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mx0685051
07-17-2008, 12:29 PM
Does anyone know of a Psychic by the name of Gloria or Glo in The Villages? I have heard of people visiting her but they are unable to remember her last name. Or does anyone know of a psychic that is legit in the area? Any info would be helpful, thank you. ???

Donna
07-17-2008, 12:30 PM
What determines if a Psychic is legit??

mx0685051
07-17-2008, 12:49 PM
Well, if people have had experiences with them that they believed were true and helpful. Things that no one else could possibly know......?

nONIE
07-17-2008, 12:50 PM
I dont know what determines if a psychic is legit, I usually judge them by their abilities to know personal things about me after the fact. Getting recommendations from others who have seen a psychic and was impressed is usually what influences me.

I can honestly recommend Matthew and Rev. Cassidy in Cassadaga FL. as being incredibly intuitive, and I would definitely go back to them. Psychics are certainly not cheap so you want to make sure you are not flushing your $ down the toilet!

Cassadaga is about a 1-2 hour trip but it is definitely worth the trip.

renielarson
07-17-2008, 12:53 PM
A Reverend Gloria was recommended to me. She works out of her home here in The Villages and is said to be very good. I haven't gone to her yet but saved her number just in case. If you want her phone number, pm me and I will give it to you.

Donna
07-17-2008, 01:00 PM
Noni... :agree:..If a psychic sees things from my past, that only I know......

There are lots of fakes out there, very convincing, but FAKE!! Thought this article would be helpful to some, since not many people know about cold readings..


Cold reading is a technique often used by mentalists and fraudulent fortune tellers, psychics, and mediums to determine details about another person in order to convince them that the reader knows much more about a subject than he or she actually does.

Even without prior knowledge of a person, a practiced cold reader can still quickly obtain a great deal of information about the subject by carefully analyzing the person's body language, clothing or fashion, hairstyle, gender, sexual orientation, religion, race or ethnicity, level of education, manner of speech, place of origin, etc.

Cold readers commonly employ high probability guesses about the subject, quickly picking up on signals from their subjects as to whether their guesses are in the right direction or not, and then emphasizing and reinforcing any chance connections the subjects acknowledge while quickly moving on from missed guesses.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading

chelsea24
07-17-2008, 02:31 PM
I believe there are true psychics out there. But I also know there are a lot of shams and they make it hard for the truly gifted ones.

The most important thing to stay away from is the "psychic" or person that says that they can fix your problems. They say they will pray for you or hold a meditation meeting for you. These people will start draining your money and have you coming back again and again. They prey on your fears. Don't ever leave a picture or a piece of jewelry behind with them. Don't let them talk you into coming back for any reason. This is just the start of what a big scam can be.

Now, as I said in the beginning, I do believe in true psychics. They usually don't advertise, except for a business card upon request. They do not and do not have to solicit business. Word of mouth is enough.

I also believe we all have psychic abilities, it just depends on how much we hone them through study and meditation. I, for one, am not a Sylvia Brown fan at all. This woman has an act down and upon studying her, you'll find it easy to see through it. That's just my opinion, others love her.

I do like Jon Edward and would love to see him in person. Oh, yes, there have been stories about him too, but I'd like to judge for myself. Plus, he's really really cute! LOL :joke:

renielarson
07-17-2008, 02:49 PM
I travelled 5 hours to see Jon Edward in person. He's amazing and :agree: a very good looking fella.

Ooper
07-17-2008, 03:40 PM
a legit psychic??? isn't that an oxymoron?... like military intelligence

Russ_Boston
07-17-2008, 05:09 PM
There is a 1 million dollar prize for ANYONE who can prove paranormal events under controlled conditions. Check it out here: http://www.randi.org/joom/challenge-info.html

To date no one has been able to collect the money.

If you want to go to a psychic, be my guest. Heck it might even be enjoyable and soothing to you but please never use the word legit when talking about these people. They are good people readers and know how to weave a story that they know you want to hear. I'm sure Rev. Gloria could use a cool million!

The Great Fumar
07-17-2008, 08:33 PM
NOW LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT........YOU RECOMMEND A PHYSIC TO SOMEONE AND SHE IS 1 TO 2 HOURS AWAY....WITH GAS AT 4.25 A GAL. AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT FLUSHING MONEY DOWN THE TOILET...........

I MUST HAVE MISSED SOMETHING SOMEWHERE

CLARA-VOI-ENT FUMAR

Donna
07-17-2008, 09:23 PM
Russ & Fumar..

I must disagree on this one..There are psychics that work with the police, and have found missing children, people buried alive, etc..

Those are FACTS!!..I agree there are a multitude of quacks out there, but there are many gifted people as well...

Rokinronda
07-17-2008, 10:01 PM
My 2 cents: When I turned 16, I went with friends to a well known psychic at Crescent Park, in Riverside, R.I.. This woman pretty much summed up my life. She said I would meet my husband within 6 months (remember I'm 16!!) , that we would marry and wait a few years to have 2 children, a girl and then a few years later a boy. It would be a long happy marriage, with ups and downs, but we would always stay together. So far that lady nailed it. Now if I live to 93, she gets a 100%!!! I went to 1 other and she was so vague and fake. Haven't spent another dime on it since. I really liked the 1st one, so why try again!!

