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Guest
03-21-2015, 03:36 PM
Hillary Clinton will be the unchallenged democratic nominee for president in 2016, so who should she fear the most on the republican side. There are so many good choices. Donald Trump comes to mind, along with Dr Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Chris Christie.
Barack Obama beat Mitt Romney by 11% with women in 2012 (55% to 44%), and by 20 plus% among unmarried women, so it would seem that the GOP needs some help with women. The logical scenario would be to nominate a woman, but who?
Hillary will have an army of voters and volunteers all ready to go on day one of her campaign. Who are all the Villages voters ready to march with?
Guest
03-21-2015, 03:41 PM
And O'Malley will knock her off her perch just like Obama did.
How could he not? He is much more qualified than Obama ever was (even today).
Fresh and clean and not an insider all pluses for him and minuses for same old same old Clintonism.
Guest
03-21-2015, 04:28 PM
And O'Malley will knock her off her perch just like Obama did.
How could he not? He is much more qualified than Obama ever was (even today).
Fresh and clean and not an insider all pluses for him and minuses for same old same old Clintonism.
Hillary Clinton - Latest 2014 Polls and Approval Ratings - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/p/polls/person/latest/hillary-clinton#.VQ3hb7mPI5s)
Unfortunately for Martin O'Malley, he is polling at 1% in the latest poll tied at the bottom with Jim Webb. O'Malley has to reach 15% in the polls just to be included in any debate. Most pundits think he is looking for a cabinet position in the future Clinton administration.
Guest
03-21-2015, 04:29 PM
Hillary Clinton - Latest 2014 Polls and Approval Ratings - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/p/polls/person/latest/hillary-clinton#.VQ3hb7mPI5s)
Unfortunately for Martin O'Malley, he is polling at 1% in the latest poll tied at the bottom with Jim Webb. O'Malley has to reach 15% in the polls just to be included in any debate. Most pundits think he is looking for a cabinet position in the future Clinton administration.
It's very close though. Hillary has 62%, O'Malley has 1%.
Guest
03-21-2015, 05:29 PM
We need Joe Biden to get into the race !
Go to " Draft Joe Biden 2016 " .
Guest
03-21-2015, 11:07 PM
Hillary Clinton - Latest 2014 Polls and Approval Ratings - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/p/polls/person/latest/hillary-clinton#.VQ3hb7mPI5s)
Unfortunately for Martin O'Malley, he is polling at 1% in the latest poll tied at the bottom with Jim Webb. O'Malley has to reach 15% in the polls just to be included in any debate. Most pundits think he is looking for a cabinet position in the future Clinton administration.
Seems to me that a dark horse in 2008 knocked her out of the front running......remember?
Guest
03-21-2015, 11:09 PM
She was a lot more sale able back in 2008 and she still lost.
Is she the dem poster child for desperation?
Guest
03-22-2015, 06:45 AM
New Gallup poll finds Hillary Clinton top-rated 2016 candidate among women (http://theweek.com/speedreads/545641/new-gallup-poll-finds-hillary-clinton-toprated-2016-candidate-among-women)
Hillary Clinton tops the list of favorability ratings with women. Jeb Bush is at 32% and Scott Walker is at 17%, according to this new Gallup poll. It would seem that the GOP has their work cut out for them.
Guest
03-22-2015, 09:37 AM
New Gallup poll finds Hillary Clinton top-rated 2016 candidate among women (http://theweek.com/speedreads/545641/new-gallup-poll-finds-hillary-clinton-toprated-2016-candidate-among-women)
Hillary Clinton tops the list of favorability ratings with women. Jeb Bush is at 32% and Scott Walker is at 17%, according to this new Gallup poll. It would seem that the GOP has their work cut out for them.
So what do the ratings provide?
A snapshot AT THAT POINT in time ONLY!
I feel like a broken record but feel the need to keep reminding that she also topped the favorability ratings with women in 2007.....she lost to a MALE, dark horse candidate...virtual unknown....unqualified candidate....who talked a better game.
She lost!
Guest
03-22-2015, 09:56 AM
So what do the ratings provide?
A snapshot AT THAT POINT in time ONLY!
I feel like a broken record but feel the need to keep reminding that she also topped the favorability ratings with women in 2007.....she lost to a MALE, dark horse candidate...virtual unknown....unqualified candidate....who talked a better game.
