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Guest
05-11-2015, 04:42 PM
"We will look for you, we will find you, and we will kill you". Plays well at NRA gathering but not very presidential. He is off my list.

Guest
05-11-2015, 04:47 PM
"We will look for you, we will find you, and we will kill you". Plays well at NRA gathering but not very presidential. He is off my list.

He probably should have said, "we will negotiate with you, we will give you what you want, and we will pay you billions".

Guest
05-11-2015, 05:18 PM
Makes me think of "Macbeth", act 5, scene 5: "A poor player who struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury - signifying nothing."

Did you see Rubio sweating during a televised interview? Very Nixon-esque.

Guest
05-11-2015, 05:30 PM
By the time this is over, we will be pining for Herman Cain - 9/9/9.

Guest
05-11-2015, 06:33 PM
He probably should have said, "we will negotiate with you, we will give you what you want, and we will pay you billions".

Bingo ... when I read the OP's observation I had to laugh. He (or she) is definitely part of the problem.

Guest
05-11-2015, 10:40 PM
Wow!
Such a general denouncing after one observation?
Seems like picking fly specs out of pepper-like.

Guest
05-12-2015, 06:54 AM
Wow!
Such a general denouncing after one observation?
Seems like picking fly specs out of pepper-like.

In this age of instant communication and sound bites, all it takes for a candidate to mark themself as either a yea or nay is one tiny phrase.

Is it right? No, but that is the 21st century. This is not the 1950's.

Guest
05-12-2015, 09:50 AM
In this age of instant communication and sound bites, all it takes for a candidate to mark themself as either a yea or nay is one tiny phrase.

Is it right? No, but that is the 21st century. This is not the 1950's.
Actually not exactly correct. Rubio has been pandering to hard right six months before he announced.

Guest
05-12-2015, 10:19 AM
Actually not exactly correct. Rubio has been pandering to hard right six months before he announced.

And yet he is in favor of giving citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants? Sounds as if he is pandering to two sides at the same time.

Rubio's numbers keep slipping in polls. Bye, Marco.

Guest
05-13-2015, 08:11 PM
Stay thirsty, my friends ........

Guest
05-14-2015, 12:46 PM
"We will look for you, we will find you, and we will kill you". Plays well at NRA gathering but not very presidential. He is off my list.

Only those with a certifiable mental illness (ie liberalism) would be aghast about a President Rubio defending us, and making it clear to our enemies they will pay a price.

Guest
05-14-2015, 05:44 PM
Only those with a certifiable mental illness (ie liberalism) would be aghast about a President Rubio defending us, and making it clear to our enemies they will pay a price.





Like the price Osama Bin Laden paid?

You remember him ,don't you? The guy Junior couldn't find after looking for 7 years. How did Junior explain his incompetence? Oh, yeah ............ "it's not like he's leading a parade or something".


Bin Laden could have rented a house right across the street from the White House and Junior wouldn't have been able to find him.

Guest
05-14-2015, 05:59 PM
Like the price Osama Bin Laden paid?

You remember him ,don't you? The guy Junior couldn't find after looking for 7 years. How did Junior explain his incompetence? Oh, yeah ............ "it's not like he's leading a parade or something".


Bin Laden could have rented a house right across the street from the White House and Junior wouldn't have been able to find him.

And what do you think Obama's role was? Do you honestly think that he collected the intel, planned the mission, coordinated the logistics, and executed the mission? Just because he said "I got Bin Laden" doesn't mean he had a meaning role in any part of the mission, other that giving the O.K. and then watching the mission unfold in closed circuit TV--BIG DEAL.

Guest
05-14-2015, 06:21 PM
And what do you think Obama's role was? Do you honestly think that he collected the intel, planned the mission, coordinated the logistics, and executed the mission? Just because he said "I got Bin Laden" doesn't mean he had a meaning role in any part of the mission, other that giving the O.K. and then watching the mission unfold in closed circuit TV--BIG DEAL.