Donna
07-17-2008, 10:05 PM
I too had a similar experience..There was a psychic at a party I was at, when I was about 20..

She walked up to me and told me I would have 9 children..I told her I very much doubted that, I would certainly hope to have children but not 9...

When I married Tommy (Donna Marie's dad) he had 8 children..OMG.. :yikes:

Then came Donna Marie, guess I have 9 children!!! Ya think she was right????

Hyacinth Bucket
07-17-2008, 10:52 PM
A dear friend of mine husband died quite suddenly. She found him in his favorite chair. He was a young man.

She felt that she was cheated out of saying good by to him, and found a psychic in Hawaii who she called. (I do not know how she found this person.) She called the psychic who informed her not to say anything but just listen.

The psychic did not want her to say anything because she wanted no audible clues from my friend.

My friend was shocked about the accuracy of what she was told. It also made her feel extraordinarily good. She felt her husband was still with her and watching over her.

HB

Sidney Lanier
07-17-2008, 11:04 PM
I tend to be pragmatic about things like this, and I'm responding to the comment made by Nonie earlier in this thread: "Psychics are certainly not cheap so you want to make sure you are not flushing your $ down the toilet!"

I had a cousin (now deceased) whose best friend was a psychic. She absolutely and categorically never accept payment or a gift for her work, feeling that it's a gift that she's been given which has nothing to do with earning a livelihood. She has been called on by police and others, and she works strictly, for lack of a better way to put it, as a volunteer within the community. In other words--and in her words--she is not an entertainer. And she is not always successful, but she is often enough. We last saw her at the repast following my cousin's funeral and she told us this story (when we asked):

She was called in by the very distraught parents of a young suicide (person in late 20s still living with parents) who left no note or explanation. She spent time with them and wandering through their home, then asked to spend some time in the young person's room. Following this, she apologetically sat down with the parents and explained that she could sense nothing at all--other than a vague something about a penguin, which appeared to have no relevance to anything. Weeks later, the parents, in going through everything in their child's room, found the suicide note in a book that happened to be a favorite of their child's, published by Random House as part of their Penguin Book series.

Go figure; and who am I to judge?

Russ_Boston
07-18-2008, 12:20 AM
I didn't mean to indicate that they aren't talented. There have been some famous success cases. But I attribute it more to the same talent that a very good detective would have. Kinda of sixth sense if you will but more likely the ability to put a puzzle together from limited information. I just don't attribute it to any sort of 'future' telling or mind reading.

9 children? Are you sure she didn't just swap your birth control pill for some pez candy?

chelsea24
07-18-2008, 03:05 AM
At the age of 24 a palm reader/psychic read my palm and said I would never marry the man I'm with. She said I would marry the love of my life at age 52. Now, at 24, 52 sounds ancient! Plus I was getting married in 3 weeks. I told my girlfriends she was crazy and not to go to her. So here's what happened. . .

I was engaged at 24 and getting married in 3 weeks. We had the dresses, showers, invitations out, room the whole ball of wax. In the interim, my fiancee's mother started a huge fight with my family and I called off the wedding.

Fast forward. I married vetman (the love of my life) on my 52nd birthday. Not planned that way on purpose, but because we were on a cruise and the only day the ship was in an American port was on my 52nd birthday. I didn't even realize it until I woke up that morning, thinking wow, I'm really getting married today and as I looked up on the dresser in the cabin, there was a birthday card with the necklace that matched my ring, that read "Happy Birthday to My Wife."

Boing!!!!! My mind went racing back to that palm reader. I'm still amazed and sorry that I told everyone she was nuts! LOL :o

Barefoot
07-18-2008, 03:13 AM
I can honestly recommend Matthew and Rev. Cassidy in Cassadaga FL. as being incredibly intuitive, and I would definitely go back to them.

I would also recommend Matthew in Cassadega. He is definitely gifted, and I had a remarkable reading with him.

LI SNOWBIRD
11-03-2012, 05:11 PM
I would also recommend Matthew in Cassadega. He is definitely gifted, and I had a remarkable reading with him.

We took the 1 1/2 hour driver to this small town of psychics today. The town is small but kinda cute. There is a wonderful hotel that serves goof Italian food in their restaurant. The hotel also offers psychic readings, Rikki, aura readings, and spiritual guidance etc. Go to the welcome building across the street from the hotel. They have a board showing which psycics are reading that day and have a phone to call them. The psychics live in this little berg and have signs outside their homes stating what services they provide.We didn't have a reading as we are waiting for my brother and my my sister-in-law to come and visit with us and all of us go and have a reading,
The rate for a reading is $55 for 1/ hour and $100 for an hour.
We enjoyed the drive and being out of the "bubble". It is a cute town if you believe or not.
PS: There was one store offering a mini $1 reading. This was basically picking a card from a pile and they would explain what it meant AND you got to keep the card.
I bought 2 Hematite rings and 2 Mugglestones. all in all a nice day out

Mack184
11-03-2012, 06:51 PM
Years ago one of the radio stations I worked at had a psychic named Phil who did a show every evening from 7-8pm. The standing joke when you saw him in the hallway was to say.."Hi Phil..How am I?"

