New Golf Course and Village

[JP]

I just heard, from an extremely good source, that there is going to be a new golf course and village built on the land North of 466a between Buena Vista and Powell Rd. It will be interesting to see how TV "hooks" it into the golf cart path system. Maybe a new golf cart path on the West side of Buena Vista. It will be interesting!

[MSGirl]

Is that the land with the marshes around it? If so nothing will be built in our lifetime. I received this information from a very reliable source.

[JP]

No, it is currently a cow pasture. And my reliable source is a Villager that owns a home that borders the property that TV has been in contact with regarding development of the land.

[villagetinker]

This is interesting as this is also Wildwood, and listed a commercial use.

[villagetinker]

I went to Google Maps, the top one shows the Wildwood borders, and the second one the satellite view. Also, as I recall the for sale signs in this area all state commercial, however, in any case golf cart access will be challenging for this area, unless Sumter County allows golf carts to cross 466a, and greatly improves the golf cart access in the vicinity of Pinellas Plaza.

[NYGUY]

If true, the term "build out" can be tossed out!!

[twoplanekid]

It would be another 300 plus build in a logical area if this is it. However, I don't see room for the golf course unless it's the first mini.

[JP]

I think the golf course could be the size of Turtle Mound with homes around it.

[JoMar]

I anticipate a number of build in's similar to the CYV's in Marion. There is land for small groups of houses through out TV and I suspect the Developer will fill in those places. 300 here and there isn't significant when you consider past projects are thousands of homes.

[JP]

The part of this new build that I find significant is the inclusion of a new golf course which I for one am in favor of.

[graciegirl]

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[Erijo]

I wish a square would be built, so many more people here. Would be great!

[graciegirl]

The part of this new build that I find significant is the inclusion of a new golf course which I for one am in favor of.

Where did the information come from? There had been discussion couple of years ago about the area across the pond from St. James on the NORTH side of 466A across the street from Pinelles Plaza being an assisted living campus. It has been a farm with cows and horses.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/whats-being-built-pinellas-powell-73553/

[Bizdoc]

I recall reading a year or so ago that the north side of 466a had gone thru the planning process to be assisted living and/or apartments. I also recall some upset that it backed up against existing TV homes. The owners in that area were, as I recall, unhappy that the pastures were being replaced by commercial development.

Sumtergis.com does not show any change in ownership of any of the parcels - and none are owned by TV.

[joldnol]

I thought that was where costco and trader joe's was going in

[NYGUY]

Where did the information come from? There had been discussion couple of years ago about the area across the pond from St. James on the NORTH side of 466A across the street from Pinelles Plaza being an assisted living campus. It has been a farm with cows and horses.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/whats-being-built-pinellas-powell-73553/

They might have been talking about Providence, a senior independent living facility on the north-west corner of 466A and Powell.

[billethkid]

If true, the term "build out" can be tossed out!!

As it has been throughout the years.

[Villager Dude]

I would be in favor of another square in that location. I don't know at the end of the day why Brownwood was built at the edge of TV and not near Pinellas . Seems like more shops would benefit the developer more than houses .

[kcrazorbackfan]

We looked at a home on Ansley Path that backs up to that pasture land; heard that an assisted living facility was going to be built there, but there would be about 100' of greenspace separating the homes from development.

[Sweet Caroline]

All you nosey neighbors will be advised as soon as the developer submits the plans to the City of Wildwood. We were told it would be in March but it didn't happen. Hopefully April? The rezoning will allow ANYTHING expect heavy industrial. We have been told it will be a golf course and houses and most of us are happy with that. Last thing I would want is an apartment complex with barking kids and screaming dogs:) We are also asking where will the access be located? Supposedly the commercial project at BV and 466-A is still under consideration but the other larger tract will be Villages property if our gossip is correct. But who knows for sure, guess we will find out when we find out. If they build a golf course in my back yard does that mean my taxes go up? I sure will miss the cows and calves, they are very nice neighbors.

[JP]

Where did the information come from? There had been discussion couple of years ago about the area across the pond from St. James on the NORTH side of 466A across the street from Pinelles Plaza being an assisted living campus. It has been a farm with cows and horses.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/whats-being-built-pinellas-powell-73553/

From a Villager that has a house on the edge of this new development that TV has kept informed of what the development will be.

