Am I the only one that suspects?

[MnGirl]

I have been watching TV build for a long time now, and when someone talks of "the end" I just chuckle. I would love to use the words "for sure", but nothing is ever "for sure". The Villages in my opinion is on its way to Colman. There is electrical expansion going on down County Road 468, off of Cnty. Rd.44. Then, they are building a bridge over the turnpike (I believe to Village property). Now, in my opinion, that road wasn't that heavily traveled to spend that kind of money.
Also, the placement of Brownwood is too odd, if they weren't going to cross 44. I expect, not too far down Cnty Rd. 468 there will be another square. Time will tell, but if someone wants to put some money on it, I'd be willing.

[Bogie Shooter]

Do you read all of the posts on TOTV?

[MnGirl]

I do. It seemed many thought TV will be done building in 2020, and I know realtors told me they didn't know if they we going to cross 44. It seems, some are still not informed.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Buildout is a myth. I've ben saying this since th day I arrived almost three years ago.
I just posted something about this on another thread recently so I'm not going to repeat myself. As long as people want to come here and buy new homes, why would they stop building?

[manaboutown]

As long as there is money to be made...

[sunnyatlast]

As long as there is money to be made...

Also, as long as there are home buyers and owners to please. TV wouldn't be building like they are if there weren't customers who want the new homes.

Also, the three counties and school districts have to love the conversion of unused pasture and swamp into residential subdivisions that pay much higher property taxes than the former land owners paid.

[JoMar]

I would think they will need to establish commercial districts on 44 to sustain any growth. Driving from 44 to 441 is inconvenient at best. The long term income for the Developer must have commercial properties. Also, not sure there are large tracts of land available, lots of signs but understand they are relatively small, maybe hundreds of acres rather than the thousands necessary. As in the past, everything in this thread is pure speculation since the Developer never announces his intentions.....but hey, speculation is fun......:)

[Bonanza]

TV will probably be built out at some point in the future, but I don't believe it will be in any of our lifetimes.
There are too many "new" hands in the pot now.
The new Rohan Rec Center is a sign of the things to come in the area of Rt. 44.
Don't kid yourself; they will buy up parcels of land acre-by-acre, if necessary.
I don't know any of this as fact. But to me, it just makes sense.

[Abby10]

[QUOTE=sunnyatlast;1033014]Also, as long as there are home buyers and owners to please. TV wouldn't be building like they are if there weren't customers who want the new homes.

Sunnyatlast - you are right. In the area that I currently live in up north, just a short year or so ago, when I would talk about The Villages no one had ever heard of it. My, how things have changed! Now when I mention it, it is unusual when someone doesn't know about it. I have no doubt that this is going on all over the country and may be part of the reason why TV is seeing a continual increase in new buyers. The word is definitely OUT!!

[rjn5656]

Why not? As long as they do a quality job, let him them keep building.

[DeanFL]

Interesting thought on the southern expansion of TV.

- Perhaps the long term goal of the Developer is to continue on building until we run into a Costco - to silence those that want one...

- Or even continue down to Disney, and have monorail access to each Village Square. The Villages would be renamed OldPeopleLand. 'course by then Park tickets would be $595 a day.

- And, if they do expand to Coleman (the Federal Penitentiary) would that facility become its own Village? 2,000 inmates/Villagers and their lots are very small... nice amenities tho.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

"The End is Near".... but not for the Villages LOL

[JP]

MnGirl, I totally agree with you! Another key of this expansion, that you didn't mention, is 301 is also being widened to 4 lanes(and a boulevard?) starting at I-75 just south of Wildwood that will intersect with County Road 468 just north of Coleman. This is going to create a gigantic wedge of land south of I-75 that will be surrounded by all new 4 lane roads and utilities that will be ripe for development.

[skip0358]

Well I've said they weren't done for a while joking Key West is a long ways ahead. If you haven't seen the Article in that other Villages online news they're now going after the big plot at Rt. 468 & 466A in Wildwood. So no I don't think anytime soon. As long as there is land and people that want homes in TV I do believe they will continue. JMO

I do agree we will need more stores on the south end along the Rt. 44 corridor or perhaps the 468 extension..

[ttown]

To put it in perspective , in 1988 we were told it would be all manufactured homes, and only east of 441/27.

[Greg Nelson]

Money always reigns! Florida is becoming an urban sprawl....what happens if the baby boomers are no more? Will it matter? From Tampa and south past Sarasota new 'communities' are like wild fire.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It was reported in the online news this morning that they are trying to buy land for 200 additional home north of 466A and East of 462 in Wildwood.

Let the whining begin.

[dewilson58]

Nothing new here.

[2BNTV]

"who's to say" comes to mind when speculating about build-out ending.

Only the developer knows for sure, period.

With a whole lot of people retiring in the next several years and the demand continuing to be great, I can speculated, TV population will be 200,000? :smiley:

[Northwoods]

I think as long as they continue to build the infrastructure (executive golf courses, rec. centers, etc). to support the new houses it's all good. Now, you have to get to a rec. center an hour early to participate in some activities. Plus it isn't always easy to get a tee time on executive courses. So I hope they continue to include golf courses and rec. centers as they add more homes.

[graciegirl]

Why not? As long as they do a quality job, let him them keep building.


I so agree.