Vinny
11-03-2012, 07:36 PM
Psychic and legit do not belong in the same sentence. They are con artist but you are free to waste your money anyway you want. I used to be a professional magician and learned all the methods that physics use. There are even books about it. My sister was recruited by the Psychic Network and they provided training on how to obtain info from people without them realizing it. Just like magicians do using psychology and misdirection, you are left only remembering what you were manipulated to remember. Every hears what they want to hear from a psychic or whatever will end up with you paying more.

Richard1366
11-03-2012, 10:39 PM
Don't know about psychics, but I can give you the address of the tooth fairy....for a fee!

Barefoot
11-04-2012, 12:04 AM
Psychic and legit do not belong in the same sentence. They are con artist but you are free to waste your money anyway you want. I used to be a professional magician and learned all the methods that physics use. There are even books about it. My sister was recruited by the Psychic Network and they provided training on how to obtain info from people without them realizing it. Just like magicians do using psychology and misdirection, you are left only remembering what you were manipulated to remember. Every hears what they want to hear from a psychic or whatever will end up with you paying more.

There are con artists in every profession, whether it is politicians or car salesmen or real estate agents or television preachers or CEOs of corporations. But there are also Mediums that are the real deal. In my humble opinion.

KEVIN & JOSIE
11-04-2012, 01:09 AM
There are con artists in every profession, whether it is politicians or car salesmen or real estate agents or television preachers or CEOs of corporations. But there are also Mediums that are the real deal. In my humble opinion.

:agree:

senior citizen
11-04-2012, 06:20 AM
Psychic and legit do not belong in the same sentence. They are con artist but you are free to waste your money anyway you want. I used to be a professional magician and learned all the methods that physics use. There are even books about it. My sister was recruited by the Psychic Network and they provided training on how to obtain info from people without them realizing it. Just like magicians do using psychology and misdirection, you are left only remembering what you were manipulated to remember. Every hears what they want to hear from a psychic or whatever will end up with you paying more.

The "Psychic Network" uses astrology readings for a particular sign, after they ask you your birthdate.

Yes, there are charlatans in every profession. You name it, they are there.

However, there are also those, who don't seek the limelight, who do have natural gifts of precognition and clairvoyancy.

clairvoyant

Definition

clair·voy·ant
[ kler vóy ənt (http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/Search?q=define+clairvoyant&Requester=PronunciationDTP&form=DTPDIO) ]



clair·voy·antsPlural


NOUN


1.
psychic person: somebody who is able to perceive things that are usually beyond the range of human senses



[ Late 17th century. < French (see clairvoyance) ]

clair·voy·ant ADJECTIVE

clair·voy·ant·ly ADVERB

Thesaurus

clair·voy·ance

  noun

1. the supernatural power of seeing objects or actions removed in space or time from natural viewing.

2. quick, intuitive knowledge of things and people; sagacity.

Clairvoyance :From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





The term clairvoyance (from French clair meaning "clear" and voyance meaning "vision") is used to refer to the ability to gain information about an object, person, location or physical event through means other than the known human senses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense),[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#cite_note-1) a form of extra-sensory perception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-sensory_perception). A person said to have the ability of clairvoyance is referred to as a clairvoyant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#) ("one who sees clearly").




Does anyone remember the song , “On a clear day, you can see forever..........and forevermore”..........


On a clear day, rise and look around you and you'll see who you are
On a clear day, how it will astound you that a glow of your being, outshines every star
You'll feel part of Ev'ry mountain, sea, and shore You can hear from far and near A world you've never heard before
And on a clear day, on that clear day You can see forever, oh how it will astound you
That the glow of your being outshines any star
And on that clear day , on that clear day .................You can see forever and ever and ever and evermore........

Golfingnut
11-04-2012, 06:56 AM
Superstitious witchcraft.

George Bieniaszek
11-04-2012, 07:41 AM
If I ever read a story that a Psychic, or fortune teller, or clairvoyant, won POWERBALL, then I will become a believer :)

Taltarzac725
11-04-2012, 07:54 AM
Scientists put psychic's paranormal claims to the test | Science | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/may/12/psychic-claims-james-randi-paranormal)

And one from a few days ago @ Halloween 2012. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/oct/31/halloween-challenge-psychics-scientific-trial?newsfeed=true

There does seem to be a problem though here with the fact that when you put a genuine psychic into such controlled environments you throw this person off her game quite a bit. http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/science-questions/quantum-suicide2.htm

I do believe there are real psychics but they are probably one in a thousand among the phony ones. The genuine ones as another poster pointed out probably do not need to advertise their abilities.

