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Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 07:26 AM
Can Anyone make any suggestion on how to handle a drunk neighbor.
He is continuously drunk driving his golf cart to the courses and also in his car.
The other neighbors seem to think this is ok and he can live his life the way he wants, they say it is the villages get use to it.
Well some day he is going to hurt someones grand kids or another adult.
He is also very rude on top of it, not a nice person!
villagetinker
05-10-2015, 07:39 AM
This is not a good situation, and no matter what you do, he will probably make you a scapegoat, if he finds out you are involved. However, if you know of any family or relatives, you could possibly let them know the situation, and maybe they could investigate. Calling the police will probably not produce any results unless they see the infraction, and I do not think the VCDD patrols will do anything either. I do not agree with the comment "it's the villages get used to it". I am guessing that this individual has no idea that his drinking is affecting his ability to drive, and I am guessing that there will be no way to convince him of this without professional intervention.
So that was my 2 cents, hope this helps.
Chellybean
05-10-2015, 08:19 AM
This is not a good situation, and no matter what you do, he will probably make you a scapegoat, if he finds out you are involved. However, if you know of any family or relatives, you could possibly let them know the situation, and maybe they could investigate. Calling the police will probably not produce any results unless they see the infraction, and I do not think the VCDD patrols will do anything either. I do not agree with the comment "it's the villages get used to it". I am guessing that this individual has no idea that his drinking is affecting his ability to drive, and I am guessing that there will be no way to convince him of this without professional intervention.
So that was my 2 cents, hope this helps.
I agree, there is alot of that in the Villages just look at what leaves the square and is on the golf courses.
Maybe this is why a yellow dividing line is being put on golf paths soon.
Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 08:21 AM
Thank You folks but this doesn't make me feel any better about the situation any other words of wisdom?
Bogie Shooter
05-10-2015, 08:25 AM
I agree, there is alot of that in the Villages just look at what leaves the square and is on the golf courses.
Maybe this is why a yellow dividing line is being put on golf paths soon.
Been here 15 years and have never see "a lot of that on the golf courses".
What are you basing this statement on?
manaboutown
05-10-2015, 08:27 AM
Can you possibly get a video of him in action?
Chellybean
05-10-2015, 08:28 AM
Been here 15 years and have never see "a lot of that on the golf courses".
What are you basing this statement on?
i have just witnessed alot of golfers with coolers of beer and drinks.
Maybe that helps their game, l.o.l
Just a observation, not flaming anyone.
spring_chicken
05-10-2015, 08:30 AM
Eventually, he will be caught. In the meantime, if you're worried about someone getting hurt, please be aware that there are more golf cart/car accidents caused by sober drivers who are just bad drivers.
I did a little research on all those golf cart fatalities and couldn't find a single one where the driver was drunk. People love to assume that every time someone weaves, hits a curb... they are drunk. Most of them are just being inattentive or bad drivers.
Not saying this is the case with your neighbor, just letting you know that you probably have more to fear from the sober drivers who've had their licenses taken away.
Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 08:34 AM
Can you possibly get a video of him in action?
I understand but how do you prove blood alcohol level?
sunnyatlast
05-10-2015, 08:36 AM
Look him up in the county court records to see if he has DUI and other convictions. If so, he might be driving the car with suspended or revoked license. People having that record do come here so they can drive a golf cart if they don't have a valid license. Call police if that's the case.
https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/?county=60
Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 08:38 AM
Eventually, he will be caught. In the meantime, if you're worried about someone getting hurt, please be aware that there are more golf cart/car accidents caused by sober drivers who are just bad drivers.
I did a little research on all those golf cart fatalities and couldn't find a single one where the driver was drunk. People love to assume that every time someone weaves, hits a curb... they are drunk. Most of them are just being inattentive or bad drivers.
Not saying this is the case with your neighbor, just letting you know that you probably have more to fear from the sober drivers who've had their licenses taken away.
i do understand and i have witnessed him drinking and almost failing down a number of times bring is clear garbage bags filled of empty beer cans to the street on a weekly basis .
this is what caused me to pay attention to his behavior and he has almost caused a accident a number of times.
I guess i shouldn't assume he's drunk but i know how to connect the dots
spring_chicken
05-10-2015, 08:40 AM
i do understand and i have witnessed him drinking and almost failing down a number of times bring is clear garbage bags filled of empty beer cans to the street on a weekly basis .
this is what caused me to pay attention to his behavior and he has almost caused a accident a number of times.
I guess i shouldn't assume he's drunk but i know how to connect the dots
See my last sentence. Wasn't saying that was the case with your neighbor.
Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 08:41 AM
Look him up in the county court records to see if he has DUI and other convictions. If so, he might be driving the car with suspended or revoked license. People having that record do come here so they can drive a golf cart if they don't have a valid license. Call police if that's the case.
https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/?county=60
Thank You i will do that
Sandtrap328
05-10-2015, 08:41 AM
i have just witnessed alot of golfers with coolers of beer and drinks.
Maybe that helps their game, l.o.l
Just a observation, not flaming anyone.
It is perfectly legal to drink beer while driving on the golf course cartpaths. Not on the multimodal trails, but on the courses.
DonH57
05-10-2015, 08:43 AM
I'm assuming you are actually witnessing him consume multiple alcoholic beverages thru the day and taking off for golf or where ever and returning with an open container. I take it you observe his driving to be weaving, speeding, an overall failure to maintain the cart? I've been on a few golf courses and never seen anyone trashed. Occasionally you will hear a pop top. Golf is hard enough sober. Driving with an open container means you have a serious problem with alcohol.
Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 08:43 AM
It is perfectly legal to drink beer while driving on the golf course cartpaths. Not on the multimodal trails, but on the courses.
Sorry i wasn't aware of that, but driving drunk i am sure is NOT.
Challenger
05-10-2015, 08:44 AM
Can Anyone make any suggestion on how to handle a drunk neighbor.
He is continuously drunk driving his golf cart to the courses and also in his car.
The other neighbors seem to think this is ok and he can live his life the way he wants, they say it is the villages get use to it.
Well some day he is going to hurt someones grand kids or another adult.
He is also very rude on top of it, not a nice person!
On another thread there are many who say "live and let live" I wonder if they would apply that in this case?
If he is intoxicated and driving on a cart trail in a public road , he is subject to arrest. "Rat" him out. He will eventually maim or kill himself or others. Your actions may save his and the life of ohers.
Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 08:47 AM
I'm assuming you are actually witnessing him consume multiple alcoholic beverages thru the day and taking off for golf or where ever and returning with an open container. I take it you observe his driving to be weaving, speeding, an overall failure to maintain the cart? I've been on a few golf courses and never seen anyone trashed. Occasionally you will hear a pop top. Golf is hard enough sober. Driving with an open container means you have a serious problem with alcohol.
This is obviously have hit a sensitive subject for some.
I have witnessed enough to know it is a problem and the amount i have seen him consume in the garage could intoxicate three men in an hour.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-10-2015, 08:47 AM
i have just witnessed alot of golfers with coolers of beer and drinks.
Maybe that helps their game, l.o.l
Just a observation, not flaming anyone.
Doesn't help their game, but after enough beer, they no longer care.
spring_chicken
05-10-2015, 08:53 AM
Look him up in the county court records to see if he has DUI and other convictions. If so, he might be driving the car with suspended or revoked license. People having that record do come here so they can drive a golf cart if they don't have a valid license. Call police if that's the case.
https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/?county=60
Why would you do that? Him having prior convictions does not preclude him from driving a golf cart.
Don't make a fool out of yourself trying to be Magnum PI. It will only make the police take you less seriously.
And for God's sake, don't video him and call the police.
If it's bothering you that much, call the police and let them know it's going on. They may make the beat officer aware of it, but they're not going to stake out his house waiting for him to appear.
Bonny
05-10-2015, 08:53 AM
Can Anyone make any suggestion on how to handle a drunk neighbor.
He is continuously drunk driving his golf cart to the courses and also in his car.
The other neighbors seem to think this is ok and he can live his life the way he wants, they say it is the villages get use to it.
Well some day he is going to hurt someones grand kids or another adult.
He is also very rude on top of it, not a nice person!
Where are you when you say you continuously see him driving drunk in his car & cart. You say he has almost caused an accident a number of times. You see beer cans in his trash bags. You want to know how to prove his blood alcohol level.
I'm not getting this post. Are you following him, looking through his trash ?
I'm so busy here in the Villages that I couldn't imagine having the time to see all of this.
spring_chicken
05-10-2015, 08:58 AM
Where are you when you say you continuously see him driving drunk in his car & cart. You say he has almost caused an accident a number of times. You see beer cans in his trash bags. You want to know how to prove his blood alcohol level.
I'm not getting this post. Are you following him, looking through his trash ?
I'm so busy here in the Villages that I couldn't imagine having the time to see all of this.
Bingo. I can't imagine sitting in my yard watching my neighbor drink in his garage long enough for him to drink enough to intoxicate 3 men.
I have a couple of friends with Sumter county and it's sad some of the stories they tell me of people trying to play James Bond because they have nothing better to do. It does provide entertainment for the deputies, but I wish people would get out and enjoy their lives here instead of spending so much time snooping on their neighbors.
Bogie Shooter
05-10-2015, 09:05 AM
Rather than posting on an Internet blog, call the Sheriffs Department and tell them what you have posted on here. They are the professionals and know what to do.
Worried about being a "scapegoat"? I would rather be a scapegoat than having him kill someone, knowing I could have done something to prevent that happening.
Gilcrest A/C Guy
05-10-2015, 09:07 AM
Ok i have said enough.
I have been in his garage work on a project with him helping him repair something
and live in direct proximate to view this on a weekly basis.
consuming a 18 pack in an hour seems excessive to me but i am not a drinker
I guess people have taken this out of context and i am only worring about mine and my family's safety, have a nice day folks, this was not the outcome i was hoping for.
I was just looking for some advice on how to handle this.
Sorry if i offended some of you
DonH57
05-10-2015, 09:42 AM
I wasn't offended and was only asking for more info. 18 beers in an hour is excessive. I wouldn't be able to stand up, let alone drive. I do put out my recycling and among it all are beer bottles. I never put out too many so the trash guy doesn't herniate himself.
Lovey2
05-10-2015, 09:52 AM
Wow...you guys are brutal. At what number of posts do you become more believable? I only wish someone had the guts to speak to my ex and let him know he was endangering his and everyone else's life when he chose to drive drunk. On the other hand, I can fully understand why they didn't. An alcoholic won't listen to you anyway. Rather than immediately be suspicious of the poster, I choose to commend him on asking advice on how to handle this situation. Unfortunately, I have none, but will keep my eyes open in the neighborhood when out and about.
blueash
05-10-2015, 09:55 AM
I don't understand the suggestion that the OP is making this up. It is not a wildly improbable story that a person who lives in the Villages is an alcoholic, and a drunk driver. He asked what this forum suggests he do. Call the police, tell them what you have observed and ask them for their suggestion. Do they want you to alert them the next time you see him out drunk driving? I, personally, thank you for being an alert neighbor and trying to protect me and mine from drunk drivers. On this site people are always praising the conscientious neighbor who notices the possible break in nearby or person casing the area.. we are told to call the police to report our suspicion. How is this any different except in one case it is protecting property and with a drunk it is protecting a life.
