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hulahips
05-05-2015, 07:19 AM
The Daily Sun has gotten so bad I can't even find any news in it? Pages of advertisements (especially their club restaurants) lots of useless info We used to enjoy it but it looks like we are getting nothing for our money. Think its time to cancel subscription

Sandtrap328
05-05-2015, 07:23 AM
For less than 20 cents a day, it gives us the crossword puzzle, the letters to the editor, who is at the squares, and a sense of community. not much for the news - that is why we have the online national papers.

I enjoy The Daily Sun.

Gerald
05-05-2015, 07:31 AM
I call it the happy paper. a few snips and you can save a few dollars at a few places. As already stated you can find out what is going on in the villages. If you want other news try T.V. for your who was killed, who was hurt, etc.

sunnyatlast
05-05-2015, 07:42 AM
For national and international news, there are 3,000+ newspapers online....

United States Newspapers (http://www.50states.com/news/#.VUi5dCe9KK1)

dewilson58
05-05-2015, 07:51 AM
By the time it's printed on paper, it's not news......it's olds.

leftyf
05-05-2015, 07:52 AM
We keep it only because the wife likes the coupons and store sale adds.

Cedwards38
05-05-2015, 07:59 AM
I wish it were a little less partisan and included some national columnists with diverse viewpoints, but overall I like what I get with the paper.

MikeV
05-05-2015, 08:00 AM
I did not renew this year because the paper did not do anything for us except fill the recycling bin.

Bogie Shooter
05-05-2015, 08:20 AM
The Daily Sun has gotten so bad I can't even find any news in it? Pages of advertisements (especially their club restaurants) lots of useless info We used to enjoy it but it looks like we are getting nothing for our money. Think its time to cancel subscription

Is this a threat or are you actually going to cancel?

SALYBOW
05-05-2015, 08:42 AM
I call it the happy paper. a few snips and you can save a few dollars at a few places. As already stated you can find out what is going on in the villages. If you want other news try T.V. for your who was killed, who was hurt, etc.

I call it The Propaganda paper. Everything is so exciting and great
:MOJE_whot:

NYGUY
05-05-2015, 08:54 AM
I think if you accept it for what it is and skip the news (which should be easy since there isn't any) and use it as a guide to what is going on it's not bad and the price is right.

2BNTV
05-05-2015, 09:08 AM
As the kids say, "it is, what it is".

Good for what's happening around TV and to have breakfast with.

I for one don't want to hear who killed who, who raped who, and all the bad stuff that happens in the community.

There is always television news and the internet to keep informed.

For what it cost, (17 cents per issue delivered to my door), it's worth it to me. :smiley:

hulahips
05-05-2015, 09:15 AM
Why are they called Newspapers??

LndLocked
05-05-2015, 09:28 AM
IN the past I have been VERY critical of the Daily Sun. Between it's blatant politcal leanings, and being little more than a de facto marketing arm for "The Developer" ... IMO it was a joke in terms of being a "news" paper

HOWEVER ..... with the change of ownership / publisher I feel that it has vastly improved. They have started to pick up AP articles that offer more in depth information on topical subjects and I like the new lay out format.

Yes it does have a LARGE amount of ads. That is a function of it's readership demographics (that still tend to read a daily publication) and that it's overwhelming circulation numbers are from subscriptions and not "daily sales" ( coin operated boxes and sales in retail locations). The % of circulation that is from "papers in the driveway" is HIGHLY prized in the newspaper ad sales world.

Yes, it does still have a strong political basis, which is also a demographic factor.

But overall .... IMO a much much better paper than before.

jojo
05-05-2015, 09:33 AM
IN the past I have been VERY critical of the Daily Sun. Between it's blatant politcal leanings, and being little more than a de facto marketing arm for "The Developer" ... IMO it was a joke in terms of being a "news" paper

HOWEVER ..... with the change of ownership / publisher I feel that it has vastly improved. They have started to pick up AP articles that offer more in depth information on topical subjects and I like the new lay out format.

Yes it does have a LARGE amount of ads. That is a function of it's readership demographics (that still tend to read a daily publication) and that it's overwhelming circulation numbers are from subscriptions and not "daily sales" ( coin operated boxes and sales in retail locations). The % of circulation that is from "papers in the driveway" is HIGHLY prized in the newspaper ad sales world.

Yes, it does still have a strong political basis, which is also a demographic factor.

But overall .... IMO a much much better paper than before.

Agree.