Golfingnut
11-04-2012, 07:59 AM
Black Cats, Broken Mirror, stepping on a crack, walking under a ladder, and on and on and on. We humans seem to need something to blame it on when anything goes wrong. We have went from multiple gods down to one supreme ruler in most of our religions and that is a step in the right direction. But as long as we have been out of the cave, we still have a long way to go.

senior citizen
11-04-2012, 08:00 AM
If I ever read a story that a Psychic, or fortune teller, or clairvoyant, won POWERBALL, then I will become a believer :)

Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.......but good luck.

For those who have experienced it, basically it is just a feeling that something is going to transpire........**

Now, if the so called "psychic" acted on her "feeling".....she'd still have to choose the correct numbers..........I don't think that would happen.

This is the misconception out there.

Again, there are charlatans in every walk of life and every profession.

**For what it's worth.........and since you are a nice fellow....I'll tell you a story. The day before 911, full day before, I woke up in the middle of the night from the most frightening dream I'd ever had.

To be brief here......I saw a huge face/head of a man in a black turban....with a black beard.
Yes, a black turban. I saw an airplane crash. Then I woke up.

Now, 10 days later we were supposed to fly to our son's wedding in Colorado out of Albany, New York to Denver (via Chicago as the layover).

The next morning, while in the kitchen "listening to Good Morning America" I saw the planes crash into the tower.......and the rest is history.

We did do the trip..........but it was "surreal". The airports were empty.
The few, like us, were terrified. The plane's staff and crew were terrified.

What do you make of my dream? That was a premonition.
It happens. You can't turn it on. It just happens.

I don't believe in the psychics who know everything.
What I'm talking about is INTUITION AND precognition.

That other guy who calls it witchcraft doesn't know what he's talking about, unfortunately...........my husband does not dream either.
The few times he's had a dream in our 48 years of marriage I can count on half of my right hand fingers. Women do dream more and feel more.

Golfingnut
11-04-2012, 09:52 AM
Superstitious mumbo gumbo has been around since the beginning of time. It is all just silly childish fear of the explainable that makes us search for an answer. Also, I am a christian, so I will put my faith in god and not a dream or any other silly coincidence.
Please use your head before your fear to come to a conclusion on anything.

Patty55
11-04-2012, 10:14 AM
Superstitious mumbo gumbo has been around since the beginning of time. It is all just silly childish fear of the explainable that makes us search for an answer. Also, I am a christian, so I will put my faith in god and not a dream or any other silly coincidence.
Please use your head before your fear to come to a conclusion on anything.

Am I the only one seeing the absurdity of this statement?:a20:

Barefoot
11-04-2012, 11:08 AM
Superstitious mumbo gumbo has been around since the beginning of time. It is all just silly childish fear of the explainable that makes us search for an answer. Also, I am a christian, so I will put my faith in god and not a dream or any other silly coincidence.
Please use your head before your fear to come to a conclusion on anything.

Am I the only one seeing the absurdity of this statement?:a20:

I agree with Golfingnut that it is silly childish fear that makes some of us afraid of the idea of Psychics, Mediums, and Clairvoyants.

Patty55
11-04-2012, 11:20 AM
I'm so glad you clarified that, BARE, I guess it's all in the interpretation. I took it to mean he only believed in organized mumbo-jumbo, superstition that has been around since the start of time.

DOPEY ME

Golfingnut
11-04-2012, 11:22 AM
Am I the only one seeing the absurdity of this statement?:a20:

I see your point: To many folks, believing in GOD is no different than believing in Witchcraft and other things like we are discussing here. You may be right, but, I also need something to believe in and I chose the more established.

Patty55
11-04-2012, 11:45 AM
I don't go as far as to classify all abilities to "Witchcraft". I do believe that there are people who have abilities, whether it be intuitive or just being able to read situations and people.

I also believe there is good and bad in everything. Take someone like Theresa Caputo, the LI Medium. I don't know if what she does is real or not, but it does seem to lighten people's load.

I think that anything that helps give people peace is good, be it a preacher, a psychic or a shrink.

I think that anyone who takes advantage of another person's pain to make money is bad, be it a preacher, psychic or shrink.

I think when people have abilities, it is a gift from God.

graciegirl
11-04-2012, 11:55 AM
I don't go as far as to classify all abilities to "Witchcraft". I do believe that there are people who have abilities, whether it be intuitive or just being able to read situations and people.

I also believe there is good and bad in everything. Take someone like Theresa Caputo, the LI Medium. I don't know if what she does is real or not, but it does seem to lighten people's load.

I think that anything that helps give people peace is good, be it a preacher, a psychic or a shrink.

I think that anyone who takes advantage of another person's pain to make money is bad, be it a preacher, psychic or shrink.

I think when people have abilities, it is a gift from God.


I was gonna say something just like that but you said it much better than I could've..

Patty55
11-04-2012, 12:48 PM
I was gonna say something just like that but you said it much better than I could've..