Bonny
05-10-2015, 09:59 AM
Ok i have said enough.
I have been in his garage work on a project with him helping him repair something
and live in direct proximate to view this on a weekly basis.
consuming a 18 pack in an hour seems excessive to me but i am not a drinker
I guess people have taken this out of context and i am only worring about mine and my family's safety, have a nice day folks, this was not the outcome i was hoping for.
I was just looking for some advice on how to handle this.
Sorry if i offended some of you
18 beers in an hour ? Did you count them ? I don't know if there is enough time in an hour to drink 18 beers.
I'm in view of several of my neighbors. Can't say that I've ever watched them.
I hope they aren't watching me ! :22yikes: LOL
OpusX1
05-10-2015, 10:01 AM
If he is drinking 18 beers in a hour or even two hours you won't have to worry about it too much longer.
Grandfinch
05-10-2015, 10:01 AM
I feel confident that going through a mans trash, spying on his activities in his garage and talking negatively about him behind his back on a public web site would not qualify as being helpful.
newguyintv
05-10-2015, 10:03 AM
Thank You folks but this doesn't make me feel any better about the situation any other words of wisdom?
Yep. Either talk to the dude (which you won't do since you posted it on TOTV, or talk to the Cops (which you also won't do for the same reason). What good does it do to post it here?
Happinow
05-10-2015, 10:04 AM
I would get advice of a police officer. I would either call them, go to the police station or flag one down. This is a serious problem. Those of you who say MYOB or it's just part of The Villages, I'll bet you will change your mind if he injures you or a loved one. This is not "a look the other way situation." Drinking and driving anything is very dangerous. I applaud the OP for trying to make a difference.
Lovey2
05-10-2015, 10:19 AM
He was looking for honest advice. It's apparent most of you have never dealt with alcoholism or the devastation it can wreak. We ALL see things our neighbor's do...don't act like you don't. I don't get that he was spying, going thru trash or anything else suggested. He is, after time, becoming aware of an apparent problem. Again, unfortunately, there isn't a lot he can do about it. Maybe speaking with the police will get him some answers on how to handle it. Most alcoholics don't take the advice of loved ones, let alone a neighbor.
gerryann
05-10-2015, 10:21 AM
I applaud you for trying to help us all by getting this guy off the roads. Unfortunately, there is not much that you can do. A drunk is a drunk is a drunk...nothing will stop him until he hurts or Kills someone or himself. NOTHING!!! I believe it is a common practice here and we all need to be aware of the other drivers, especially later in the day.
Again, it great that you are trying and concerned, but I think it's a waste of your time. It will continue.
Bogie Shooter
05-10-2015, 10:25 AM
He was looking for honest advice. It's apparent most of you have never dealt with alcoholism or the devastation it can wreak. We ALL see things our neighbor's do...don't act like you don't. I don't get that he was spying, going thru trash or anything else suggested. He is, after time, becoming aware of an apparent problem. Again, unfortunately, there isn't a lot he can do about it. Maybe speaking with the police will get him some answers on how to handle it. Most alcoholics don't take the advice of loved ones, let alone a neighbor.
As you can see, you don't get that posting on an Internet blog.
Bogie Shooter
05-10-2015, 10:26 AM
I applaud you for trying to help us all by getting this guy off the roads. Unfortunately, there is not much that you can do. A drunk is a drunk is a drunk...nothing will stop him until he hurts or Kills someone or himself. NOTHING!!! I believe it is a common practice here and we all need to be aware of the other drivers, especially later in the day.
Again, it great that you are trying and concerned, but I think it's a waste of your time. It will continue.
Here? This happens everywhere.
PennBF
05-10-2015, 10:28 AM
The question is how would anyone feel if the drunk hit someone and injured them badly or killed them. Call the police and tell them and let them handle it. :police:
gerryann
05-10-2015, 10:31 AM
The question is how would anyone feel if the drunk hit someone and injured them badly or killed them. Call the police and tell them and let them handle it. :police:
I guess maybe the police could at least be on the watch for him.
Bonny
05-10-2015, 11:08 AM
Poor guy is already guilty of being a drunken Villager because 1 person said so. :ohdear:
gerryann
05-10-2015, 11:20 AM
Here? This happens everywhere.
Sorry Bogie....you're wrong on this one. Driving drunk IN A GOLF CART does NOT happen everywhere. Tell us one other place where 1,000's of folks use a golf cart as their main mode of transportation?
gerryann
05-10-2015, 11:25 AM
Poor guy is already guilty of being a drunken Villager because 1 person said so. :ohdear:
He's completely anonymous.....and I'm sure that most people that know him, know he has a booze problem. The OP is simply the only one who has the balls to ask for advice on how to help get him off the road.
njbchbum
05-10-2015, 11:57 AM
Perhaps someone from a local chapter of AA would know the means of an appropriate intervention? The OP might try contacting that group. I believe their meetings and contact info is published in the weekly Rec News.
PennBF
05-10-2015, 12:35 PM
This is NOT a case of live and let live as the person may take away the other persons to "life". Look at it as a simple.. There is a "drunk" driving either a golf
cart and/or car and they should be taken off the road. A lot of times what sobers a person up is by either being arrested or going to jail. In either case if a person reports a drunk and either happens to them that person [caller] has done a service to the drunk and the community. As I said do what it takes to get the drunk off the path or the road. :police:
gerryann
05-10-2015, 12:39 PM
This is NOT a case of live and let live as the person may take away the other persons to "life". Look at it as a simple.. There is a "drunk" driving either a golf
cart and/or car and they should be taken off the road. A lot of times what sobers a person up is by either being arrested or going to jail. In either case if a person reports a drunk and either happens to them that person [caller] has done a service to the drunk and the community. As I said do what it takes to get the drunk off the path or the road. :police:
I agree
Bonny
05-10-2015, 12:43 PM
If I had a neighbor that I know is a drunk, driving drunk and had seen him almost cause accidents a number of times and I was concerned, I definitely wouldn't be posting on TOTV asking for advice. I would be calling the police if I was so concerned about them killing someone while they were drunk.
TheVillageChicken
05-10-2015, 12:52 PM
Quite a few drunks leave the pool bar at Nancy Lopez every afternoon driving golf carts.
DougB
05-10-2015, 12:54 PM
I wasn't offended and was only asking for more info. 18 beers in an hour is excessive. I wouldn't be able to stand up, let alone drive. I do put out my recycling and among it all are beer bottles. I never put out too many so the trash guy doesn't herniate himself.
24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day! Coincidence? I don't think so.
spring_chicken
05-10-2015, 01:22 PM
Quite a few drunks leave the pool bar at Nancy Lopez every afternoon driving golf carts.
It's the sober ones causing the majority of the accidents. It's just more convenient for folks to just assume people are drunk when they do something stupid or careless.
Bogie Shooter
05-10-2015, 01:23 PM
He's completely anonymous.....and I'm sure that most people that know him, know he has a booze problem. The OP is simply the only one who has the balls to ask for advice on how to help get him off the road.
He just went to the wrong place to get advice.
Bogie Shooter
05-10-2015, 01:26 PM
Sorry Bogie....you're wrong on this one. Driving drunk IN A GOLF CART does NOT happen everywhere. Tell us one other place where 1,000's of folks use a golf cart as their main mode of transportation?
You did not make that distinction............................
Yung Dum
05-10-2015, 01:26 PM
Simple solution. Next time you see him take off in his car when he is drunk call 911. Get his plate number. Just be sure he's had enough to get arrested.
Mudder
05-10-2015, 02:03 PM
Gee whiz people the OP to me sounded like a concerned neighbor. What's wrong with asking for advice here? I think maybe the idea of asking the AA community here as to how to approach the guy is a good idea.
CFrance
05-10-2015, 02:23 PM
I think Happinow has the best suggestion. Call the police and make them aware, ask if there is any recourse. You don't have to sound like you're trying to rat someone out. Just being concerned for everyone's safety.
Barefoot
05-10-2015, 02:26 PM
if i had a neighbor that i know is a drunk, driving drunk and had seen him almost cause accidents a number of times and i was concerned, i definitely wouldn't be posting on totv asking for advice. I would be calling the police if i was so concerned about them killing someone while they were drunk.
I agree. As many have suggested, report your observations and concerns to the :police: and let them handle it.
DougB
05-10-2015, 04:01 PM
18 beers in an hour and friends enough to work together in his garage but can't tell him the neighborhood is not going to allow him to drive drunk? I'm skeptic of the whole post.
gerryann
05-10-2015, 04:48 PM
18 beers in an hour and friends enough to work together in his garage but can't tell him the neighborhood is not going to allow him to drive drunk? I'm skeptic of the whole post.
I am NOT addressing this specifically to Doug.
Don't you all have a "friend" or neighbor that you KNOW drinks too much? That you KNOW starts drinking way too early and way too much? ........do you approach this person and tell them? Most likely not.
I think the OP is a friendly neighbor who is concerned. Why is that so hard to believe?
He obviously at this point realizes that he posted this in the wrong place, but give him a break. He was trying to help, and only asking for suggestions.
Maybe too many of you relate too much with the guy who's had too much, but is driving anyway??
Chatbrat
05-10-2015, 05:08 PM
About a year ago, I saw a person blow the stop sign exiting the Cane Garden, he blew the traffic light on the corner of Bailey Tr & St Charles, he turned into Pennecamp, he missed his drive way & when we told him he was lucky we were not a Sumter Officer--he sat down on the ground
Do you think this guy was drunk?
gerryann
05-10-2015, 05:13 PM
Maybe drunk....but possibly some firm of dementia?
graciegirl
05-10-2015, 05:26 PM
Perhaps someone from a local chapter of AA would know the means of an appropriate intervention? The OP might try contacting that group. I believe their meetings and contact info is published in the weekly Rec News.
The meetings might be but they ARE anonymous.
wudda1955
05-10-2015, 05:29 PM
18 beers in an hour is one beer, nonstop, every 3.33 minutes. Assuming it's a 12 oz. beer that's 216 ounces of beer in an hour. At 128 ounces in a gallon, that's almost two gallons of beer in an hour. I think he would have drowned himself before he could feel the effects of the alcohol! That's a lot of beer, and while it may well be possible, it just doesn't sound plausible. Now, no matter what, the guy should not be drinking and driving and if he is doing so on a regular basis, he needs to be reported to the police.
graciegirl
05-10-2015, 05:33 PM
Don't you just wonder about stuff on this forum sometimes?
I am not doubting the OP or the advice. I am just saying that most of us would know what we would do. Discussing this on an online forum just wouldn't change MY mind.
Jima64
05-10-2015, 06:07 PM
Drink all you want at home, in your house, garage, yard as long as you don't enter the public right of way. Then you have a problem with me if I see you because I will follow you after calling the police until they catch you. I will not bother you as you have a right to consume alcohol but if you run traffic signals, blow through stop signs or hit the curbs or other lane then you are impaired.
Jaggy
05-10-2015, 06:30 PM
Don't you just wonder about stuff on this forum sometimes?
I am not doubting the OP or the advice. I am just saying that most of us would know what we would do. Discussing this on an online forum just wouldn't change MY mind.
that's how I get my neck kinks out.. by shaking my head as I read TOTV !!!! .
:loco:
PJUCTH
05-10-2015, 08:23 PM
I can't believe the ridiculous replies to this person. The rest of you must drive around with your eyes closed. I wonder how you would feel if your granddaughter Son etc. were visiting and this person who couldn't possibly drink 18 beers in an hour hit your loved one riding the bicycle on your multimodal Path . I would wonder how you would feel if your granddaughter Sun etc. were visiting and this person who couldn't possibly drink 18 beers in an hour hit your loved one riding the bicycle on your multimodal Path. go ahead keep minding your own business . I could go on but the mentality has suggested that I don't waste my time. Why don't you just ask a few the ambulance drivers.
CFrance
05-10-2015, 08:40 PM
18 beers in an hour is one beer, nonstop, every 3.33 minutes. Assuming it's a 12 oz. beer that's 216 ounces of beer in an hour. At 128 ounces in a gallon, that's almost two gallons of beer in an hour. I think he would have drowned himself before he could feel the effects of the alcohol! That's a lot of beer, and while it may well be possible, it just doesn't sound plausible. Now, no matter what, the guy should not be drinking and driving and if he is doing so on a regular basis, he needs to be reported to the police.
He must think the colonoscopy prep is a breeze.
sunnyatlast
05-10-2015, 08:41 PM
Look him up in the county court records to see if he has DUI and other convictions. If so, he might be driving the car with suspended or revoked license. People having that record do come here so they can drive a golf cart if they don't have a valid license. Call police if that's the case.
https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/?county=60
Why would you do that? Him having prior convictions does not preclude him from driving a golf cart.
Don't make a fool out of yourself trying to be Magnum PI. It will only make the police take you less seriously.
And for God's sake, don't video him and call the police.
If it's bothering you that much, call the police and let them know it's going on. They may make the beat officer aware of it, but they're not going to stake out his house waiting for him to appear.
So you want a drunk to not be arrested if out driving a car on a suspended or revoked license. I think we all know who is making a fool of themselves here.
Skybo
05-10-2015, 09:19 PM
18 beers in an hour is one beer, nonstop, every 3.33 minutes. Assuming it's a 12 oz. beer that's 216 ounces of beer in an hour. At 128 ounces in a gallon, that's almost two gallons of beer in an hour. I think he would have drowned himself before he could feel the effects of the alcohol! That's a lot of beer, and while it may well be possible, it just doesn't sound plausible. Now, no matter what, the guy should not be drinking and driving and if he is doing so on a regular basis, he needs to be reported to the police.
Exactly. Chugging a beer every 3.3 minutes for an hour straight? I'm not buying it. When you exaggerate one thing, it makes your whole post suspect. If you see him drunk driving, call the police. That is the right thing to do. Otherwise, don't concern yourself with what he does in his own home or what is in his trash.
jim1941
05-11-2015, 05:09 AM
If you drink 18 beers in one hour, your BAC (blood alcohol content) would be .36
At .35 you are unconscious and at .40 you are dead!
Greg Nelson
05-11-2015, 05:12 AM
My dad used to say 'when the booze goes in, the brains go out'...During my drinking career I did a better job of hiding things. I couldn't attest to 18 in an hour..never liked beer too slow. Like an old hippie friend used to say..'moderation in everything...including moderation'. Just glad I got a handle on myself..
Bay Kid
05-11-2015, 05:58 AM
Time to move. (just joking)
Chellybean
05-11-2015, 06:29 AM
Ok i have said enough.
I have been in his garage work on a project with him helping him repair something
and live in direct proximate to view this on a weekly basis.
consuming a 18 pack in an hour seems excessive to me but i am not a drinker
I guess people have taken this out of context and i am only worring about mine and my family's safety, have a nice day folks, this was not the outcome i was hoping for.
I was just looking for some advice on how to handle this.
Sorry if i offended some of you
OMG why are you people attacking this person.
They have only come to this post for advice.
Ok maybe 18 beers seems unrealistic, but i am sure the person wasn't watching a stop watch and wasn't right of the time or quantity.
maybe it was 12 in a hour or one or two of the beers is what they drank.
Either way something is wrong here on how your folks are treating this person.
Maybe the ones that are challenging this are also the ones driving around drunk also.
Just my two cents also grow up and hope it isn't your love ones that get hurt by a drunken driver!!!!!!!!!!!!!
outlaw
05-11-2015, 06:35 AM
I put drunk drivers right along side texters, phonaholics, and driving while applying makeup. They are all equally dangerous to others' health. I don't think I have ever met a person that drinks, that hasn't at some time in his or her life, gotten behind the wheel to drive home. And drinking (not drunk) while driving is no different, IMHO, as eating while driving; and we all know how common that is. So quit hating on drinking and driving like they are all pedophiles.
dirtbanker
05-11-2015, 06:37 AM
I have the complete opposite problem; my neighbor does not drink, does not own a cart, and is an unsocial recluse that peeps out the window at the rest of us on the block...
