Daily Sun Football Article: "Love of game, life of pain"

[Villages PL]

This was on the front page of the sports section on Sunday, April 26th.

Five Villagers, all former football players, were interviewed for this article. The subheading was, "Five Villagers recall their days playing on the gridiron, and the ultimate price they continue to pay."

You might still have this news article at home. It's well worth reading. I didn't realize the extent that football players suffer a lifetime of multiple health issues. Basically, what was expressed was a fear of the future due to multiple surgeries and daily aches and pains.

Multiple concussions and the risk of dementia is a big part of it but it's not the only worry. Many former football players have had knee, ankle and foot injuries to the point where they can hardly walk.

[redwitch]

Sadly, a lot of knee and joint injuries plague most world-class and professional athletes. Football players and boxers have the added risk of severe brain issues in their future. Sad how neither the athletes nor the public are aware of these risks. Even sadder how little those who do know are willing to speak out or even care.

[CFrance]

Sadly, a lot of knee and joint injuries plague most world-class and professional athletes. Football players and boxers have the added risk of severe brain issues in their future. Sad how neither the athletes nor the public are aware of these risks. Even sadder how little those who do know are willing to speak out or even care.
It's not just football and boxing. Soccer players who use their heads to direct the ball are also experiencing concussions and ongoing problems. Especially women. There was a piece about it a year or so ago. High school girls soccer players are fogging their brains but refuse to quit the sport.

[Villages PL]

It's not just football and boxing. Soccer players who use their heads to direct the ball are also experiencing concussions and ongoing problems. Especially women. There was a piece about it a year or so ago. High school girls soccer players are fogging their brains but refuse to quit the sport.

People engage in lots of self destructive behaviors in the name of love. That was in the article's heading: Love of game, life of pain. It's all about love. You've probably heard of battered women who are always attracted to the wrong kind of guy. Or people who love to eat and consume lots of high calorie processed foods.

It's all about love and love is an emotion that often rules people's lives. That's why it's so difficult to change any of these self destructive behaviors.

[CFrance]

People engage in lots of self destructive behaviors in the name of love. That was in the article's heading: Love of game, life of pain. It's all about love. You've probably heard of battered women who are always attracted to the wrong kind of guy. Or people who love to eat and consume lots of high calorie processed foods.

It's all about love and love is an emotion that often rules people's lives. That's why it's so difficult to change any of these self destructive behaviors.
WHY does everything have to come back to food? This article was not about food.

[Villages PL]

WHY does everything have to come back to food? This article was not about food.

Well, it wasn't about soccer either. You set the stage for expanding the topic, so I followed your lead.:loco:

[CFrance]

It was about SPORTS Soccer is a SPORT. Food is not!

[Villages PL]

It was about SPORTS Soccer is a SPORT. Food is not!

But the heading made a comment about love, implying causation. So I expanded on that by giving some examples of how the emotion of love can often lead to a variety of self destructive behaviors. As a matter of fact, I said it's all about love. Notice that I didn't say it's all about food.

[CFrance]

Of course you did.

[graciegirl]

Of course you did.


C, I see it your way, and so agree and totally understand your point, and it has been awhile but I really need to say this or I'm gonna cuss.

BOY HOWDY!

[dbussone]

C, I see it your way, and so agree and totally understand your point, and it has been awhile but I really need to say this or I'm gonna cuss.

BOY HOWDY!

When one is involved in sports, moderation is a factor worthy of consideration - especially among seniors. What do you think Gracie.

[CFrance]

C, I see it your way, and so agree and totally understand your point, and it has been awhile but I really need to say this or I'm gonna cuss.

BOY HOWDY!
It has been awhile, and it conveys so much so succinctly.:smiley: (I hope I spelled that right

[Buffalo Jim]

But the heading made a comment about love, implying causation. So I expanded on that by giving some examples of how the emotion of love can often lead to a variety of self destructive behaviors. As a matter of fact, I said it's all about love. Notice that I didn't say it's all about food.


Good grief Charlie Brown --sigh................. :icon_bored::icon_bored::icon_bored:

[Buffalo Jim]

To think it was ALMOST the start of a worthwhile and interesting conversation .

[Barefoot]

Or people who love to eat and consume lots of high calorie processed foods. It's all about love and love is an emotion that often rules people's lives. That's why it's so difficult to change any of these self destructive behaviors.

This thread has really wandered off topic, but then many threads do!
Following your logic, are we supposed to get rid of all the love in our life?
Do you think too much love causes people to overeat?
Or do we all need more love in our lives in order to avoid self-destructive behaviors?

[Villages PL]

This thread has really wandered off topic, but then many threads do!
Following your logic, are we supposed to get rid of all the love in our life?
Do you think too much love causes people to overeat?
Or do we all need more love in our lives in order to avoid self-destructive behaviors?

If it's of any help, I can give more examples:

Search: "Evel Knievel dies at 69; had long been in failing health."

