find it heartening that a six-year member thinks we should be more capable of adjusting than most. Good thought. :thumbup:

[Polar Bear]

...Most of us want TV to stop expanding, because now that we have our dream homes, TV should stop building. :evil6:: ...

[emoji1]

[dotti105]

I love Daylight Savings time. I really wish we had it year round. I love the longer evenings!
I find the winter so dreary when it gets dark at 4:30 in the afternoon. It does save energy too. No need for lights until much later in the evening.
To each his own....but I would love it year round!!

[dbussone]

I love Daylight Savings time. I really wish we had it year round. I love the longer evenings!
I find the winter so dreary when it gets dark at 4:30 in the afternoon. It does save energy too. No need for lights until much later in the evening.
To each his own....but I would love it year round!!

Dotti - what you are wishing for is what the FL legislature is considering.

[dbussone]

Florida

The "Sunshine Protection Act" has made a comeback in the Florida State Senate, where Democratic Sen. Darren Soto is making his push once again despite saying he doesn't think the measure will pass this year. The bill would put Florida on daylight saving time year-round, and Soto is more hopeful of its 2016 prospects.

"There�s no house companion this year, I only filed it again because it�s been very popular. It was the second most reviewed bill on the Florida Senate website last year," Soto said, WFSU reported.

[Madelaine Amee]

I love Daylight Savings time. I really wish we had it year round. I love the longer evenings!
I find the winter so dreary when it gets dark at 4:30 in the afternoon. It does save energy too. No need for lights until much later in the evening.
To each his own....but I would love it year round!!

I'm with you ............ I love this time of the year because I like to walk when it is still quite dark, but the sky is getting lighter, walk along thinking my thoughts and sorting out my day. There was a piece in the paper last year about a woman who walks at 1:00am, she walks 8 miles in the middle of the night!

[Shimpy]

I love Daylight Savings time. I really wish we had it year round. I love the longer evenings!
I find the winter so dreary when it gets dark at 4:30 in the afternoon. It does save energy too. No need for lights until much later in the evening.
To each his own....but I would love it year round!!

I don't care if we have DST or regular time, but just would like it to stay that way year around.

[Cisco Kid]

What about all the grandkids waiting for the bus in the dark.

I always thought the schools could just adjust their schedule and leave the rest of us alone

[tomwed]

from national geographic
TV Networks Lose, Golf Courses Win

Daylight savings time has some unexpected winners and losers when it comes to how Americans spend their time and money.

Research shows that given an extra hour of evening daylight, many Americans use the time to go out and do things rather than watch the television shows they'd normally view at that time.

Nielsen ratings during the hours impacted by the change show large declines during the first week of DST�as much as 10 to 15 percent, even for popular shows.

"If the sun sets at 7:00, then more people are inside at 7:00. If it sets at 8:00, more people are inside at 8:00," said David Prerau, author of the book Seize the Daylight: The Curious and Contentious Story of Daylight Saving Time.

"They are still going to watch some TV, they are just going to watch it later."

Theaters also take a hit, Prerau added. "When it's dark early, people may feel it's a good night to take in a play or a movie. But when it's going to be light until 8:00, they may decide to take a walk or do something outside."

That means recreational facilities from golf courses to garden supply centers see a spike when DST begins.

"That hour of evening light might make the difference whether somebody feels they have the time to go out and play tennis or start a garden, or whether they don't," Prerau said.

Criminals Hate Daylight Savings Time too

[JoMar]

Does anyone really know what time it is? Does anyone really care?

Chicago does..:smiley:

[CFrance]

West Michigan is at the western edge of the eastern time zone. I loooooooooved DST there. By July it wasn't even dusk till 9:30. So warm (okay, for about 2 months), so beautiful, and so much water to be out on to watch the sunset.

I like DST. I agree it would be nice to have no changes, but let the permanent one be DST.

[TrudyM]

Didn't have it in Hawaii and never needed it. As I said before I just hate when I am in Seattle this time of year (never again) to see the kids go from waiting for the bus in the light to going back to waiting in the dark. The change a few years back in the date was a waste of money and effort. They can't agree on a budget any year but can pass a bill to mess with the clocks.

[chuck90199]

I think this sums it up.

[dbussone]

I think this sums it up.

It sure does.

[Bavarian]

Didn't we stay on DST back in the 70s during the energy crisis because they said that it would save on electricity?

Yes, and I was using public transit to go from suburb to city. Had very hard time walking down our developent street as no light till main highway. Fortunately after a few weeks, "sun adjusted". Remember, we go on Daily Saving Time earlier now, used to be end of March.

[joldnol]

Didn't we stay on DST back in the 70s during the energy crisis because they said that it would save on electricity?

yes and it was no fun going to an 8 oclock class in january an hour before sunrise....it was dangerous too

[joldnol]

until October 1st I hated DST since it took at least a week to get sleep oriented......this is the first year of retirement for me so no problem....as a friend who retired before me said, retirement is having a week that consists of 6 saturdays and a sunday

[tomwed]

I think this sums it up.
Realy?
If you get up with the sun and you go to sleep when it gets dark as the Native Americans did, time doesn't matter.

The clocks and the industrial revolution changed all that in England and than here. I'm not so sure it was the governments. They may have reacted.

The US government stepped in to make sure all the clocks, trains and time zones were synced.

That was a good thing.

but i get your point