Who actually owns

[BobnBev]

Lake Sumter?

The County?
The Villages?
The Morse Family?

Is it considered a "Navigable Waterway" for Coast Guard authority ?

Is there any law enforcement on the Lake?

[graciegirl]

Lake Sumter?

The County?
The Villages?
The Morse Family?

Is it considered a "Navigable Waterway" for Coast Guard authority ?

Is there any law enforcement on the Lake?

THAT is a very good question. I always point out to our guests just visiting here that we have a lighthouse that guides all Ocean Going Ships.:D


We are so lucky.

[DougB]

I believe Lake Sumter Landing is just a name created by The Villages. Isn't it actually "Cherry Lake"?

[JoMar]

Sumpter Landing CDD

[graciegirl]

I believe Lake Sumter Landing is just a name created by The Villages. Isn't it actually "Cherry Lake"?


NOOOOO. Then I would have to say; There is no pee in Lake Cherry?

[pbkmaine]

Which would also be true.

[Bizdoc]

It isn't navigable and isn't directly connected to a navigable body of water. It is also entirely inside a single state. Coast Guard would have jurisdiction for pollution ("waters of the United States") but not for boating enforcement. No. they don't have a boat or cutter assigned to Lake Sumter (or whatever the heck it really is).

[billybye]

Lake Sumter is a retention pond - there is only two lakes in the villages, Lake Miona and one other that I can't remember

[twoplanekid]

Lake Deaton might be that other lake?

[TheVillageChicken]

It isn't navigable and isn't directly connected to a navigable body of water. It is also entirely inside a single state. Coast Guard would have jurisdiction for pollution ("waters of the United States") but not for boating enforcement. No. they don't have a boat or cutter assigned to Lake Sumter (or whatever the heck it really is).

I'm voting for Coast Guard have nothing at all to do with it and EPA being the govt agency having an interest in pollution.

[graciegirl]

I swear I heard a rumor that her majesty Queen Elizabeth was sailing in on the QE2 and she would run the CDD NORTH of 466. She was going to buy it from the IRS and the POA.

And that the Royal Navy with Prince Harry was going to head up the CDD south of 466.

And Taylor Swift was going to run the area south of 466A where all the YOUNG people live.

[DonH57]

I swear I heard a rumor that her majesty Queen Elizabeth was sailing in on the QE2 and she would run the CDD NORTH of 466. She was going to buy it from the IRS and the POA.

And that the Royal Navy with Prince Harry was going to head up the CDD south of 466.

And Taylor Swift was going to run the area south of 466A where all the YOUNG people live.

Hope the Royal Navy brings back issuing tots of Rum. Yeah.:thumbup:

[virgind]

Lake Sumter or what ever you call it was a cow pasture. When they dug it to fill it they used the water from from Miona. But then they really got in trouble. When will people realize every thing here is fake. ( Fantasy land)

[graciegirl]

Lake Sumter or what ever you call it was a cow pasture. When they dug it to fill it they used the water from from Miona. But then they really got in trouble. When will people realize every thing here is fake. ( Fantasy land)


You like it???

[dbussone]

I swear I heard a rumor that her majesty Queen Elizabeth was sailing in on the QE2 and she would run the CDD NORTH of 466. She was going to buy it from the IRS and the POA.



And that the Royal Navy with Prince Harry was going to head up the CDD south of 466.



And Taylor Swift was going to run the area south of 466A where all the YOUNG people live.


Woo Hoo! Who is Taylor Swift?

[billethkid]

And if you don't have a Boat you can walk across Lake Sumter or Lake Miona they are so shallow.

Home to many a gator and many, many more snakes!

[CFrance]

Woo Hoo! Who is Taylor Swift?
Watch a couple minutes of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

I don't think she's gonna be running anything south of 466A any time soon!

[CFrance]

Lake Sumter or what ever you call it was a cow pasture. When they dug it to fill it they used the water from from Miona. But then they really got in trouble. When will people realize every thing here is fake. ( Fantasy land)
Do you live in The Villages, virgind?

[Polar Bear]

...When will people realize every thing here is fake...

