Bergdahl charged with desertion (Finally)

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Finally some good news:

Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/25/bowe-bergdahl-once-missing-u-s-soldier-charged-with-desertion/?hpid=z1)

Now let us hope he gets the maximum allowed sentencing!

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Don't forget Obummer traded the terrorist "dream team" for this deserter. Obummer KNEW he was a deserter before the trade because Bergdahl's fellow soldiers told everyone the guy cleaned out his locker and voluntarily walked off base (deserted).

This is, yet again, indicative of the poor judgement of our community organizer. What a terrible president.

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Yes good news. Wonder if a press conference will be held on this and someone held accountable for this?

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Yes good news. Wonder if a press conference will be held on this and someone held accountable for this?

Maybe Obama will call Bergdahls parents and tell them...I got this (again).

[Guest]

Finally some good news:

Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/25/bowe-bergdahl-once-missing-u-s-soldier-charged-with-desertion/?hpid=z1)

Now let us hope he gets the maximum allowed sentencing!
I guess I missed where he was already found guilty, or are you quoting something you heard on Fox? Although what we've heard sound very suspect, innocent until proven guilty is one of the pillars of America, don't throw it away so quickly.

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I guess I missed where he was already found guilty, or are you quoting something you heard on Fox? Although what we've heard sound very suspect, innocent until proven guilty is one of the pillars of America, don't throw it away so quickly.

Old Bowie will soon be getting a boyfriend! :22yikes:

He's guilty!

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It takes a special kind of stupid to do what Obama did … trade five senior Taliban commanders for one Muslim-sympathizing deserter.

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I guess I missed where he was already found guilty, or are you quoting something you heard on Fox? Although what we've heard sound very suspect, innocent until proven guilty is one of the pillars of America, don't throw it away so quickly.

Legally speaking he's innocent until proven guilty.

On the other hand anyone with combat experience, and based on his unit members public comments it's obvious this SOB is guilty as hell. He put his buddies at risk having to search for him and then he likely gave Intel to the enemy

He deserves to be shot by firing squad but unfortunately we no longer do that

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What "Intel" does a Private First Class (like Bergdahl was at the time) have that would be helpful to the enemy?

I also heard on the news that it is very likely that Bergdahl's lawyer team has worked out a plea deal that involves no jail time.

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Susan rice stated he served with honor and distinction

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What "Intel" does a Private First Class (like Bergdahl was at the time) have that would be helpful to the enemy?

You could probably answer your own question if you ever served in the military. Then again maybe not.

Answer: troop strength, area of operation, scheduled movements, weapon availability, radio communication, freuencies, etc.

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What "Intel" does a Private First Class (like Bergdahl was at the time) have that would be helpful to the enemy?

I also heard on the news that it is very likely that Bergdahl's lawyer team has worked out a plea deal that involves no jail time.

Unit capabilities, plans, commo procedures, objectives and various other data of use to enemy fighters who are trying to kill US troops

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Legally speaking he's innocent until proven guilty.

On the other hand anyone with combat experience, and based on his unit members public comments it's obvious this SOB is guilty as hell. He put his buddies at risk having to search for him and then he likely gave Intel to the enemy

He deserves to be shot by firing squad but unfortunately we no longer do that

Remember, there are surprise verdicts sometimes when we all think it is a slam dunk. Example might be OJ Simpson. Another might be Casey Anthony. Juries found both of them not guilty.

The Army most likely will be open to a plea deal with no jail time for public relations.

His lawyers will have to decide what route to take for the best interest of the client.

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Unit capabilities, plans, commo procedures, objectives and various other data of use to enemy fighters who are trying to kill US troops

A private first class does not have access to that information.

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A private first class does not have access to that information.

Quit trolling. Every man in a unit would have tactical information beneficial to the enemy.

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Quit trolling. Every man in a unit would have tactical information beneficial to the enemy.

A pfc knows how to fill and pile sandbags. He would not have access to commo codes, planned operations, etc. those are made available to nco's and officers.

Bergdahl never should have been sent to Afghanistan. An Army shrink could have determined that fact. How long was Bergdahl in the Army before going to Afghanistan? He was only a pfc. With normal advancement, he should have been an E-4 by that time. Guys usually make E-3 out of AIT now and E-4 six months later.

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Paint it any way one would like.
He abandoned his post.
He went to the enemy.
His comrades in arms know the details.

What we are dealing with now is the "team" is now going to do what ever it can to make sure Obama does not look like he screwed the pooch.

Let us hope that military justice does not go the way of the DOJ where laws are selectively enforced.
Let us hope the guilty can still be punished.

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A pfc knows how to fill and pile sandbags. He would not have access to commo codes, planned operations, etc. those are made available to nco's and officers.

Bergdahl never should have been sent to Afghanistan. An Army shrink could have determined that fact. How long was Bergdahl in the Army before going to Afghanistan? He was only a pfc. With normal advancement, he should have been an E-4 by that time. Guys usually make E-3 out of AIT now and E-4 six months later.

You sound like a pretzel trying to deny the obvious ... you probably root for the enemy deep down for all we know

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Remember, there are surprise verdicts sometimes when we all think it is a slam dunk. Example might be OJ Simpson. Another might be Casey Anthony. Juries found both of them not guilty.

The Army most likely will be open to a plea deal with no jail time for public relations.

His lawyers will have to decide what route to take for the best interest of the client.

You sound like you hope he gets acquited ... which is consistent with an anti-American world view

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You sound like a pretzel trying to deny the obvious ... you probably root for the enemy deep down for all we know

...and for all we know, you are a 10 year old child in Mississippi playing with your Mommy's computer.

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...and for all we know, you are a 10 year old child in Mississippi playing with your Mommy's computer.

The gang of 5 has a singular point of vue. If you disagree they will attack personally. When you counter they whine like little babies. To label someone anti American just for differing in opinion is so typical of this group!

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This experiment with the political forum has shown:

Guest is an inhibitor to viable counterpoint dialogue

Not being able to edit allows far too much icorrect spelling, geammar, etc.

It is noteable in a world full of events that affect our lives the lack of varying subjects posted. WHile school yard like bickering continues for days/weeks.

And it is very difficult in some cases to determine whether one person is involved in all the counterpoints.

Without improvement I predict the forum will self destruct as mant like me tire of the trash talk. Congratulations to the minority, AGAIN.

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A pfc knows how to fill and pile sandbags. He would not have access to commo codes, planned operations, etc. those are made available to nco's and officers...

I take it that you implying that he had NO information that would have aided the enemy.

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The gang of 5 has a singular point of vue. If you disagree they will attack personally. When you counter they whine like little babies. To label someone anti American just for differing in opinion is so typical of this group!


Back in the days of the original Political Forum, weren't these bullies called The 6 Pack?

Yes, they were very good about dog piling on one poster but then cried when some liberals did it to one of them. Very typical schoolyard bullies - to use their own term.

Back on topic, just by saying Bergdahl may get a plea deal with no jail time - as discussed on the news - or saying he was mentally unfit to go to Afghanistan - does not mean Bergdahl is a hero. He is not a hero. He was a confused kid who did not want to fight anymore and took the only way out a confused kid could think of. Wrong way, for sure, but not a traitor. Deserter but not a traitor.

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Back in the days of the original Political Forum, weren't these bullies called The 6 Pack?

Yes, they were very good about dog piling on one poster but then cried when some liberals did it to one of them. Very typical schoolyard bullies - to use their own term.

Back on topic, just by saying Bergdahl may get a plea deal with no jail time - as discussed on the news - or saying he was mentally unfit to go to Afghanistan - does not mean Bergdahl is a hero. He is not a hero. He was a confused kid who did not want to fight anymore and took the only way out a confused kid could think of. Wrong way, for sure, but not a traitor. Deserter but not a traitor.

There have been a many confused kids that served in the military throughout our history that did not want to fight, but they didn't desert.

I get it, he deserted and it's someone else's fault. With liberals, it always is.

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Susan rice stated he served with honor and distinction

And how would she know anything about that??:D

[Guest]

This experiment with the political forum has shown:

Guest is an inhibitor to viable counterpoint dialogue

Not being able to edit allows far too much icorrect spelling, geammar, etc.

It is noteable in a world full of events that affect our lives the lack of varying subjects posted. WHile school yard like bickering continues for days/weeks.

And it is very difficult in some cases to determine whether one person is involved in all the counterpoints.

Without improvement I predict the forum will self destruct as mant like me tire of the trash talk. Congratulations to the minority, AGAIN.


Is this a joke? A poster complaining about spelling and grammar in a post filled with spelling and grammatical errors.

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Is this a joke? A poster complaining about spelling and grammar in a post filled with spelling and grammatical errors.

It figures you would ignore the message and go after what makes your heart beat faster.

Anyway thank you for making my points :censored:

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Is this a joke? NO!

A poster complaining about spelling and grammar in a post filled with spelling and grammatical errors. Congratulations!


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...and for all we know, you are a 10 year old child in Mississippi playing with your Mommy's computer.

You have proven yourself thru many posts to be the bonafide village idiot ... on all sorts of topics I might add

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How many on this forum really believe that Bowe Bergdahl will receive a lengthy prison term (25 years to life), medium term (10-20 years), short term (3-5 years) or no prison at all but a Dishonorable Discharge or Bad Conduct Discharge?

Put down what you believe he WILL get and NOT what you believe SHOULD get.

I am guessing the short term plus a DD.

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You have proven yourself thru many posts to be the bonafide village idiot ... on all sorts of topics I might add

time after time after time after time consistently without fail

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You have proven yourself thru many posts to be the bonafide village idiot ... on all sorts of topics I might add

Y usted.:loco:

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How many on this forum really believe that Bowe Bergdahl will receive a lengthy prison term (25 years to life), medium term (10-20 years), short term (3-5 years) or no prison at all but a Dishonorable Discharge or Bad Conduct Discharge?

Put down what you believe he WILL get and NOT what you believe SHOULD get.

I am guessing the short term plus a DD.

I will guess the last one, no prison at all. He served more years in captivity than the neo-cons who lied us into war will ever see.

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lbl

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oh oh the cloak was deactivated

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I will guess the last one, no prison at all. He served more years in captivity than the neo-cons who lied us into war will ever see.

Excellent, albeit unintended, example of deranged liberal illogical "logic"

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Back in the days of the original Political Forum, weren't these bullies called The 6 Pack?

Yes, they were very good about dog piling on one poster but then cried when some liberals did it to one of them. Very typical schoolyard bullies - to use their own term.

Back on topic, just by saying Bergdahl may get a plea deal with no jail time - as discussed on the news - or saying he was mentally unfit to go to Afghanistan - does not mean Bergdahl is a hero. He is not a hero. He was a confused kid who did not want to fight anymore and took the only way out a confused kid could think of. Wrong way, for sure, but not a traitor. Deserter but not a traitor.

If it's proven he deserted, and then aided / abetted the enemy for whatever reason, he is indeed a traitor ... most especially if it turns out Bergdahls actions led to the deaths of American soldiers.

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...and for all we know, you are a 10 year old child in Mississippi playing with your Mommy's computer.

to which you wrote

You have proven yourself thru many posts to be the bonafide village idiot ... on all sorts of topics I might add

Off topic, but I see this sort of thing all the time. How in the world do you know who you are responding to? How can you possibly write about the content of Guest's many posts? Do you have some secret decoder ring or a fully functioning Ouija board? Otherwise your post makes no sense at all.

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to which you wrote



Off topic, but I see this sort of thing all the time. How in the world do you know who you are responding to? How can you possibly write about the content of Guest's many posts? Do you have some secret decoder ring or a fully functioning Ouija board? Otherwise your post makes no sense at all.

It's very simple ... when you subscribe to email for the topic being discussed, Political Forum included, the email provides the TOTV user name of the poster, the "Guest" alias notwithstanding.

To comply with forum rules I do not post or mention the posters name. However, I do in fact know who the poster is as does anyone who subscribes

Thus, in that light, I can confidently reassert that the poster in question does indeed warrant the special recognition I gave him ... to wit he is clearly entitled to the Village Idiot award. His post are usually rambling, often incoherent and occasionally racist.

Yours, by contrast, are always well argued, typically backed up by data and effective sourcing. You're a dedicated liberal but you make your case, well, even if misguided 😀