She lost!
And that MALE, dark horse candidate...virtual unknown...blah, blah, blah, was able to raise one billion dollars to compete. Who on the horizon has that kind of star power?
Not wanting to sound like a broken record, but who would that be?
Guest
03-22-2015, 10:07 AM
Sen. Ted Cruz will announce White House bid at Liberty University - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-cruz-will-launch-white-house-bid-monday/2015/03/22/5e81fa00-d064-11e4-8a46-b1dc9be5a8ff_story.html?postshare=8161427033862427 )
How great will it be that the first two candidates out of the gate for the GOP will be Ted Cruz and Donald Trump?
Guest
03-22-2015, 11:15 AM
Sen. Ted Cruz will announce White House bid at Liberty University - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-cruz-will-launch-white-house-bid-monday/2015/03/22/5e81fa00-d064-11e4-8a46-b1dc9be5a8ff_story.html?postshare=8161427033862427 )
How great will it be that the first two candidates out of the gate for the GOP will be Ted Cruz and Donald Trump?
Bring on the debates.
Guest
03-22-2015, 12:26 PM
Sen. Ted Cruz will announce White House bid at Liberty University - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-cruz-will-launch-white-house-bid-monday/2015/03/22/5e81fa00-d064-11e4-8a46-b1dc9be5a8ff_story.html?postshare=8161427033862427 )
How great will it be that the first two candidates out of the gate for the GOP will be Ted Cruz and Donald Trump?
You mean Trump and The Chump!
Guest
03-22-2015, 12:34 PM
This thread is entitled "Who Can Beat Hillary?"
No possibility of either Cruz or Trump winning over Sec. Clinton.
Scott Walker compares 100,000 union workers to ISIS and wants to send US ground forces into Syria. Americans have seen how well that works.
Jeb is in favor of a pathway to citizenship as is Rubio. That dog isn't going to jump for conservative nut cases.
Who you got left?
Guest
03-22-2015, 01:21 PM
This thread is entitled "Who Can Beat Hillary?"
No possibility of either Cruz or Trump winning over Sec. Clinton.
Scott Walker compares 100,000 union workers to ISIS and wants to send US ground forces into Syria. Americans have seen how well that works.
Jeb is in favor of a pathway to citizenship as is Rubio. That dog isn't going to jump for conservative nut cases.
Who you got left?
Surely, the old 6 PAC can come up with a few names that can beat Mrs. Clinton.:1rotfl: ...and don't call me Shirley.
Guest
03-22-2015, 02:40 PM
If voters paid attention to the problems this nation has and then compares them to the likely presidential candidate that can solve them then there is not a candidate on either side. Unfortunately there are far too many voters with a Kim Kardashian mentality and they consider themselves bright just to remember their favorite candidates name and the country will continue to suffer as it has for the last 6.5 years.
I wrote an editorial opinion long ago explaining that the Dems would push the "its time to elect a woman , president". And when your only qualification is that you are a woman I can see why the Dems would hype up that non sequitur issue.
Obama wants to make voting mandatory. I would readily agree with his proposal with one caveat that all voters be required to take a civics exam before they are allowed to vote. I'll wager better than half the voters would fail.
The country missed an opportunity when they rejected Mitt Romney. Romney lost because establishment Republicans failed to back him. Romney's analysis has proven accurate to both domestic an international issues. He is an honest and gifted businessman with a moral imperative and the intestinal fortitude to lead this nation .
It is sad to see such curt remarks by some posters who apparently cannot see the ultimate consequences of another inconsequential president
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
03-22-2015, 03:13 PM
If voters paid attention to the problems this nation has and then compares them to the likely presidential candidate that can solve them then there is not a candidate on either side. Unfortunately there are far too many voters with a Kim Kardashian mentality and they consider themselves bright just to remember their favorite candidates name and the country will continue to suffer as it has for the last 6.5 years.
I wrote an editorial opinion long ago explaining that the Dems would push the "its time to elect a woman , president". And when your only qualification is that you are a woman I can see why the Dems would hype up that non sequitur issue.
Obama wants to make voting mandatory. I would readily agree with his proposal with one caveat that all voters be required to take a civics exam before they are allowed to vote. I'll wager better than half the voters would fail.