Oh no...does that include all the joy it brings so many people?!? :22yikes:

[Mleeja]

Lake Sumter or what ever you call it was a cow pasture. When they dug it to fill it they used the water from from Miona. But then they really got in trouble. When will people realize every thing here is fake. ( Fantasy land)

Oh no! i paid $500,000 to live on a retention pond? Get me those POA lawyers.:cryin2:

[justjim]

Lake Sumter or what ever you call it was a cow pasture. When they dug it to fill it they used the water from from Miona. But then they really got in trouble. When will people realize every thing here is fake. ( Fantasy land)

Lake Denton and Lake Minoa were here long before The Villages. I'm not sure what you mean by everything is fake. :(

[jblum315]

Lake Denton and Lake Minoa were here long before The Villages. I'm not sure what you mean by everything is fake. :(

many of the bodies of water that look like lakes are manmade. Doesn't deter the alligators from using them
Nearly all the cutesie signage in the squares is fake.
The decorations in most of the rec centers are repro, not old (Except Eisenhower)
The lovely flowers are not fake - but they are replaced the minute they begin to fade.
Most of the residents are not fake happy - they really are happy

[TheVillageChicken]

Lake Sumter or what ever you call it was a cow pasture. When they dug it to fill it they used the water from from Miona. But then they really got in trouble. When will people realize every thing here is fake. ( Fantasy land)

Holy Smokes! So you're telling me that the Panama Canal is fake? Damn! I paid good money to cruise that bad boy.

[Mleeja]

What is the purpose of the original post? Is the lake sinking and the question is who has to pay to fix it? Did some cut down some trees to improve their view? Or did they ask a question just to see what they could stir up?

[graciegirl]

What is the purpose of the original post? Is the lake sinking and the question is who has to pay to fix it? Did some cut down some trees to improve their view? Or did they ask a question just to see what they could stir up?

Reading Bob and Bev for some time, I am guessing that they meant it as a light hearted jest.

At least that is how I took it.

And as for the fake stuff. I call it whimsical and fantasy in the most enjoyable way. Katie Belle was not an historical figure. Spanish Springs was meant to look like an old Spanish Town and Lake Sumter was meant to look like an American town from yesteryear and Brownwood is supposed to be a tribute to the Brownwood store in Michigan, still run by Gary Morse's sister who makes fresh donuts daily.

It's all good.

[Mleeja]

Reading Bob and Bev for some time, I am guessing that they meant it as a light hearted jest.

At least that is how I took it.

And as for the fake stuff. I call it whimsical and fantasy in the most enjoyable way. Katie Belle was not an historical figure. Spanish Springs was meant to look like an old Spanish Town and Lake Sumter was meant to look like an American town from yesteryear and Brownwood is supposed to be a tribute to the Brownwood store in Michigan, still run by Gary Morse's sister who makes fresh donuts daily.

It's all good.

Stirring the pot eh? :smiley::smiley:

[graciegirl]

Stirring the pot eh? :smiley::smiley:

lol......A year ago I had a gathering for TOTV'rs around Christmas time and some very nice person who had spent quite a bit of time at Brownwood growing up, came to the get together just to tell me that the Morse family were very nice folks as I had suspected and recently she sent me a clipping from the local Brownwood, Michigan paper showing. Mar making her donuts.

I strongly suspect, that the Morse family are a decent bunch of nice folks.

Pretty much like you Mleeja.

[Greg Nelson]

It's a good fantasy

[graciegirl]

It's a good fantasy


Ah yes. But a reality for us who live here every day. So glad I got old enough to be here.

[virgind]

When I say fake I mean like Disney, its there to make you feel good. Dont mean anything bad. Look at the day markers in the lake ( channel markers) they are not needed but to some one coming from a coastal area it makes them feel good like being back from where they came from. Yes I live here, 10 years now.

[graciegirl]

When I say fake I mean like Disney, its there to make you feel good. Dont mean anything bad. Look at the day markers in the lake ( channel markers) they are not needed but to some one coming from a coastal area it makes them feel good like being back from where they came from. Yes I live here, 10 years now.

Wonderful post.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Lake Sumter or what ever you call it was a cow pasture. When they dug it to fill it they used the water from from Miona. But then they really got in trouble. When will people realize every thing here is fake. ( Fantasy land)

I tell my visitors that all the time. I also tell them that I enjoy every inch of it. I love living in fantasy land.

BTW, I was told that Lake Sumter is indeed a retention pond and was built to drain some area so that homes and other properties could be built.

[pbkmaine]

Someone needs to collect all the snippets of "history" from those plaques on the sides of the buildings and write a tongue-in-cheek history of the Town Squares.

[Bonny]

I love my fantasy land !!! Couldn't imagine living anywhere else.
Don't know and don't care who owns what. Just sayin' :D

[Bizdoc]

Of course, if you really want a Coast Guard cutter on Lake Sumter, GSA is selling a couple of decommissioned 110 foot Island class patrol boats. There are also a number of 41 and 47 foot former Coast Guard boats up for sale by private firms.