Search: Billionaire [daredevil] Steve Fossett dies in plane crash.

Search: Man Dies In Hotdog Eating Contest - Choked To Death.


The subject being the love of playing football and other self-destructive lifestyle behaviors.

[dbussone]

If it's of any help, I can give more examples: Search: "Evel Knievel dies at 69; had long been in failing health."

Search: Billionaire [daredevil] Steve Fossett dies in plane crash.

The subject being the love of football and other self-destructive behaviors.

How is enjoying football self destructive?

[Villages PL]

How is enjoying football self destructive?

Correction: The love of playing football, as was described in the article. (I didn't change the subject to "watching football".) :-)

[dbussone]

Correction: The love of playing football, as was described in the article. (I didn't change the subject to "watching football".) :-)

Ok, that I understand. Thanks.

[Villages PL]

Ok, that I understand. Thanks.

Yes, the act of watching football, in and of itself, is not self destructive.

[CFrance]

It is if you're doing nothing but sitting on your butt all winter watching!

[Villages PL]

Search: World-Famous Daredevil Dies During Ponytail Zip-Line Stunt Attempt - But He Didn't Fall.

And another:

Search: Acrobat falls off tight rope in death defying high wire stunt gone wrong.

A few Canadian hockey players have died from on-ice injuries.

[Barefoot]

If it's of any help, I can give more examples:
Search: "Evel Knievel dies at 69; had long been in failing health."
Search: Billionaire [daredevil] Steve Fossett dies in plane crash.
Search: Man Dies In Hotdog Eating Contest - Choked To Death.
Search: Acrobat falls off tight rope in death defying high wire stunt gone wrong.
A few Canadian hockey players have died from on-ice injuries.
:confused:

[Villages PL]

Love (and trust) of wild tigers leads to tiger attack:

Siegfried & Roy - Wikipedia

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www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/james-gandolfini-fried-food-feast-1976832

"James Gandolfini wolfed down a large fried meal washed down with at least eight alcoholic drinks just hours before he had a fatal heart attack."

[dbussone]

Love (and trust) of wild tigers leads to tiger attack:

Siegfried & Roy - Wikipedia

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www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/james-gandolfini-fried-food-feast-1976832

"James Gandolfini wolfed down a large fried meal washed down with at least eight alcoholic drinks just hours before he had a fatal heart attack."


And what does an anecdotal incident prove? A vegan might choke to death on a soy bean but I wouldn't attempt to prove a universal truth from it

[Barefoot]

And what does an anecdotal incident prove?
A vegan might choke to death on a soy bean but I wouldn't attempt to prove a universal truth from it

Your post is right on! :clap2:
However I hear that you're a known teacher's pet and therefore suspect. :confused:

[CFrance]

I wanna be teacher's pet.

[Barefoot]

I wanna be teacher's pet.

Me too. I wonder what dbussone did to earn that title? :confused:

[CFrance]

Me too. I wonder what dbussone did to earn that title? :confused:
He pobably brought apples and broccoli bunches to school.

[dbussone]

He pobably brought apples and broccoli bunches to school.

Please don't make me a suspect! My mother was a sub so I couldn't be too bad, but I was hardly a teachers pet. (but I do like apples and broccoli. Am I an undercover vegan?) 😱😱😱

[CFrance]

Please don't make me a suspect! My mother was a sub so I couldn't be too bad, but I was hardly a teachers pet. (but I do like apples and broccoli. Am I an undercover vegan?) 😱😱😱
You rascal you. We know you're the teacher's pet!

[dbussone]

You rascal you. We know you're the teacher's pet!

Ok, Ok. I admit it.

[CFrance]

Ok, Ok. I admit it.
Aha! I knew it.

[dbussone]

Aha! I knew it.

I'm so embarrassed. Now I'll have to change my nom de plume. What should I use as a new one?

[CFrance]

I'm so embarrassed. Now I'll have to change my nom de plume. What should I use as a new one?
I'll have to get with Bare on that.:)

[Villages PL]

And what does an anecdotal incident prove? A vegan might choke to death on a soy bean but I wouldn't attempt to prove a universal truth from it

What scientific studies are there to back up the following "universal truth" about eating a healthful diet: "Everything in moderation"

[Barefoot]

What scientific studies are there to back up the following "universal truth" about eating a healthful diet: "Everything in moderation"

I think you personally agree with eating "everything in moderation"; how could you not? :confused:
I think you don't trust that people recognize what moderation actually means - no extremes.
You can trust us Wrinklies, we're a pretty smart bunch. :icon_wink:

[Villages PL]

I think you personally agree with eating "everything in moderation"; how could you not? :confused:
I think you don't trust that people recognize what moderation actually means - no extremes.
You can trust us Wrinklies, we're a pretty smart bunch. :icon_wink:

Junk-food in moderation is still junk. The declaration of "moderation" doesn't stop junk-food from being junk.

[Barefoot]

Eating unhealthful junk in moderation is still junk. The declaration of "moderation" doesn't stop junk-food from being junk.

I don't understand why you feel everyone but you is eating "unhealthful junk".
Give us some credit!! Many of us make healthy choices.
What we don't do is brag about our choices, assume everyone but us is an idiot, and continually suggest people should eat whatever you eat.

[tomwed]

Maybe we could make a game out of this. Someone can pick a topic like pyramids or safety pins or Mary Tyler Moore and the rest of us can guess how many posts it will take before it gets turned into an unhealthy eating habit thread.

[dbussone]

What scientific studies are there to back up the following "universal truth" about eating a healthful diet: "Everything in moderation"

You are off topic again to attempt to prove your vegan point. You made the jump to food and James Gandolfini. All I did was respond to your non-sequitur.

[Villages PL]

I don't understand why you feel everyone but you is eating "unhealthful junk".

No, not everyone, just the majority of the U.S. population. Remember, 65% are overweight or obese. Do a search of nationwide sales figures for fast food.

Give us some credit!! Many of us make healthy choices.

I have never discredited your diet because I have no idea what you eat. I simply say I'm suspicious of people who claim to eat everything in moderation because that seems to include all forms of junk-food.


What we don't do is brag about our choices, assume everyone but us is an idiot, and continually suggest people should eat whatever you eat.


What I don't do is brag about laughing and having a circle of friends and assume that everyone who lives a healthy lifestyle is an idiot and continually suggest that people should have more fun instead of worrying about their health.

[Villages PL]

You are off topic again to attempt to prove your vegan point. You made the jump to food and James Gandolfini. All I did was respond to your non-sequitur.

Just wondering why you became scientific minded all of a sudden. That's not off topic; I never promised anything other than anecdotal examples.

[dbussone]

Just wondering why you became scientific minded all of a sudden. That's not off topic; I never promised anything other than anecdotal examples.

Having re-read what the OP said, there was no mention of food. hence you are off topic on your own topic.

[Barefoot]

Maybe we could make a game out of this. Someone can pick a topic like pyramids or safety pins or Mary Tyler Moore and the rest of us can guess how many posts it will take before it gets turned into an unhealthy eating habit thread.

Great idea. :evil6:
And we can give unhealthy prizes to the winner. :popcorn::mmmm::wine::beer3:

[dbussone]

Great idea. :evil6:
And we can give unhealthy prizes to the winner. :popcorn::mmmm::wine::beer3:

You win Bare! TaDa 🔥💀

[Polar Bear]

Maybe we could make a game out of this. Someone can pick a topic like pyramids or safety pins or Mary Tyler Moore and the rest of us can guess how many posts it will take before it gets turned into an unhealthy eating habit thread.

Regardless of topic, I'll make my guess now...

One.

[dbussone]

Regardless of topic, I'll make my guess now...

One.

Polar - you guessed that after you saw Bare's answer and that she mentioned unhealthy food. Good guess. ::jester::

[CFrance]

Regardless of topic, I'll make my guess now...

One.

:clap2::duck::clap2:

[CFrance]

No, not everyone, just the majority of the U.S. population. Remember, 65% are overweight or obese. Do a search of nationwide sales figures for fast food.



I have never discredited your diet because I have no idea what you eat. I simply say I'm suspicious of people who claim to eat everything in moderation because that seems to include all forms of junk-food.




What I don't do is brag about laughing and having a circle of friends and assume that everyone who lives a healthy lifestyle is an idiot and continually suggest that people should have more fun instead of worrying about their health.
No bragging about laughing because too busy bragging about diet. Need more laughter and less food obsession. Actually, obsess all you want--to yourself.

[Barefoot]

No, not everyone, just the majority of the U.S. population. Remember, 65% are overweight or obese. Do a search of nationwide sales figures for fast food.

BUT you aren't talking to the majority of the U.S. population when you're talking on TOTV. Remember, you're talking to some pretty savvy retired people who were smart enough to invest in The Villages. And are probably smart enough to make appropriate food choices for the life style they choose to live.

I have never discredited your diet because I have no idea what you eat. I simply say I'm suspicious of people who claim to eat everything in moderation because that seems to include all forms of junk-food.

And I'm suspicious of someone who claims to be a Vegan and then starts a thread about eating a Reuben at Arbys.

What I don't do is brag about laughing and having a circle of friends and assume that everyone who lives a healthy lifestyle is an idiot and continually suggest that people should have more fun instead of worrying about their health.

I sure have never said that anyone who lives a healthy lifestyle is an idiot. :ohdear: Those are your words, not mine.
I admire people who live a healthy lifestyle.

But you're right -- I do think that people shouldn't obsess about every morsel they eat.
I think it would be far healthier to have more fun with friends, rather than worrying obsessively about how long they will live.