Villages Expansion

[robertj1954]

I heard The Villages has purchased the large trac of land on the north side of 466 A that is across from Pinellas Plaza and the golf courses.

They are in talks with Wildwood on development and may be building another executive course. Anyone hear this or can ad information? The land has been on the market for many years and is now used for cattle.

[justjim]

There is a Thread on this subject and it's true that this land you speak of will be developed by The Villages.

[MoeVonB61]

So much for property values rising "as the Villages approaches build-out"......looks like the building is not going to stop and it's too crowded already........

[JoMar]

I heard The Villages has purchased the large trac of land on the north side of 466 A that is across from Pinellas Plaza and the golf courses.

They are in talks with Wildwood on development and may be building another executive course. Anyone hear this or can ad information? The land has been on the market for many years and is now used for cattle.

I think that discussion has been on here a while ago.......you might want to search for the tread. As I remember your questions were answered in that thread.

[billlaur]

isn't that great. the more the merrier...............:bigbow:

[graciegirl]

If people find that this place is getting too big, or they can't like how it is run, or they think the "Sharon" isn't big enough, or they think the Morse family are underhanded, or they don't like Gretchen Carlson being invited to speak here,or they are fed up with no one doing anything about the seats being saved and a certain political group moving here in droves,
they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to a smaller area more conducive to their ideas of perfect.

For me and mine, we are very happy here in Lower Paradise. We have the fourth lowest taxes in all of Florida here in Sumter county. We now have almost all of the places people love to shop and none of the restaurants a passle of New York City folks pine for. We are attracting KIDS under 55 who want to live with old-er people as long as they can have a youth group all to themselves and we are the fastest growing municipality in the U.S. There must be a lot good that draws people here. I am certainly a fan.

OLD Gracie.

[CFrance]

If people find that this place is getting too big, or they can't like how it is run, or they think the "Sharon" isn't big enough, or they think the Morse family are underhanded, or they don't like Gretchen Carlson being invited to speak here,or they are fed up with no one doing anything about the seats being saved and a certain political group moving here in droves,
they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to a smaller area more conducive to their ideas of perfect.

For me and mine, we are very happy here in Lower Paradise. We have the fourth lowest taxes in all of Florida here in Sumter county. We now have almost all of the places people love to shop and none of the restaurants a passle of New York City folks pine for. We are attracting KIDS under 55 who want to live with old-er people as long as they can have a youth group all to themselves and we are the fastest growing municipality in the U.S. There must be a lot good that draws people here. I am certainly a fan.

OLD Gracie.
Or they can work to effect change. Or they can air their objections on TOTV, which is totally okay as that is one facet of a forum. Or they can move. In any event, expressing opinions is our right here in the good-ole USA.

[graciegirl]

Or they can work to effect change. Or they can air their objections on TOTV, which is totally okay as that is one facet of a forum. Or they can move. In any event, expressing opinions is our right here in the good-ole USA.


That works too. But I feel it is only fair to let people know ahead of time what this place is like, and I for one really don't want it changed from how it is run now south of 466. So some do and some don't and one's idea of perfect is no more valuable than the others.

I like what the skilled group who planned this place is doing far better than the group of village folks who want to run things with very little skill in doing so. I LOVE the deed restrictions, just the way they are. The flowers just the way they are, the fact that the amenity fee is based on cost of living, that everything is maintained and painted and cleaned beautifully just the way it is.

Folks must be drawn to this place the way it presents itself. Good. I like it too. Like many who have been here for awhile, I resent people who move here and right away try to take control and change things. Thank heaven for the CDD form of government.

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[looneycat]

That works too. But I feel it is only fair to let people know ahead of time what this place is like, and I for one really don't want it changed from how it is run now south of 466. So some do and some don't and one's idea of perfect is no more valuable than the others.

I like what the skilled group who planned this place is doing far better than the group of village folks who want to run things with very little skill in doing so. I LOVE the deed restrictions, just the way they are. The flowers just the way they are, the fact that the amenity fee is based on cost of living, that everything is maintained and painted and cleaned beautifully just the way it is.

Folks must be drawn to this place the way it presents itself. Good. I like it too. Like many who have been here for awhile, I resent people who move here and right away try to take control and change things. Thank heaven for the CDD form of government.

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amen!

[looneycat]

Or they can work to effect change. Or they can air their objections on TOTV, which is totally okay as that is one facet of a forum. Or they can move. In any event, expressing opinions is our right here in the good-ole USA.

yes they can express their opinions freely,however, this is JUST a forum and is not a place to get things done. The strange thing about forums is that they seem real and pertinent while your on them but as soon as you log off they are just 'dust in the wind'.