The country missed an opportunity when they rejected Mitt Romney. Romney lost because establishment Republicans failed to back him. Romney's analysis has proven accurate to both domestic an international issues. He is an honest and gifted businessman with a moral imperative and the intestinal fortitude to lead this nation .
It is sad to see such curt remarks by some posters who apparently cannot see the ultimate consequences of another inconsequential president
Personal Best Regards:
I agree with you wholeheartedly about Mitt Romney. Although ideologically, he did not fit "my agenda" 100%, I admired his integrity, his experience, and his proven leadership enough to happily vote for him. I felt it was a vote in the right direction for the future of our country. I too believe that our country missed the opportunity to experience true leadership when we most needed it when he was not elected.
Guest
03-22-2015, 03:45 PM
All the drum and chest beating over Hillary. So she fits the it is time for a women president attitude.
And I guess it is fruitless to continue to ask what her qualifications are just like it was a waste of time asking about Obama's qualifications.
One thing he has that Clinton does not. He has more than amply demonstrated what happens when a non qualified heretofore unkown become POTUS.
Sounds some some are willing to take that gamble again because it is a woman?
I really don't think so. I think if the dem's party line said they wanted Nancy Pelosi for POTUS.....you all would be touting how she is the heir apparent.
I think it is pretty embarassing to not even have another candidate or two.
Must be nobody wants to follow Obama in the job except Clinton. She presents more of the same and that should be what becomes her down fall. In addition to her suffering credibility.
Guest
03-22-2015, 04:07 PM
All the drum and chest beating over Hillary. So she fits the it is time for a women president attitude.
And I guess it is fruitless to continue to ask what her qualifications are just like it was a waste of time asking about Obama's qualifications.
One thing he has that Clinton does not. He has more than amply demonstrated what happens when a non qualified heretofore unkown become POTUS.
Sounds some some are willing to take that gamble again because it is a woman?
I really don't think so. I think if the dem's party line said they wanted Nancy Pelosi for POTUS.....you all would be touting how she is the heir apparent.
I think it is pretty embarassing to not even have another candidate or two.
Must be nobody wants to follow Obama in the job except Clinton. She presents more of the same and that should be what becomes her down fall. In addition to her suffering credibility.
It sounds like Hillary Clinton is the worst candidate ever, so how come she beats every GOP contender by double digits? What does that say about the republican candidates?
If Hillary weren't running, there would be at least a dozen candidates vying for the job, but it is hard work and requires a lot of money to win the presidency. Who would put out all that effort when they are certain to lose?
BTW: there's been no answer to the question 'who can beat Hillary'?
All you Mitt Romney fans should get a draft Romney PAC started, or doesn't he want to lose for the third time?
Guest
03-22-2015, 04:23 PM
First of all, HILLARY HASN'T BEAT ANYONE YET........so knock off the "she beats every GOP contender yadda, yadda, yadda..."! The fact is, she hasn't even beat a Democrat contender YET!! It would be nice to talk FACTS here instead of theory.....and polls are just that - here today, gone tomorrow - pretty meaningless at this stage of the game. As a female, I too am tired of the "it's time for a woman president attitude". LET THE BEST MAN/WOMAN WIN!! I don't care the gender, race, religion, or anything else......let's just vote in a real leader who loves this country and ALL it's people!!
Guest
03-22-2015, 04:36 PM
First of all, HILLARY HASN'T BEAT ANYONE YET........so knock off the "she beats every GOP contender yadda, yadda, yadda..."! The fact is, she hasn't even beat a Democrat contender YET!! It would be nice to talk FACTS here instead of theory.....and polls are just that - here today, gone tomorrow - pretty meaningless at this stage of the game. As a female, I too am tired of the "it's time for a woman president attitude". LET THE BEST MAN/WOMAN WIN!! I don't care the gender, race, religion, or anything else......let's just vote in a real leader who loves this country and ALL it's people!!
It's so true that polls are just a snapshot in time, but it would be nice to see one sometime that is not lopsided. And who is that 'LET THE BEST MAN/WOMAN WIN?
Guest
03-22-2015, 04:39 PM
Last summer (July), MS Clinton said the following on CNN....
" I believe strongly that it's really important for there to be so little enrichment or no enrichment, at least for a long period of time."
