It's just another another dead black guy, cops lie on document

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And some of you wonder why black men run from cops. When you go from being arrested for sagging pants to dead with the cops falsifying their role in your death, and these reports just keep on coming out.

Whatever got his man in jail, his death was execution by cops. And those cops let him die like a dog then lied on the paperwork. If you think you handled the situation correctly, then you don't make up a different story for the paperwork.

And save your "you sound like you hate cops" reply. I hate brutal evil cops and I want them to answer for their crimes. But more importantly, I want all the white readers of this forum to maybe, just a tiny bit maybe, begin to understand the lack of trust black people have in cops and whether they will be treated fairly. I want you to understand why they might run, might be mouthy or surly, might see cops both as protectors and the enemy. It's like having an abusive parent. Most of the time he is good and takes care of you but sometimes he goes off and you never know when that is going to happen.

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I think that everyone will agree that there are bad cops, but let's not indict them all.

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I think that everyone will agree that there are bad cops, but let's not indict them all.

True. Unfortunately human nature being what it is they prefer to dwell on the sensational. And where the party, race or religion or special interest folks see an advantage, they will pump an isolated incident to have us believe what is being presented is a general condition.

We ALL know that is not the case. There are 98% of the police force dedicated to doing what is right to protect us and our property.

The focus on the 2% is alarming and disturbing. An insult to the 98%.

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If I accept your 2% bad cop number, and I will, then perhaps you can explain to me why the other 98% of good cops don't turn them in? Why the KKK members of our local police safely continued in their jobs, why no cops see anything worth reporting so often. Why the officers second to the scene stay silent when they know damn well what really happened. When they cover each others butts rather than protect and serve. If those 98% of good cops would turn in the 2% of bad cops, not just the killers, but the cops who joke about hassling black motorists, about trading sexual favors with hookers for non-arrests, who they know are on the take from criminals. As Sir Thomas More explained, Silence betokens Consent.

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I think that everyone will agree that there are bad cops, but let's not indict them all.

This is not an attempt to indict all cops. This is a failing attempt to bring to the forefront known examples of bad cops. And to try to slightly move Overton's Window toward a greater understanding of the feelings in the minority community about how police interact with people of color. They want good policing. But the choice should not be between anarchy or bad policing. And I certainly would like to see the bad cops indicted and given a fair trial.

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If I accept your 2% bad cop number, and I will, then perhaps you can explain to me why the other 98% of good cops don't turn them in? Why the KKK members of our local police safely continued in their jobs, why no cops see anything worth reporting so often. Why the officers second to the scene stay silent when they know damn well what really happened. When they cover each others butts rather than protect and serve. If those 98% of good cops would turn in the 2% of bad cops, not just the killers, but the cops who joke about hassling black motorists, about trading sexual favors with hookers for non-arrests, who they know are on the take from criminals. As Sir Thomas More explained, Silence betokens Consent.

I suggest you start a petition to shut down the police force in the neighborhood in which you live. You will feel better afterwards and set an example for others to follow who are dissatisfied like you.

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As much as I hate to say it I suspect we have a much higher percentage of officiers that should not be wearing a badge and gun then the 2% quoted earlier. That said I don't know what the answer is. Authority and power can easily change a person as can financial gain. I suspect the closer you are working to a cesspool the easier it is to fall in and Florida certainly has some. I'm 63 years old and cannot imagine talking to a police officer and saying anything but yes sir or no sir. But we have a growing percentage of our population that have no problem telling an officer where to go. You can't have that, in my humble opinion and have law and order.

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Make the number 5%.
Good cops don't turn in bad cops the same way good citizens do not speak out to or about bad citizens or how known crooked and dishonest politicians continue to get re-elected. Some even running for president!

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Given the incident cited the LOE's involved should be allowed due process. Our criminal legal system is based on a presumption of innocence and not a preponderance of evidence. This legal process protects all citizens of all colors and all occupations. The thin blue line is no different than the silence one finds within the medical community or legal profession...its basic human instinct not to want to tell on others.

If this incident is true than hopefully those LOE's responsible will be punished accordingly.

I believe it is not that these bad cops treat only blacks badly, I believe they treat many in the same manner. Look at what happens with the mentally ill these bad cops can only respond one way.

As to the rest of the story we don't know exactly what took place here but it does need a thorough investigation.

Finally being a cop is a difficult job dealing with the dregs of society and people who show disdain for the badge because they cannot accept authority of any kind.

If people of color believe that discrimination is rampant in the law enforcement field they would be wise to work within the system because rioting in the streets bodes poorly for their imagine . I see people of color on TV who are adept lawyers, professionals etc who are a good resource for working out any societal problems the black community believe exists

However black white pink you are never going to do away with a bad cop who treats all citizens badly because they either come with a hidden bad attitude or develop one as they deal with society .