[Mleeja]

Of course, if you really want a Coast Guard cutter on Lake Sumter, GSA is selling a couple of decommissioned 110 foot Island class patrol boats. There are also a number of 41 and 47 foot former Coast Guard boats up for sale by private firms.

Now that would be cool. The Villages could have its own Navy!

[graciegirl]

I heard a RUMOR that the new John Rohan Regional Recreation Center will house a history of how the Villages grew.

[Polar Bear]

Drainage facilities are rarely all natural. Even if there is a large natural water body adjacent to a development, runoff must be retained and treated to meet water quality requirements before it can be discharged into public waters. This is the norm for any development. Only the very smallest may be exempt or not have a need to provide ponds or other retention/treatment facilities to provide for runoff from the site.

There are very specific permitting requirements which must be met also. Just digging a hole is not even close to enough. Wetlands and other habitat areas are to be avoided, but if there are what development codes deem to be unavoidable impacts, compensation must be provided, usually in amounts more than the impacts they are compensating for. Many of the ponds, wetlands and other habitat areas in TV fall into this category...man-made facilities created as compensation for impacts in other areas of TV.

[dolpterry]

And if you don't have a Boat you can walk across Lake Sumter or Lake Miona they are so shallow.

Home to many a gator and many, many more snakes!

Please don't try to walk across Lake Miona, much of it is 8 to 10 feet deep. don't want to pollute it anymore then it already is.

[virgind]

A little off the subject did you know there really are 4 town squares

[TVMayor]

A little off the subject did you know there really are 4 town squares
If you count the one on the Historical side that is no longer used as a square.

[Golf View]

I love your avatar & your thought for the day at the bottom

[virgind]

There are business there so it should be considered a square.

[karostay]

Lake Sumter?

The County?
The Villages?
The Morse Family?

Is it considered a "Navigable Waterway" for Coast Guard authority ?

Is there any law enforcement on the Lake?

Mother Nature

[Buffalo Jim]

Speaking of who owns things :

" Who owns the Chiefs " ? Sports -Movie buffs will recognize the question .

[villagetinker]

Now that would be cool. The Villages could have its own Navy!

OMG I just had a flashback of McHale's Navy...........:wave:

[Bonanza]

I love your avatar & your thought for the day at the bottom

To whom are you referring???

:shrug:

[BobnBev]

No, I was NOT trying to "stir the pot".
I see Dragon boats on the lake.
I see sail boats on the lake.
I see a boat launching ramp next to the hotel.
I DON'T see any "No Trespassing" signs at the lake.

If I wanted to launch my canoe or kayak on the lake, who would I contact for permission. What about jet skis, row boats with outboard motors, etc.?

I imagine law enforcement on the lake would come under the jurisdiction on the FWC, or the Sumter County Sheriff.

Thanks for all the comments, and thanks Gracie, for the kind words.:bigbow:

[tomwed]

I remember seeing a video advertisement for the villages that included water skiing. I can't find it now and I don't want to water ski but is that here too?

[graciegirl]

I remember seeing a video advertisement for the villages that included water skiing. I can't find it now and I don't want to water ski but is that here too?

Lake Miona has a public dock. It can be reached down Rainey Trail.

[LndLocked]

Speaking of who owns things :

" Who owns the Chiefs " ? Sports -Movie buffs will recognize the question .

I take it you are a fan of old time hockey, like Eddie Shore

:)

[tomwed]

Lake Miona has a public dock. It can be reached down Rainey Trail.
thank-you Gracie
I looked a little but came up empty. Could I get to the dock heading north on BV by bike? What turns do I make or what address could I use with google maps for directions?

[tomwed]

thank-you Gracie
I looked a little but came up empty. Could I get to the dock heading north on BV by bike? What turns do I make or what address could I use with google maps for directions?

I found it, I think. From BV take left on Rainy Trail [aka 472]. Make the next left at 115. If that has another name, it's not on google maps. I'll check it out. Is that considered in The Villages?

I heard about very expensive homes with amazing views. Is that where they are?

[LndLocked]

I found it, I think. From BV take left on Rainy Trail [aka 472]. Make the next left at 115. If that has another name, it's not on google maps. I'll check it out. Is that considered in The Villages?

I heard about very expensive homes with amazing views. Is that where they are?

That is it .... their is a sign on RT at the entrance to Lk Miona Park. Be aware that their is no MMP or Diamond lane on RT leading to the park.

If you are standing on the dock looking at the lake ..... their are Premier TV neighborhoods both to your right & left. The one you can see on your left is the one were the big oaks were cut down without permission that is costing TV residents south of 466 major $$$$$$$ to mitigate.