Should she become the nominee, it will be interesting to hear her responses, since the President, is taking close to a total opposite approach.
Guest
03-22-2015, 06:39 PM
It's so true that polls are just a snapshot in time, but it would be nice to see one sometime that is not lopsided. And who is that 'LET THE BEST MAN/WOMAN WIN?
Now that's a good question, and I'll admit, I can't answer it. Still researching and studying the situation myself. And of course, why dwell on who that person might be when we don't even know who is running yet? The point is NO ONE person in my mind will be perfect enough to suit everyone's needs/desires. For that matter, I never expect that I will find a candidate who will perfectly suit all that I want, need, or desire. It's always a compromise because that is just life. My point in previous posts is to try to examine and select a candidate NOT just based on your own ideology - sure, that will factor in, but character traits like integrity, honesty, and disposition under pressure are all much more important to me. Also, someone who will listen to both sides of a discussion and work to bring people together. To me anyway, these are the signs of a good leader (BEST MAN/WOMAN). After all, the POTUS is supposed to be representative of ALL Americans, not pushing just their own ideology and trying to make a cult out of the American people. Of course, this is all JMHO. I'm pretty sure we are still free to express that in this country :icon_wink:.
Guest
03-23-2015, 10:19 AM
Leadership.
That quality of attribute significantly missing in current politics.
In the 2016 election one should exclude anybody who is a lawyer by profession....period....across the board....no matter who the candidate.
Guest
03-23-2015, 06:41 PM
Sen. Ted Cruz will announce White House bid at Liberty University - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-cruz-will-launch-white-house-bid-monday/2015/03/22/5e81fa00-d064-11e4-8a46-b1dc9be5a8ff_story.html?postshare=8161427033862427 )
How great will it be that the first two candidates out of the gate for the GOP will be Ted Cruz and Donald Trump?
Go to tedcruz.com for a message.
Guest
03-23-2015, 06:52 PM
Go to tedcruz.com for a message.
There will be those who will quickly zero in on Ted Cruz.
How can anybody argue with the message?
Guest
03-23-2015, 07:08 PM
Hillary is a liar a loser and a fake she would be as bad as obama.
Guest
03-23-2015, 07:26 PM
There will be those who will quickly zero in on Ted Cruz.
How can anybody argue with the message?
Ted Cruz Just Laid Out The Most Anti-Woman Agenda Yet | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/23/3637545/ted-cruz-just-laid-anti-woman-agenda-yet/)
Ted Cruz just laid out the most anti-woman agenda yet. He may get the evangelical vote, but that pales in comparison to the women's vote. Republicans lost women by 12% in 2012. They seem to need some help with that voting bloc. Ted Cruz is not the answer to that problem.
Guest
03-23-2015, 07:31 PM
Ted Cruz as VP would make Sarah Palin look like Queen Elizabeth.
Guest
03-23-2015, 09:28 PM
Ted Cruz as VP would make Sarah Palin look like Queen Elizabeth.
Even the panel members of "The Five" on Fox today agreed that while Cruz had some good points, he was unelectable. That kind of statement from Fox about a Republican says this candidate is dead in the water.
Guest
03-24-2015, 04:12 AM
Jeb Bush maybe. If your considering Ted Cruz, Rick Perry or Donald Trump, you need to better understand the voters in this country.:mornincoffee:
Guest
03-24-2015, 06:43 AM
Even the panel members of "The Five" on Fox today agreed that while Cruz had some good points, he was unelectable. That kind of statement from Fox about a Republican says this candidate is dead in the water.
Hi Guest: I watch The Five nightly. However, I find I as often agree as disagree with their statements, In my view the more likely voice of reason is Dana Perino. Let me first preface that there is never going to be a perfect candidate. Secondly that most of which any candidate says s/he will do will never come to fruition....and perhaps shouldn't. However, like Ted Cruz their opening remarks generally address what is on people's minds. So if you are for the flat tax he's your guy and if you believe gender inequality exists then Hillary is your gal. To me these are non sequiturs much like the social issues pushed by interested parties.
In my view my list of qualifications are simple.
Is the candidate an opportunist or truly interested in serving this nation?
What are this candidate's bona fides and how do they relate to the position of president?