Your neighbor must spend a lot of money on beer (drinking 2 gallons an hour), and a lot of time driving to get that much beer (to the house), surprised nobody has suggested he get a tapper in his garage fridge. That might prevent him from needing to drive as much, which could save lives.
kcrazorbackfan
05-11-2015, 06:55 AM
Go to the Sumter Co. Sheriff's Dept. and let them know what is going on; it can be as discreet as you want it, YOU DID WHAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO TO KEEP A DRUNK OFF THE STREETS. I do not tolerate drunks in any way, especially driving, because I had to deal with the fatalities caused by them throughout my career.
If he stays on his property and wants to get so drunk that he passes out in his yard, let him do it; if he gets out on the street driving, turn him in.
Full disclosure, I may drink 1 six pack in a year; the last time I was drunk was in 1983 when, as a Trooper, I in a class on how to spot drunk drivers and how much alcohol it takes to get a person too drunk to function. And yes, I was driven home.
outlaw
05-11-2015, 07:03 AM
We have three town centers that offer free live entertainment nightly, have twofer drinks on the squares with people lined up 15 to 20 deep, virtually all of them arrived by cart. And then, they drive home. 99.9% of them make it home unscathed night after night. I'm more concerned about being taken out by a staff infection at the hospital, than from a drunk cart driver.
redwitch
05-11-2015, 07:07 AM
One of my best friends in junior high had a drunk for a father. He didn't consider himself an alcoholic since he only drank beer, but he drank it every night until he passed out. He'd chug the beer and the next one would be opened before the last was put down. Three six packs an hour really was possible for him. He ultimately died in a car accident. Sadly, so did the family of four he plowed into. So did my friend riding with her father.
Alcoholism is ugly. You can't help a drunk until they are ready for the help. The best you can do is try to protect yourself and society. I've more than once called 911 when I've seen someone driving erratically. I've given my name, the make of the vehicle, the location and the license number.
The OP made the mistake of asking for advice here. As has been said, the best recourse is to call the Sheriff's Department. Since the Sheriff does have a policy of pulling over golf carts at the squares, I would probably go to the square when my neighbor is there and give the LEO on duty a head's up about this guy.
And Gilchrist AC Guy, thank you for caring.
spring_chicken
05-11-2015, 07:24 AM
So you want a drunk to not be arrested if out driving a car on a suspended or revoked license. I think we all know who is making a fool of themselves here.
Reading comprehension is hard. Please highlight where I said that I don't want a drunk to be arrested. I said don't make a fool of yourself out videotaping people you think are drunk. I told him to call the police. Let the police do their job.
Grandfinch
05-11-2015, 07:35 AM
How about a concerned citizen group. Purchase an accurate breathilizer, set up camp in or near one of the squares offering free BAC analysis. Maybe your wrong, and all these folks are not drunk, or maybe they are and did not know. At a minimum, it would be a posstive way of getting the message out.
graciegirl
05-11-2015, 07:42 AM
Three things I have always told my children and grandchildren.. In fact it is a joke even now when they go out the front door. They get their kisses and their I love you's and stand and wait for the rest;
Don't drink and drive.
Don't have unprotected sex.
Save your money.
Disclaimer. I waited until they were in their mid teens to give this advice, but I did give it every time they left me.
Grandfinch
05-11-2015, 07:46 AM
Three things I have always told my children and grandchildren.. In fact it is a joke even now when they go out the front door. They get their kisses and their I love you's and stand and wait for the rest;
Don't drink and drive.
Don't have unprotected sex.
Save your money.
This advice applies to all:
Races
Sexes
Ages
And dare I say all party afiliations
Simple
sunnyatlast
05-12-2015, 09:50 AM
Why would you do that? Him having prior convictions does not preclude him from driving a golf cart.
Don't make a fool out of yourself trying to be Magnum PI. It will only make the police take you less seriously.
And for God's sake, don't video him and call the police.
If it's bothering you that much, call the police and let them know it's going on. They may make the beat officer aware of it, but they're not going to stake out his house waiting for him to appear.
The other online news source shows a drunk arrested for driving the golf cart drunk.
Article is titled "Villager behind wheel of golf cart arrested on DUI charge".
kcrazorbackfan
05-12-2015, 06:57 PM
If you drink 18 beers in one hour, your BAC (blood alcohol content) would be .36
At .35 you are unconscious and at .40 you are dead!
Not so fast; during my career as a LEO, I probably arrested a half dozen people for DWI that blew between .35 and .39. Worked a wreck one night on a .27 and almost got ran over while working the wreck by a .38.
Matzy
05-12-2015, 07:24 PM
I would not get involved too much. If its bothering so much just ask the Police what to do. They have an open ear and will do something and most importantly, they'll give you an advice.
DonH57
05-12-2015, 07:26 PM
Many years ago I was stopped at a light and an intoxicated person rear ended me knocking my car into the intersection. Witnesses said he had to be doing thirty. I had a feeling the last second just before he hit me he wasn't stopping. He fell out of his truck and tryed to walk away. He blew a .34 on the breathalyzer. He had his license reissued 2 weeks before the accident. This was his 5th DUI.
tomwed
05-12-2015, 07:50 PM
Can Anyone make any suggestion on how to handle a drunk neighbor.
If you want to change him, get him to think about changing or wonder everytime he pulls out of the driveway who's watching why don't you print this thread and give it to him.
He'll probably move.
PennBF
05-12-2015, 08:23 PM
A couple of posts reminded me of my brother in law's advise to his children. As an aside he had been a prisoner of war in WWII. His advise was, "Do what you want but ever bring trouble or the police to my door"..How did they turn out:
1 Daughter is a retired assistant District Attorney in Sacremento, California. 2. The second child (a son) is now the Principle of a large High School in Calif. 3. The 3rd child is a senior executive in a large Casino in Las Vegas. No bad for some simple advise. Of course they respected their father and knew he was serious. :wave:
OBXNana
05-13-2015, 03:44 AM
Can Anyone make any suggestion on how to handle a drunk neighbor.
He is continuously drunk driving his golf cart to the courses and also in his car.
The other neighbors seem to think this is ok and he can live his life the way he wants, they say it is the villages get use to it.
Well some day he is going to hurt someones grand kids or another adult.
He is also very rude on top of it, not a nice person!
Since he isn't a very nice person, it may be difficult to speak with the neighbor concerning the drinking and driving. Does the neighbor live with anyone? If so, have you tried talking to them?
I'm the first one to say live and let live, but in this case other people's safety would be a concern. If speaking to the neighbor or someone that lives with them is not an option, please contact the local police. At that point, in my opinion, you have done all you can do to protect the innocent and you will need to hope for the best.
rustyp
05-13-2015, 06:13 AM
Thus far 86 replies and 6385 views. Starting to compete with dog p--p. For the record of 86 replies there has been 5 possible solutions offered.
1. Call the police
2. Let a family member know
3. Talk to the "dude"
4. Contact AA
5. Live and let live
dirtbanker
05-13-2015, 06:46 AM
Thus far 86 replies and 6385 views. Starting to compete with dog p--p. For the record of 86 replies there has been 5 possible solutions offered.
1. Call the police
2. Let a family member know
3. Talk to the "dude"
4. Contact AA
5. Live and let live
6. Talk the guy into buying a tapper so the drunk does not need to drive to get more beer so often!
7. Sounds like the OP has a lot of time on their hands, the OP should offer to be the "designated driver" for the drunk neighbor!
8. Organize an intervention, make sure to have it early in the morning when he is likely to be semi sober (don't serve mimosas)!
9. Ask the liquor stores to charge him more for the beer, so he runs out of money sooner in life (if he can't afford beer, he will drink less)!
For the love of god, this could save MANY lives!!
Mleeja
05-13-2015, 06:46 AM
Thus far 86 replies and 6385 views. Starting to compete with dog p--p. For the record of 86 replies there has been 5 possible solutions offered.
1. Call the police
2. Let a family member know
3. Talk to the "dude"
4. Contact AA
5. Live and let live
Not to take away from the seriousness of this issue, but dog poop will generate may more post... :posting:
rustyp
05-13-2015, 06:53 AM
6. Talk the guy into buying a tapper so the drunk does not need to drive to get more beer so often!
7. Sounds like the OP has a lot of time on their hands, the OP should offer to be the "designated driver" for the drunk neighbor!
8. Organize an intervention, make sure to have it early in the morning when he is likely to be semi sober (don't serve mimosas)!
9. Ask the liquor stores to charge him more for the beer, so he runs out of money sooner in life (if he can't afford beer, he will drink less)!
For the love of god, this could save MANY lives!!
I also agree this is serious. I don't think 6-9 were meant to be advice. Thus not included in my summary. And as for God - I already love him/her.
Greg Nelson
05-13-2015, 07:07 AM
number 9 ? The price of booze has not gone up since I quit 18 years ago. You can still buy a 1.75 of cheap vodka for $10. How about this one... talk to your other neighbors..maybe that will help. Over 60% of fatal accidents here are alcohol involved..
tomwed
05-13-2015, 07:12 AM
I also agree this is serious. I don't think 6-9 were meant to be advice. Thus not included in my summary. And as for God - I already love him/her.
You missed mine too.
Give him a printed copy of this thread.
Topspinmo
05-13-2015, 07:17 AM
Ever observe trash when set out? There are lots of drunks? Anybody that has to have alcohol ever day got problem. This includes wino's even though they have the cleanest vanes:22yikes:Not just here but everywhere. Changes are at least 30% All people you pass walking, driving, even working with(especially golf drivers carts) are impaired no matter what time of day. Now do we want to add how many on drugs including prescribed?
dbussone
05-13-2015, 08:28 AM
Ever observe trash when set out? There are lots of drunks? Anybody that has to have alcohol ever day got problem. This includes wino's even though they have the cleanest vanes:22yikes:Not just here but everywhere. Changes are at least 30% All people you pass walking, driving, even working with(especially golf drivers carts) are impaired no matter what time of day. Now do we want to add how many on drugs including prescribed?
I disagree with your premise. You are certainly free to avoid alcohol and I respect your position on that. However, there are medically proven benefits to drinking some alcohol and wine. Eg, the heart benefit of one to two glasses of red wine per day. Everything in moderation my friend.
Chi-Town
05-13-2015, 08:33 AM
Ever observe trash when set out? There are lots of drunks? Anybody that has to have alcohol ever day got problem. This includes wino's even though they have the cleanest vanes:22yikes:Not just here but everywhere. Changes are at least 30% All people you pass walking, driving, even working with(especially golf drivers carts) are impaired no matter what time of day. Now do we want to add how many on drugs including prescribed?