Personal Best Regards:

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Given the incident cited the LOE's involved should be allowed due process. Our criminal legal system is based on a presumption of innocence and not a preponderance of evidence. This legal process protects all citizens of all colors and all occupations. The thin blue line is no different than the silence one finds within the medical community or legal profession...its basic human instinct not to want to tell on others.

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And with that lofty introduction about the fairness of our system, therein lies the problem. Read about how the legal systems works in St. Louis County.
'It's Racist As Hell': Inside St. Louis County's Predatory Night Courts | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/04/10/3643582/worse-ferguson-week-st-louis-countys-egregious-night-courts/)
Notice how the presumption of innocence becomes the presumption of he was reaching for his belt or I thought he might be armed and there is no lofty due process. I am not claiming I have a solution but I implore others to see it from the other side where you see your brothers being killed by frightened cops, or malicious cops. And as to it being human nature not to tell on others... Doctors are not legally required to tell although ethical reporting of incompetence or impairment is needed, lawyers are not (usually) legally required to tell, cops on the other hand are legally mandated to produce accurate reports of their actions and observations.

By the way, the phrase thin blue line does not refer to a wall of silence by conspiratorial cops, it refers to the cops being the barrier that separates society from criminals

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I suggest you start a petition to shut down the police force in the neighborhood in which you live. You will feel better afterwards and set an example for others to follow who are dissatisfied like you.

THis is a pathetic and predictable responose to a serious societal problem. The attitude that if you support police, or any other group, you must support them all is ridiculous. There are mostly good law enforcement people and there are bad ones, just like teachers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, managers, and on and on. Reasonable people realize that law enforcement is a necessary and welcome part of living comfortably and safely. However, reasonable people also realize that bad cops are not only a singular problem, but an infection to all law enforcement and a besmirchment to all the honorable ones. These bad cops should be recognized and eliminated from the force, and demanding they are is a benefit to not only their honorable brethren, but the public as a whole. There are racist cops just as there are racists in all walks of life, and often they go undetected, but when it escalates to violence and murder it is nothing less than lynching. The black community bears some of the responsibility for the problem, and needs to help clean up the act of the lawless among them, but lawlessness exists in every faction of society, and always will. Respect for authority, and law enforcement in particular should be observed by all, but when wrongs are committed the wrongdoers should be repudiated and punished.

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this is a pathetic and predictable responose to a serious societal problem. The attitude that if you support police, or any other group, you must support them all is ridiculous. There are mostly good law enforcement people and there are bad ones, just like teachers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, managers, and on and on. Reasonable people realize that law enforcement is a necessary and welcome part of living comfortably and safely. However, reasonable people also realize that bad cops are not only a singular problem, but an infection to all law enforcement and a besmirchment to all the honorable ones. These bad cops should be recognized and eliminated from the force, and demanding they are is a benefit to not only their honorable brethren, but the public as a whole. There are racist cops just as there are racists in all walks of life, and often they go undetected, but when it escalates to violence and murder it is nothing less than lynching. The black community bears some of the responsibility for the problem, and needs to help clean up the act of the lawless among them, but lawlessness exists in every faction of society, and always will. Respect for authority, and law enforcement in particular should be observed by all, but when wrongs are committed the wrongdoers should be repudiated and punished.

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THis is a pathetic and predictable responose to a serious societal problem. The attitude that if you support police, or any other group, you must support them all is ridiculous. There are mostly good law enforcement people and there are bad ones, just like teachers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, managers, and on and on. Reasonable people realize that law enforcement is a necessary and welcome part of living comfortably and safely. However, reasonable people also realize that bad cops are not only a singular problem, but an infection to all law enforcement and a besmirchment to all the honorable ones. These bad cops should be recognized and eliminated from the force, and demanding they are is a benefit to not only their honorable brethren, but the public as a whole. There are racist cops just as there are racists in all walks of life, and often they go undetected, but when it escalates to violence and murder it is nothing less than lynching. The black community bears some of the responsibility for the problem, and needs to help clean up the act of the lawless among them, but lawlessness exists in every faction of society, and always will. Respect for authority, and law enforcement in particular should be observed by all, but when wrongs are committed the wrongdoers should be repudiated and punished.

No, not pathetic but simply predicable and overdue.

No one is opposed to punishing genuinely bad, lawless cops but those numbers are very low. Instead, we put cops in an impossible situation to keep order in a population that simply doesn't seem to want it or be capable of doing it.

I would not blame the cops one bit if they went on "silent strike" and simply refused to engage. Holy liberals like you are ready to lynch them, like the MD State Attorney is going to do. Legally, her case and set of charges is a joke but that's what you get when you aim for "social justice" instead of justice based on law.