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Guest
07-25-2008, 10:00 PM
It will be interesting as well as revealing in the coming days.
The American people, overwhelmingly, want increased drilling where ever the oil is with polls and congressional contacts in excess of 75%.

Let's see where the line gets drawn. The American people KNOW drilling won't lower the pain at the pump. They have finally decided it is time to cut the umbilical cord with OPEC oil and all other foreign oil.

Let us watch the American process of "REPRESENTATIVE" government in action.

BTK

Guest
07-25-2008, 10:20 PM
It will be interesting as well as revealing in the coming days.
The American people, overwhelmingly, want increased drilling where ever the oil is with polls and congressional contacts in excess of 75%.

Let's see where the line gets drawn. The American people KNOW drilling won't lower the pain at the pump. They have finally decided it is time to cut the umbilical cord with OPEC oil and all other foreign oil.

Let us watch the American process of "REPRESENTATIVE" government in action.

BTK


Well, one thing's for sure. The Democratic Party members who claim residency in one place yet actually are "home" in the DC area won't give a tinker's dam about what folks in Michgan or Florida (no matter what the political persuasion of these folk is) care about. That point has been made crystal-clear already...

Guest
07-25-2008, 10:23 PM
What do you mean that drilling in the US won't lower the pain at the pumps? It's a supply and demand situation. Thus, if supply increases the pressures on demand decreases and prices come down. And it won't take 22 years to extract the oil as the idiots want you to believe.

Guest
07-25-2008, 11:59 PM
Gas is $4 a gallon. Heating oil is through the roof. Diesel is almost $5 a gallon. People are aggravated at best, angry at worst. The president and the Republican party claim part of the solution is to open up protected wildlife reserves and offshore areas to drilling. They claim the Democrats are "out of touch" with the desires of the American people by not allowing Big Oil to drill off the coast of places like Florida or California. On the surface, it seems to make sense. After all, aren't we importing most of our oil from countries that hate us? Let's produce our own and reduce our dependency on OPEC. Open up the offshore areas and protected wildlife reserves. To hell with the polar bears. We need oil.

There is just one small issue. The oil companies already have over 60,000,000 acres of land under lease that they ARE NOT drilling. Some of it is right next door to the Alaskan Wildlife reserve, in fact. Some of it is in specially zoned waters in the Gulf of Mexico! To be sure, current Department of Interior regulations are suppose to strip oil companies of their leases if they have not begun exploration or drilling for oil by a certain point. However current regulations are lax, thanks to a pro-Big Oil administration, and the requirements that the oil companies have to meet are minimal. And as another point of note, the whole moratorium on off-shore drilling does not prevent ALL offshore drilling. In fact, the oil companies already have the rights to drill on more than 300 million acres offshore! Some of it is currently being drilled, but much of it is waiting for exploration. It's pretty simple, if you control the property but don't use, you can keep the prices high and keep anyone else from drilling.

Guest
07-26-2008, 12:24 AM
You guy's should be worshiping at the feet of BIG OIL. They are the ones going all over the world spending billions to bring you your gas,plastics,medical equipment, and heating oil. They make far less than Google or microsoft,and certainly alot less than HP is selling you an ounce of printer ink at $35. Somehow you think that they are the bad guy's. Why don't you start your own oil company so you can do a better job.

Guest
07-26-2008, 12:43 AM
Worshipping the feet of big oil? Really? (silence -- still shaking my head in disbelief!) :o

Guest
07-26-2008, 11:42 PM
Chels, hardly worth bothering replying to such a post. In fact, it just gives the poster some sort of undeserved validity. I've just been ignoring them.

Guest
07-26-2008, 11:43 PM
There is just one small issue. The oil companies already have over 60,000,000 acres of land under lease that they ARE NOT drilling. Some of it is right next door to the Alaskan Wildlife reserve, in fact. Some of it is in specially zoned waters in the Gulf of Mexico! To be sure, current Department of Interior regulations are suppose to strip oil companies of their leases if they have not begun exploration or drilling for oil by a certain point. However current regulations are lax, thanks to a pro-Big Oil administration, and the requirements that the oil companies have to meet are minimal. And as another point of note, the whole moratorium on off-shore drilling does not prevent ALL offshore drilling. In fact, the oil companies already have the rights to drill on more than 300 million acres offshore! Some of it is currently being drilled, but much of it is waiting for exploration. It's pretty simple, if you control the property but don't use, you can keep the prices high and keep anyone else from drilling.