[tomwed]

All you nosey neighbors will be advised as soon as the developer submits the plans to the City of Wildwood. We were told it would be in March but it didn't happen. Hopefully April? The rezoning will allow ANYTHING expect heavy industrial. We have been told it will be a golf course and houses and most of us are happy with that. Last thing I would want is an apartment complex with barking kids and screaming dogs:) We are also asking where will the access be located? Supposedly the commercial project at BV and 466-A is still under consideration but the other larger tract will be Villages property if our gossip is correct. But who knows for sure, guess we will find out when we find out. If they build a golf course in my back yard does that mean my taxes go up? I sure will miss the cows and calves, they are very nice neighbors.

curious, sure
anxious to find out if anything new that we can use like a golf course or store, why not
everyone is talking about land use,,not the neighbors

is that being nosey?
is that gossip?
i don't see it that way, not that it matters

[JP]

Second hand...................................

What isn't second hand. This is first hand as it gets.

[champion6]

Where did the information come from? There had been discussion couple of years ago about the area across the pond from St. James on the NORTH side of 466A across the street from Pinelles Plaza being an assisted living campus. It has been a farm with cows and horses.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/whats-being-built-pinellas-powell-73553/Gracike, as helpful as you are trying to be, the link you provided is about what is now Pinellas Plaza. It has nothing to do with the discussion in this thread.

[champion6]

This property is behind my house. Since 2011 I have followed its development closely. Here is an email that I sent to my neighbors whose homes also border the property:

March 20, 2015
There isn't anything on the agenda for the March 23 meeting of the Wildwood City Commission that pertains directly to the Word property (east half of the pasture) or the Beaumont property (west half).

However there is a little background information in a report that is in the agenda packet.

There is a report titled, Development Services Project Update, March 2015. It appears that this is a summary that updates the Commission on the statuses for all developments within the City of Wildwood, and is published every six months.

Regarding the Word property (Trailwinds Village), the document states: Utility extensions in progress. Improvement and Final Plat plans are on hold. The property is currently available for sale; further changes to existing development plans may be forthcoming pending the outcome. Plans may be considered abandoned after May 8, 2015 without further action on the plans as submitted.

It surprised me to read that the Word property is for sale again. But after thinking about it, I guess it matches what we learned in February from the Wildwood assistant city manager. He wrote in an email that The Villages had approached Wildwood and is interested in developing 200 acres of the combined 300 acres of the Word (Trailwinds Village) and Beaumont properties. The Trailwinds folks and The Villages are working on a potential deal. If the Wildwood City Commission agrees to the terms of the agreement, The Villages will develop the property as residential with a golf course, leaving the remaining 100 acres or so for Trailwinds to develop.

It also appears that Beaumont has already sold the sod in his pasture to The Villages. Equipment has been seen harvesting the sod. Recently a Tamarind Grove resident followed a truck which transported a load of sod to The Villages of Fruitland Park where it was delivered to a pond area.

[tomwed]

I'm still not sure where the property is that might have a new golf course. If you are playing on Palmetto is it the property across the 3, 4 and 5th hole? Geography is not my strong smoot.

[champion6]

I'm still not sure where the property is that might have a new golf course.Look at the picture in post #7. Southern border: 466A; eastern border: Sandhill golf course; western border: CR 462; northern border: St. James and Tamarind Grove.

[tomwed]

Look at the picture in post #7. Southern border: 466A; eastern border: Sandhill golf course; western border: CR 462; northern border: Tamarind Grove.
Thank-you
That's just where I was hoping it would be.

[villages07]

Thanks, champ...I figured you would have some facts and details. I see residential expansion there, with a golf course, as a positive thing, if that is what happens. Better than commercial/office space, bright lights and parking lots.

[Sweet Caroline]

That is the problem with emails and posts, you can't hear the sarcasm in my voice. It was a joke. We are all nosey when it comes to building in our back yard/

[tomwed]

That is the problem with emails and posts, you can't hear the sarcasm in my voice. It was a joke. We are all nosey when it comes to building in our back yard/
I'm sorry I read it the wrong way. I should have asked "Are you being sarcastic?" And that's what I'll try to do in the future.

[champion6]

Finally, a chance to get some "first hand" details about this proposed project. The Wildwood City Commission has scheduled a workshop for 9:30 a.m. April 15 to discuss details of The Villages expansion. There is a story at the Villages News site.

[JP]

Hmmmm

[Barefoot]

I don't know at the end of the day why Brownwood was built at the edge of TV and not near Pinellas .

As The Villages expands southward, Brownwood will no longer be "on the edge of TV"!

[er9027]

The Villages is negotiating to purchase 200 acres or more north of County Road 466A and east of County Road 462 to develop The Villages of Wildwood.

