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07-23-2008, 04:47 AM
I'm not sure whether this is "political discussion" or not. But here goes anyway...

Do you think ol' Boone Pickens might have a point in his TV ads?

Let's see, $700 billion a year going to the Middle East for oil. Another $100 billion or so being spent each year on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (a large chunk of which is aid given to those countries).

Now the announcement that our government might have to spend $100 billion to bail out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. By the way, have you thought about that number? If an "average" mortgage loan is say, $150,000, that means the underlying collateral on 667,000 loans is worth nothing and our government will in essence pay off the loans. Just to put that in scale--in 2000 Chicago had 1,062,000 households. So Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae made enough worthless loans to have housed two-thirds of the entire population of Chicago. That's kind of unbelievable, isn't it?

But back to Boone. Check out his explanation of a plan <http://www.pickensplan.com/> Might one expect that ol' Boone owns some energy companies involved in something other than oil--like wind generation equipment? Probably so. But that doesn't make his argument wrong. The bottom line is that the U.S. currently has a national debt of $9.523 trillion dollars. (That's 31,282 for every U.S. citizen.) If Pickens' projections are correct and our national debt holds steady at its current level, we will increase that amount by another $7 triilion dollars by sending the money to the Middle East to pay for the oil we consume. As Pickens says in his TV ads, this is the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world.

You don't have to accept Pickens' plan to generate a lot of power with wind farms. But I think it's fair to accept his thesis that we need political leadership and will to recognize and act on the serious fiscal problems resulting from our reliance on foreign oil. There has been no action on an energy policy/plan whatsoever for at least the last four Presidential terms, maybe longer. As Pickens says, this is the number one problem facing the country by far. It's easy to conclude, as he has, that unless this transfer of wealth is stemmed, there's no point even thinking about trying to solve the problems of healthcare, education, social security, etc. because the U.S. economy simply won't be able to generate enough money to pay for needed improvements.

Last time I looked, neither of the candidates for President have much of a plan to address this issue. And the candidates for the Senate and House? Forget it.

Maybe we need to begin thinking about it.

Guest
07-23-2008, 09:06 AM
As presented in other energy independence threads, this is the most significant problem facing the longevity of life here in the USA as we know and enjoy it today.

There are those politicians who continue to be dedicated to the short term solution of yet another rebate to ease the "pain at the pump". The pain at the pump is only a symptom as it has always been. We need to let our lawmakers know and understand that we can not and will not allow another 30+ years go by doing nothing.

The pain at the pump will ease....already is beginning...for what ever the lamest of reasons in today's events. The price of oil will continue it's yo-yoing as long as a gun is pointed in the wrong direction in the Middle East or a threat of inclement weather in our gulf. However, OPEC will continue to play the USA as it has since the 70's by manipulating price. There is now talk of below $100 per barrel oil in the not too distant future. Does this cycle appear familiar. Yes it is with one very large difference. Oil consumption by China, India and other developing nations is significantly higher with a significant growth rate. That is not going to go away and could be considered the paradigm shift of the oil markets. That coupled with a US policy of doing nothing has only one end result....

For these reasons it is imperative to tell our lawmakers their so called objective of easing the pain at the pump is just what it has always been...political schmoozing accomplishing nothing. We must continue to demand actions be set in motion for energy independence, even if the price of oil/gasoline goes back to $2 (or even less). The looming crisis IS NOT going to go away when the pain at the pump eases. And whether certain politicians like it or not, there just has to be an effort mounted EVEN IF IT MEANS NO IMPACT ON THE SHORT TERM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have talked on other threads regarding the need to be in contact with both the local and federal lawmakers. I personally am committed to keep at family and friends until such time a ground swell is formed in this country.

The politicians are quick to go for the short term fix at the pump because they know how fickle their constituency is. They count on the fact when the pain at the pump goes away everybody will get back in their "ah, life is good again" mode AND WIND UP DOING NOTHING!!!!! AGAIN!!!!

We just cannot let that happen. If the candidates can raise millions of dollars to promote their personal agendas for office....why can't the ground swell in America raise enough $$$ to get their message out. There just has to be a significant effort, diligent and ongoing if we are to have any hope of succeeding in energy independence.

Remember Rosie the riveter days? Remember when the manufacturing in our factories was converted to make guns, tanks, airplanes, et al. The threat today is greater than what existed when those actions were taken.....a country united and dedicated to a purpose.

Hopefully the above is not too tedious, but it cannot be addressed to aggressively!

BTK