Yes, I knew that because HHeellllooo, I'm PSYCHIC.:girlneener:

Challenger
11-04-2012, 12:48 PM
Psychic and legit do not belong in the same sentence. They are con artist but you are free to waste your money anyway you want. I used to be a professional magician and learned all the methods that physics use. There are even books about it. My sister was recruited by the Psychic Network and they provided training on how to obtain info from people without them realizing it. Just like magicians do using psychology and misdirection, you are left only remembering what you were manipulated to remember. Every hears what they want to hear from a psychic or whatever will end up with you paying more.

Agreed- fools and their funds are early parted.

Patty55
11-04-2012, 12:51 PM
Agreed- fools and their funds are early parted.

How about the ones that don't charge the fools?

graciegirl
11-04-2012, 02:25 PM
How about the ones that don't charge the fools?


Patty, remind me always to stay on your good side. :a20:

Taltarzac725
11-04-2012, 02:28 PM
Am I the only one seeing the absurdity of this statement?:a20:

Believe that they should make certain readings mandatory at the US high school level. Age of Enlightment books like Candide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

Patty55
11-04-2012, 02:36 PM
Believe that they should make certain readings mandatory at the US high school level. Age of Enlightment books like Candide Age of Enlightenment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment)

I think they are still working on literacy.

Taltarzac725
11-04-2012, 02:39 PM
I think they are still working on literacy.

Some areas yes. My high school teacher Mrs. Mitchell turned me on to books like Anna Karenina when I was 16. I was just interested in Edgar Rice Burroughs' works and other such adventure stories up to then.

Still believe that education can work wonders if you can get people to read and learn to think critically.

CaliforniaGirl
11-04-2012, 02:47 PM
Agreed- fools and their funds are early parted.

True story...back in 1999 I decided to give myself a perm (remember those days?) and was bored waiting for my hair to finish "cooking", so I called a psychic hotline - purely for entertainment, of course. The woman who answered proceeded to tell me how someone I was formerly involved with was now a changed person and was the person I was meant to be with. So, because a faceless phony psychic said so - and because he had been really, really nice to my mother - I remarried my ex-husband. Before the charge even appeared on my phone bill, I knew I had made a huge mistake.

I only get salon perms now.

Taltarzac725
11-04-2012, 04:06 PM
True story...back in 1999 I decided to give myself a perm (remember those days?) and was bored waiting for my hair to finish "cooking", so I called a psychic hotline - purely for entertainment, of course. The woman who answered proceeded to tell me how someone I was formerly involved with was now a changed person and was the person I was meant to be with. So, because a faceless phony psychic said so - and because he had been really, really nice to my mother - I remarried my ex-husband. Before the charge even appeared on my phone bill, I knew I had made a huge mistake.

I only get salon perms now.

I tried a perm around 1979 also felt that this was a bad mistake. Never believed much in psychics you see on TV or any who peddle their wares any other way. The real ones probably see their abilities as both a curse and a gift. I sure would not want to be hearing the voices of dead people. Sounds like a one way ticket to Belleview.

Barefoot
11-04-2012, 04:13 PM
I see your point: To many folks, believing in GOD is no different than believing in Witchcraft and other things like we are discussing here. You may be right, but, I also need something to believe in and I chose the more established.

It's not an either/or. You can believe in God and also believe that some people are gifted with Psychic abilities. :pray:

Golfingnut
11-04-2012, 04:42 PM
It's not an either/or. You can believe in God and also believe that some people are gifted with Psychic abilities. :pray:

You may be right about some of the more liberal denominations, but I believe you can group all the spooky weird stuff like witches and psychics and cults, all into one package that all border on demonic practices.

Patty55
11-04-2012, 04:43 PM
I tried a perm around 1979 also felt that this was a bad mistake. Never believed much in psychics you see on TV or any who peddle their wares any other way. The real ones probably see their abilities as both a curse and a gift. I sure would not want to be hearing the voices of dead people. Sounds like a one way ticket to Belleview.

Yeah, those home perms were not a good thing, mine frizzed and turned red, I looked like Ronald McDonald's sister.

I don't know anyone who views this as a curse, you don't hear voices of dead people unless you are a medium and even then you can control it.

As far as the psychic thing, you can fine tune it, the more you work at it the more accurate you get.

Barefoot
11-04-2012, 04:51 PM
You may be right about some of the more liberal denominations, but I believe you can group all the spooky weird stuff like witches and psychics and cults, all into one package that all border on demonic practices.

Demonic practices? I guess that was the thinking in 1692 at the Salem Witchcraft Trials. Thankfully, today we're more enlightened.

In awe of TV
11-04-2012, 04:58 PM
I recently went to a Medium here in ATL. I was very skeptical and didn't know what to expect. Well let me tell you she blew my socks off! She knew nothing about me, even my name. I walked out of there shaking. You can't tell me they are all fake or don't have the power because she certainly did.