The Buckeyes
05-05-2015, 09:33 AM
And, if the Daly Sun closed it's doors today....you would have 35 pages on a totv thread complaining that we no longer have the daily sun.

hulahips
05-05-2015, 09:45 AM
I always enjoyed the paper in the past. I am one who does like reading the news so as to keep informed on what is happening in the world. We should call it the bubble flyer now since it basically consists of ads, what happened last week in the villages, obits, dear Annie , cartoons and a puzzle. And for sure since I am married to a sports nut, he said they constantly get the villages softball stats wrong. It is obviously a rag written by high school kids. It does fill up the recycle bin nicely as one poster stated. The Daily sun was much better a yr or so ago

Thnonne
05-05-2015, 10:33 AM
Once again if you don't like it don't buy it! The price is right and it does provide a service to the villagers who enjoy its contents. It is not going to change for a few malcontents if it has a healthy number of readers.

Polar Bear
05-05-2015, 10:41 AM
I'm always amazed at those who say it has no news...none at all.

I accept it for what it is and enjoy it. I like knowing what's going on in TV. I don't mind wading through the ads. And if I browse through the front page section, I get a good feel for the news of the day...or at least yesterday. :)

But to say it has no news at all? We must be reading different papers.

(And if you're concerned about bias, you can always go to one of the major television news channels for the unbiased news, right?)

Carla B
05-05-2015, 11:59 AM
Love the thick pages of the "Homes for Sale" insert. I set hot pans from the oven on them.

rubicon
05-05-2015, 12:03 PM
The Daily Sun does meet many diverse needs here for residents. As other posters have said there are many online papers. In our household we subscribe to the Daily Sun and two other newspapers. Each fulfills our collective needs. I know my wife especially likes the Daily Sun

I believe the new owners are doing much to be creative, informative and resourceful and I applaud their efforts.

I believe some posters are being overly critical of the paper being partisan. I have watch their concerted to be fair and balanced with editorials, columnist and readers who contribute with their opinions.

Please do not be too quick to dismiss the papers benefits, contributions and efforts to make this a united community


Personal Best Regards:

SouthOfTheBorder
05-05-2015, 12:52 PM
The Villages Daily Sun is my Home Town newspaper.

I depend on it for keeping me up to date on what is happening in my home town. That can include where to go, what to do and what is happening around me. It regularly provides in-depth articles on a wide range of subjects. These articles are not always pertinent to the current 24 news cycle but their subject matter doesn't require an immediate news cycle.

I think is does an outstanding job filling it's purpose (mission).

To compare TVDS to NYT/WSJ-like newspapers is is like comparing apples and oranges.

TVDS does not pretend or try to replace other newspapers like NYT or WSJ.

For what it's worth, I think all the "worldly newspapers" do a miserable job of covering local news/activities/ads for The Villages and I cannot depend on them at all.

Neither those worldly papers, or my home town paper, have the same purpose and neither tries to be everything for everyone.

There are very few newspapers in the world that are growing, both in $$ and circulation, like my home town paper.

I enjoy reading it every day, sometimes just skimming, other times from cover to cover.

Is it my only source of news? Of course not.

I would be surprised if any resident in TV, who moved from an metropolitan area the size of TV enjoyed a daily newspaper that had the home town quality/coverage of news that TVDS provides.

I understand people may not like the content of TVDS. However using TVDS's lack of in-depth national/world coverage as their reason for trying to dismiss it as a poorly conceived/managed/operated newspaper shows a weak understanding of the purpose of my home town newspaper.

:thumbup:

Don

VillagesFlorida
05-05-2015, 04:09 PM
The Daily Sun has gotten so bad I can't even find any news in it? Pages of advertisements (especially their club restaurants) lots of useless info We used to enjoy it but it looks like we are getting nothing for our money. Think its time to cancel subscription

A week or so ago I picked up the Daily Sun out of my driveway and immediately saw a big front-page headline pertaining to executions. This newspaper seems to delight in printing article after article about how the state of Florida kills its death row prisoners. I read my paper while I have breakfast and this bit of news didn't settle well with me at all. The Villages is an upbeat happy place to live. Knowing the details on how lethal drugs are administered, how they fail and what the inmate goes through when that happens is not news I need to read while I am trying to enjoy my first meal of the day. It is bad enough that the editors feel that we want to know the juicy details of these killings. What is next, an internet link so we can all see an ISIS beheading? I like The Daily Sun but these articles offend me as a human being who does not believe in killings of humans for any reasons. In my mind it is nothing more than another form of violence. If they feel they absolutely have to bombard us with this "news" it would be nice if they relegated it to a blip of an article, placed somewhere far away from the front page.