What has this candidate done well in the past and/or failed to accomplish in their field of expertise? Example Mitt Romney is an excellent businessman and so I had confidence in his ability to right our economy.
Does the candidate have the intestinal fortitude to live up to his/her promises?
Is this candidate up to making the difficult choices when it comes to the defense of this nation?
Can this candidate be trusted to keep his/her word? In other words has the candidate kept to his/her promises in the past?
Is the candidate of truly moral character and yet wise to the ways of evil men/women?
Personal Best Regards
Guest
03-24-2015, 08:59 AM
Hi Guest: I watch The Five nightly. However, I find I as often agree as disagree with their statements, In my view the more likely voice of reason is Dana Perino. Let me first preface that there is never going to be a perfect candidate. Secondly that most of which any candidate says s/he will do will never come to fruition....and perhaps shouldn't. However, like Ted Cruz their opening remarks generally address what is on people's minds. So if you are for the flat tax he's your guy and if you believe gender inequality exists then Hillary is your gal. To me these are non sequiturs much like the social issues pushed by interested parties.
In my view my list of qualifications are simple.
Is the candidate an opportunist or truly interested in serving this nation?
What are this candidate's bona fides and how do they relate to the position of president?
What has this candidate done well in the past and/or failed to accomplish in their field of expertise? Example Mitt Romney is an excellent businessman and so I had confidence in his ability to right our economy.
Does the candidate have the intestinal fortitude to live up to his/her promises?
Is this candidate up to making the difficult choices when it comes to the defense of this nation?
Can this candidate be trusted to keep his/her word? In other words has the candidate kept to his/her promises in the past?
Is the candidate of truly moral character and yet wise to the ways of evil men/women?
Personal Best Regards
Obviously Clinton is not a candidate.
The sooner she steps down or gets knocked off (again) then the real democratic candidates will have a chance, like O'Malley:
Democrats favor Martin O (http://nypost.com/2015/03/23/democrats-favor-martin-omalley-for-president-if-hillary-doesnt-run/)
Guest
03-24-2015, 09:27 AM
Obviously Clinton is not a candidate.
The sooner she steps down or gets knocked off (again) then the real democratic candidates will have a chance, like O'Malley:
Democrats favor Martin O (http://nypost.com/2015/03/23/democrats-favor-martin-omalley-for-president-if-hillary-doesnt-run/)
Don't you just love the 'news' articles that quote an unnamed democratic source. The article fails to mention that O'Malley is polling at 1%, just under undecided. It also fails to mention how much money O'Malley has raised, who is running his organization and who is endorsing him???????
Guest
03-24-2015, 09:30 AM
Hilary Clinton stopped by the White House yesterday and met with President Obama for about an hour in an unannounced visit. On the way out, Obama handed her the keys to the front door so she could have copies made for her family and friends.
Guest
03-24-2015, 09:41 AM
Don't you just love the 'news' articles that quote an unnamed democratic source. The article fails to mention that O'Malley is polling at 1%, just under undecided. It also fails to mention how much money O'Malley has raised, who is running his organization and who is endorsing him???????
And please help us understand how Obama's ratings, rankings and funding were known one year before the 2008 election.
The discussion by the way was not about what is known or unknown but who else could be a candidate....one that could beat Clinton. Since she is beating herself, out of a shot at the job....others more known than Obama one year out are surfacing.
Off point and off messaging to avoid the issue....again?
Guest
03-24-2015, 10:56 AM
And please help us understand how Obama's ratings, rankings and funding were known one year before the 2008 election.
The discussion by the way was not about what is known or unknown but who else could be a candidate....one that could beat Clinton. Since she is beating herself, out of a shot at the job....others more known than Obama one year out are surfacing.
Off point and off messaging to avoid the issue....again?
Final Fundraising Figure: Obama's $750M - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6397572)
In 2008 in the 21 months leading up to the election, Barack Obama raised $750,000. More people contributed to his election than any other candidate in history.
Trust me, Martin O'Malley is no Barack Obama. At best, he is hoping for a cabinet position with future President Hilary Clinton.
Guest
03-24-2015, 12:37 PM
Final Fundraising Figure: Obama's $750M - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6397572)
In 2008 in the 21 months leading up to the election, Barack Obama raised $750,000. More people contributed to his election than any other candidate in history.
