Big Tipper

[Chatbrat]

We were at the Cane Garden ,having our bar side dinner Mon. This gentleman comes of the course orders 4 beverages, he asks the bar person,"how much", she says,"$4.70" he hands her a $5.00 bill and says,"keep the change"

The look on the bar person's face-was sheer amazement.

[billlaur]

so whats the problem?:BigApplause:

[DougB]

$4.70 for 4 drinks? What were the drinks? Water?

[redwitch]

The only amazing thing is that the bartender looked shocked. Most servers are used to very small tips. Fortunately, there are some that over tip, which helps but it really is common for servers to go home having made less than $7.00/hour. It truly stinks!

[wudda1955]

At least the guy tipped. He could just as easily have walked away with his .30 in change.

[nyclicker]

I would also like to know what 4 drinks I can get for $4.70

[CFrance]

Wow, what a cheapskate.

[Villager Joyce]

I suppose not everyone can leave a $20 tip like the person did the other day and then posted about it, but thirty cents is an insult. The good ole 20% rule works, with a little extra for extreme service.

[dbussone]

Wow, what a cheapskate.


This guy is beyond a cheapskate. I bet the only reason he told her to keep the change was because he didn't want the hassle of dealing with the change.

[dewilson58]

Maybe he left more on the table.

[tuccillo]

I believe the minimum in FL for tipped servers is $8.05/hour. The employer must make up the difference if the hourly wage and tips don't come out to that amount. I believe that is the way the law works.

The only amazing thing is that the bartender looked shocked. Most servers are used to very small tips. Fortunately, there are some that over tip, which helps but it really is common for servers to go home having made less than $7.00/hour. It truly stinks!

[outlaw]

I believe it is common practice that the bartenders get a portion of the tips that the wait staff gets. In essence, the bartenders are getting a portion of every tip in the restaurant. Also, it is not uncommon that a person buying at the bar, picking up their own order, not tip as one would if seated and being waited on. Similar to going to a fast food place. Do you tip the person handing you your order?

[CFrance]

I believe it is common practice that the bartenders get a portion of the tips that the wait staff gets. In essence, the bartenders are getting a portion of every tip in the restaurant. Also, it is not uncommon that a person buying at the bar, picking up their own order, not tip as one would if seated and being waited on. Similar to going to a fast food place. Do you tip the person handing you your order?
If they have a tip jar, I do. (Starbucks, the bagel place, etc.) We always tip the bartender when at the actual bar, because he or someone behind the bar is making or getting the drinks. If we're at the table eating, I would hope some of that tip goes to them.

I flunked waitressing in high school once. I still remember how hard it was. (But then I'm not a very good multi tasker...)

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The only amazing thing is that the bartender looked shocked. Most servers are used to very small tips. Fortunately, there are some that over tip, which helps but it really is common for servers to go home having made less than $7.00/hour. It truly stinks!

If that were true, it would be incumbent on the employer to make up the difference between the $7.00 and the minimum wage.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I believe it is common practice that the bartenders get a portion of the tips that the wait staff gets. In essence, the bartenders are getting a portion of every tip in the restaurant. Also, it is not uncommon that a person buying at the bar, picking up their own order, not tip as one would if seated and being waited on. Similar to going to a fast food place. Do you tip the person handing you your order?

That's an excellent point. I never tip for counter service. The people working behind the counter at McDonalds are being paid at least minimum wage. They are not servers.

And I would imagine that the four drinks for $4.70 were sodas and water. I don't know if tipping is appropriate for someone serving soda.

[CFrance]

That's an excellent point. I never tip for counter service. The people working behind the counter at McDonalds are being paid at least minimum wage. They are not servers.

And I would imagine that the four drinks for $4.70 were sodas and water. I don't know if tipping is appropriate for someone serving soda.

They're still readying the drink and serving it, though...

It's not exactly a cut-and-dried situation, is it. I like the European version, although nothing's to be done about poor service. But it's a career for them, so they are more attentive to their job performance, in our experience.

How did it work in the Philippines?

[looneycat]

can you get 4 drinks at cane gardens for $4.70?? so he's a cheapskate.

[redwitch]

Darden and many others just figure tips at a flat 18%, whether the actual tip is 5% or 25%. At the end of the evening, the server has to tip out the bartender, hostess, busboy, bar back and sometimes even the expediter. If you're unskilled, you really going to complain if wages come to less than minimum wage on occasion? How about if your child goes to the charter school? You really going to complain? It isn't fair, it isn't right but it is life here. Sometimes the law is irrelevant.

[beachx4me]

I would have given him the change and told him he probably needed it more. If you are going out and are served you should tip appropriately. If not, keep your cheap self at home!!!

[don leitstein]

maybe that's all he had on him

[beachx4me]

I believe the minimum in FL for tipped servers is $8.05/hour. The employer must make up the difference if the hourly wage and tips don't come out to that amount. I believe that is the way the law works.

I believe the minimum wage is different for tipped workers, my daughter lives and works in FL and I know she isn't getting that straight per hour. It has something to do with the amount of tips

[tuccillo]

Yes, that is what I stated. If their wage plus tips isn't $8.05 per hour the employer must make up the difference so they realize at least $8.05/hour. At least that is how I understand it works.