The Villages of Wildwood would consist of neighborhoods of single-family home similar to the recent Villages expansion into Fruitland Park, according Wildwood city officials, who said project details such as the number of lots are not yet available.

[Bay Kid]

No mention of new golf courses...that would be great news....

[NYGUY]

We can use this thread to discuss the new potential village in Wildwood:

"The Villages is negotiating to purchase 200 acres or more north of County Road 466A and east of County Road 462 to develop The Villages of Wildwood.
The Villages of Wildwood would consist of neighborhoods of single-family home similar to the recent Villages expansion into Fruitland Park, according Wildwood city officials, who said project details such as the number of lots are not yet available.
A mixed-use development known as Trailwinds Village had been planned for 157 acres north of 466A and west of the Sandhill executive golf course. That project was announced about three years ago, but nothing has been built and cattle still graze on the land.

The Wildwood City Commission scheduled a workshop for 9:30 a.m. April 15 to discuss details of The Villages expansion and Mayor Ed Wolf said Monday night that he doesn’t plan to just rubber-stamp the project.
“We have a lot of negotiations coming up with The Villages,” he said.
The area is within the Wildwood city limits and The Villages needs the city to provide utility extensions for the new homes and zoning approval in the form of expansion of its Development of Regional Impact (DRI) permit, according to Wildwood development services director Melanie Peavy.
The Villages of Wildwood would be smaller than the Fruitland Park expansion, which includes nearly 2,000 homes on 760 acres. Earlier this month, The Villages also announced plans to add 300 new homes on 64.27 acres in Marion County.
Trailwinds Village was planned to include retail, office, residential, institutional and medical office uses as well as senior housing such as assisted living or nursing facilities, according to the project web site."

[champion6]

Thanks, NYGUY. But a discussion is already going here: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/new-golf-course-village-147840/

[2BNTV]

We can use this thread to discuss the new potential village in Wildwood:

"The Villages is negotiating to purchase 200 acres or more north of County Road 466A and east of County Road 462 to develop The Villages of Wildwood.
The Villages of Wildwood would consist of neighborhoods of single-family home similar to the recent Villages expansion into Fruitland Park, according Wildwood city officials, who said project details such as the number of lots are not yet available.
A mixed-use development known as Trailwinds Village had been planned for 157 acres north of 466A and west of the Sandhill executive golf course. That project was announced about three years ago, but nothing has been built and cattle still graze on the land.

The Wildwood City Commission scheduled a workshop for 9:30 a.m. April 15 to discuss details of The Villages expansion and Mayor Ed Wolf said Monday night that he doesn�t plan to just rubber-stamp the project.
�We have a lot of negotiations coming up with The Villages,� he said.
The area is within the Wildwood city limits and The Villages needs the city to provide utility extensions for the new homes and zoning approval in the form of expansion of its Development of Regional Impact (DRI) permit, according to Wildwood development services director Melanie Peavy.
The Villages of Wildwood would be smaller than the Fruitland Park expansion, which includes nearly 2,000 homes on 760 acres. Earlier this month, The Villages also announced plans to add 300 new homes on 64.27 acres in Marion County.
Trailwinds Village was planned to include retail, office, residential, institutional and medical office uses as well as senior housing such as assisted living or nursing facilities, according to the project web site."

https://youtu.be/bS3O5zg290k

[villagetinker]

I just heard, from an extremely good source, that there is going to be a new golf course and village built on the land North of 466a between Buena Vista and Powell Rd. It will be interesting to see how TV "hooks" it into the golf cart path system. Maybe a new golf cart path on the West side of Buena Vista. It will be interesting!

JP,
WOW you were correct, and please accept my apology, I just saw the article this morning. There have been so many rumors on this site, that what you were saying did not seem to agree with the signs and such. You were right, and I was wrong. Now lets see what the developer comes up with, because golf cart traffic will be a major concern.
VT

[villagetinker]

One of the big questions will be how the golf cart traffic will be handled. In my humble opinion, I think there are some safety concerns around the new banks and the gas station with the golf carts in the same lanes as automobiles. With a new development (aka Wildwood) going in across 466a, there would need to be some way to cross, either at Powell, or at Pinellas Place. The existing layout does not seem to support golf cart traffic, the multimode roadway ends at the gate on Pinellas Place, and Powell is not designed for golf cart traffic, I hope the Wildwood hearing covers this.

Just my uninformed ramblings and concerns.

[mulligan]

My money would be on access through the Tamarind Grove pool area for cart traffic. There is plenty of room there for a MM path.