Trust me, Martin O'Malley is no Barack Obama. At best, he is hoping for a cabinet position with future President Hilary Clinton.
Thank God for that pearl of wisdom!
Guest
03-24-2015, 12:46 PM
Final Fundraising Figure: Obama's $750M - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6397572)
In 2008 in the 21 months leading up to the election, Barack Obama raised $750,000. And what is this supposed to signify? Is $750,000 in 21 months supposed to be a big deal?
More people contributed to his election than any other candidate in history. And what is this supposed to signify? I would also have to see the data from where that conclusion was deduced.
Trust me, Martin O'Malley is no Barack Obama. At best, he is hoping for a cabinet position with future President Hilary Clinton. That statement is obviously a very biased personal conclusion. Why would any rising younger generation candidate even think about being on her slate. Why would he risk his political future playing second fiddle in an administration led by a candidate with as many problems and issues as she does. Not one with a useable half a brain anyway.
See my reaction to your opinion above in red.
Guest
03-24-2015, 01:50 PM
It all means he is a very popular president. Get over it. You got your butt kicked..... Twice. And the way your koch brothers fed, homegrown terrorist organization, tea party candidates act, it will be four times in a row. You have no chance as long as you stay out there in right field establishing absolutely no commonalities with middle America!
Guest
03-24-2015, 02:03 PM
It all means he is a very popular president. Get over it. You got your butt kicked..... Twice. And the way your koch brothers fed, homegrown terrorist organization, tea party candidates act, it will be four times in a row. You have no chance as long as you stay out there in right field establishing absolutely no commonalities with middle America!
It is very easy to be popular when providing financial handouts, food stamps, open borders or dependencies to name just a few. These kinds of benefits and dependencies in no way shape form or illusion constitute or represent a capability to be a good president. Only that he has and will continue to do whatever it takes for re-election or maintenance of the party.
And now that there is no re-election at risk he goes about doing whatever he wants whether anybody cares or not.
Guest
03-24-2015, 05:51 PM
It all means he is a very popular president. Get over it. You got your butt kicked..... Twice. And the way your koch brothers fed, homegrown terrorist organization, tea party candidates act, it will be four times in a row. You have no chance as long as you stay out there in right field establishing absolutely no commonalities with middle America!
And what exactly has this current president done for middle America? I think nothing, except broken it's back. Middle America tends to be a self-reliant, hard working group of people, not ones looking for free hand-outs and more government control of their lives. My prediction is that this election cycle will be a very different one indeed. I think more people are fed up with the direction this country is going than you choose to believe.
Guest
03-24-2015, 06:07 PM
And what exactly has this current president done for middle America? I think nothing, except broken it's back. Middle America tends to be a self-reliant, hard working group of people, not ones looking for free hand-outs and more government control of their lives. My prediction is that this election cycle will be a very different one indeed. I think more people are fed up with the direction this country is going than you choose to believe.
Well stated.
Guest
03-25-2015, 03:35 PM
Before too long....anybody:
The Case of the High-Flying (Alleged) Pedophile | Observer (http://observer.com/2015/03/the-jeffrey-epstein-affair-imperils-hillary-clintons-presidential-prospects/)
Guest
03-25-2015, 03:46 PM
And what exactly has this current president done for middle America? I think nothing, except broken it's back. Middle America tends to be a self-reliant, hard working group of people, not ones looking for free hand-outs and more government control of their lives. My prediction is that this election cycle will be a very different one indeed. I think more people are fed up with the direction this country is going than you choose to believe.
:bigbow:
Guest
03-25-2015, 06:42 PM
And what exactly has this current president done for middle America? I think nothing, except broken it's back. Middle America tends to be a self-reliant, hard working group of people, not ones looking for free hand-outs and more government control of their lives. My prediction is that this election cycle will be a very different one indeed. I think more people are fed up with the direction this country is going than you choose to believe.
:BigApplause:
Guest
04-07-2015, 10:38 AM
In slick willie bills mind Monica! She like cigars where the sun don't shine!:1rotfl::1rotfl:
Guest
04-07-2015, 10:59 AM
Donald Trump beats Rand Paul, Chris Christie in poll | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-beats-rand-paul-chris-christie-poll?cid=sm_tw_msnbc)
Donald Trump is the new frontrunner in the GOP field to beat Hillary Clinton.