As has been stated in other threads..the seek and destroy of OBL started long before Obama came on the scene. And that Leopn Panetta was the real driving force for the final mission.

The reality is it just happened on Obama's watch.

Guest
05-14-2015, 06:42 PM
Like the price Osama Bin Laden paid?

You remember him ,don't you? The guy Junior couldn't find after looking for 7 years. How did Junior explain his incompetence? Oh, yeah ............ "it's not like he's leading a parade or something".


Bin Laden could have rented a house right across the street from the White House and Junior wouldn't have been able to find him.

Obama had very little to do with it ... I replied to you in an earlier post when you made a similar (uninformed and naive) comment

Guest
05-14-2015, 07:03 PM
Only those with a certifiable mental illness (ie liberalism) would be aghast about a President Rubio defending us, and making it clear to our enemies they will pay a price.
Who is going to pay for all this bravado? He said he would increase defense spending, increase social spending, and cut taxes. Another thing that might merit your attention before you start shooting is Russia, China, and Iran will be able to shoot back a hell of a lot more than Iraq or Afganistan did. Be very careful what you ask for.

Guest
05-14-2015, 07:15 PM
Who is going to pay for all this bravado? He said he would increase defense spending, increase social spending, and cut taxes. Another thing that might merit your attention before you start shooting is Russia, China, and Iran will be able to shoot back a hell of a lot more than Iraq or Afganistan did. Be very careful what you ask for.

I respectfully suggest you study up on the notion of peach through strength. Historically, weakness invites war whereas strength tends to prevents it.

I know it sounds counterintuitive but it's just the way the world has worked since antiquity. Reagan understood it, and that's why we won the Cold War ... in spite of all the fear mongers, nuclear freezniks and other lefties who protested his policies. I think Rubio understands this notion, and that's how I took his comment.

Guest
05-14-2015, 07:21 PM
Seems to most of us that he's spot on...but yeah...we'll wait till something happens to someone you care about....I'm certain you'll feel the same way then...

Guest
05-15-2015, 08:44 AM
Seems to most of us that he's spot on...but yeah...we'll wait till something happens to someone you care about....I'm certain you'll feel the same way then...


You seem to have a degree of cyniscm in your response. I'm curious, have you ever served?

Things can happen, and people can be shot at or killed in war. I remember being shot at in combat multiple times. Yes, I was scared but no, I did not all of a sudden change my philosophy about what's best for our Country and keeping it safe.

Sometimes you may have to pay a price. The longer you wait, and the more you put it off however, the price becomes much bigger.

Guest
05-15-2015, 09:56 AM
[QUOTE=Guest;1060488]You seem to have a degree of cyniscm in your response. I'm curious, have you ever served?

Things can happen, and people can be shot at or killed in war. I remember being shot at in combat multiple times. Yes, I was scared but no, I did not all of a sudden change my philosophy about what's best for our Country and keeping it safe.
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You were in combat and were shot at multiple times. I assume that was Vietnam. I was in the National Guard then and my job was to guard the Iowa border in the event that the VC crossed into Iowa after they captured Nebraska.

Guest
05-15-2015, 10:07 AM
[QUOTE=Guest;1060488]You seem to have a degree of cyniscm in your response. I'm curious, have you ever served?

Things can happen, and people can be shot at or killed in war. I remember being shot at in combat multiple times. Yes, I was scared but no, I did not all of a sudden change my philosophy about what's best for our Country and keeping it safe.
/QUOTE]

You were in combat and were shot at multiple times. I assume that was Vietnam. I was in the National Guard then and my job was to guard the Iowa border in the event that the VC crossed into Iowa after they captured Nebraska.

Cynical indeed ... probably best for everyone that you stayed in the rear echelon. I don't think I'd want you covering my back or that of my buddies.