Villager Joyce
05-05-2015, 04:26 PM
I love living in America. If you want to get the Daily Sun, get it. If you don't, don't. If you want the New York Times, get it. If you don't, don't. Etc. What do you hope to accomplish with this thread? Gracie, it is time to come back. I need your posts.

folkh
05-05-2015, 04:36 PM
As the kids say, "it is, what it is".

Good for what's happening around TV and to have breakfast with.

I for one don't want to hear who killed who, who raped who, and all the bad stuff that happens in the community.

There is always television news and the internet to keep informed.

For what it cost, (17 cents per issue delivered to my door), it's worth it to me. :smiley:

2BNTV, I could not agree more if someone wants to hear bad news there are many outlets for that. Reading a happy paper is quite delightful!!:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

folkh
05-05-2015, 04:40 PM
The Villages Daily Sun is my Home Town newspaper.

I depend on it for keeping me up to date on what is happening in my home town. That can include where to go, what to do and what is happening around me. It regularly provides in-depth articles on a wide range of subjects. These articles are not always pertinent to the current 24 news cycle but their subject matter doesn't require an immediate news cycle.

I think is does an outstanding job filling it's purpose (mission).

To compare TVDS to NYT/WSJ-like newspapers is is like comparing apples and oranges.

TVDS does not pretend or try to replace other newspapers like NYT or WSJ.

For what it's worth, I think all the "worldly newspapers" do a miserable job of covering local news/activities/ads for The Villages and I cannot depend on them at all.

Neither those worldly papers, or my home town paper, have the same purpose and neither tries to be everything for everyone.

There are very few newspapers in the world that are growing, both in $$ and circulation, like my home town paper.

I enjoy reading it every day, sometimes just skimming, other times from cover to cover.

Is it my only source of news? Of course not.

I would be surprised if any resident in TV, who moved from an metropolitan area the size of TV enjoyed a daily newspaper that had the home town quality/coverage of news that TVDS provides.

I understand people may not like the content of TVDS. However using TVDS's lack of in-depth national/world coverage as their reason for trying to dismiss it as a poorly conceived/managed/operated newspaper shows a weak understanding of the purpose of my home town newspaper.

:thumbup:

Don

Well said!!!:clap2::clap2::clap2:

outlaw
05-05-2015, 05:46 PM
A week or so ago I picked up the Daily Sun out of my driveway and immediately saw a big front-page headline pertaining to executions. This newspaper seems to delight in printing article after article about how the state of Florida kills its death row prisoners. I read my paper while I have breakfast and this bit of news didn't settle well with me at all. The Villages is an upbeat happy place to live. Knowing the details on how lethal drugs are administered, how they fail and what the inmate goes through when that happens is not news I need to read while I am trying to enjoy my first meal of the day. It is bad enough that the editors feel that we want to know the juicy details of these killings. What is next, an internet link so we can all see an ISIS beheading? I like The Daily Sun but these articles offend me as a human being who does not believe in killings of humans for any reasons. In my mind it is nothing more than another form of violence. If they feel they absolutely have to bombard us with this "news" it would be nice if they relegated it to a blip of an article, placed somewhere far away from the front page.

Did you think about turning the page? Just sayin'.

billethkid
05-05-2015, 06:14 PM
The Daily Sun is a hometown/small town paper for the promotion of TV and informing it's residents in the process.

National news in print is yesterday's news.

I scan the Daily Sun to see what is going on or happened or happening. I do not even bother with outside TV news as I have already read it the day before....somewhere.

And I do not look at the advertisements so they don't bother me.

buzzy
05-05-2015, 06:19 PM
I get the DS for the Friday Wheels section.

Mr.Big
05-05-2015, 06:41 PM
When I am in TV, I really don't care about what is going on around the world. TV is my world!

Paper1
05-05-2015, 07:19 PM
The Daily Sun has gotten so bad I can't even find any news in it? Pages of advertisements (especially their club restaurants) lots of useless info We used to enjoy it but it looks like we are getting nothing for our money. Think its time to cancel subscription
Advertisements are why this paper is only $1.00 a week. I get my news online as it is much more current. I do agree with you it is not the NY Times but a little good news never hurt anyone. There is plenty of bad out there if you look just a little.

dbussone
05-05-2015, 08:32 PM
Advertisements are why this paper is only $1.00 a week. I get my news online as it is much more current. I do agree with you it is not the NY Times but a little good news never hurt anyone. There is plenty of bad out there if you look just a little.