Guest
04-08-2015, 07:54 AM
Donald Trump beats Rand Paul, Chris Christie in poll | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-beats-rand-paul-chris-christie-poll?cid=sm_tw_msnbc)
Donald Trump is the new frontrunner in the GOP field to beat Hillary Clinton.
I guess if he happened to be the republicans candidate and if Clinton is the democratic candidate all he has to do to beat her is a good debator and he could knock her off like Obama did in 2008.
Guest
04-08-2015, 09:06 AM
Before too long....anybody:
The Case of the High-Flying (Alleged) Pedophile | Observer (http://observer.com/2015/03/the-jeffrey-epstein-affair-imperils-hillary-clintons-presidential-prospects/)
Hillary supporters ... please let us know if this type of behavior bothers you at all. I know you like her, and think she'll be a great president, and will win etc. That's not what I'm asking.
does the character issue of Bill and/or Hillary in any way concern you, or is it no big deal?
Guest
04-08-2015, 09:38 AM
Hillary supporters ... please let us know if this type of behavior bothers you at all. I know you like her, and think she'll be a great president, and will win etc. That's not what I'm asking.
does the character issue of Bill and/or Hillary in any way concern you, or is it no big deal?
No big deal
Guest
04-08-2015, 09:48 AM
No big deal
So it amounts to robotic response to support party first no matter the candidate's past?
There can be only one reason for such blind obedience. The need for the existing government's give away programs and out of control spending to continue.
Guest
04-08-2015, 10:53 AM
So it amounts to robotic response to support party first no matter the candidate's past?
There can be only one reason for such blind obedience. The need for the existing government's give away programs and out of control spending to continue.
If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question. Everyone that doesn't agree with you is not on the government nickel.
Guest
04-08-2015, 11:04 AM
So it amounts to robotic response to support party first no matter the candidate's past?
Did it bother you that George W used to regularly use cocaine or that Laura Bush killed a person as a teen while driving drunk or that Cheney was a draft dodger?
Guest
04-08-2015, 01:45 PM
If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question. Everyone that doesn't agree with you is not on the government nickel.
I in no way asked or insuated I was seeking agreement.
Can a point be made without restating one's intents?
Guest
04-08-2015, 01:48 PM
Did it bother you that George W used to regularly use cocaine or that Laura Bush killed a person as a teen while driving drunk or that Cheney was a draft dodger?
Wow that is so far out in left (pun intended) field it isn't even visible.
Reminds me a lot of someone flailing.
Also would help if you could enlighten us how this tirade fits the discussion.
Guest
04-08-2015, 03:02 PM
Speaking of character of the candidates and their families and wheter or not it is or was a big deal - the character of George W had been a regular user of cocaine, Laura Bush having killed someone when she was driving drunk as a teen, and war-monger Cheney being so much of a chicken to evade the draft. Even cowardly W got his daddy to buy him a spot in the Texas Air Guard.
But, to me it is no big deal.
Guest
04-08-2015, 03:19 PM
I thought that the topic was who could beat Hillary? However we have some posters with short attention spans or have no ability to respond to the question.
and seem to have a priori aversion to addressing the topic at hand. If this were a college exam do you suppose you could say well I don't know the answer to this question but let me tell you about....... I understand this is not an exam but I also understand that posters who don't address the question at hand have probably deflected their entire lives.
So to those posters just say I don't know people will think more highly of you
My thought is that before one can venture a guess as to who can beat of the Hillary that Hillary first publicly announce she is running. Secondly that she get the nomination to run for the Democratic party before anyone can determine who can beat her. While it might appear as if it is a done deal we don't really know that because its still early in the campaign game.
Personal Best Regards:
This forum is getting confusing because everyone is named guest and its also difficult because one can'delete or edit one's post.
I thought of signing off with my username but wondered if the Admin would delete it?
Guest
04-08-2015, 03:25 PM
Speaking of character of the candidates and their families and wheter or not it is or was a big deal - the character of George W had been a regular user of cocaine, Laura Bush having killed someone when she was driving drunk as a teen, and war-monger Cheney being so much of a chicken to evade the draft. Even cowardly W got his daddy to buy him a spot in the Texas Air Guard.
