McCain Video

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I am curious the response...let me know what you think....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnR78yi3dFw

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I would not want to be subjected to the media edits, clips and out of context "quotes" that any of our candidates are exposed to.
With this type of selective presentation, it's no wonder that so many people would never consider running for office. If any of us were being followed around 24/7, I'm certain a similar video could be created to make us all look foolish.
This makes me very sad, as what are we teaching the younger generation?

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that is the funny part....check out the raw feeds...I have been for the last few days...there are a few out of context parts (like the illiterate one), but for the most part, he doesn't seem to be able to get simple facts down (like who we are fighting and where). You would think that after 25 years he would be an expert. Personally, I find it rolling on the floor funny that he is actually running for president. Might as well hire Forest Gump! LOL ROTF!!!! hahaha. This wasn't meant to be all that serious, just showing the humor of life, like the presidential candidate that the republicans put forward....oh my god SOOOO FUNNY!!!!!!


As a side note....the republicans are complaining about Obama being followed by the media and McCain being ignored...yet he knows where Iraq is, who the leaders are, and what we are doing. Why isn't he so foolish? McCain (who is being ignored) is the only one who makes mistakes? And people support him...that is so funny that my belly hurts every time I watch this.... LOL hahahahaha Another 8 years please...we need to keep SNL going!! hahahahaha

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Funny to me is all you libs worshiping lord Obama, a person so transparent you can see through him. So I asked earlier. Can you name even one accomplishment of Obama, or even tougher can you name one of his plans or policies to solve anything? Maybe for you hope and change is enough, not knowing what hope and change means. I find it rolling on the floor scary Obama is even running.

Heip Wanted... President of the United States
no experience necessary .

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beji,

I agree, experience would be nice...but dementia is out right scary (and as a former McCain supporter...in the 80s and 90s...he has lost his mind since then). I do have one more serious question. I was a Reagan lover, and in the time, we republicans (which I have since started the economic AA program) believed that career politicians (God Bless Charlie Daniels) were our problem. Yet today, republicans want big business, career politicians, and a policy that puts Wall Street Investors before the American Worker (in which republicans call the average American worker a terrorist interest group). I have a question...Does the republican party want to rename itself to the USSR? Because it really seems that this is the case.....

I am sorry, I am not a party person, I am simply an American. Unfortunately, there only seems to be one party who supports Americans. But if we don't mind relocating to China to work for $2 a day, lets vote republican or Neo-Con (thank god the republican named Hilliary is out).....

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Ronald Reagan yearned so much for freedom and democracy in Soviet-bloc nations showed limited concern for democracy and human rights in other parts of the globe. After Democrats and Republicans in Congress passed sanctions against the apartheid government of South Africa, Reagan vetoed the measure. His Administration cuddled up with the fascistic and anti-Semitic junta of Argentina and backed militaries in El Salvador and Guatemala that massacred civilians. It moved to normalize relations with Augusto Pinochet, the tyrant of Chile. Reagan sent George Bush the First to the Philippines, where the Vice President toasted dictator Ferdinand Marcos for fostering "democracy." Pursuing a quasi-secret war against the Sandinista government in Nicaragua, the Reagan Administration violated international law and circumvented Congress to support contra rebels engaged in human rights abuses and, according to the CIA's own Inspector General, worked with suspected drug traffickers. Reagan covertly sent arms to the mullahs of Iran and courted Saddam Hussein, even after his use of chemical weapons. He appointed officials who claimed nuclear war was winnable, thus raising the chances that miscalculations by the Soviet Union or the United States would plunge the world into chaos. On the home front Reagan was almost as divisive and disingenuous as the second Bush, his deficit-causing supply-side tax cuts (derided by the elder Bush as "voodoo economics") were sold with phony numbers and sleight-of-hand accounting. These "trickle-down" tax cuts--coupled with a tremendous boost in military spending--were designed to bankrupt the government, pressuring it to reduce government spending and thereby justifying draconian cuts in social programs. He presided over an S&L scandal that stuck taxpayers with a bill approaching a trillion dollars. He appointed Antonin Scalia to the Supreme Court. He tried to gut the Civil Rights Commission, and his Administration waged a relentless series of attacks on affirmative action while trying to grant tax-exempt status to private schools that engaged in racial discrimination. But he won two presidential elections commandingly, and over the course of several decades inspired a devoted following that now wants to etch his name and image on currency, public buildings and monuments across the land. He won by displaying an optimism about his ideology that most right-leaning politicians before him had lacked; voters, even when they didn't particularly like his ideas, liked Reagan himself, because he convinced them he believed in these ideas and in a noble vision of America. Reagan once stated, "Facts are stupid things." He meant "stubborn." His presidency was no morning in America; it empowered and enabled some of the worst elements of public life in our country: greed, arrogance, neglect and hypocrisy. This Reagan legacy, unfortunately, survives its namesake, and, worse, it has been enhanced by the son of his Vice President.

WE DON"T NEED ANY MORE MENTALLY INCOMPETENT CLOWNS RUNNING OUR COUNTRY!

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I am clearly not a McCain supporter, but I find this video in very bad taste.

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I am sorry chelsea24, but I actually see it as an important statement about a person who could honestly be suffering from a mental defect. After watching McCain for 20 years (have long been a fan), I see his mental capacity declining. I have also been around people who came down with Alzheimer's, and I honestly wonder if he has it. Its not name calling, Reagan had it in his last year in office. That is fine if it affects you in the 7th of 8 years, but not in the first. McCain never made mistakes like this 10 years ago....

Obama (with the little experience that conservatives blame him for) seems to know a whole lot more about the world (like who borders Iraq and the president of Germany) than McCain. I would rather vote for a man with potential than one who placed 894th of 899 students (fifth from the bottom), and that was when he was at his sharpest. I would be a lot more friendly and light hearted if it weren’t my friends and family in the military that will die for his incompetency. How can you work for peace when you can’t even remember who the presidents are or the leaders left alive?

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:bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: Jeckyl on those points we do agree.

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JECK

Obama (with the little experience that conservatives blame him for) seems to know a whole lot more about the world

How come he doesn't know how many states we have in USA? :dontknow: :dontknow:

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I've been concerned about McCain's "mis-steps" for quite some time. I remember Reagan making such errors, and then a few years after he was out of office it was announced he had Alzheimers. At mcCain's age, it is a distinct possibility. There is no question he gets the facts mixed up from time to time, as we've seen, its been recorded on video. I shudder to think if he was elected to the presidency, and he had such lapses in the middle of negotiations, or in meetings with foreign dignitaries. I am not comfortable taking such a chance.

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The arguments seem to be splitting as follows:

Sen. Obama - Little experience, but talks fairly well and reads scripts very well.
Sen. McCain - Greater experience, Ignores scripts, talks extemporaneously and makes errors along the way.

It will be interesting who the Vice Presidential candidates will be for several reasons, especially:

For Sen. Obama - The odds of this VP being anything more than prior VPs during the Kennedy, Carter and Clinton administrations are slim. Sen. Obama's VP's job will be to gather votes and then be shuffled into the basement.

For Sen. McCain - As above, vote-getting will be a premier responsibility. However, due to some voters' concerns about his age and potential for age-related disability, Sen. McCain's VP has a much greater potential for being involved in the day-to-day Chief Executive activities and delegated considerable responsibility, as what has occurred in the Bush administration.

One of the things taught to all military officers at an early age and re-emphasized many times thereafter is to plan and implement all actions with the full knowledge that combat loss will occur, and that loss includes the officer him/herself. Military planning and operations are build on that management concept, which is why the military is much more concerned about having greater management reserves available than civilian industry.

Sen. Obama strikes me as a "I am invincible" operator, and has limited management experience in the civilian world and none in the military. His curriculum vita (education section) also seems to be void of significant management training. For some reason I don't see him "mentoring" a potential replacement or working in concert with the person the Contitution expected to be at his right hand and his chief counsel.

Sen. McCain has more experience and education in management in general. While most fighter pilots also have the "I am invincible" attitude, Sen. McCain learned early in his military career that "stuff" happens and invincibility is a fallacy. I expect that if a successor to a President McCain is necessary due to health or other reasons, that successor - as planned for by the Founding Fathers - will be at-the-ready and fully knowledgeable of all the goings-on within the administration. that just goes with the training and experience.

Again, the choices by these gentlemen (if they indeed make the choices themselves or are told by their respective parties who that person will be) will be significant to me.

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Sen. Obama strikes me as a "I am invincible" operator...

I can't imagine where you conjured up that opinion, but I guess you're entitled to your brand of logic, since you linked Obama indirectly to Hitler and Mussolini in another thread.

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I can't imagine where you conjured up that opinion, but I guess you're entitled to your brand of logic, since you linked Obama indirectly to Hitler and Mussolini in another thread.

Then you have misunderstood the reference. A bunch of Europeans gathered to hear a politician - any politician - does not make the politician the Messiah, and there seems to be a concerted effort to portray Sen. Obama as bigger than lifelike.

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SteveZ, I respect the right to your opinion and I agree with Lil Dancer on you calling yourself an Independent. That's laughable really. But with all due respect, all I'm hearing is a lot of sour grapes. As a matter of fact, I'm starting to hear that from a lot of Republicans. And I expect it will get worse and worse as the political campaigns move on. Because if there's one thing I've become astutely aware of over the years is that a Republican will never, ever admit they're wrong or change their minds on anything. So, again, we'll see the outcome in November.

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Democrats never admit they're wrong either, so it's a draw.

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Bright! No wonder you and my husband get along so well. You're both Republicans! :o

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Bright! No wonder you and my husband get along so well. You're both Republicans! :o

Then the Democrat's position must be that if you don't go along with the Democrats, then you must be Republican.....

A true independent does not buy into "the Party runs my mind." A true independent at least tries to view the world with open eyes, and not just accept the Party hyperbole as the Third Testament.

If a position cannot be defended with logic, and the challenger villified as less-than-intelligent because the challenger dares to challenge, the the position is flawed.

From what I have seen of the Republicans is that they do see Sen. McCain as not a perfect person, and they challenge him consistently to determine his worth as a candidate. From what I have seen of the Democrats. the only thing that seems to matter is that the DNC has pre-anointed the candidate and all will follow regardless of the value of the candidate him/herself, because to challenge the candidate is considered political heresy. Apparently, the "I'd vote for a yellow dog if he ran on the Democratic ticket" still is the party line.

Open discussion on issues and candidates makes us all wiser. Blinders accomplish just what they are intended to do. I find it difficult to believe that Democrats all consider that Sen. Obama is the perfect person and cannot be wrong on anything.

Whether you consider me republican, democrat, whig, green or anarchist is immaterial. I know myself, and that I don't accept pre-ordainment by any Party as gospel. Whether others do is their choice, and possibly their loss. Giving up free thought is one's right....

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Not only has he stated we are a nation of 47 states but.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

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Chels....nope

Many years ago I was Republican then switched to Independent. Although I still consider myself an Independent I lean more to the Democratic side.

Surprise!

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SteveZ, Bright and I are dear friends, so I was joking with her.

As for my opinion, I think it's evident that I do believe Obama is the best candidate. As I stated in a previous post, I am not led by party lines. I voted for Reagan. It just seems to me I am always more drawn towards the Democratic candidates.

In this particular election, for me it's an easy call. Between Senator Obama and Senator McCain, it's no contest. My vote is going to be for Senator Obama. I also have a right to my opinion and to my vote.

Cabo35, I really don't think you want to go toe to toe with the gaffs made between Obama and McCain. Again, no contest.

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Then you have misunderstood the reference. A bunch of Europeans gathered to hear a politician - any politician - does not make the politician the Messiah, and there seems to be a concerted effort to portray Sen. Obama as bigger than lifelike.


"a bunch of Europeans" as though a European is some sort of lower life form. Sounds like a boorish, nationalistic American. Just my opinion.

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"a bunch of Europeans" as though a European is some sort of lower life form. Sounds like a boorish, nationalistic American. Just my opinion.

No - not "some sort of lower life form," but rather a particular group whose opinion regarding American politics and politicians in general I find inconsequential - rather like the way most Europeans feel about any opinions Americans have about intra-European affairs.

And YES I must then be a "boorish, nationalistic American, and am darned proud of it. There would not be independent states in Europe today if it were not for the "boorish, nationalistic Americans." There hasn't been a battle fought on the American mainland for a century and a half, which is something that can't be said for almost everywhere else on earth, and it's been because "boorish, nationalistic Americans" have made sure it wouldn't happened, while trying to keep the rest of the world from turning into a self-inflicted cinder.

When the "going gets tough," the "enlightened" folk usually are nowhere to be found except to complain at great distance and with considerable rhetoric, and we boorish, nationalistic types end up with the job of fixing what the "enlightened" have broken.

So, if my feelings seem minimal about what a European crowd's opinion of a well-choreographed event designed to mimic Pres. Kennedy's "let them come to Berlin" show, and those feelings are not shared by the "Oh, isn't he wonderful" followers of the Democratic candidate-to-be, so be it! If the Republican candidate-to-be appeared in a similar venue, my feelings would be the same. If hyped theater and great publicity make for the better candidate, then Billy Joel or Garth Brooks (who draw as many or more in Central Park concerts) may be in the next ballot....

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>:( Sour grapes. Obama's trip was a huge success. It's that simple

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SteveZ, Bright and I are dear friends, so I was joking with her.

As for my opinion, I think it's evident that I do believe Obama is the best candidate. As I stated in a previous post, I am not led by party lines. I voted for Reagan. It just seems to me I am always more drawn towards the Democratic candidates.

In this particular election, for me it's an easy call. Between Senator Obama and Senator McCain, it's no contest. My vote is going to be for Senator Obama. I also have a right to my opinion and to my vote.


:agree: Chelsea...you said it better than I could. I also voted for Reagan but will vote for Obama in the upcoming election.

Yes, Steve...Chels and I are buds.

One more thing....uh oh...here's a revelation from me...

Jeckyl is my son...go figure! I am so proud of him for the insight he has at such a young age. Well, guess he's not so young anymore being he's in his mid thirties but he'll always be my baby. LOL

He has a Philosophy undergraduate degree with a Masters in the same area. He's working on his doctorate in Sociology now.

AND...we don't agree on all issues so please don't judge me by his comments...each to our own....whether I think he's right or not.....aarrgh!

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Jeckyl is my son...go figure! I am so proud of him for the insight he has at such a young age. .....
You should be very proud. He and I have had a good time with these chats, and expect to share a pint or two when I return to TV in September.

We too don't agree on everything, but being willling to share viewpoints in an open manner is healthy and adult. You done good, lady! ! ! !

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>:( Sour grapes. Obama's trip was a huge success. It's that simple

Sour grapes? No. - Apathy? Yes.

I'm curious as to what the "success" was and the metrics to determine "success?"

There is no question that Sen. Obama has an air of charisma and the theatrical talent to capitalize on an event.