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twoplanekid
04-15-2015, 12:41 PM
An Interesting article today in the other paper discusses a few Wildwood government officials concerns with the proposed building of around 800 homes by The Villages on the land north of 466A. They fear Wildwood would lose its identity and might then be governed by Village people.

Villageswimmer
04-15-2015, 12:47 PM
An Interesting article today in the other paper discusses a few Wildwood government officials concerns with the proposed building of around 800 homes by The Villages on the land north of 466A. They fear Wildwood would lose its identity and might then be governed by Village people.


That article is interesting in more ways than one. Looking forward to more details. It left me with a lot of questions.

Chi-Town
04-15-2015, 12:50 PM
Basically The Villages is a vanity address. Wildwood need not worry.

justjim
04-15-2015, 01:20 PM
Village residents live in Lady lake (several thousand) but are still Village residents. I'm not sure where the Wildwood commission was going with this except to be posturing for "more" concessions by the Developer.

If they think some other Developer can do a better job developing this property, IMHO they are way way off base. The best thing that has happen to Wildwood in recent years is The Villages.

tomwed
04-15-2015, 01:42 PM
I have a friend who lived in the adjoining town to Princeton. They had a different zip code. There house was worth $250k. Their zip code changed to Princetons zip code and the house went up $50k overnight. It's funny how perception influences value.

graciegirl
04-15-2015, 01:43 PM
Village residents live in Lady lake (several thousand) but are still Village residents. I'm not sure where the Wildwood commission was going with this except to be posturing for "more" concessions by the Developer.

If they think some other Developer can do a better job developing this property, IMHO they are way way off base. The best thing that has happen to Wildwood in recent years is The Villages.

YOU are one smart man. That is it in a nutshell, but there will be rumors and talk. Fruitland Park did the same thing, They know danged well which side their bread is buttered, or should.

It will be very good for them, indeed.

graciegirl
04-15-2015, 01:45 PM
YOU are one smart man. That is it in a nutshell, but there will be rumors and talk. Fruitland Park did the same thing, They know danged well which side their bread is buttered, or should.

It will be very good for them, indeed. Watch and see a nice municipal building go up and some new jobs added to the municipality.

villagetinker
04-15-2015, 02:01 PM
The map in the other publication did not seem to address golf cart access, which was also a discussion item in the article. This will be very interesting as Wildwood appears to want access to the rest of the city of Wildwood, and the villages tends (IMHO) to limit outside access. Then there will be the whole question of how to get golf carts across Powell and or 466a. This is going to be interesting discussion.

Villager Joyce
04-15-2015, 02:01 PM
My answer to the question posed by the OP is The Villages. As an aside, I am not in the least embarrassed to say my Church is in Wildwood.

DianeM
04-15-2015, 03:06 PM
If I had wanted to live in Wildwood, I would've bought a house in Wildwood. I wanted to live in The Villages.

graciegirl
04-15-2015, 03:13 PM
If I had wanted to live in Wildwood, I would've bought a house in Wildwood. I wanted to live in The Villages.

Read above Diane, Read above. We are all part of The Villages no matter what municipality we fall in.

Fruitland Park was going to "demand" a lot of things too, but we know that it will all be resolved because it is a huge coup to have this tax base.

NYGUY
04-15-2015, 03:19 PM
I have no doubt, the address will be The Villages. As concerns will Villagers be running Wildwood Government, they probably would be if they didn't establish voting districts as Fruitland Park did and I am sure they will do.

sunnyatlast
04-15-2015, 03:24 PM
I remember reading in the Leesburg paper the reader comments loathing the idea of TV building on the farm annexed by Fruitland Park and being built by TV now.

Readers and councilmen's anger and prejudice was (almost verbatim): "We don't want the vote in our city taken over by a huge new voting bloc of "old (gag) rich (gag) white (super gag) Re______ns (ultra-super gag)." (Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger, and we know the left-right balance is not that bad.)

But in the end they probably like the millions in increased taxes on former unused agricultural/pasture land, which probably multiplied current city budget/revenues by 10, and schools--a mega expenditure--don't need to be built and funded for over 55 age group.