I believe the minimum wage is different for tipped workers, my daughter lives and works in FL and I know she isn't getting that straight per hour. It has something to do with the amount of tips

[redwitch]

That may be the law but the reality is vastly different.

[tuccillo]

Are you saying that you know tipped servers who are making less than the law specifies in FL (wages plus tips must be at least $8.05/hour)? Are you saying that you are aware of businesses who are in violation of the law? If so, please state the names of the businesses.

That may be the law but the reality is vastly different.

[redwitch]

Read what I said previously. The Darden chains for a start. Applebee's. Can only name those because I've seen it occur at those two places. I'd suggest you ask servers here if a restaurant has ever added to their hourly rate. Restaurants will use the excuse that they don't know actual tips since many tips are given in cash or partially in cash and partially on a card. They actually ignore the amount given for a tip (the servers do get the actual tip amount, whether five percent or twenty percent), calculate the tip at eighteen percent of the food amount and deduct a percentage of that amount for tip backs to other staff. My daughter once had to pay some of the tip backs out of her own pocket, so she actually made less than $3.35/hr that day, regardless of what was reported to the IRS. And let's not forget the off the clock work bartenders and servers are frequently required to do. Too much competition for these unskilled jobs for folks to complain.

[kstew43]

Maybe he left more on the table.

OP states the guy walked up to the counter......asked bartender for 4 drinks....was handed the drinks and carried them away....No table service was ever implied.

So why would you highly tip for a bartender to hand you 4 drinks.......

[CFrance]

OP states the guy walked up to the counter......asked bartender for 4 drinks....was handed the drinks and carried them away....No table service was ever implied.

So why would you highly tip for a bartender to hand you 4 drinks.......
Because he made them.

[kstew43]

Because he made them.

do you tip the cashier/server in mc donalds......kinda seems the same...???

[CFrance]

do you tip the cashier/server in mc donalds......kinda seems the same...???
I tip whoever has a tip jar out. But I don't eat at McDonalds or the other fast food places.

[outlaw]

I would have given him the change and told him he probably needed it more. If you are going out and are served you should tip appropriately. If not, keep your cheap self at home!!!

Then you should be fired for insulting the customer.

[KeepingItReal]

We were at the Cane Garden ,having our bar side dinner Mon. This gentleman comes of the course orders 4 beverages, he asks the bar person,"how much", she says,"$4.70" he hands her a $5.00 bill and says,"keep the change"

The look on the bar person's face-was sheer amazement.



Maybe he was still in shock from getting 4 drinks of anything for $4.70, there must be something more to this story.

:jester:

[red tail]

seems t o me the world would be a better place if people would mind their own business!

[kstew43]

That's an excellent point. I never tip for counter service. The people working behind the counter at McDonalds are being paid at least minimum wage. They are not servers.

And I would imagine that the four drinks for $4.70 were sodas and water. I don't know if tipping is appropriate for someone serving soda.

my point exactly.....

[sunnyatlast]

seems t o me the world would be a better place if people would mind their own business!

This is so true! As somebody said, maybe the person had already left a good tip at the table, and maybe these were lemonades or iced teas being taken out for golf.

However, the whole reason people are responding to this o.p. is because of how many people ARE that cheap with servers at tables and bartenders, to the extent that their stinginess toward others is a mental disorder!

[DougB]

Maybe if wrong about the $4.70 for 4 beverages, probably wrong about the $.30 tip.

[John_W]

Maybe if wrong about the $4.70 for 4 beverages, probably wrong about the $.30 tip.

It was probably more like $9.70 and he gave him a ten and said keep the change. I like the way OP's will disappear after starting a thread, don't they have a name for people like that?

[Chatbrat]

He was sweating so much & I told him I have a personal trainer & the key to hydration is taking your body weight -divide it in half & that # is the # of oz's of water you have to drink on a daily basis-,he said you mean I have to drink 170 oz's of water

[Bogie Shooter]

seems t o me the world would be a better place if people would mind their own business!

Me too.

[tuccillo]

What you are describing may be in violation of the law. Tips back to other staff are excluded from the minimum total amount per hour that is required by FL law. There is nothing stopping anyone from being an anonymous whistle blower.

Read what I said previously. The Darden chains for a start. Applebee's. Can only name those because I've seen it occur at those two places. I'd suggest you ask servers here if a restaurant has ever added to their hourly rate. Restaurants will use the excuse that they don't know actual tips since many tips are given in cash or partially in cash and partially on a card. They actually ignore the amount given for a tip (the servers do get the actual tip amount, whether five percent or twenty percent), calculate the tip at eighteen percent of the food amount and deduct a percentage of that amount for tip backs to other staff. My daughter once had to pay some of the tip backs out of her own pocket, so she actually made less than $3.35/hr that day, regardless of what was reported to the IRS. And let's not forget the off the clock work bartenders and servers are frequently required to do. Too much competition for these unskilled jobs for folks to complain.

[Bonanza]

At least the guy tipped. He could just as easily have walked away with his .30 in change.

You can't be serious??!?