You nailed that one on the head, JJ. Simple economics at work.

Guest
07-30-2008, 11:34 PM
Gas is $4 a gallon. Heating oil is through the roof. Diesel is almost $5 a gallon. People are aggravated at best, angry at worst. The president and the Republican party claim part of the solution is to open up protected wildlife reserves and offshore areas to drilling. They claim the Democrats are "out of touch" with the desires of the American people by not allowing Big Oil to drill off the coast of places like Florida or California. On the surface, it seems to make sense. After all, aren't we importing most of our oil from countries that hate us? Let's produce our own and reduce our dependency on OPEC. Open up the offshore areas and protected wildlife reserves. To hell with the polar bears. We need oil.

There is just one small issue. The oil companies already have over 60,000,000 acres of land under lease that they ARE NOT drilling. Some of it is right next door to the Alaskan Wildlife reserve, in fact. Some of it is in specially zoned waters in the Gulf of Mexico! To be sure, current Department of Interior regulations are suppose to strip oil companies of their leases if they have not begun exploration or drilling for oil by a certain point. However current regulations are lax, thanks to a pro-Big Oil administration, and the requirements that the oil companies have to meet are minimal. And as another point of note, the whole moratorium on off-shore drilling does not prevent ALL offshore drilling. In fact, the oil companies already have the rights to drill on more than 300 million acres offshore! Some of it is currently being drilled, but much of it is waiting for exploration. It's pretty simple, if you control the property but don't use, you can keep the prices high and keep anyone else from drilling.




Gas is $4 a gallon. Heating oil is through the roof. Diesel is almost $5 a gallon. People are aggravated at best, angry at worst. The president and the Republican party claim part of the solution is to open up protected wildlife reserves and offshore areas to drilling. They claim the Democrats are "out of touch" with the desires of the American people by not allowing Big Oil to drill off the coast of places like Florida or California. On the surface, it seems to make sense. After all, aren't we importing most of our oil from countries that hate us? Let's produce our own and reduce our dependency on OPEC. Open up the offshore areas and protected wildlife reserves. To hell with the polar bears. We need oil.

There is just one small issue. The oil companies already have over 60,000,000 acres of land under lease that they ARE NOT drilling. Some of it is right next door to the Alaskan Wildlife reserve, in fact. Some of it is in specially zoned waters in the Gulf of Mexico! To be sure, current Department of Interior regulations are suppose to strip oil companies of their leases if they have not begun exploration or drilling for oil by a certain point. However current regulations are lax, thanks to a pro-Big Oil administration, and the requirements that the oil companies have to meet are minimal. And as another point of note, the whole moratorium on off-shore drilling does not prevent ALL offshore drilling. In fact, the oil companies already have the rights to drill on more than 300 million acres offshore! Some of it is currently being drilled, but much of it is waiting for exploration. It's pretty simple, if you control the property but don't use, you can keep the prices high and keep anyone else from drilling.

Guest
07-31-2008, 04:17 AM
This is just one more of those issues that when boiled down to it's simplest denominator. It comes down to what's good for big business and big money, and then the rest of us.

The oil barons would like us to believe that they are the only ones that can solve our energy problems. Just trust them to do what is best for the rest of us.

I agree, yes let's drill (starting with the areas we already have in the bag). While the oil barons are drilling and squeezing oil out of sand and rocks, let's also invest some real money in alternative energy and fuels. Why don't we, as a country, also place a deadline on the auto makers to get our country off the combustable engine in the next ten years.

Guest
07-31-2008, 10:59 AM
:agree: :agree: :agree:

Guest
07-31-2008, 01:57 PM
Ok, I'll break my own rule and comment in Political:

I have been in the Democrat Party since I could vote. But I have to say I am ashamed of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. I can't believe these two keep getting re-elected. Maybe term limits should be on the table again. They aren't the only ones, but they sure lead the pack of those that need to go.