With a third of the population impaired it must be a scary world.
dirtbanker
05-13-2015, 08:41 AM
With a third of the population impaired it must be a scary world.
You drink enough; your not afraid of anything!
looneycat
05-13-2015, 08:56 AM
now sounds like a bunch of angry drunks :grumpy:
CFrance
05-13-2015, 09:00 AM
I disagree with your premise. You are certainly free to avoid alcohol and I respect your position on that. However, there are medically proven benefits to drinking some alcohol and wine. Eg, the heart benefit of one to two glasses of red wine per day. Everything in moderation my friend.
Ha ha! Run and hide. Someone's heading for the library!
RickeyD
05-13-2015, 10:51 AM
I think the keywords here are Drunk, Neighbor & Golf Cart all three of which elicit strong responses from Villagers
Barefoot
05-13-2015, 12:19 PM
Ever observe trash when set out? There are lots of drunks? Anybody that has to have alcohol ever day got problem. This includes wino's even though they have the cleanest vanes:22yikes:Not just here but everywhere. Changes are at least 30% All people you pass walking, driving, even working with(especially golf drivers carts) are impaired no matter what time of day. Now do we want to add how many on drugs including prescribed?
:ohdear: Are you saying that 30% of Villages retirees are impaired no matter what time of day? :confused:
otherbruddaDarrell
05-13-2015, 01:20 PM
Lets not forget that this is a drinking community with a golfing problem.:D
villagerjack
05-13-2015, 01:30 PM
i have just witnessed alot of golfers with coolers of beer and drinks.
Maybe that helps their game, l.o.l
Just a observation, not flaming anyone.
Been here 8 years and never played with a golfer that was drinking or drunk
Or had a cooler.
Greg Nelson
05-13-2015, 01:45 PM
you're going to chase away the sober newcomers
outlaw
05-13-2015, 03:43 PM
I'm not saying it's wrong, but the developer facilitates and profits from the whole drunken, live entertainment, with two for one drinks in town squares that mostly require driving to get there. Personally, I think the developer has a greater plan for us, and I will trust in him to deliver us to the final solution. :thumbup:
Sandtrap328
05-13-2015, 04:17 PM
First, I have lived here over 5 years and have not encountered drunks at the town squares. I go to either Lake Sumter Landing or Spanish Springs at least once a week. It is a great way to spend a little time and to socialize - yes, with a drink - and with other Villagers.
Second, the OP had said in his/her first post that the "drunk" neighbor was not a nice person but later said he/she would be with the "drunk" in his garage while the "drunk" drank an 18 pack of beer in an hour. Sound completely fabricated to me.
OBXNana
05-13-2015, 05:53 PM
I'm not saying it's wrong, but the developer facilitates and profits from the whole drunken, live entertainment, with two for one drinks in town squares that mostly require driving to get there. Personally, I think the developer has a greater plan for us, and I will trust in him to deliver us to the final solution. :thumbup:
What? Would you please further explain these statements?
CFrance
05-13-2015, 06:23 PM
What? Would you please further explain these statements?
Let me guess: he's equating the developer with God and the further plan for us is to drink ourselves to death?
I think he was trying to be funny.
Bogie Shooter
05-13-2015, 06:37 PM
Thus far 86 replies and 6385 views. Starting to compete with dog p--p. For the record of 86 replies there has been 5 possible solutions offered.
1. Call the police
2. Let a family member know
3. Talk to the "dude"
4. Contact AA
5. Live and let live
Mentioned over & over by posters who don't read the posts..........
OBXNana
05-13-2015, 06:38 PM
Let me guess: he's equating the developer with God and the further plan for us is to drink ourselves to death?
I think he was trying to be funny.
Thank you CFrance for the clarification. I have to admit, I began typing before I put brain in gear!
Bogie Shooter
05-13-2015, 06:39 PM
number 9 ? The price of booze has not gone up since I quit 18 years ago. You can still buy a 1.75 of cheap vodka for $10. How about this one... talk to your other neighbors..maybe that will help. Over 60% of fatal accidents here are alcohol involved..
Where is "here"?
Bogie Shooter
05-13-2015, 06:43 PM
I'm not saying it's wrong, but the developer facilitates and profits from the whole drunken, live entertainment, with two for one drinks in town squares that mostly require driving to get there. Personally, I think the developer has a greater plan for us, and I will trust in him to deliver us to the final solution. :thumbup:
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graciegirl
05-13-2015, 08:01 PM
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I agree Bogie. I couldn't have said it better. Must be a full moon.
DougB
05-13-2015, 08:14 PM
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CFrance
05-13-2015, 10:37 PM
Thank you CFrance for the clarification. I have to admit, I began typing before I put brain in gear!
I've been known to do that myself!:D
graciegirl
05-14-2015, 05:20 AM
Maybe the OP can talk his neighbor into going on a plant based diet?
Personally I wouldn't worry until he pooped in my front yard and tried to put a Milton Berle statue in his.
Bonny
05-14-2015, 05:26 AM
I think most alcohol is made from grain. That probably makes it plant based, so I think he's good ! :ho:
dbussone
05-14-2015, 05:46 AM
Even though not made from grain, vodka will also work - plant based as well.
CFrance
05-14-2015, 06:11 AM
Even though not made from grain, vodka will also work - plant based as well.
And gin! Don't forget juniper berries.:clap2:
By George, I think we've got it!
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