Patty55
11-04-2012, 05:05 PM
Demonic practices? I guess that was the thinking in 1692 at the Salem Witchcraft Trials. Thankfully today we're more enlightened.

I have always thought that Salem crowd was way too liberal.

graciegirl
11-04-2012, 06:56 PM
I have always thought that Salem crowd was way too liberal.

Patty. Patty. Patty. :a20:

Taltarzac725
11-04-2012, 06:58 PM
The Terror of History: The Witch Hunt in Early Modern Europe, UCLA - YouTube

This is one of the more interesting Great Courses. It goes into the sociological/political/historical reasons for the persecution of witches.

Taltarzac725
11-04-2012, 06:59 PM
The Terror of History: The Witch Hunt in Early Modern Europe, UCLA - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOQND4fVF_w)

This is one of the more interesting Great Courses. It goes into the sociological/political/historical reasons for the persecution of witches.

Here is the 50 minute or so YouTube. It is by UCLA Professor Teofilo Ruiz. You do have to get used to his thick Spanish accent.

Patty55
11-04-2012, 07:21 PM
Whoa, only 40 minutes till the LI Medium and I am still sacrificing a dead chicken.

Cantwaittoarrive
11-04-2012, 07:28 PM
You may be right about some of the more liberal denominations, but I believe you can group all the spooky weird stuff like witches and psychics and cults, all into one package that all border on demonic practices.

In the Bible didn't prophets have dreams and (psychic) visions from God? Who's to judge where gifts come from?

Golfingnut
11-05-2012, 03:51 AM
Demonic practices? I guess that was the thinking in 1692 at the Salem Witchcraft Trials. Thankfully, today we're more enlightened.

I guess I see so many poor souls that struggle with reality and especially the young that push these kind of things to the point of violence. Its like how some say the jump from marijuana to heroin is a short distance, I feel the same about going from a Ouija board to animal sacrifice. If you play with fire you may get burned. I see these activities fun, but silly, however, some get bug eyed entranced and that is where I see the danger. I love magic, but I keep my focus on trying to figure out how the TRICK is done rather than believing it is supernatural. So, go, have fun, but don't get so drawn in that you turn over your bank account or slip away from reality because these are all parlor tricks be they the carnival crystal ball reader or a nationally famous medium.

Watch the eyes of a child when grandpa pulls a quarter out of their ear. I see those same eyes when a more sophisticated trick is pulled on an adult. Please understand, I say enjoy, but be cautious and sensible with how you process the information or vision.

senior citizen
11-05-2012, 06:08 AM
Demonic practices? I guess that was the thinking in 1692 at the Salem Witchcraft Trials. Thankfully, today we're more enlightened.

Thank God. Thanks Barefoot.

Has anyone ever been to Salem, Massachusetts?
We've seen the courtroom and the little skinny narrow cells they kept them in.......unbelievably cruel........visited the cemetery, etc.

Lack of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

Supposedly, the "rye flour" had developed a mold which made the young girls hallucinate.

senior citizen
11-05-2012, 06:26 AM
I see your point: To many folks, believing in GOD is no different than believing in Witchcraft and other things like we are discussing here. You may be right, but, I also need something to believe in and I chose the more established.

Belief in God has nothing at all to do with having premonitions.

Belief in God has nothing at all to do with "sensing" a beloved one who has just departed.....such as a dream visitation.

I've always believed in God. Read some of the books out there by folks who have died and "come back".......all their loved ones were waiting on the other side.

Most of my "dreams" have been peaceful, calm and comforting.....just a "goodbye" type of visitation.........actually all of them, except for ONE.

This was my best "adult friend" who passed too soon at age 50 after a lung biopsy in Albany New York broke some of her ribs....causing her to slowly hemmoraghe.........through the entire Christmas season the couging of her insterstitial fibrocystic lung disease got progressively worse........long story short, in early February, after carrying around two oxygen tanks.........she ended up in our hospital here in town.......they were trying to get a lung transplant for her.....to no avail. She had two children still in school............we were all gathered around her when the worst case scenario happened and they had to intubate her and put her into an induced coma in the I.C.U..........hoping against hope for a heart /lung.........all of our neighborhood was up there, including my daughter who drove down. I gave her husband, who is non religious, a rosary for her ........he entwined it in her hands as we all stood around, helpless.............but there was no happy ending. Still in a coma.

The grief counselors spoke to the family and the children.........

Next morning...........while still in bed......to my right side I STRONGLY FELT A MASS OF ENERGY WHICH SEEMED ANGRY......nothing like my ethereal peaceful visits from friends and family after their passings.

I sat up straight. It was a bit frightening, to say the least. Long story, just a mass of colored angry energy....which then departed.

THEN THE PHONE RANG...........my friend's daughter called to tell me her mom had just died.......they had pulled the plug, so to speak.

She had been intubated. Now she was GONE. Being she was a feisty little lady who LOVED LIFE and never wanted to go for that biopsy in the first place......but had a severe coughing fit while in Austria with hubby on business.........she didn't want to depart the earth as she still had a son in high school and a daughter as a freshman in college.........so yes, she was ANGRY.....not supposed to be dead.