But, to me it is no big deal.
And here likewise.
I for one do not like the permissive lifestyle. Everything is OK. Well it is not.
Rules, laws being ignored without consequence.
Folks in public office can do just about anything and it seems to be OK with far too many people.
It used to be when something was wrong you did something about it. When someone did or does something wrong one could bring it to their attention. If they are breaking the law then deal what comes with the violation, including politician, movie stars and the super rich.
Crooked politicians need to be reminded they do not get our vote.
Our character and sense of right and wrong has been completely watered down to a point of embarassment.
Guest
04-08-2015, 03:26 PM
The wrong post is quoted above. The one that should have been was...It does matter to me.
Guest
04-08-2015, 03:35 PM
Many people are disolutioned with the last years with the wrong democrat so who ever the republicans put out there will win. Look at the history of politics this is what usually happens back and forth. The problem no matter who is elected we get no where. We never get to the top of the pile and that my friends is the problem. There really should not be individual parties just candidates and they should be elected by their history and experience . Not by the party lines
Guest
04-08-2015, 03:43 PM
Anyone should be able to beat Hillary. The latest email deception, Benghazi and the fact that she hasn't accomplished anything as secretary of state has proven she is not qualified. That being said you will always have the uninformed voters who will pull the lever for anyone wearing a skirt.
Guest
04-08-2015, 04:38 PM
Anyone should be able to beat Hillary. The latest email deception, Benghazi and the fact that she hasn't accomplished anything as secretary of state has proven she is not qualified. That being said you will always have the uninformed voters who will pull the lever for anyone wearing a skirt.
Just as some will vote for the initial beside the name. Case in point .... Fla elected a world class thief and pathological liar as Governor, not once but unbelievably enough twice.
Guest
04-08-2015, 05:32 PM
Just as some will vote for the initial beside the name. Case in point .... Fla elected a world class thief and pathological liar as Governor, not once but unbelievably enough twice.
I thought Charlie Crist lost??
Guest
04-08-2015, 05:37 PM
No big deal
Ok, so Hillary / Bill collective character is not a big deal.
Does that mean you're ok with their behavior (eg the pedophile thing with Bill), or that you don't necessarily approve / condone their behavior but you like their polices so you feel like you need to support them politically?
Guest
04-08-2015, 05:45 PM
Did it bother you that George W used to regularly use cocaine or that Laura Bush killed a person as a teen while driving drunk or that Cheney was a draft dodger?
Yes, it did bother me that W did that. But, he had a religious conversion and got on the wagon for which I give him credit.
Did it bother you that Bill Clinton used cocaine while in the White House?
Do you care that he is still (until recently) hanging out with known billionaire pedophiles so he can tap into the young teen girls?
Guest
04-08-2015, 06:23 PM
I thought Charlie Crist lost??
I didn't know that Tan Charlie was in charge of a company to perpetrated the largest Medicare scam in history and had to take the 5th 75 times to weasel his way out of responsibility.
Guest
04-08-2015, 06:51 PM
Wow! Someone is citing an MSNBC poll! This is the worst network ever? Even losing to the Clinton New network. When MSNBC polls their own viewers, of course they will say Trump. They will say anything the idiots on this network tells them to say. What a joke and losers....
Guest
04-08-2015, 08:28 PM
Hillary will be our next President.
Guest
04-08-2015, 08:46 PM
I thought that the topic was who could beat Hillary? However we have some posters with short attention spans or have no ability to respond to the question.
and seem to have a priori aversion to addressing the topic at hand. If this were a college exam do you suppose you could say well I don't know the answer to this question but let me tell you about....... I understand this is not an exam but I also understand that posters who don't address the question at hand have probably deflected their entire lives.
So to those posters just say I don't know people will think more highly of you
My thought is that before one can venture a guess as to who can beat of the Hillary that Hillary first publicly announce she is running. Secondly that she get the nomination to run for the Democratic party before anyone can determine who can beat her. While it might appear as if it is a done deal we don't really know that because its still early in the campaign game.
Personal Best Regards:
This forum is getting confusing because everyone is named guest and its also difficult because one can'delete or edit one's post.
I thought of signing off with my username but wondered if the Admin would delete it?
Use your username. It doesn't bother me. And I think everybody knows aiready.
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