I can think of several papers I would want before the NYT. And I read the hard copy DS, as well as about 6 news sources/papers on my iPad every day.

Chi-Town
05-05-2015, 08:42 PM
A week or so ago I picked up the Daily Sun out of my driveway and immediately saw a big front-page headline pertaining to executions. This newspaper seems to delight in printing article after article about how the state of Florida kills its death row prisoners. I read my paper while I have breakfast and this bit of news didn't settle well with me at all. The Villages is an upbeat happy place to live. Knowing the details on how lethal drugs are administered, how they fail and what the inmate goes through when that happens is not news I need to read while I am trying to enjoy my first meal of the day. It is bad enough that the editors feel that we want to know the juicy details of these killings. What is next, an internet link so we can all see an ISIS beheading? I like The Daily Sun but these articles offend me as a human being who does not believe in killings of humans for any reasons. In my mind it is nothing more than another form of violence. If they feel they absolutely have to bombard us with this "news" it would be nice if they relegated it to a blip of an article, placed somewhere far away from the front page.

I was surprised at that front page. I couldn't reconcile it with Florida's Friendliest Hometown. So I turned on Wesh 2 News.

circletrack
05-05-2015, 08:43 PM
The folks saying that the paper has no news ...... Are you skipping the front page A section? It's filled with national and international news every day from Associated Press reporters.

Once you get past that and Sports, then the paper is basically all Villages news.

Are we not getting the same paper??

circletrack
05-05-2015, 08:47 PM
Also a tip for some:

If you're really into reading about the DUIs, drugs, robberies, car accidents etc. look inside the Local section. The day's police news is in there.

Or look at the online paper. That makes up most of their daily report.

NYGUY
05-05-2015, 09:22 PM
The folks saying that the paper has no news ...... Are you skipping the front page A section? It's filled with national and international news every day from Associated Press reporters.

An interesting project would be for someone (anyone) to post a new thread every morning about what they think about that day's page 1A (only) and then see what others think. The next day a new thread is started. What do you think?

Loudoll
05-05-2015, 10:09 PM
I love the Sun!

Barefoot
05-05-2015, 10:33 PM
And, if the Daly Sun closed it's doors today....you would have 35 pages on a totv thread complaining that we no longer have the daily sun.

So true!!!

Bay Kid
05-06-2015, 05:57 AM
Nice little paper with lots of good local news! If you don't like it cancel, don't complain and run it down. Just cancel and move on.

Grandfinch
05-06-2015, 06:00 AM
I like the Sun. It is a way to have a cup of coffee without all the negative things going on around us first thing in the morning. At my age and physical condition, their is little I can do to change the world other than voice my opinion at the polls, and so I put my faith in the many services like police, hospitals, fire dept and more to protects me. The Sun is doing exactly what a retirement community morning paper should do. There are multiple sources for enjoying negative news reports.

looneycat
05-06-2015, 07:09 AM
The Villages Daily Sun is my Home Town newspaper.


I understand people may not like the content of TVDS. However using TVDS's lack of in-depth national/world coverage as their reason for trying to dismiss it as a poorly conceived/managed/operated newspaper shows a weak understanding of the purpose of my home town newspaper.

:thumbup:

Don
absolutely!
anyone who reads it should immediately recognize it's value as a local organ dedicated more to current villages events. if you expected more, well, after reading it once you should have known what it was, why did the OP subscribe to begin with?

sunnyatlast
05-06-2015, 07:43 AM
As Rubicon said, the Daily Sun helps to bind the community together, and I think in that, they do an excellent job.

Judith Ann
05-08-2015, 10:09 AM
We LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the Daily Sun!!! It is one of our favorite parts of being back in The Villages each time we arrive.

rubicon
05-08-2015, 11:36 AM
I like the Sun. It is a way to have a cup of coffee without all the negative things going on around us first thing in the morning. At my age and physical condition, their is little I can do to change the world other than voice my opinion at the polls, and so I put my faith in the many services like police, hospitals, fire dept and more to protects me. The Sun is doing exactly what a retirement community morning paper should do. There are multiple sources for enjoying negative news reports.

A week or so ago I picked up the Daily Sun out of my driveway and immediately saw a big front-page headline pertaining to executions. This newspaper seems to delight in printing article after article about how the state of Florida kills its death row prisoners. I read my paper while I have breakfast and this bit of news didn't settle well with me at all. The Villages is an upbeat happy place to live. Knowing the details on how lethal drugs are administered, how they fail and what the inmate goes through when that happens is not news I need to read while I am trying to enjoy my first meal of the day. It is bad enough that the editors feel that we want to know the juicy details of these killings. What is next, an internet link so we can all see an ISIS beheading? I like The Daily Sun but these articles offend me as a human being who does not believe in killings of humans for any reasons. In my mind it is nothing more than another form of violence. If they feel they absolutely have to bombard us with this "news" it would be nice if they relegated it to a blip of an article, placed somewhere far away from the front page.

grandfinch and villages florida:

You are kind hearts and your concerns are well appreciated. However in today's technologically advanced 24/7 hyperbolic information environment it is near impossible to avoid being confronted with unwanted news.

I have tried to avoid speeches or events involving people whose name alone provoke me but alas something or someone will bring it to my attention

I thought about becoming a hermit but I suspect my wife wouldn't be too obliging?....maybe its hubris on my part and she would?;)

We need people like you in the world because you remind us of the importance of humanity and civility.

Personal Best Regards:

joldnol
05-08-2015, 03:52 PM
I love the Daily Sun since it's almost free.
Great TV news and love that the real news (AP) contradicts the op-ed page daily. I have online subscriptions to real papers (Fla Times Union and O-town Sentinal) for real news

joldnol
05-08-2015, 03:56 PM
The folks saying that the paper has no news ...... Are you skipping the front page A section? It's filled with national and international news every day from Associated Press reporters.

Once you get past that and Sports, then the paper is basically all Villages news.

Are we not getting the same paper??

The sports section stinks.....one would think we live in Detroit, Boston or Cleveland based on their coverage instead of FLA. The local columnists are terrible too, a perfect example was the column yesterday trashing the TPC.

Bogie Shooter
05-08-2015, 04:10 PM
The sports section stinks.....one would think we live in Detroit, Boston or Cleveland based on their coverage instead of FLA. The local columnists are terrible too, a perfect example was the column yesterday trashing the TPC.

I think Steve Trivett does a great job. Its just his opinion..............kinda like your "The local columnists are terrible too.........."

joldnol
05-08-2015, 04:44 PM
I think Steve Trivett does a great job. Its just his opinion..............kinda like your "The local columnists are terrible too.........."

but I'm not paid for mine. He is terrible (there another freebie) and don't get me started on their Big Ten shilling

dbussone
05-08-2015, 04:54 PM
but I'm not paid for mine. He is terrible (there another freebie) and don't get me started on their Big Ten shilling

Why do you think he is paid? Maybe he loves his job so much he volunteers. ::jester::

Shimpy
05-08-2015, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't give it up because I enjoy reading it with my breakfast as long as you understand it is a rah-rah The Villages.
Once they had a promotion about a sidewalk sale in Colony. I was there and saw a couple stores have a rack of clothing that they couldn't sell on the sidewalk and maybe 6 customers looking at it. These clothes are either in sizes that very few people can wear or just too ugly to want to wear. The
paper the next day reported a huge success with crowds. Huh?
The weather forecasting is a joke as is most weather forecasting. If we have a rainy day you can bet that the newspaper will have on the front page that rain didn't stop Villagers from having a great day.

mikeandnancy1112
05-08-2015, 05:49 PM
What is wrong with you people? So what if the Daily Sun is not the best newspaper in the world. It is ours! The staff does a wonderful job and we all need to appreciate what TV offers us!

dbussone
05-08-2015, 05:58 PM
What is wrong with you people? So what if the Daily Sun is not the best newspaper in the world. It is ours! The staff does a wonderful job and we all need to appreciate what TV offers us!

Amen.

Polar Bear
05-08-2015, 05:59 PM
...The local columnists are terrible too, a perfect example was the column yesterday trashing the TPC.

The opinion article I read said that the TPC shouldn't be a major. Solid article IMHO.

Bogie Shooter
05-08-2015, 06:21 PM
but I'm not paid for mine. He is terrible (there another freebie) and don't get me started on their Big Ten shilling

Who said anything about the Big Ten?

outlaw
05-11-2015, 03:09 PM
What do you want for 20 cents per day?

tomwed
05-11-2015, 04:51 PM
What do you want for 20 cents per day?
You're right.
Just another tempest in the teapot brewing.

Radioman41
05-11-2015, 06:16 PM
We thoroughly enjoy the Daily Sun. It does a great job covering The Villages. There are numerous news sites in the internet to research news and opinions.

Packer Fan
05-11-2015, 06:54 PM
As the kids say, "it is, what it is".

Good for what's happening around TV and to have breakfast with.

I for one don't want to hear who killed who, who raped who, and all the bad stuff that happens in the community.

There is always television news and the internet to keep informed.

For what it cost, (17 cents per issue delivered to my door), it's worth it to me. :smiley:

Amen, I was waiting for someone to say that!!! I don't watch the "real" news - it is all biased to the left, it is all sensationalized to get you to watch, it is all negative, and most of it doesn't really affect you. The Daily sun is positive, leans the correct way, and is informative.

Packer Fan
05-11-2015, 07:33 PM
I love the Daily Sun since it's almost free.
Great TV news and love that the real news (AP) contradicts the op-ed page daily. I have online subscriptions to real papers (Fla Times Union and O-town Sentinal) for real news

The AP is not real news... you have to be kidding. It is interesting to me what some people call real. It is all supported by advertising and sensationalized.
What is worse, is the "main stream media" is so biased it is sickening

Mleeja
05-11-2015, 08:51 PM
This topic is very simple. If you do not like the Daily Sun, don't subscribe. No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to read it!

Go-Bucks!
05-12-2015, 12:40 PM
When I was doing the LPP recently, I read the Daily Sun every morning and really enjoyed it. Gave me a quick, concise list of the daily activities, movies and entertainment. Also enjoyed the local TV "news."

For us who are looking for homes, it provided plenty of listings to go look at. I agree with others that I can read or see all the bad news I want on television or the Internet.

justjim
05-12-2015, 02:46 PM
For the most part I like the sports page, it is usually pretty good. I am use to a newspaper that prints "both political columnist" but It's their paper so they can print what they please. For the local information, I keep it and the price is right too.

Warren Kiefer
05-12-2015, 08:12 PM
the daily sun has gotten so bad i can't even find any news in it? Pages of advertisements (especially their club restaurants) lots of useless info we used to enjoy it but it looks like we are getting nothing for our money. Think its time to cancel subscription

i totally agree. I call it my five minute newspaper. That is how long it takes be to go thru a entire edition.

graciegirl
05-12-2015, 08:16 PM
i totally agree. I call it my five minute newspaper. That is how long it takes be to go thru a entire edition.

Come on now. It is the editorial page that you don't like. I like that part just fine, as the majority of villagers do.

Justus
05-12-2015, 08:56 PM
The AP is not real news... you have to be kidding. It is interesting to me what some people call real. It is all supported by advertising and sensationalized.
What is worse, is the "main stream media" is so biased it is sickening

AMEN!!! My sentiments exactly!

circletrack
05-12-2015, 10:28 PM
The AP is not real news... you have to be kidding. It is interesting to me what some people call real. It is all supported by advertising and sensationalized.
What is worse, is the "main stream media" is so biased it is sickening

The AP is a national wire service, they don't run their own newspaper. So no, they aren't supported by advertising. They are supported by the fees they charge newspapers to print their wire content.

In this case, the Sun pays them to use AP content to fill up the inside of their A news section. Which apparently many people in this thread somehow miss every day because it is filled with national and world NEWS.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Now as far as bias and sensationalism, well obviously you are free to form your own opinion on that.

Overall, I think they tend to lean left.

ladila2
05-29-2015, 08:55 AM
20 cents/day......not anymore!

graciegirl
05-29-2015, 09:37 AM
The AP is a national wire service, they don't run their own newspaper. So no, they aren't supported by advertising. They are supported by the fees they charge newspapers to print their wire content.

In this case, the Sun pays them to use AP content to fill up the inside of their A news section. Which apparently many people in this thread somehow miss every day because it is filled with national and world NEWS.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Now as far as bias and sensationalism, well obviously you are free to form your own opinion on that.

Overall, I think they tend to lean left.

The SUN??????

Oh you meant the Associated Press wire content. Whew!

Warren Kiefer
05-29-2015, 12:42 PM
The Daily Sun has gotten so bad I can't even find any news in it? Pages of advertisements (especially their club restaurants) lots of useless info We used to enjoy it but it looks like we are getting nothing for our money. Think its time to cancel subscription

Good luck, I posted nearly the same moment a month ago and the attacks began immediately. I call the Daily Sun my 5 minute newspaper. this is how long it takes me to go from front page to the last page. I do agree with you 100%.

Bogie Shooter
05-29-2015, 12:46 PM
The Daily Sun has gotten so bad I can't even find any news in it? Pages of advertisements (especially their club restaurants) lots of useless info We used to enjoy it but it looks like we are getting nothing for our money. Think its time to cancel subscription

Did you cancel yet?

graciegirl
05-29-2015, 12:47 PM
Good luck, I posted nearly the same moment a month ago and the attacks began immediately. I call the Daily Sun my 5 minute newspaper. this is how long it takes me to go from front page to the last page. I do agree with you 100%.

You repeated what you said and I will repeat my response to it;


Come on now. It is the editorial page that you don't like. I like that part just fine, as the majority of villagers do.

Barefoot
05-29-2015, 01:15 PM
Most people find some value in receiving the daily paper, even if it's just for coupons.
If you don't like receiving the paper, it's easy to pick up the phone and cancel your subscription.

gatherer47
05-29-2015, 04:11 PM
I agree it doesn't take long to read it-but I enjoy it! The subscription price is a bargain!

Mleeja
05-29-2015, 04:53 PM
Is there better news papers than the Daily Sun? Probably. Is there a better news paper for The Villages? I doubt it. I enjoy reading the Daily Sun. If you want hard news, go online or watch any of the local news stations.

As many have said before me, if you don't like it, don't read it... That seems pretty simple...

cquick
05-29-2015, 05:38 PM
I like the Daily Sun.....not only the word puzzles, comics and Dear Annie.

I think they put a lot of local "smalltown" news in the paper. It feels like a real hometown newspaper. And there's national and state news too.

Justus
05-29-2015, 08:21 PM
The AP is a national wire service, they don't run their own newspaper. So no, they aren't supported by advertising. They are supported by the fees they charge newspapers to print their wire content.

In this case, the Sun pays them to use AP content to fill up the inside of their A news section. Which apparently many people in this thread somehow miss every day because it is filled with national and world NEWS.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Now as far as bias and sensationalism, well obviously you are free to form your own opinion on that.

Overall, I think they tend to lean left.

You bring up two very good points...one that AP is only a source The Sun uses to fill space...and secondly, that AP is, and always has been, left-leaning. We take every AP article with a huge grain of salt, then research those topics through credible news sources to discover the truth.

Polar Bear
05-29-2015, 08:35 PM
...We take every AP article with a huge grain of salt, then research those topics through credible news sources to discover the truth.

Would you divulge what you consider to be your credible news sources? (Honest question...no sarcasm intended. I agree about AP.)

Justus
05-29-2015, 08:36 PM
Did you cancel yet?

That's what I want to know...

Justus
05-29-2015, 08:43 PM
Would you divulge what you consider to be your credible news sources? (Honest question...no sarcasm intended. I agree about AP.)

What I will divulge is that it is NOT ABC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, or any of the so-called main-stream media. Other than the WSJ, Washington Times, Orange County Register, FOX News, Powerline and a few others, the agendas are clear and unambiguous.

joldnol
05-29-2015, 08:52 PM
What I will divulge is that it is NOT ABC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, or any of the so-called main-stream media. Other than the WSJ, Washington Times, Orange County Register, FOX News, Powerline and a few others, the agendas are clear and unambiguous.

And they are as biased as the ones you mentioned first with Fox being highly inaccurate to boot

Justus
05-29-2015, 09:00 PM
And they are as biased as the ones you mentioned first with Fox being highly inaccurate to boot

I thought that might be your response.

Big O
05-29-2015, 09:02 PM
And they are as biased as the ones you mentioned first with Fox being highly inaccurate to boot

You mean that they don't agree with you....

manaboutown
05-29-2015, 11:47 PM
What I will divulge is that it is NOT ABC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, or any of the so-called main-stream media. Other than the WSJ, Washington Times, Orange County Register, FOX News, Powerline and a few others, the agendas are clear and unambiguous.

You nailed it. I go to FOX, the WSJ, the OC Register and a few other sources for FACTS, the mainstream media being little more than heavily biased spin generating propaganda organs which rarely fully present the facts.

PaPaLarry
05-30-2015, 05:46 AM
Nothing like getting up in morning, and strolling out to driveway to pick up The Daily Sun!!! I can read about my fellow "Villagers" and their accomplishments, and see plenty of smiley faces of people enjoying living in The Villages. Sports page is great, and sports writers are great. Plenty of local news to be read, and photos of water fowl etc. Local writers have good stories about "us" (Villagers) It's my "Daily Sunshine" paper. :)

graciegirl
05-30-2015, 06:35 AM
Nothing like getting up in morning, and strolling out to driveway to pick up The Daily Sun!!! I can read about my fellow "Villagers" and their accomplishments, and see plenty of smiley faces of people enjoying living in The Villages. Sports page is great, and sports writers are great. Plenty of local news to be read, and photos of water fowl etc. Local writers have good stories about "us" (Villagers) It's my "Daily Sunshine" paper. :)


I just love you PapaLarry. Maybe because we are often on the same page but you are much kinder and far more diplomatic. Your attitude and your posts are helpful and you don't hold back if you feel strongly about something.

Life becomes increasingly short and I am of the philosophy that if you see something good or someone good tell them.

It is a foggy beginning to another beautiful day in The Villages.

But I am getting MORE worried about Villages Pl.

Cedwards38
05-30-2015, 07:37 AM
For what it costs, which is incredibly reasonable, I think The Daily Sun does an outstanding job for a community like this. It gives a little state and national news and keeps us well informed about what's going on in The Villages. I also get the Orlando Sentinel a couple of days a week for my print version of more news, and I keep up with the world with NPR and CNN. I do wish the Sun were less politically partisan and occasionally included a column by someone who is not a diehard conservative (read liberal), but that's really a small complaint. It would be nice to get some opposing opinions too once in a while for those of us who lean in that direction. :-)

Barefoot
05-30-2015, 08:45 AM
I do wish the Sun were less politically partisan and occasionally included a column by someone who is not a diehard conservative (read liberal), but that's really a small complaint. It would be nice to get some opposing opinions too once in a while for those of us who lean in that direction. :-)

Don't lean too far, or you'll find yourself in the Political Forum. :icon_wink:

Warren Kiefer
05-30-2015, 10:18 AM
Come on now. It is the editorial page that you don't like. I like that part just fine, as the majority of villagers do.

What editorial page ?? Letters to the editor and a lot of guest writers yes. But every featured writer follows the bias of the paper itself.

Mleeja
05-30-2015, 11:29 AM
What editorial page ?? Letters to the editor and a lot of guest writers yes. But every featured writer follows the bias of the paper itself.

Have you read the New York Times lately? This is the definition of biased journalism. I think the Daily Sun has a ways to go to approach this level. All news services are biased. It is just a matter of degree.

CFrance
05-30-2015, 11:48 AM
Don't lean too far, or you'll find yourself in the Political Forum. :icon_wink:

And if you lean too far left, you're likely to fall off the edge of TV! (Oh, NO, I should just erase this myself now! I know it' going to be removed:popcorn:)

dbussone
05-30-2015, 03:19 PM
And if you lean too far left, you're likely to fall off the edge of TV! (Oh, NO, I should just erase this myself now! I know it' going to be removed:popcorn:)

What happens if you lean too far right?

PaPaLarry
05-31-2015, 05:14 AM
I just love you PapaLarry. Maybe because we are often on the same page but you are much kinder and far more diplomatic. Your attitude and your posts are helpful and you don't hold back if you feel strongly about something.

Life becomes increasingly short and I am of the philosophy that if you see something good or someone good tell them.

It is a foggy beginning to another beautiful day in The Villages.

But I am getting MORE worried about Villages Pl.
Thank you Gracie. Your very kind. :) I'm just so blessed to be living here in "The Villages" amongst so many good people. (and funny people at that) :)

Cedwards38
05-31-2015, 08:54 AM
And if you lean too far left, you're likely to fall off the edge of TV! (Oh, NO, I should just erase this myself now! I know it' going to be removed:popcorn:)

Some believe that leaning to the left is really the right thing to do. Yes, that means left is right, and right is wrong.

Disclaimer: Ladies and Gentlemen, that statement was intended purely as an example of humor with puns and not as a political dig, nor an invitation for anyone to bring out the political flame throwers.:wave:

CFrance
05-31-2015, 09:38 AM
Some believe that leaning to the left is really the right thing to do. Yes, that means left is right, and right is wrong.

Disclaimer: Ladies and Gentlemen, that statement was intended purely as an example of humor with puns and not as a political dig, nor an invitation for anyone to bring out the political flame throwers.:wave:
But if you lean far to the left and you fall off, nothing will be left, right?

graciegirl
05-31-2015, 09:42 AM
Some believe that leaning to the left is really the right thing to do. Yes, that means left is right, and right is wrong.

Disclaimer: Ladies and Gentlemen, that statement was intended purely as an example of humor with puns and not as a political dig, nor an invitation for anyone to bring out the political flame throwers.:wave:

But only two or three who think that way live in The Villages.

Ditto on the DISCLAIMER ABOVE...and I LIKE cedward AND cfrance. A LOT.

dbussone
05-31-2015, 11:11 AM
But if you lean far to the left and you fall off, nothing will be left, right?


Or will you end up on the right?

CFrance
05-31-2015, 11:42 AM
Or will you end up on the right?
As in, What goes around comes around!