[HimandMe]

I have been watching TV build for a long time now, and when someone talks of "the end" I just chuckle. I would love to use the words "for sure", but nothing is ever "for sure". The Villages in my opinion is on its way to Colman. There is electrical expansion going on down County Road 468, off of Cnty. Rd.44. Then, they are building a bridge over the turnpike (I believe to Village property). Now, in my opinion, that road wasn't that heavily traveled to spend that kind of money.
Also, the placement of Brownwood is too odd, if they weren't going to cross 44. I expect, not too far down Cnty Rd. 468 there will be another square. Time will tell, but if someone wants to put some money on it, I'd be willing.

Re expansion down Cty Rd 468....isn't that where the Villages supplied the land to get direct access to the turnpike for us?

[tomwed]

Interesting thought on the southern expansion of TV.

- Perhaps the long term goal of the Developer is to continue on building until we run into a Costco - to silence those that want one...

- Or even continue down to Disney, and have monorail access to each Village Square. The Villages would be renamed OldPeopleLand. 'courquse by then Park tickets would be $595 a day.

- And, if they do expand to Coleman (the Federal Penitentiary) would that facility become its own Village? 2,000 inmates/Villagers and their lots are very small... nice amenities tho.

Couldn't we be "Never Never Land" instead of "old people land"? It sounds a lot more optimistic.

Coleman can be "The Island for Bad Boys and Pirates". It won't be my favorite square but the music might be refreshing. I don't expect the buffet to be very appealing but it's a little too soon to complain.

[tomwed]

I once was prepping for an argument of diminishing exec courses. I thought in 2007 there were more to pick from taking the population into consideration. People I was paired up with told me it was easy to get a tee off time or just walk on in 2007. But when I divided the population by the number of exec courses now and in 2007 the number was one exec course for 3,200 residents, now and then.

I think there are more golfers per population now then in 2007, not more residents per exec golf course.

[karostay]

I have been watching TV build for a long time now, and when someone talks of "the end" I just chuckle. I would love to use the words "for sure", but nothing is ever "for sure". The Villages in my opinion is on its way to Colman. There is electrical expansion going on down County Road 468, off of Cnty. Rd.44. Then, they are building a bridge over the turnpike (I believe to Village property). Now, in my opinion, that road wasn't that heavily traveled to spend that kind of money.
Also, the placement of Brownwood is too odd, if they weren't going to cross 44. I expect, not too far down Cnty Rd. 468 there will be another square. Time will tell, but if someone wants to put some money on it, I'd be willing.

It's kinda like Cher's final tour she had one after another took years LOL:a20:

[kcrazorbackfan]

My opinion (only, no facts to back it up) it that realtors have helped to fuel this "Build Out" myth by telling people they are showing homes to that "the build out is coming and that you had better buy a home while you have the opportunity". I seem to vaguely remember our realtor mentioning that when we were looking and I asked how big will TV get.

[Chi-Town]

As one who has some trepidation about a build out I say this:

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[rubicon]

There is no question that The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc. will continue to build, expand and re-build that's a given.

The more important question in my mind is what effect it will have "The Villages Lifestyle"? Will The Villages become so large and complex that it will no longer be able to function as it does now? We have all seen a business or two or three that have enjoyed quickly expanding in a thriving economy only to go bankrupt. While that won't happen to The Village I do believe The Village will lose much of its appeal from being over built.

[Villageswimmer]

My opinion (only, no facts to back it up) it that realtors have helped to fuel this "Build Out" myth by telling people they are showing homes to that "the build out is coming and that you had better buy a home while you have the opportunity". I seem to vaguely remember our realtor mentioning that when we were looking and I asked how big will TV get.

Not to be a Pollyanna, but when realtors said/implied that, I think that's what they truly believed based on the facts they had at the time.

[graciegirl]

Not to be a Pollyanna, but when realtors said/implied that, I think that's what they truly believed based on the facts they had at the time.


I agree.

AND God knows I have been called a Pollyanna. (and far worse)

Jim McLaughlin is someone who has sold us two houses and I trust his word, knowing him as we do, and he always says that the sales staff is told when the public is told of a new happening. I don't think it was planned, I really do think there was a build out that they were heading for, and they changed their minds.

[rubicon]

Before we all get carried away with reason for the expansion of highways outside TV consider that the surrounding towns ,etc are also expanding rapidly

[2BNTV]

I agree.

AND God knows I have been called a Pollyanna. (and far worse)

Jim McLaughlin is someone who has sold us two houses and I trust his word, knowing him as we do, and he always says that the sales staff is told when the public is told of a new happening. I don't think it was planned, I really do think there was a build out that they were heading for, and they changed their minds.

:agree: When I first saw TV, the build-out date was 2010.

Why wouldn't the developer keep on building when the demand is still great? I have faith in the Morse family doing the right thing by building the necessary amenities that will enhance the new housing.

More and more people are retiring everyday and we are fast becoming an older population. At least from what I have read.

[Polar Bear]

The term build-out simply refers to approximately when construction will be complete for the current plan. Plans change and the corresponding build-out estimate changes with it. The only thing that would be rare and unusual is if the plan (and corresponding build-out estimate) never changed.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I don't mind how big TV gets as long as they build/update the infrastructure/facilities and increase the number of golf courses to handle expansion. I've lived in small town America most of my life and I like having more choices of places to go and things to do in a large metropolitan area vs. a small town.

[Grandfinch]

All the reasons I read on here about the negative's of continuing to build are just guesses. Our first visit was in the summer of 2004. Lake Sumter was just getting under way. Now we live in Lake Sumter. Comments were made then about getting too big. I may have my head buried in the Florida sand, but, I like it even more with the addition of Brownwood.

[Bonanza]

Do you read all of the posts on TOTV?

What does that have to do with anything?

[JoMar]

Why do we care......oh yeah, speculation is why we exist....lol