[champion6]

My guess is that golf cart access will be from either west of the Tamarind Grove pool or from east of the TG postal station.

[graciegirl]

My money would be on access through the Tamarind Grove pool area for cart traffic. There is plenty of room there for a MM path.


Would that be close to the campus of St.Vincent de Paul Church?

[champion6]

Would that be close to the campus of St.Vincent de Paul Church?No.

[billethkid]

I would assume there is a regular list of "target" properties surrounding TV, some of which will make their owners multi millionaires when the time is right.

Back a few years ago on Rainey Trail (CR 472) their used to be a huge horse farm and show barn complex. It was sold (rumored at $18 million) and is now home to Bridgeport on Lake Miona (or something like That)..

The property is not contiguous to TV roads/MMP's. There is just a crossing and warning signs across CR 472.

Yup. There are more properties yet to come.

[JP]

My money would be on access through the Tamarind Grove pool area for cart traffic. There is plenty of room there for a MM path.

It could definitely be a good access point and all the trees in that area could make a very beautiful golf cart access road.

[bagboy]

Would that be close to the campus of St.Vincent de Paul Church?

It is very close. The church is on the west side of 462 and Tamarind Grove is on the east side with no access point there. The future development land is just to the south of TG, east of 462 and on the north side of 466A. If you go to Google maps, type in the church name and Wildwood Fl, it will give you a view of the area.

[sunnyatlast]

Better that the known developers of TV build homes and neighborhoods there, than wait for some other fly-by-night slop artist to build cheap apartments and duplexes with screaming kids and couples fighting in the driveways…..and brainlessly throwing firecrackers and shooting fireworks over your rooftops. That is reality in other places.

[rubicon]

JP,
WOW you were correct, and please accept my apology, I just saw the article this morning. There have been so many rumors on this site, that what you were saying did not seem to agree with the signs and such. You were right, and I was wrong. Now lets see what the developer comes up with, because golf cart traffic will be a major concern.
VT

Ah, golf cart traffic it won't be major concern for the developer if it was building would have stopped two years ago...as the developer sings "don't cry for me" The Villages

[SouthOfTheBorder]

One of the big questions will be how the golf cart traffic will be handled. In my humble opinion, I think there are some safety concerns around the new banks and the gas station with the golf carts in the same lanes as automobiles. With a new development (aka Wildwood) going in across 466a, there would need to be some way to cross, either at Powell, or at Pinellas Place. The existing layout does not seem to support golf cart traffic, the multimode roadway ends at the gate on Pinellas Place, and Powell is not designed for golf cart traffic, I hope the Wildwood hearing covers this.

Just my uninformed ramblings and concerns.

I understand your concern but North of 466 there are many miles of non-residential roads with lanes shared by carts and cars. And they have been sharing these common lanes for more than two decades, so it shouldn't bring any new problems. Plenty of room for new MMRT on the north side of 466A. A new tunnel under 462 is not big issue, Powell Rd has had two new ones added in past couple of years.

Growth is great, more to do and see!

The Morse families sure are good at expanding our lifestyle opportunities aren't they! Where would all of us be without their vision and commitment! :thumbup:

Don

[PJUCTH]

Great? Well unless you have someone rope off seats for you so your 9tr old father or disabled husband can see one of the good bands. Or you don't mind standing in line using your precious time waiting for a class. Tee Times�� Big enough already.

[Warren Kiefer]

I just heard, from an extremely good source, that there is going to be a new golf course and village built on the land North of 466a between Buena Vista and Powell Rd. It will be interesting to see how TV "hooks" it into the golf cart path system. Maybe a new golf cart path on the West side of Buena Vista. It will be interesting!


The Developer is closing on a deal for 200 acres near Wildwood. I have information it will be named The Wildwood Villages.

[graciegirl]

The Developer is closing on a deal for 200 acres near Wildwood. I have information it will be named The Wildwood Villages.

There is another thread on this Warren.

If he didn't someone else would. I'd choose The Morses over all of them.

[Bay Kid]

There is another thread on this Warren.

If he didn't someone else would. I'd choose The Morses over all of them.

You know they will do a great job.

[looneycat]

Great? Well unless you have someone rope off seats for you so your 9tr old father or disabled husband can see one of the good bands. Or you don't mind standing in line using your precious time waiting for a class. Tee Times�� Big enough already.

other places don't offer these alternatives at all. I'm disabled, and despite the fact that sidewalks in the square's are all slanted for drainage and therefore rendered extremely unfriendly for wheelchairs, I still Get my share of entertainment which is not offered elsewhere!