Guest
05-15-2015, 10:14 AM
Obama had very little to do with it ... I replied to you in an earlier post when you made a similar (uninformed and naive) comment

Dear Guest: While it is being denied by the White House, surprise a news story is developing wherein a reporter for the New York Times verifies another version of the bin Laden find. it appears bin Laden was under constant guard by the Pakistan's intelligence for 6 years and that an intelligence officer was paid by the CIA the sum of $25 million for bin Laden's location.

I had wondered why we did not capture bin Laden rater than kill him because he was a most valuable source of information? While I am not a conspiracy theorist just because Washington claims he was shot and buried at sea doesn't mean it happened???????I do know that the Freedom of Information Act is becoming a joke and that both sides of the aisle are failing we the people

Will this story survive???


Personal Best Regards:

Guest
05-15-2015, 10:23 AM
Dear Guest: While it is being denied by the White House, surprise a news story is developing wherein a reporter for the New York Times verifies another version of the bin Laden find. it appears bin Laden was under constant guard by the Pakistan's intelligence for 6 years and that an intelligence officer was paid by the CIA the sum of $25 million for bin Laden's location.

I had wondered why we did not capture bin Laden rater than kill him because he was a most valuable source of information? While I am not a conspiracy theorist just because Washington claims he was shot and buried at sea doesn't mean it happened???????I do know that the Freedom of Information Act is becoming a joke and that both sides of the aisle are failing we the people

Will this story survive???


Personal Best Regards:

This story is complete BS and the product of Seymour Hersh's fevered imagination, similar to the 911 conspiracy theories about how the CIA supposedly blew up the WTC. Some people (not saying you) are best advised to get a grip ...

Guest
05-15-2015, 10:40 AM
This story is complete BS and the product of Seymour Hersh's fevered imagination, similar to the 911 conspiracy theories about how the CIA supposedly blew up the WTC. Some people (not saying you) are best advised to get a grip ...

Have you read this article -

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/magazine/the-detail-in-seymour-hershs-bin-laden-story-that-rings-true.html

If nothing else, it certainly raises a lot of questions. Not sure what you mean by "get a grip" - does that mean we should just believe everything we are told and not question anything? Not sure where you are coming from, after all, this is not Fox News. This is coming from the NY Times, HuffPo, and apparently NBC has also reported on this.

Guest
05-15-2015, 10:55 AM
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Cynical indeed ... probably best for everyone that you stayed in the rear echelon. I don't think I'd want you covering my back or that of my buddies.

I don't think that you have to worry about Liberals serving in the military in any large numbers. I think the only time that I've witness them putting their lives on the line is when they push their way to the front of the line at Dunkin' Donuts.

Guest
05-15-2015, 11:23 AM
Have you read this article -

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/magazine/the-detail-in-seymour-hershs-bin-laden-story-that-rings-true.html

If nothing else, it certainly raises a lot of questions. Not sure what you mean by "get a grip" - does that mean we should just believe everything we are told and not question anything? Not sure where you are coming from, after all, this is not Fox News. This is coming from the NY Times, HuffPo, and apparently NBC has also reported on this.

Skepticism is always good ... paranoia not so much. The blurb at the end of the article about "more openness" is humorous in connection with intelligence operations. (oxymoronic). I don't doubt that someone got the $25M reward by the way. But I laugh when I see people (not you) pump their chests and say Obama killed Osama. Obama was remote from the real action, and it was set into play LONG before he showed up. But, he jumped in to quickly take credit when we finally got him. That's consistent however with Obama's lack of character.

My disdain is especially aimed at the people who claim CIA or the USG in general secretly blew up the World Trade Center on 911. I was in DC at the time. When I see that type comment ...makes me shake my head at what some will believe. That speculation is sheer lunacy with a capital L.

Guest
05-15-2015, 11:28 AM
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I don't think that you have to worry about Liberals serving in the military in any large numbers. I think the only time that I've witness them putting their lives on the line is when they push their way to the front of the line at Dunkin' Donuts.

We would get butted out of line by the retired cops getting their daily "fat pills".

Guest
05-15-2015, 11:39 AM
[QUOTE=Guest;1060488] I was in the National Guard then and my job was to guard the Iowa border in the event that the VC crossed into Iowa after they captured Nebraska.

Ah, sort of like Junior Bush guarding the bars of Texas during the Vietnam years.

Guest
05-15-2015, 11:48 AM
[quote=Guest;1060522]

Ah, sort of like Junior Bush guarding the bars of Texas during the Vietnam years.

And what branch of the military did you serve in?

Guest
05-15-2015, 12:09 PM
Skepticism is always good ... paranoia not so much. The blurb at the end of the article about "more openness" is humorous in connection with intelligence operations. (oxymoronic). I don't doubt that someone got the $25M reward by the way. But I laugh when I see people (not you) pump their chests and say Obama killed Osama. Obama was remote from the real action, and it was set into play LONG before he showed up. But, he jumped in to quickly take credit when we finally got him. That's consistent however with Obama's lack of character.

My disdain is especially aimed at the people who claim CIA or the USG in general secretly blew up the World Trade Center on 911. I was in DC at the time. When I see that type comment ...makes me shake my head at what some will believe. That speculation is sheer lunacy with a capital L.

Thanks for your thoughtful and intelligent response......sure beats a lot of the other posting that goes on here. :smiley:

Guest
05-15-2015, 01:08 PM
[quote=Guest;1060579]

And what branch of the military did you serve in?

Army, 4th Infantry Division, 1966-69. And yourself?

Guest
05-15-2015, 01:16 PM
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Army, 4th Infantry Division, 1966-69. And yourself?

USMC: 1972-1978
USN: 1981-1998

Guest
05-15-2015, 01:47 PM
[quote=Guest;1060622]

USMC: 1972-1978
USN: 1981-1998

Ok for all you Navy vets, here's a video you might enjoy.

http://blog.theveteranssite.com/a-fun-us-navy-tribute/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=vetfan&utm_campaign=a-fun-us-navy-tribute&utm_term=20150322

Microaggression Warning: Liberals should NOT watch this video. It's way too patriotic and may causing foaming at the mouth, or cause you to curse uncontrollably American Exceptionalism, nationalism and other assorted "isms." It might even cause you to finally convert to Islam as a protest.

But, for everyone else who is normal and loves their Country along with the US Military, please have at it. :)

Guest
05-15-2015, 06:29 PM
[quote=Guest;1060625]

Ok for all you Navy vets, here's a video you might enjoy.

http://blog.theveteranssite.com/a-fun-us-navy-tribute/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=vetfan&utm_campaign=a-fun-us-navy-tribute&utm_term=20150322

Microaggression Warning: Liberals should NOT watch this video. It's way too patriotic and may causing foaming at the mouth, or cause you to curse uncontrollably American Exceptionalism, nationalism and other assorted "isms." It might even cause you to finally convert to Islam as a protest.

But, for everyone else who is normal and loves their Country along with the US Military, please have at it. :)

Great video! Thanks for the share! Inspirational to all who love this country and appreciate the efforts and service provided by our courageous military men and women. Hell Yeah!!

Guest
05-15-2015, 06:31 PM
I respectfully suggest you study up on the notion of peach through strength. Historically, weakness invites war whereas strength tends to prevents it.

I know it sounds counterintuitive but it's just the way the world has worked since antiquity. Reagan understood it, and that's why we won the Cold War ... in spite of all the fear mongers, nuclear freezniks and other lefties who protested his policies. I think Rubio understands this notion, and that's how I took his comment.
My question was how are you going pay for all this intervention. We have not paid for the first tomahawk missle we lobbed into Iraq yet. We are passing the cost to the generation that we sent over and their children.

Guest
05-15-2015, 07:45 PM
My question was how are you going pay for all this intervention. We have not paid for the first tomahawk missle we lobbed into Iraq yet. We are passing the cost to the generation that we sent over and their children.

The same way that we pay for everything else, we'll borrow the money from Japan and China, etc. Some people only worry about the cost when it come to military spending, while the cost of every other spending program is ignored.