[George Bieniaszek]

If people find that this place is getting too big, or they can't like how it is run, or they think the "Sharon" isn't big enough, or they think the Morse family are underhanded, or they don't like Gretchen Carlson being invited to speak here,or they are fed up with no one doing anything about the seats being saved and a certain political group moving here in droves,
they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to a smaller area more conducive to their ideas of perfect.

For me and mine, we are very happy here in Lower Paradise. We have the fourth lowest taxes in all of Florida here in Sumter county. We now have almost all of the places people love to shop and none of the restaurants a passle of New York City folks pine for. We are attracting KIDS under 55 who want to live with old-er people as long as they can have a youth group all to themselves and we are the fastest growing municipality in the U.S. There must be a lot good that draws people here. I am certainly a fan.

OLD Gracie.

I agree Gracie :)

I think that there are many people that enjoy the art of complaining about everything. I believe that the term for this is called Paramania!!

[CFrance]

I agree that folks must be drawn to this place as it is now, but they cannot know every little thing until they move in and live here for a while. And I see nothing wrong with complaining about things.

Plus... how do you know that the people airing grievances on this forum are not also going through other venues to effect change? There have been results here through people working for change.

[justjim]

No place is perfect (not on this good earth) --- but for a place to retire----The Villages is way ahead of whatever is in second place. Most of us feel this way.

[JoMar]

I agree that folks must be drawn to this place as it is now, but they cannot know every little thing until they move in and live here for a while. And I see nothing wrong with complaining about things.

Plus... how do you know that the people airing grievances on this forum are not also going through other venues to effect change? There have been results here through people working for change.

What change specifically have you seen results as a result of people complaining?

[LndLocked]

What change specifically have you seen results as a result of people complaining?

Mr Developer!! ..... Tear down this wall!!

[janmcn]

What change specifically have you seen results as a result of people complaining?


Two that quickly come to mind are the traffic lights at Colony, and the wall being taken down and replaced by a gate.

[PaPaLarry]

When I see that expression "Life is Good", I think of The Villages right away!!!! :)

[manaboutown]

If people find that this place is getting too big, or they can't like how it is run, or they think the "Sharon" isn't big enough, or they think the Morse family are underhanded, or they don't like Gretchen Carlson being invited to speak here,or they are fed up with no one doing anything about the seats being saved and a certain political group moving here in droves,
they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to a smaller area more conducive to their ideas of perfect.

For me and mine, we are very happy here in Lower Paradise. We have the fourth lowest taxes in all of Florida here in Sumter county. We now have almost all of the places people love to shop and none of the restaurants a passle of New York City folks pine for. We are attracting KIDS under 55 who want to live with old-er people as long as they can have a youth group all to themselves and we are the fastest growing municipality in the U.S. There must be a lot good that draws people here. I am certainly a fan.



OLD Gracie.

Gracie expresses my feelings precisely.

BTW, for singles folks OLD is the acronym for on line dating:coolsmiley:

[Sweet Caroline]

There is a workshop session being held in Wildwood this week HOWEVER the public will not be allowed a voice. We have some representatives who are looking out for our best interests and we have seen the proposed drawings. With this directly in my back yard I am very happy that it will be build by the Villages developer.We KNOW that it will be done correctly, swiftly and will be beautiful. Will I like everything about this new project? Probably not but it sure is better than another 3 story assisted living project at my back door or an apartment complex with screaming kids and barking dogs. Thanks Gracie for your thoughts, I usually totally agree with you. I get so sick of complainers. But then some people are never happy no matter what.

[Grandfinch]

There is a workshop session being held in Wildwood this week HOWEVER the public will not be allowed a voice. We have some representatives who are looking out for our best interests and we have seen the proposed drawings. With this directly in my back yard I am very happy that it will be build by the Villages developer.We KNOW that it will be done correctly, swiftly and will be beautiful. Will I like everything about this new project? Probably not but it sure is better than another 3 story assisted living project at my back door or an apartment complex with screaming kids and barking dogs. Thanks Gracie for your thoughts, I usually totally agree with you. I get so sick of complainers. But then some people are never happy no matter what.

Yes yes yes. I am yet to see anything done in-reference to expansion that has been done in any way problematic.

[andercat]

All but the commercial CCD's will eventually be turned over to the citizens in their respective districts. That's the way it works. So if you prefer to have the developer maintain control then "if people find that they can't like how it is run,... they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to an area more conducive to their ideas of perfect."

I hope we don't lose you Gracie, but if you cannot abide by citizen participation you may need to follow your own advice.