I think they'll take the tax revenue :icon_wink: …… and housing and economic growth.

2BNTV
04-15-2015, 03:26 PM
Wildwood reminds of the city in Jersey that I vacationed at several times. It was a nice resort area.

I prefer "to be in TV", but that's me. :smiley:

(2BNTV) :D

Chi-Town
04-15-2015, 03:45 PM
Wildwood reminds of the city in Jersey that I vacationed at several times. It was a nice resort area.

I prefer "to be in TV", but that's me. :smiley:

(2BNTV) :D
I aaume you just mean the name. [emoji6]

DianeM
04-15-2015, 04:10 PM
I don't care what municipality I live in. The county name doesn't mean jack. The name of the town does.

redwitch
04-15-2015, 04:37 PM
Wildwood has some valid fears. TV has taken over large blocks of Sumter County and it is pretty much what the voters here want regardless of the outlying communities (think the horse racing issue a few years ago). I think Fruitland Park handled it correctly. It may be too late for wildwood to change the voting structure.

dbussone
04-15-2015, 05:12 PM
Wildwood has some valid fears. TV has taken over large blocks of Sumter County and it is pretty much what the voters here want regardless of the outlying communities (think the horse racing issue a few years ago). I think Fruitland Park handled it correctly. It may be too late for wildwood to change the voting structure.

I believe you are correct. Wildwood voted down district representation recently.

Change comes, and with change comes power shifts.

janmcn
04-15-2015, 05:14 PM
The map in the other publication did not seem to address golf cart access, which was also a discussion item in the article. This will be very interesting as Wildwood appears to want access to the rest of the city of Wildwood, and the villages tends (IMHO) to limit outside access. Then there will be the whole question of how to get golf carts across Powell and or 466a. This is going to be interesting discussion.


Just be glad you don't live in Tamerind Grove. The only golf cart egress into the new section will be a path from there to the TG mail boxes. Eight hundred new homes, possibly 1600 additional golf carts a day traveling the streets of TG.

graciegirl
04-15-2015, 05:23 PM
Just be glad you don't live in Tamerind Grove. The only golf cart egress into the new section will be a path from there to the TG mail boxes. Eight hundred new homes, possibly 1600 additional golf carts a day traveling the streets of TG.


Gloom, doom, bad fortoooon. It COULD work out. It seems the Morse planners are pretty good at what they do. I am betting they will pull some way out of the hat....

Let's just hide and watch.

Cisco Kid
04-15-2015, 05:31 PM
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fred53
04-15-2015, 05:44 PM
Basically The Villages is a vanity address. Wildwood need not worry.

if you are inclined to be a bit snobbish...there are those of us who think nothing of the address and only the quality of people around us...to those who do think it's a vanity address it's very narrow thinking on their part...

Villageswimmer
04-15-2015, 06:42 PM
My answer to the question posed by the OP is The Villages. As an aside, I am not in the least embarrassed to say my Church is in Wildwood.


Why would anyone be embarrassed?

CFrance
04-15-2015, 06:49 PM
Why would anyone be embarrassed?
See posts 10 & 16. Apparently some would.

Loudoll
04-15-2015, 07:03 PM
My answer to the question posed by the OP is The Villages. As an aside, I am not in the least embarrassed to say my Church is in Wildwood.

Come to the church in the Wild...wood...oh come to the church in the dale...

Fanman
04-15-2015, 07:22 PM
I think the mayor is afraid of losing his job. Another 1500 potential voters who will actually vote.

Tobys Dad
04-16-2015, 12:23 PM
Why would anyone care. Get over yourselves!

graciegirl
04-16-2015, 01:21 PM
There is nothing so dear to my childhood as the little brown church in the dale.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=come+to+the+church+in+the+wildwood+youtub e&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=524E39E2E29A5A4D99A6524E39E2E29A5A4D99A6

looneycat
04-16-2015, 01:29 PM
so sad to hear that the Wildwood govt thinks so little of their own abilities, tsk!

Indydealmaker
04-16-2015, 01:41 PM
I remember reading in the Leesburg paper the reader comments loathing the idea of TV building on the farm annexed by Fruitland Park and being built by TV now.

Readers and councilmen's anger and prejudice was (almost verbatim): "We don't want the vote in our city taken over by a huge new voting bloc of "old (gag) rich (gag) white (super gag) Re______ns (ultra-super gag)." (Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger, and we know the left-right balance is not that bad.)

But in the end they probably like the millions in increased taxes on former unused agricultural/pasture land, which probably multiplied current city budget/revenues by 10, and schools--a mega expenditure--don't need to be built and funded for over 55 age group.

I think they'll take the tax revenue :icon_wink: �� and housing and economic growth.
The resentment of The Villages was all on the part of the commissioners who have been screwing up Fruitland Park for decades. They knew that over 80% of Villagers vote and far less than 50% of existing Fruitland Parkers vote.

The same issue exists for the mayor in Wildwood. He comments on building standards being different, but he fails to mention that there has been little or no new buildings in Wildwood in years, other than The Villages.

May be small towns, but its the same old self-interest politics.

villagetinker
04-16-2015, 03:02 PM
It would be interesting to hear what the differences are in the building codes? Lot coverage? types of structures? Code standards? Maybe someone in the know could reply.

Villager Joyce
04-16-2015, 03:39 PM
Why would anyone be embarrassed?

Please do not take a positive statement and make it negative. I'm also not embarrassed to say I'm from the south. Where do you say you live?

manaboutown
04-16-2015, 03:44 PM
How about being known as Wildwood Flowers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewnfWoSQz3o

I believe The Seaboard Air Line's Orange Blossom Special coming down from the north stopped in Wildwood where it split into two sections, one going to Tampa/St. Petersburg, the other to Miami. Wildwood has a lot of history!

If I lived in a regular part of Wildwood, Wildwood would be my address. If I lived in an area of The Villages within Wildwood I would want The Villages as my address.

ROCKETMAN
04-17-2015, 09:57 AM
I am glad wildwood officials did not just bow down and let the developer do anything they wanted. I suspect the villages started with everything they wanted and expect there will be some changes to their initial proposal. When you make rules for developers to follow and they submit plans that are not in the guidelines, you must not just let them do as they please. This according to the mayor of wildwood.

Vladimir
04-17-2015, 12:35 PM
Wildwood reminds of the city in Jersey that I vacationed at several times. It was a nice resort area.

I prefer "to be in TV", but that's me. :smiley:

(2BNTV) :D

Its interesting how every one has a different perspective. Avalon, Stone Harbor, or Ocean City in NJ is nice...Wildwood NJ and Wildwood Fl not so much.

dewilson58
04-17-2015, 12:42 PM
There is nothing so dear to my childhood as the little brown church in the dale.

come to the church in the wildwood youtube - Bing Videos (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=come+to+the+church+in+the+wildwood+youtub e&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=524E39E2E29A5A4D99A6524E39E2E29A5A4D99A6)

Do you mean Vale (not Dale) ???

Little Brown Church in the Vale in Iowa???

sunnyatlast
04-17-2015, 02:34 PM
I am glad wildwood officials did not just bow down and let the developer do anything they wanted. I suspect the villages started with everything they wanted and expect there will be some changes to their initial proposal. When you make rules for developers to follow and they submit plans that are not in the guidelines, you must not just let them do as they please. This according to the mayor of wildwood.

I'm pretty sure the whole reason for these meetings and plans/drawings submissions is so that TV developers representatives come to Wildwood to "bow down" and ask permission in many, many steps of the submission and approval process over months and years, not the other way around.

However, regarding this statement by the mayor….

"He said he is fearful that Wildwood would lose its identity after The Villages moves in. He said he believes the new residents would have no interest in identifying themselves as Wildwood residents.
“My biggest issue is that it doesn’t meet the current zoning standards,” Wolf said.

….I think if he wants to be taken seriously about "meeting current standards" of construction/zoning, it needs to be remembered that the whole side of Wildwood where TV is going toward on Hwy. 44 is flanked on all sides by tired mobile home parks, some of which lean toward dilapidated. I doubt TV would build anything remotely close to looking like that.

joldnol
04-17-2015, 02:45 PM
what is it with the prejudice against Wildwood? Yes, there are impoverished people living in it but news flash there are impoverished people living in Lady Lake too.

vette
04-17-2015, 03:10 PM
At this time there's no need to go west of Powell and the we already built 2 tunnels under 466-A. One more is no biggie. However Personally I would appreciate golf cart access to St. Vincent de Paul church on the west side of CR 462 (Powell) across from Tamarind Grove

vette
04-17-2015, 03:18 PM
Village :police:

billethkid
04-17-2015, 03:29 PM
why does nobody care whether they live in Lady Lake or TV?
Why does nobody care whether they live in Fruitland Park or TV?
Etc?

Because there is for some reason a very pregudiced feeling by many people about Wildwood. Mainly folks who don't know any more about Wildwood than they do Lady Lake or Fruitland. And unfortunately parrot the bad things they have heard....not experienced or lived.

How about focusing on the 98% of the people of Wildwood that are just like the rest of us. Just good people being overlooked by the closed mentality of today that likes to dwell on the bad, the negative, the isolated case, the sensational (true or false), etc.

Wildwood is not so different from places a lot of residents of TV were born and grew up.

Get the nose out of the air and be a good neighbor.

Some natives of Wildwood may have as much to complain about TV residents encroaching on their once quaint and quiet Small Town, FL.

graciegirl
04-17-2015, 03:53 PM
why does nobody care whether they live in Lady Lake or TV?
Why does nobody care whether they live in Fruitland Park or TV?
Etc?

Because there is for some reason a very pregudiced feeling by many people about Wildwood. Mainly folks who don't know any more about Wildwood than they do Lady Lake or Fruitland. And unfortunately parrot the bad things they have heard....not experienced or lived.

How about focusing on the 98% of the people of Wildwood that are just like the rest of us. Just good people being overlooked by the closed mentality of today that likes to dwell on the bad, the negative, the isolated case, the sensational (true or false), etc.

Wildwood is not so different from places a lot of residents of TV were born and grew up.

Get the nose out of the air and be a good neighbor.

Some natives of Wildwood may have as much to complain about TV residents encroaching on their once quaint and quiet Small Town, FL.

If it weren't for posts like yours I swear I would lose faith in the world.

graciegirl
04-17-2015, 03:57 PM
what is it with the prejudice against Wildwood? Yes, there are impoverished people living in it but news flash there are impoverished people living in Lady Lake too.


It is called class prejudice. Some people have it against those who have more or less money. It is wrong, either way.

People are people.

applesoffh
04-17-2015, 04:08 PM
I think the mayor is afraid of losing his job. Another 1500 potential voters who will actually vote.

I'm confused. People who live in TV, but within Wildwood, or Fruitland Park for that matter, will vote for Mayors in towns that will not govern them? Am I understanding this correctly? If so, no wonder our neighbors may be more than a little skeptical of TV expansion.

Could someone please explain this to me? Thanks!

sunnyatlast
04-17-2015, 04:49 PM
why does nobody care whether they live in Lady Lake or TV?
Why does nobody care whether they live in Fruitland Park or TV?
Etc?

Because there is for some reason a very pregudiced feeling by many people about Wildwood. Mainly folks who don't know any more about Wildwood than they do Lady Lake or Fruitland. And unfortunately parrot the bad things they have heard....not experienced or lived.

How about focusing on the 98% of the people of Wildwood that are just like the rest of us. Just good people being overlooked by the closed mentality of today that likes to dwell on the bad, the negative, the isolated case, the sensational (true or false), etc.

Wildwood is not so different from places a lot of residents of TV were born and grew up.

Get the nose out of the air and be a good neighbor.

Some natives of Wildwood may have as much to complain about TV residents encroaching on their once quaint and quiet Small Town, FL.

Thank you.

It's not too valid when people coming from major metro areas with highest crime rates in the country, i.e. MPLS, Orlando, St. Louis, Washington, LA, NYC…….worry about little Wildwood, FL when they've been riding the subways thru the Bronx, Harlem, Chicago skid row etc. for decades but talk about "The City" (genuflect here) like it's nirvana.