The nurses had told me in I.C.U. that she had received PREDNISONE plus an EXPERIMENTAL DRUG.......they said, "Sometimes the prednisone makes the condition WORSE AND THEY BLEED OUT".
She literally drowned in her own blood.

The way I see it, she should still be alive. We all say, had she not gone for that biopsy in Albany N.Y.......yes, she'd be having the chronic cough but her own grandmother lived to age 95 with the same lung disease, supposedly caused by pigeons in Hungary where they were born and lived before coming to West Liberty Ohio after the Revolution in 1956.

Trust me. If I am a witch, than I'd like to be known as a good witch.

p.s.
An interesting side note........in the old days, when the peasants were poor and illiterate, they looked up to their PRIESTS......who had all the education. Once the peasants evolved and were educated, they began to think for themselves and not to totally follow like sheep. You know what you know. My pet peeve is doubting Thomases....without any real experience one way or the other.

Priest is actually just another word for "teacher".

My own husband was always a doubting Thomas as he had no frame of reference for the supernatural if you wish to call it that..........

He's now a believer. Better late than never.

Golfingnut
11-05-2012, 07:52 AM
The Meaning of Superstitions (http://www.mythany.com/paranormal/do-you-believe-or-do-you-laugh.html)

2newyorkers
04-15-2013, 06:04 PM
Went to a seance in Cassadaga. They used a tip table. It was so much fun.

buggyone
04-15-2013, 06:16 PM
a legit psychic??? isn't that an oxymoron?... like military intelligence

...or jumbo shrimp?

PattyPan1
04-15-2013, 07:09 PM
Hi, Can you forward me the phone number too.

Thanks.



I travelled 5 hours to see Jon Edward in person. He's amazing and :agree: a very good looking fella.

Patty55
04-15-2013, 08:10 PM
I know people who had readings by John Edwards, this was a while ago. They said there was a long waiting list, was expensive, but was totally amazing.

mac9
04-15-2013, 08:15 PM
Went to a seance in Cassadaga. They used a tip table. It was so much fun.

What's a tip table?

Gulfhills
04-15-2013, 10:20 PM
I see your point: To many folks, believing in GOD is no different than believing in Witchcraft and other things like we are discussing here. You may be right, but, I also need something to believe in and I chose the more established.

:BigApplause:

JourneyOfLife
04-16-2013, 06:58 AM
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Psychics are certainly not cheap so you want to make sure you are not flushing your $ down the toilet!

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Absolutely! No one would want to be taken by a charlatan. :jester:

Quixote
04-18-2013, 03:29 AM
Absolutely! No one would want to be taken by a charlatan. :jester:

I had posted this on another thread and am adding something that seems relevant.

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For what it's worth, the best friend of a cousin of mine is a psychic. Her explanation for this is what I emphasized above in part of the quoted comments [some folks are just more in tune with things spiritual or unseen…]. This woman has been called on by her local police to do everything from finding a body to locating evidence and has done things like this time and again. She has also served people in her community in matters relevant to her abilities.

She makes one point about her ability to do this that she says is crucial, and that is that it's a gift that she's been given, and it's her responsibility to use that gift to serve others. Consequently, she absolutely and categorically refuses, EVER, to accept any form of payment or gift or do anything (such as a lecture circuit or a book) that would generate personal income for her, stemming from her using her psychic abilities. She feels that it would be simply wrong to "capitalize" on her psychic abilities and does not agree with those who say that there is benefit to sharing what it's all about for her and be somehow paid for doing so. Her view is to simply use the skills to serve others. I mention this without comment other than to explain that this is simply her point of view....

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This woman helps individuals as well, not just governmental agencies, again refusing ever to consider accepting a gift or payment. She was called to the home of a couple whose young adult child (who still lived at the family home) had committed suicide, seemingly out of the clear blue and with no explanation. The parents were naturally devastated and confused.

She spent a while sitting and chatting with the parents, listening to everything they said which by and large were expressions of feelings rather than anything concrete. She then asked if she could spend some time in the child’s room, just to get a “feel” or “sense” of something—anything at all. After doing so, she came back downstairs to where the parents were sitting and apologetically explained that, unusual as it was, she had sensed nothing and regretfully could offer them no explanation and no solace other than her condolences.

She then added that the only thought or picture that had come to her mind made no sense and seemed completely irrelevant but that she would run it past them. She asked them if a “penguin” would seem to have any meaning to them in relation to their child, explaining that that image kept coming to her. The parents could not connect a penguin with anything, told her that it seemed meaningless to them, and she left.

Several months later the parents finally confronted dealing with the child’s room, packing up clothing, books, music, equipment that they had no wish to keep, and so forth. Suddenly, out of one book, a favorite of the child’s who had spoken about it to the parents in the past as having been very moved by it, fell what turned out to be a suicide note, the contents of which at least offered an explanation for the child’s rejection of life, though sadly nothing more. The book had been published by Random House and was part of the Penguin Library series.