[twoplanekid]

All but the commercial CCD's will eventually be turned over to the citizens in their respective districts. That's the way it works. So if you prefer to have the developer maintain control then "if people find that they can't like how it is run,... they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to an area more conducive to their ideas of perfect."

I hope we don't lose you Gracie, but if you cannot abide by citizen participation you may need to follow your own advice.

That is also my understanding of CCD's in the State of Florida and what will happen in The Villages.

[kstew43]

That is also my understanding of CCD's in the State of Florida and what will happen in The Villages.

I don't see that ever happening.....

As soon as the developers gives away there control, the IRS will swoop in, and the developers know that, so as long as they keep building, and the CDD keeps paying the lawyers to stall, the IRS will wait.....I assure you.... but it will happen....someday...

[Barefoot]

Or they can work to effect change. Or they can air their objections on TOTV, which is totally okay as that is one facet of a forum. Or they can move. In any event, expressing opinions is our right here in the good-ole USA.

The Villages is a thriving and popular retirement community, no-one disputes that.
Did the Developer occasionally make less than perfect decisions?
Sure he did, and most people don't dispute that either.
Many of us have a few little hot buttons that don't detract from the overall praise we have for the Developer.
And the joy we feel about living in this wonderful retirement community.
My personal hot button is the lack of adequate dog parks. I think a some of us have a few other issues, for instance, the "pretend" gates.

In my humble opinion, it is quite OK to question the way TV is being run, or how money is being spent.
The Developer and now his kids are in business to make money, not to be a charitable organization, and that is how it should be.
However issues like the Cattle Baron closing should be discussed, even it if it private enterprise and therefore none of our business.
I'm not a fan of petty complaints, but I don't want people who find TV less than perfect to be discouraged.

[JoMar]

Mr Developer!! ..... Tear down this wall!!

Ok, I agree with the wall though as I remember the lights a Colony was the result of a longer term plan dilemma, tunnel, overpass, maned etc. The lights help but the backups still exist.

[CFrance]

Ok, I agree with the wall though as I remember the lights a Colony was the result of a longer term plan dilemma, tunnel, overpass, maned etc. The lights help but the backups still exist.
The question was "What change specifically have you seen results as a result of people complaining," not did it work! :)

[tomwed]

The question was "What change specifically have you seen results as a result of people complaining," not did it work! :)
The Sharon Morse Theatre, according to their video was a result of Villagers asking for a better theatre.
Didn't people complain about how "middle school" the Savannah auditorium was? the chairs, acoustics, stage


Does that count?

[CFrance]

The Sharon Morse Theatre, according to their video was a result of Villagers asking for a better theatre.
Didn't people complain about how "middle school" the Savannah auditorium was? the chairs, acoustics, stage


Does that count?
It does for me, tomwed.:ho:

[Mikeod]

All but the commercial CCD's will eventually be turned over to the citizens in their respective districts. That's the way it works. So if you prefer to have the developer maintain control then "if people find that they can't like how it is run,... they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to an area more conducive to their ideas of perfect."

I hope we don't lose you Gracie, but if you cannot abide by citizen participation you may need to follow your own advice.
I believe the residential CDDs boards will eventually be populated by residents, but the overall governance of TV will remain in the hands of the central districts, so I do not expect residents will ever have "control" unless they buy out the developer's interest in the commercial areas.

It does make sense in that you wouldn't want a residential CDD to own the amenities and be able to determine who could use which rec center or executive course. You also wouldn't want a residential CDD to decide that common area plantings were superfluous and rip them out and replace with concrete or rock. Or to let MM paths deteriorate, or ???

[2BNTV]

If people find that this place is getting too big, or they can't like how it is run, or they think the "Sharon" isn't big enough, or they think the Morse family are underhanded, or they don't like Gretchen Carlson being invited to speak here,or they are fed up with no one doing anything about the seats being saved and a certain political group moving here in droves,
they can place their home on the market, sell it quickly, make a profit, and move to a smaller area more conducive to their ideas of perfect.

For me and mine, we are very happy here in Lower Paradise. We have the fourth lowest taxes in all of Florida here in Sumter county. We now have almost all of the places people love to shop and none of the restaurants a passle of New York City folks pine for. We are attracting KIDS under 55 who want to live with old-er people as long as they can have a youth group all to themselves and we are the fastest growing municipality in the U.S. There must be a lot good that draws people here. I am certainly a fan.

OLD Gracie.

As usual, Gracie nails it!!!!

TV is not perfect but as close as your going to get and it sure beats what's in second place, by a mile. IMHO

TV can be possibly imitated but never duplicated!!! :smiley: