Is the Sharon Ugly and/or ill conceived?

[Allegiance]

I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

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They are not God.

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[graciegirl]

The Disney planners hired to design Spanish Springs were asked to create a "whimsical " Spanish Town Square as I have heard it. All Spanish towns have churches. The church on the square was part of the fantasy look. I won't tell you what I think, although some people have called me artistic. My aunt and one other. Alright, I like it. I really like it.

Here is the letter from Mark Morse. This was a couple of years after a group called Palms who badly wanted a performing arts center approached him and he offered the church on the square enlarged on HIS dime and they turned him down. Not big enough or something like that. Not what they wanted.

http://www.districtgov.org/images/whatshappening/PerformingArtsCenterLetter.pdf

[OBXNana]

I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/624_351/images/live/p0/1k/gk/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

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I can't speak for the aesthetics of the building and won't see it until June. I want to add to your Post Scriptum and ask the question why do some do nothing but criticize the developer? It seems to go both ways 50/50.

[graciegirl]

Why two threads?

Here is a thread from 2010 on the subject.

The Morses are damned when they don't and damned when they do.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/time-performing-arts-center-now-27033/

[Allegiance]

Computer froze for like ten minutes so I stupidly hit button again. Wish I could delete one.

[justjim]

I will answer your last question first with another question. Why do many continually criticize the Developer? I totally agree Everybody has a right to their opinion.

I don't think it's ugly. The photos I've seen on the inside are beautiful.

You can bet that the parking (if it's a problem) will be addressed.

[Xavier]

I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

To answer your question directly, NO, the Sharon is not ugly, but your post is.

We had the extreme pleasure of attending the Charter High School's "The Show Must Go On" program. Obviously you didn't. You really missed something spectacular. The Sharon is not as glitzy on the inside as we had expected, but a far cry from ugly. We welcome it to our community and are looking forward to future happy times there.

Life is grand. You should try to enjoy it instead of spending time looking for negatives.

Xavier

[Challenger]

Many in the comunity wanted a better venue for performances.. The MAN tried to get the residents behind an effort, but the main objection as I remember it, was the costs and ongoing expenses. Many efforts of this type in other communities have failed.

The MAN steps up and out of his pockets provides an incredible facility for the community. We b---- because a sub standard restaurant accross the square is not going to be continued in its failing format.

I love living in TV, but the more I read this forum, the more I am shocked by the financial and business ignorance of many of the posters.

" Beter to be quiet and have people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

[tomwed]

I think his or her deliberately provocative message is intended to cause maximum disruption and argument.
Either that or he or she really thinks the building is ugly.


I'll follow along until tee time.
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ps I need to work on my emoticon skills.

[Bay Kid]

I think it is a beautiful building. The pictures I have seen of the inside look fantastic. It fits right in with the town! Great job!

[sunnyatlast]

So if the developers had demolished the existing "church" building and bulldozed the rubble to use as fill under a new parking lot somewhere, you and the others would be b:tching about how wasteful they are of a perfectly good auditorium and small concert venue that could have been repurposed and expanded.

And if you knew what Spanish colonial architecture inspired by St. Augustine, FL
was, you'd know the Sharon was carefully incorporated into the architecture there at Spanish Springs.

As for people supposedly never saying anything negative about the developers, you could always buy the radio station and newspaper company, and you could buy a b:tch forum like this one, to have all the negative stuff aired that you want to.

Put your money where your mouth is, and then see if people who decry a $2 split plate charge at a restaurant and never tip more than a dollar bill will buy the product and performance.

[bagboy]

Many in the comunity wanted a better venue for performances.. The MAN tried to get the residents behind an effort, but the main objection as I remember it, was the costs and ongoing expenses. Many efforts of this type in other communities have failed.

The MAN steps up and out of his pockets provides an incredible facility for the community. We b---- because a sub standard restaurant accross the square is not going to be continued in its failing format.

I love living in TV, but the more I read this forum, the more I am shocked by the financial and business ignorance of many of the posters.

" Beter to be quiet and have people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'


I couldn't agree more!

[Mleeja]

Critizers are going to criticize and haters are going to hate! When the new KBs opens it could be like best 5 star restaurant. However we will be reading 100s of comments of how bad it is and how the developer is screwing us poor Villagers. It gets kindof repetitive...

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

[Mleeja]

When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

I know we are not to direct comments to specific users, but in this case I am because I am complementing Boogie's post. You have stated you position very well supported with facts. I would not call this type of post negative, but a well supported opinion. Others could learn from your post. :coolsmiley:

[janmcn]

I know we are not to direct comments to specific users, but in this case I am because I am complementing Boogie's post. You have stated you position very well supported with facts. I would not call this type of post negative, but a well supported opinion. Others could learn from your post. :coolsmiley:


Also complimenting Boogie's well-thought out post with one additional thought. Mark Morse is not going to use a piece of land that could accommodate 800 homes for a performing art center or anything other than 800 homes to sell quickly. This business model explains the lack of churches, softball courts, bowling alleys, dog parks, etc in any area that could be developed.

[Bonny]

I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/624_351/images/live/p0/1k/gk/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:
I love the building. I also loved it before.
No reason to criticize the developer. They are developers which means they develop.

[Taltarzac725]

When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

I have had visitors who have thought the same. Not a good location and that kind of an unappealing to the eye building. The original Church on the Square was beautiful. The Sharon does look quite attractive inside, however.

[justjim]

Well thought out post and perspective Dr. Winston. I have been to Spanish Springs on a night when entertainment was in the Church on The Square and it was full and there were lots of others enjoying the music and dancing on the Square too. I don't remember having a terrible time finding a parking space. Now, a parade like St. Patrick's, parking was a bit of a problem. If parking is a problem, I believe the Developer will come up with a solution.

Who knows about the long range plans for any of the Squares?

I do think that the Developer could be a little more transparent about long range plans for The Villages. I know in business you have to be careful,for obvious reasons, but many rumors etc. could be put to rest with a bit more transparency. Ooops---careful about negatives!

Like its already been said, let's just wait and see how this beautiful facility works.

[janmcn]

Well thought out post and perspective Dr. Winston. I have been to Spanish Springs on a night when entertainment was in the Church on The Square and it was full and there were lots of others enjoying the music and dancing on the Square too. I don't remember having a terrible time finding a parking space. Now, a parade like St. Patrick's, parking was a bit of a problem. If parking is a problem, I believe the Developer will come up with a solution.

Who knows about the long range plans for any of the Squares?

I do think that the Developer could be a little more transparent about long range plans for The Villages. I know in business you have to be careful,for obvious reasons, but many rumors etc. could be put to rest with a bit more transparency. Ooops---careful about negatives!

Like its already been said, let's just wait and see how this beautiful facility works.


A good place to hear what those long range plans are will be Mark Morse's state of The Villages speech in May. Tickets will be available starting next Monday, April 27, at 8:00am at The Sharon.

[Xavier]

When it was being built, I commented several times to my wife that the big wall on the side facing the square looked out of place in the quaint little square. Yes, I think that outside of the building is ugly and doesn't fit the square.

I don't think that the issue is whether to have built a bigger and better performance center. I think that many, if not most, residence wanted that. The two issues that I see are the size and location.

Being only 200 seats larger than the Savannah Center, I can't see where it's going to attract big name artists. If it does, the ticket prices will have to be astronomical.

The second issue is location. Many people don't understand why this had to be built in an already busy and congested town square with limited parking. There are plenty areas more centrally located where a larger (2,000-3,000) seat facility could have been built with plenty of parking. It also would have made more sense to to have it more centrally located on one of the major east to west roads, 466 and 466A. People from the southern and central areas would have had easier access. The area across from Pinellas on 466A that they just bought immediately came to my mind as the perfect spot if a 3,000 seat venue. Easy access from a main road, centrally located and plenty of room for parking.
They could have also added some retail and restaurants for the patrons of the performance center.

It's not only parking that will be an additional problem, but an additional 500 cars and golf carts coming into the square on concert nights will cause quite a bit of traffic. Look at the roads coming into the square. They are all small one lane in each direction roads. Main St., Paige Place, Del Mar, Alonzo and the other streets are going to be jammed up when The Sharon is sold out.

I'm not trying to be critical of the developer. I am a huge fan of this organization and love almost everything that they've done so far. I just can't agree with this one.

This is my own opinion of course and I could be proven wrong so we'll all just wait and see. In the meant time we should be able to discuss things and give our opinions without being criticized or labeled as negative. We're not all going to agree on everything all the time.

It is what it is. It certainly isn't going to be moved or un-built. I'm sure we can somehow manage to live with it. Enjoy it if you can. If you can't, move on to something else that you may be able to change. In our golden years, it seems we would have learned those lessons. For our (scant) remaining years, we can enjoy life or be trampled by things that we don't agree with.

By the way, on Saturday night there were lots of things going on in Spanish Springs. The PBA tournament, the entertainment in the square (exceptional band by the way), the Cruise-in, and the sold out show at The Sharon. With just a little planning, we parked and dined at Ruby Tuesdays, with only a 10 minute wait, viewed some of the classic cars, listened to the band and, without waiting in line, found our seats inside The Sharon. Our departure from Spanish Springs was as uneventful as our arrival.

Xavier

[Miles42]

I like the building and the concept.

[asianthree]

our son who has spent numerous years in Mexico walked past this week and pointed out that it looked exactly like a small church in Mexico with the monastery attached. he actually has pictures that look almost exactly alike and in the same color configuration that it has been painted. so I guess in keeping with the Spanish Springs mode they hit the nail on the head.

[looneycat]

in an area where people flock to see cover bands this type of venue will be perfect.

[Taltarzac725]

The Sharon | Schedule - The Villages Sharon L. Morse Performing Arts Center (http://www.thesharon.com/schedule.php)

These look like good choices for the Villages.

[mrdills]

I was a little surprised The Villages didn't have an open house to show off it to the residence.

[Bogie Shooter]

I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/624_351/images/live/p0/1k/gk/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

And what would the survey accomplish?

[Bogie Shooter]

It is what it is. It certainly isn't going to be moved or un-built. I'm sure we can somehow manage to live with it. Enjoy it if you can. If you can't, move on to something else that you may be able to change. In our golden years, it seems we would have learned those lessons. For our (scant) remaining years, we can enjoy life or be trampled by things that we don't agree with.

By the way, on Saturday night there were lots of things going on in Spanish Springs. The PGA tournament, the entertainment in the square (exceptional band by the way), the Cruise-in, and the sold out show at The Sharon. With just a little planning, we parked and dined at Ruby Tuesdays, with only a 10 minute wait, viewed some of the classic cars, listened to the band and, without waiting in line, found our seats inside The Sharon. Our departure from Spanish Springs was as uneventful as our arrival.

Xavier

How can this be? I read on TOTV from some very knowledge posters there are/will be many problems.:clap2:

[Bogie Shooter]

I was a little surprised The Villages didn't have an open house to show off it to the residence.

........to include a souvenir mug.:ho:

[JoMar]

Just a question.......what was the difference when it was The Church on The Square, seating capacity, frequency of shows, other uses for the facility? Is there that much difference between the two that it will cause SS to implode?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

So if the developers had demolished the existing "church" building and bulldozed the rubble to use as fill under a new parking lot somewhere, you and the others would be b:tching about how wasteful they are of a perfectly good auditorium and small concert venue that could have been repurposed and expanded.

And if you knew what Spanish colonial architecture inspired by St. Augustine, FL
was, you'd know the Sharon was carefully incorporated into the architecture there at Spanish Springs.

As for people supposedly never saying anything negative about the developers, you could always buy the radio station and newspaper company, and you could buy a b:tch forum like this one, to have all the negative stuff aired that you want to.

Put your money where your mouth is, and then see if people who decry a $2 split plate charge at a restaurant and never tip more than a dollar bill will buy the product and performance.

Who said anything about demolishing the Church on the Square and turning it into a parking lot.

I think that the main concern of most people is that Town Square at Spanish Springs is not the best place to put a big performance center. The Church could have been left as it was ad a larger performance center could have been built at another location. In fact it could have been built where the Savannah Center now sits. Do we really need two performance centers of 800 seats and 1,000 seats within a few miles of one another?

[Xavier]

Who said anything about demolishing the Church on the Square and turning it into a parking lot.

I think that the main concern of most people is that Town Square at Spanish Springs is not the best place to put a big performance center. The Church could have been left as it was ad a larger performance center could have been built at another location. In fact it could have been built where the Savannah Center now sits. Do we really need two performance centers of 800 seats and 1,000 seats within a few miles of one another?

I'm thinking that the Church on the Square was chronically underused and that is what brought the Developer(s) to the point of looking for a solution to two problems, a beautiful white elephant that was turning into a money-pit and the need for a more professional venue for the Performing Arts.

I'd dare bet that both locations, the Savannah Center and The Sharon, will be sufficiently used. Any takers?

Xavier

[Xavier]

How can this be? I read on TOTV from some very knowledge posters there are/will be many problems.:clap2:

Miracles happen, my friend. Miracles happen. Not all wisdom is divested solely amongst the Negative-Nellies. I think the Morse family may have a bit of it (wisdom) too!

Xavier

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It is what it is. It certainly isn't going to be moved or un-built. I'm sure we can somehow manage to live with it. Enjoy it if you can. If you can't, move on to something else that you may be able to change. In our golden years, it seems we would have learned those lessons. For our (scant) remaining years, we can enjoy life or be trampled by things that we don't agree with.

By the way, on Saturday night there were lots of things going on in Spanish Springs. The PBA tournament, the entertainment in the square (exceptional band by the way), the Cruise-in, and the sold out show at The Sharon. With just a little planning, we parked and dined at Ruby Tuesdays, with only a 10 minute wait, viewed some of the classic cars, listened to the band and, without waiting in line, found our seats inside The Sharon. Our departure from Spanish Springs was as uneventful as our arrival.

Xavier

I agree 100%. There is nothing anyone can do about it now. It''s not the end of the world and of course, we'll all learn to live with it.

I hope that it works out and that everyone attending events there will have the same experience as you.

[Xavier]

I agree 100%. There is nothing anyone can do about it now. It''s not the end of the world and of course, we'll all learn to live with it.

I hope that it works out and that everyone attending events there will have the same experience as you.

I feel the key to the whole thing is that we need to have reasonable expectations and take some initiative upon ourselves. This entitled mind-set that has, from time to time, been exhibited around The Villages, by a small group of Villagers, is enough to drive us all down the path to distraction.

Xavier

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The Sharon | Schedule - The Villages Sharon L. Morse Performing Arts Center (http://www.thesharon.com/schedule.php)

These look like good choices for the Villages.

Patti Lupone I am not interested in but obviously it sold out so either a lot of people like her or a lot of people are interested in the opening of the new venue.

I would love to see the Million Dollar Quartet but not for $65-$100

Five guys impersonating the Temptations. I wonder if people realize that there is not one original member of the Temptation performing with these impersonators. And I'm told that the same group will be appearing about ten miles from here and the seats are $25.00 which is more in line for tickets to see tribute bands.

Crystal Gayle is very good and $45.00 to $65.00 is reasonable.

The Tommy Dorsey Orchestra, again has no members of the original band. But, again $29.00 to $39.00 is reasonable for a good tribute band.

Amy Grant tickets run up to $125.00. I think that you can see her from orchestra seats for about $40.00 most places she plays.


Deana Martin? Dean Martin's daughter? Really?

Lee Greenwood will sell out here no matter what. Even though he's a one hit wonder, his one hit is like the national anthem of The Villages.

It's pretty much just what I expect and what I've been saying. Not a lot of great acts and ticket prices are too high for the more popular ones.

[NJblue]

While I liked the visual symmetry of the old configuration, the new building is a long way from ugly. I think SS is a good location for it. We have to remember that this building must be economically viable to survive. My guess is that part of its appeal to the devloper was the fact that, by putting it in a town center, it makes the restaurants and shops in town more profitable by virtue of more people coming into the area. More profits for the businesses mean more profits for the developer that can be used to prove in the economic viability of the performing arts center. I tip my hat to them on this and wish them luck.

[Bonny]

While I liked the visual symmetry of the old configuration, the new building is a long way from ugly. I think SS is a good location for it. We have to remember that this building must be economically viable to survive. My guess is that part of its appeal to the devloper was the fact that, by putting it in a town center, it makes the restaurants and shops in town more profitable by virtue of more people coming into the area. More profits for the businesses mean more profits for the developer that can be used to prove in the economic viability of the performing arts center. I tip my hat to them on this and wish them luck.

:clap2:

[NJblue]

Patti Lupone I am not interested in but obviously it sold out so either a lot of people like her or a lot of people are interested in the opening of the new venue.

I would love to see the Million Dollar Quartet but not for $65-$100

Five guys impersonating the Temptations. I wonder if people realize that there is not one original member of the Temptation performing with these impersonators. And I'm told that the same group will be appearing about ten miles from here and the seats are $25.00 which is more in line for tickets to see tribute bands.

Crystal Gayle is very good and $45.00 to $65.00 is reasonable.

The Tommy Dorsey Orchestra, again has no members of the original band. But, again $29.00 to $39.00 is reasonable for a good tribute band.

Amy Grant tickets run up to $125.00. I think that you can see her from orchestra seats for about $40.00 most places she plays.


Deana Martin? Dean Martin's daughter? Really?

Lee Greenwood will sell out here no matter what. Even though he's a one hit wonder, his one hit is like the national anthem of The Villages.

It's pretty much just what I expect and what I've been saying. Not a lot of great acts and ticket prices are too high for the more popular ones.

I understand the gist of your post and absent data, I would have agreed with you. Turns out the Million Dollar Quartet is essentially sold out, so they must have hit a good price point for TV.

You dis my Amy Grant? You are wrong on that as well:
Amy Grant May 23, 2015 (http://www.stubhub.com/amy-grant-tickets/amy-grant-la-mirada-la-mirada-theatre-5-23-2015-9285610/)
With prices up to $150 elsewhere, seeing her at The Sharon is a bargain.

[Beechie]

I was a little surprised The Villages didn't have an open house to show off it to the residence.

Not that it would be expected, but what a wonderful unveiling to The Villagers to have had an open house with drinks and snacks. Scheduled walkthrus over a couple of days. Perhaps a missed opportunity.

[JoMar]

I believe Otis Williams is with the Temps and he is an original member......in any event, it is all about the music, would rather see a group that does the music justice then the original's who don't.....Sha Na Na comes to mind.

[Cathy H]

my hubby "sweaty" reminds me that the imaginary parking problem can be solved since 2 carts can park in one car space, so cart in all you concert goers

[Chi-Town]

It is what it is. It certainly isn't going to be moved or un-built. I'm sure we can somehow manage to live with it. Enjoy it if you can. If you can't, move on to something else that you may be able to change. In our golden years, it seems we would have learned those lessons. For our (scant) remaining years, we can enjoy life or be trampled by things that we don't agree with.

By the way, on Saturday night there were lots of things going on in Spanish Springs. The PBA tournament, the entertainment in the square (exceptional band by the way), the Cruise-in, and the sold out show at The Sharon. With just a little planning, we parked and dined at Ruby Tuesdays, with only a 10 minute wait, viewed some of the classic cars, listened to the band and, without waiting in line, found our seats inside The Sharon. Our departure from Spanish Springs was as uneventful as our arrival.

Xavier
Nice to know how well things went. That should quiet the naysayers. Well, some of them.

[KeepingItReal]

[QUOTE=Dr Winston O Boogie jr;1048520]
Five guys impersonating the Temptations. I wonder if people realize that there is not one original member of the Temptation performing with these impersonators. And I'm told that the same group will be appearing about ten miles from here and the seats are $25.00 which is more in line for tickets to see tribute bands.

Since we have tickets I thought I would check it out. Don't see anything close to here and the cheapest tickets start at around $45 and most are over $100 up to over $200 on the link below for their appearances..

Totally agree it would have been good to have something on the south side. As usual people and even big businesses tend to do the same things they have always done.

The Temptations Calendar 2015, Tour Dates & Concerts (http://www.songkick.com/artists/499703-temptations/calendar)

[jrandall]

It looks great. I for one pinch myself each day because I feel so blessed to live in The Villages. I Absolutely have no reason to complain about anything.

[Bonny]

It looks great. I for one pinch myself each day because I feel so blessed to live in The Villages. I Absolutely have no reason to complain about anything.
ME TOO !!!! We have lost several good friends in the last 2 months. Life is just too short. My favorite saying in the world.... "I do everything for fun. If it ain't fun, I don't do it." At this age, I just want to laugh and have fun with family and friends !!! Why on earth does anyone want to b**ch and moan about things they can't change and have no control over. Just relax, chill and enjoy your life !!

[JoMar]

[QUOTE=Dr Winston O Boogie jr;1048520]
Five guys impersonating the Temptations. I wonder if people realize that there is not one original member of the Temptation performing with these impersonators. And I'm told that the same group will be appearing about ten miles from here and the seats are $25.00 which is more in line for tickets to see tribute bands.

Since we have tickets I thought I would check it out. Don't see anything close to here and the cheapest tickets start at around $45 and most are over $100 up to over $200 on the link below for their appearances..

Totally agree it would have been good to have something on the south side. As usual people and even big businesses tend to do the same things they have always done.

The Temptations Calendar 2015, Tour Dates & Concerts (http://www.songkick.com/artists/499703-temptations/calendar)



Otis Williams was an original.

[DougB]

Otis Williams will not be performing with them at The Sharon. Otis Williams owns the name "The Temptations". Note that the group coming to The King Center is "The Temptations Review featuring Dennis Edwards". Edwards joined in 68 replacing David Ruffin.

[graciegirl]

Just to summarize

There was a group who wanted a performing arts center some years ago and Mark Morse offered to enlarge the Church on the Square and they turned him down.They wanted something bigger or to their plans.

The church on the square had been used by a church early on and then for many years had a rotating bunch of non denominational speakers at noon on Sunday. The building was used for a variety of musical events including The Villages Philharmonic. Some of the smaller groups were very inexpensive.

Here is the letter sent by Mark Morse to Janet Tutt in 2010.

http://www.districtgov.org/images/whatshappening/PerformingArtsCenterLetter.pdf

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

[quote=KeepingItReal;1048684]

Otis Williams was an original.

True, my bad.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Just to summarize

There was a group who wanted a performing arts center some years ago and Mark Morse offered to enlarge the Church on the Square and they turned him down.They wanted something bigger or to their plans.

The church on the square had been used by a church early on and then for many years had a rotating bunch of non denominational speakers at noon on Sunday. The building was used for a variety of musical events including The Villages Philharmonic. Some of the smaller groups were very inexpensive.

Here is the letter sent by Mark Morse to Janet Tutt in 2010.

http://www.districtgov.org/images/whatshappening/PerformingArtsCenterLetter.pdf

Interesting letter. They obviously did it as inexpensively as possible with absolute minimum risk involved. That is pretty apparent looking at the finished product. And I can't really say that I blame them for that. They are being very conservative.

What I don't see in this letter is any mention of demographics surrounding some of these struggling centers. The Villages is now at about 110,000 people and growing. A bigger facility in a better location would also draw from Wildwood, Summerfield, Bellevue, Fruitland Park, Leesburg and even Ocala not to mention Weirsdale and communities up that way.

The Villages also has a good percentage of it's population that has the disposal income to enjoy a facility.

I don't know what kind of studies were done so I really can't have an opinion based on any real numbers, but it does seem to me that this area could stand a bigger performance center.

[Number 6]

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[Number 6]

Am I correct in assuming that Rocky Entertainment is not booking acts into the Sharon? They have acts still booked into the Savannah Center into next year. Might be the cost, no (or politics)?

[Bogie Shooter]

Interesting letter. They obviously did it as inexpensively as possible with absolute minimum risk involved. That is pretty apparent looking at the finished product. And I can't really say that I blame them for that. They are being very conservative.

What I don't see in this letter is any mention of demographics surrounding some of these struggling centers. The Villages is now at about 110,000 people and growing. A bigger facility in a better location would also draw from Wildwood, Summerfield, Bellevue, Fruitland Park, Leesburg and even Ocala not to mention Weirsdale and communities up that way.

The Villages also has a good percentage of it's population that has the disposal income to enjoy a facility.

I don't know what kind of studies were done so I really can't have an opinion based on any real numbers, but it does seem to me that this area could stand a bigger performance center.

Its too bad you were not here in 2010 to lend your expertise and opinion to the PALM comittee. What is accomplished at this point by picking on the center that is now a reality?
High hopes for Villages performing arts center | Ocala.com (http://www.ocala.com/article/20101128/articles/101129750)

[Bonny]

Am I correct in assuming that Rocky Entertainment is not booking acts into the Sharon? They have acts still booked into the Savannah Center into next year. Might be the cost, no (or politics)?
Why are you assuming this ?

[Number 6]

Why are you assuming this ?

Because he has acts booked into the Savannah Center into 2016 and has nothing booked into the Sharon.
Just asking.

[Xavier]

Its too bad you were not here in 2010 to lend your expertise and opinion to the PALM comittee. What is accomplished at this point by picking on the center that is now a reality?
High hopes for Villages performing arts center | Ocala.com (http://www.ocala.com/article/20101128/articles/101129750)

It is a shame indeed. Good question as well. Water over the dam or under the bridge. Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda!!

Xavier

[graciegirl]

I think this speaks for itself. Income. Expenses. Funding. Funding seems important, very important in many cases.

http://nonprofits.findthecompany.com/d/h/Performing-Arts-Centers

[Challenger]

I think this speaks for itself. Income. Expenses. Funding. Funding seems important, very important in many cases.

http://nonprofits.findthecompany.com/d/h/Performing-Arts-Centers

"You have to do well in order to do good." a financial white elephant would plague the community for years. Thanks to the" family" once again for remaining rational.

[JoMar]

Because he has acts booked into the Savannah Center into 2016 and has nothing booked into the Sharon.
Just asking.

Has entertainment booked into January 2017 at the Sharon. Assume more will be coming so we will continue to have choices....not a bad thing.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

[QUOTE=Dr Winston O Boogie jr;1048520]
Five guys impersonating the Temptations. I wonder if people realize that there is not one original member of the Temptation performing with these impersonators. And I'm told that the same group will be appearing about ten miles from here and the seats are $25.00 which is more in line for tickets to see tribute bands.

Since we have tickets I thought I would check it out. Don't see anything close to here and the cheapest tickets start at around $45 and most are over $100 up to over $200 on the link below for their appearances..

Totally agree it would have been good to have something on the south side. As usual people and even big businesses tend to do the same things they have always done.

The Temptations Calendar 2015, Tour Dates & Concerts (http://www.songkick.com/artists/499703-temptations/calendar)



The Temptations with Otis Williams are playing at the Trilogy in Orlando on May 20. Tickets run from $35 to $65. The Temptations Review is what is playing at the Sharon. The lead singer replaced Davis Ruffin toward the end of their run. He didn't sing on any of their hit records.

[Number 6]

Has entertainment booked into January 2017 at the Sharon. Assume more will be coming so we will continue to have choices....not a bad thing.

I was specifically asking about Rocky Entertainment, who, as far as I can see has not booked the Sharon.

[Chi-Town]

I was specifically asking about Rocky Entertainment, who, as far as I can see has not booked the Sharon.
Rocky Entertainment may be considered local, catering more to the Squares, Katie Belles, and the Savannah Center. I doubt if they will ever play The Sharon unless it's part of a benefit gala.

[JoMar]

[quote=KeepingItReal;1048684]

The Temptations with Otis Williams are playing at the Trilogy in Orlando on May 20. Tickets run from $35 to $65. The Temptations Review is what is playing at the Sharon. The lead singer replaced Davis Ruffin toward the end of their run. He didn't sing on any of their hit records.

I stand corrected, thank you.

[Bonny]

Rocky Entertainment may be considered local, catering more to the Squares, Katie Belles, and the Savannah Center. I doubt if they will ever play The Sharon unless it's part of a benefit gala.
I would think it will depend on the various artists Rocky brings in.

[jbdlfan]

Miracles happen, my friend. Miracles happen. Not all wisdom is divested solely amongst the Negative-Nellies. I think the Morse family may have a bit of it (wisdom) too!

Xavier

I personally don't care, but to compare a night in middle of April with December- March is apples to oranges. Cruise in, holiday movies, seasonal residents, The Sharon, new World of Beer, these will pose challenges. I would withhold judgment on that one.

[coach]

[quote=KeepingItReal;1048684]

The Temptations with Otis Williams are playing at the Trilogy in Orlando on May 20. Tickets run from $35 to $65. The Temptations Review is what is playing at the Sharon. The lead singer replaced Davis Ruffin toward the end of their run. He didn't sing on any of their hit records.

I really don't have a dog in this fight, but it bothers me when comments are made about Dennis Edwards and the Temptation Review that are just plain wrong. Dennis Edwards replaced David Ruffin in the fall of 1968 after Ruffin was fired. Edwards was lead singer from 68-76, 80-84' and 87-89. During these years they had 14 gold albums, 5 Grammys, were inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame and had 38 billboard top 40 hits. So when you say that Dennis Edwards is some has been with no credentials you are just flat wrong. The concert will be wonderful I assure you.

[JoMar]

I think Boogie's position is that if they aren't the original day 1 group they aren't worth seeing and the groups are all just impersonators. In his context he is or course, correct since most of the original day 1 groups are dead. I think his other points revolve around cost and that is an individual choice. I'm a believer that the music needs to be kept alive and that's what these groups do. They don't add their own style, or their own interpretation.....they give it to us the way we remember. I will be at their show.

[tomwed]

If I had any talent or knew any talent, I would put together a knock-off woodstock concert for the stage. I would just go to the album[s] and have those songs performed. How could you miss? Call it the 46th anniversary concert.

[DougB]

[quote=KeepingItReal;1048684]

The Temptations with Otis Williams are playing at the Trilogy in Orlando on May 20. Tickets run from $35 to $65. The Temptations Review is what is playing at the Sharon. The lead singer replaced Davis Ruffin toward the end of their run. He didn't sing on any of their hit records.


[quote=Dr Winston O Boogie jr;1048920]

I stand corrected, thank you.

See post #48
Edwards sang on many hits; Cloud 9, I Can't Get Next to You, Ball of Confusion, Shakey Ground, Papa Was a Rolling Stone.

[Chi-Town]

The Four Tops and The Temptations played together many years ago at Ravinia which is an outdoor venue north of Chicago. There was hardly an original member between them even then. But it was extremely crowded and everybody had a great time. Already have tickets for The Sharon.

[EnglishJW]

[quote=Dr Winston O Boogie jr;1048920]

I really don't have a dog in this fight, but it bothers me when comments are made about Dennis Edwards and the Temptation Review that are just plain wrong. Dennis Edwards replaced David Ruffin in the fall of 1968 after Ruffin was fired. Edwards was lead singer from 68-76, 80-84' and 87-89. During these years they had 14 gold albums, 5 Grammys, were inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame and had 38 billboard top 40 hits. So when you say that Dennis Edwards is some has been with no credentials you are just flat wrong. The concert will be wonderful I assure you.


I understand both sides of this discussion since we are somewhat like the blindfolded men describing an elephant. For me, Eddie Kendricks and David Ruffin WERE the Temptations. On the other hand, without these two, the group has gone on to have a wonderfully successful career. It isn't an 'either/or' discussion. The Temptations changed and evolved. What was is not what is. How about The Drifters (with or without Ben E. King)? Or The Beach Boys (with or without Brian, Dennis and Carl Wilson as well as Al Jardine)? Let's enjoy things we like.

[Bruiser1]

:BigApplause:ME TOO !!!! We have lost several good friends in the last 2 months. Life is just too short. My favorite saying in the world.... "I do everything for fun. If it ain't fun, I don't do it." At this age, I just want to laugh and have fun with family and friends !!! Why on earth does anyone want to b**ch and moan about things they can't change and have no control over. Just relax, chill and enjoy your life !!


I have to agree with Bonnie! Several weeks ago friends expressed an interest in seeing Beginnings (Chicago tribute band) at Savannah. I thought I hope I can still get tickets . I was delighted to get 4- 6th row tickets .

The band came out and the horns section was fantastic. The band obviously was charged up with the enthusiastic response of the audience. This was their third trip here and they expressed their desire to return again.

Thanks also for Doctor Boogie for expressing himself on the forum.
"Imagine" if we all could live in peace and harmony! Until then "we can work it out"!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

:BigApplause:


I have to agree with Bonnie! Several weeks ago friends expressed an interest in seeing Beginnings (Chicago tribute band) at Savannah. I thought I hope I can still get tickets . I was delighted to get 4- 6th row tickets .

The band came out and the horns section was fantastic. The band obviously was charged up with the enthusiastic response of the audience. This was their third trip here and they expressed their desire to return again.

Thanks also for Doctor Boogie for expressing himself on the forum.
"Imagine" if we all could live in peace and harmony! Until then "we can work it out"!

I have no problems with tribute bands. In fact I've played in some. You just don't normally pay a lot of money to see them. A friend of mine plays in one of the top Beatles Tribute bands in the world. These guys travel all over the world and have even won an Emmy. Tickets to see them top out at about $35.00.

I just don't like it when the billing is for a famous band and you get to see one of the members of that band and a lot of professional musicians. It happened to me a few years back when I shelled out $100 per ticket to see the Beach Boys only to find that it was Mike Love and a cast of unknowns. Sorry, but it wasn't the Beach Boys.

It's like what English JW said about Kendricks and Ruffin being The Temptations. Even though Dennis Edwards did sing on several of their later records, he alone is not the Temptations. Otis Williams was pretty much a back up singer in the group and he along with four other guys is not the Temptations. I have no problem that people go to see them and enjoy them. I just think that they should be advertised and priced according to what they are.

On the other hand, if people are willing to pay big bucks to see these acts, God Bless them for being able to get it.

[looneycat]

I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?


They are not God.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

nope it's not ugly at all and yes it belongs there and was there when you got here, so? I don't know anything about past surveys that didn't want this, please provide us with those imagined survey results....saying it doesn't make it so

[Number 6]

I have no problems with tribute bands. In fact I've played in some. You just don't normally pay a lot of money to see them. A friend of mine plays in one of the top Beatles Tribute bands in the world. These guys travel all over the world and have even won an Emmy. Tickets to see them top out at about $35.00.

I just don't like it when the billing is for a famous band and you get to see one of the members of that band and a lot of professional musicians. It happened to me a few years back when I shelled out $100 per ticket to see the Beach Boys only to find that it was Mike Love and a cast of unknowns. Sorry, but it wasn't the Beach Boys.

It's like what English JW said about Kendricks and Ruffin being The Temptations. Even though Dennis Edwards did sing on several of their later records, he alone is not the Temptations. Otis Williams was pretty much a back up singer in the group and he along with four other guys is not the Temptations. I have no problem that people go to see them and enjoy them. I just think that they should be advertised and priced according to what they are.

On the other hand, if people are willing to pay big bucks to see these acts, God Bless them for being able to get it.

Just my opinion but Jay and the Americans without Jay Black is a tribute band. That goes for the Animals without Eric Burdon, the Lovin' Spoonful without John Sebastian, Herman's Hermits without Peter Noone, the Classics 4 without Dennis Yost, well you take my point.
Hey, there is nothing wrong with this, as long as you know what you are buying I went to the Classics 4 show and it was great. I have seen a couple of dozen Beatle tribute bands and will continue to do so. I will not, however, waste my money watching Joe Butler play the autoharp and sing, "Do You Believe in Magic".

[brovelli]

Have been inside for the HS kids. It is a beautifully done theatre. I have tickets for the "State of the Villages message" and "Million Dollar Quartet" in May.

The lobby area, the old Church on the Square is still in tack, alter and all.. I would guess it wouldn't take much to actually have a "wedding there",, just rent some chairs,but don't know.

I have "heard" something awful that I think the developer should address.. (I don't have a single fact, so if someone know something, would love to hear..)
I heard that the Villages Orchestra will not be at the Sharon.. What a waste. The sound system was amazing and sitting in the seats would have made listening to wonderful music a joy. Maybe that is not true.. I can hope.
b

[Bizdoc]

I have "heard" something awful that I think the developer should address.. (I don't have a single fact, so if someone know something, would love to hear..)
I heard that the Villages Orchestra will not be at the Sharon.. What a waste. The sound system was amazing and sitting in the seats would have made listening to wonderful music a joy. Maybe that is not true.. I can hope.
b

It is true that the Philharmonic Orchestra will not be performing there for the 2015-16 season. The official reason was that they could not agree on dates which need to set far in advance for the visiting soloists.

The real reason is probably poor attendance. Other than Messiah, they had 25-50% of the seats empty this year. A sad fact of life for all orchestras is that their audiences are literally dying - the bulk of their season ticket holders (and patrons) are up in years. I doubt that they will be around very many more years.

And no, it isn't the seats or acoustics at Savannah Center. Plenty of other groups sell out including the various Villages Bands, Villages Symphony, and the Wisconsin Singers.

The success or failure of the Philharmonic is the responsibility of its board. Why does everyone want *The Developer* to shoulder responsibility for everything?

[rdhdleo]

:agree:While I liked the visual symmetry of the old configuration, the new building is a long way from ugly. I think SS is a good location for it. We have to remember that this building must be economically viable to survive. My guess is that part of its appeal to the devloper was the fact that, by putting it in a town center, it makes the restaurants and shops in town more profitable by virtue of more people coming into the area. More profits for the businesses mean more profits for the developer that can be used to prove in the economic viability of the performing arts center. I tip my hat to them on this and wish them luck.

:agree: BEST post yet!!! I for one feel the building blends in well, is beautiful inside and out and will be an asset to businesses in the area and those that wish to enjoy what it has to offer. The Villages has something for everyone. Variety is the spice of life. I for one am grateful we have so many versatile venues to enjoy!

[2BNTV]

Random thoughts:
1. I think SS is a beautiful square.
2. Should have Sharon Morse PAC be built in an area where ample parking with a bigger seating capacity along 466 by Bealls, would have been my choice.
3. I would have preferred KB's to be remodeled/updated and not changed.
4. Change will always happen and "who's to say", it's not for the best.

Last time I looked, the developer didn't ask my opinion on what is to be built and where, and they have done a great job in building the most beautiful retirement community ever!!!

Time to "let it be" and be happy!!!

[brovelli]

I was thinking it was a financial decision.. not a no. of people issue.. Just for the music,
(Financial would be developer.)
Have been here for almost 8 years. Yes, the villages are growing and growning.. but it has to meet the needs of the new residents..
(Hence Pinellas and Trevare Plazas.)

Things will be fine... don't worry.. Have a great day.

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlJ9rW41C6M


The Sharon actually looks better now. I have not been to Spanish Springs Square in a year or so. Or, if I had been was not paying much attention to the Sharon's progress. I did see it last April or so when family members were visiting.

[Challenger]

Can we get an eye witness assessment on the parking- from someone who was there last night? No second hand or rumors please.

[perrjojo]

Can we get an eye witness assessment on the parking- from someone who was there last night? No second hand or rumors please.

The doors opened at 6:30 and we arrived about 6:45. We parked behind the Movie theater and there was ample parking. Valet parking was available and there were at least 10 young men available to park cars, however they did not appear to be very busy.

[Challenger]

The doors opened at 6:30 and we arrived about 6:45. We parked behind the Movie theater and there was ample parking. Valet parking was available and there were at least 10 young men available to park cars, however they did not appear to be very busy.

Another dire speculation, conspiracy theory blown to bits. What's a naysayer to do.:22yikes:

[Bogie Shooter]

Another dire speculation, conspiracy theory blown to bits. What's a naysayer to do.:22yikes:

Wait a couple weeks and start a new thread...........with the same dire warning!

[graciegirl]

I have read the other threads on The Sharon and some people think it was a bad idea, parking etc. People have personally told me that previous surveys have suggested against it being built but the Developer built regardless. I walk by The Sharon most mornings and I have to say I think its ugly. It kinda looks like a prison with a cross on top. Is it just me?

If they wanted more commercial space could they have not incorporated it into the perimeter of that prison warehouse looking Sharon, instead of dooming Katie Belles? They could have had their theater and a bustling beautiful building. The idea of The Sharon makes no sense in a Square, fully one forth of the square will now be dead ugly unused space the vast majority of the time. Will it be used daily by the residents?

Yes yes yes... the developer has a right to do whatever they want with their hard earned money, and yes they are most likely smarter than the rest of us. The question is ... is it ugly? Does it belong in a square? I would do this post as a survey if I knew how and had the rights.

PS...Why do some people never ever criticize the developer?

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/624_351/images/live/p0/1k/gk/p01kgks5.jpg

They are not God.

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