The parents naturally contacted the psychic to tell her; she in turn felt relieved that at least the parents had some degree of answer for these devastated people. And to her, serving others with this unique skill (if that’s even the right word) was ALL that mattered; “cheap,” “charlatan,” “flushing one’s money down the toilet” were not even remotely part of the equation, so to speak, and so were irrelevant….

senior citizen
04-18-2013, 06:13 AM
I had posted this on another thread and am adding something that seems relevant.

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For what it's worth, the best friend of a cousin of mine is a psychic. Her explanation for this is what I emphasized above in part of the quoted comments [some folks are just more in tune with things spiritual or unseen…]. This woman has been called on by her local police to do everything from finding a body to locating evidence and has done things like this time and again. She has also served people in her community in matters relevant to her abilities.

She makes one point about her ability to do this that she says is crucial, and that is that it's a gift that she's been given, and it's her responsibility to use that gift to serve others. Consequently, she absolutely and categorically refuses, EVER, to accept any form of payment or gift or do anything (such as a lecture circuit or a book) that would generate personal income for her, stemming from her using her psychic abilities. She feels that it would be simply wrong to "capitalize" on her psychic abilities and does not agree with those who say that there is benefit to sharing what it's all about for her and be somehow paid for doing so. Her view is to simply use the skills to serve others. I mention this without comment other than to explain that this is simply her point of view....

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This woman helps individuals as well, not just governmental agencies, again refusing ever to consider accepting a gift or payment. She was called to the home of a couple whose young adult child (who still lived at the family home) had committed suicide, seemingly out of the clear blue and with no explanation. The parents were naturally devastated and confused.

She spent a while sitting and chatting with the parents, listening to everything they said which by and large were expressions of feelings rather than anything concrete. She then asked if she could spend some time in the child’s room, just to get a “feel” or “sense” of something—anything at all. After doing so, she came back downstairs to where the parents were sitting and apologetically explained that, unusual as it was, she had sensed nothing and regretfully could offer them no explanation and no solace other than her condolences.

She then added that the only thought or picture that had come to her mind made no sense and seemed completely irrelevant but that she would run it past them. She asked them if a “penguin” would seem to have any meaning to them in relation to their child, explaining that that image kept coming to her. The parents could not connect a penguin with anything, told her that it seemed meaningless to them, and she left.

Several months later the parents finally confronted dealing with the child’s room, packing up clothing, books, music, equipment that they had no wish to keep, and so forth. Suddenly, out of one book, a favorite of the child’s who had spoken about it to the parents in the past as having been very moved by it, fell what turned out to be a suicide note, the contents of which at least offered an explanation for the child’s rejection of life, though sadly nothing more. The book had been published by Random House and was part of the Penguin Library series.

The parents naturally contacted the psychic to tell her; she in turn felt relieved that at least the parents had some degree of answer for these devastated people. And to her, serving others with this unique skill (if that’s even the right word) was ALL that mattered; “cheap,” “charlatan,” “flushing one’s money down the toilet” were not even remotely part of the equation, so to speak, and so were irrelevant….


Great post. Thanks for sharing story of the amazing, caring friend of your cousin....who wasn't out to make money but to assist those in need.
Not knowing........would be so painful to those left behind.

By the way, does anyone know John Edward's real surname/last name?
Cancel that request:
John Edward - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Edward&printable=yes)

It's John Edward McGee Jr. I always thought he was Italian.
Instead....does anyone know the maiden name of John Edward's Italian mother?
My elderly cousin Jean once told me that I would really like John Edward.......
Many folks have been in awe of his readings.

One would have to come up with something that only the person in the audience would be aware of......in that case, they'd believe.
Of course there are charlatans in all walks of life.....but often there are God given gifts bestowed to some..........or maybe they just see more clearly.........

So many more "average" folks are phonier than any psychic going.

People have to "trust their gut" and "trust their intuition" before they give over money to a self proclaimed psychic.

graciegirl
04-18-2013, 08:32 AM
Great post. Thanks for sharing story of the amazing, caring friend of your cousin....who wasn't out to make money but to assist those in need.
Not knowing........would be so painful to those left behind.

By the way, does anyone know John Edward's real surname/last name?
Cancel that request:
John Edward - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Edward&printable=yes)

It's John Edward McGee Jr. I always thought he was Italian.
Instead....does anyone know the maiden name of John Edward's Italian mother?
My elderly cousin Jean once told me that I would really like John Edward.......
Many folks have been in awe of his readings.

One would have to come up with something that only the person in the audience would be aware of......in that case, they'd believe.
Of course there are charlatans in all walks of life.....but often there are God given gifts bestowed to some..........or maybe they just see more clearly.........

So many more "average" folks are phonier than any psychic going.

People have to "trust their gut" and "trust their intuition" before they give over money to a self proclaimed psychic.

I am too thrifty to consider it.

For a moment, since I read quickly, I thought the politician John Edwards had entered a new fiield.;)