[2BNTV]

NOOOOO. Then I would have to say; There is no pee in Lake Cherry?

There is no "p" in Lake Sumter either!!! :D

I love "Fantasyland" because reality really stinks. :D

Anyone remember Fastasy Island? The plane, the plane.....er..... "the boat, the boat", on Lake Sumter or Cherry. :smiley:

[BobnBev]

So, can I launch my kayak or not?

[CFrance]

So, can I launch my kayak or not?
Why don't you call the county and find out? If it's county owned, you should be able to. If it's owned by TV, call them.

[Buffalo Jim]

I take it you are a fan of old time hockey, like Eddie Shore

:)

Did you hear the news that the Chiefs are relocating near a large a retirement community in Florida ?

[dbussone]

Did you hear the news that the Chiefs are relocating to a retirement community in Florida ?

Which chiefs? Comanches or Seminoles? Maybe Cherokees?

[Buffalo Jim]

Which chiefs? Comanches or Seminoles? Maybe Cherokees?

The " Charlestown Chiefs " from the Federal League . They are playing out their final season in PA.
In fact they just made the final round of the playoffs and are facing the Syracuse Bulldogs !

Unfortunately the Bulldogs have called up several questionable players from " The Iron League " . This includes Tim " The Hook " Mc Craken , Clarence " Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown , and the previously banned for life " Ogie " Ogilthorpe ". So it`s going to be a tough series for The Chiefs who have several injured players .

Today`s Charlestown News features an article by long time sportswriter Dickie Dunn that the Chiefs will be moving to Florida after this season . According to Dunn the team will be relocating very close to a very large retirement community in Central Florida . This news from such a credible source has of course led to speculation that the Chiefs will be moving close to the Villages .



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[dplars]

No, I was NOT trying to "stir the pot".
I see Dragon boats on the lake.
I see sail boats on the lake.
I see a boat launching ramp next to the hotel.
I DON'T see any "No Trespassing" signs at the lake.

If I wanted to launch my canoe or kayak on the lake, who would I contact for permission. What about jet skis, row boats with outboard motors, etc.?

I imagine law enforcement on the lake would come under the jurisdiction on the FWC, or the Sumter County Sheriff.

Thanks for all the comments, and thanks Gracie, for the kind words.:bigbow:

I was under the impression that any body of water adjacent to or connecting to a public right of way could be accessed and used legally. Apparently I'm wrong or was just intimidated. A bud and I put my canoe on the lake using the hotel boat ramp, we made it down to Cody's when the "Crusise boat" personnel asked to see our permit and if we did not have one we were trespassing and must leave. We left and then I went to the Rec center and asked for a permit. Was told to forget it as no permits were being given out. It would be a beautifully canoe or kayak facility that many of us could enjoy. Too bad many of the post on this subject missed the objective of the original post.

[dbussone]

The " Charlestown Chiefs " from the Federal League . They are playing out their final season in PA.
In fact they just made the final round of the playoffs and are facing the Syracuse Bulldogs !

Unfortunately the Bulldogs have called up several questionable players from " The Iron League " . This includes Tim " The Hook " Mc Craken , Clarence " Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown , and the previously banned for life " Ogie " Ogilthorpe ". So it`s going to be a tough series for The Chiefs who have several injured players .

Today`s Charlestown News features an article by long time sportswriter Dickie Dunn that the Chiefs will be moving to Florida after this season . According to Dunn the team will be relocating very close to a very large retirement community in Central Florida . This news from such a credible source has of course led to speculation that the Chiefs will be moving close to the Villages .



:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::a040:


If they move here they will have to change their names. To the "ole timers". ::jester::

[BobnBev]

I was under the impression that any body of water adjacent to or connecting to a public right of way could be accessed and used legally. Apparently I'm wrong or was just intimidated. A bud and I put my canoe on the lake using the hotel boat ramp, we made it down to Cody's when the "Crusise boat" personnel asked to see our permit and if we did not have one we were trespassing and must leave. We left and then I went to the Rec center and asked for a permit. Was told to forget it as no permits were being given out. It would be a beautifully canoe or kayak facility that many of us could enjoy. Too bad many of the post on this subject missed the objective of the original post.

I think I would have taken a wide berth around the cruise boat, or just said thank you and continued on my way. If it's not posted then you're not guilty of trespassing. And you're right, many missed the objective or just figured it was OK to hijack the post.:censored:

[pqrstar]

Who owns the lake?

who owns the land that is supposedly shifting under the Lake Sumter bridge and needs to be repaired.

Sumter Landing Community Development is the governmental authority according to the tax records.