Hit and run causes death to Marion County man

[graciegirl]

Thread title changed and moved to "non Villages" forum area.

Online news source was initially incorrect in reporting that victim was a Villager.

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This is headline on the site we cannot link;

Villager struck and killed by pickup truck that fled scene

This happened in Marion County and it sounds like in an area outside of The Villages(???) There was an eyewitness but the deceased is not named.

Very ups
tting and sad.

[Villager Joyce]

Incredible. What happened To us as a society? The driver had to know if it made enough noise for the witness to go investigate.

[villagetinker]

Where was the original article?

[Villager Joyce]

Where was the original article?

The first word is villages and the second word is news and there is a hyphen in tbe middle. It is a dot com

[John_W]

The story doesn't make a lot of sense. When I looked up the address it's northeast of Lake Weir off Rt 25, which the article confirms by saying the incident happened in the Lake Ocklawaha area. The article said a women after hearing a loud noise at 2:20 in the morning, went to investigate and she found the victim and recognized him as a neighbor. How does this information lead a news writer to believe it involved a villager?

[spring_chicken]

Odd that it's that far outside TV (a couple of miles the other side of Lake Weir) and the victim was walking at 2:20 in the morning and the eyewitness was his neighbor?

[Villager Joyce]

A person hit a human being and left him on the side of the road to die or dead. I was confused as well about the location and Villager connection.

[golfing eagles]

Unfortunetly just another reflection of where our society is heading as a whole---total lack of personal responsibility. The driver probably views himself as the victim---after all, this pedestrian got in his way at 2:20 AM, he feels "entitled" to use the road without sharing. Why should I ruin my life over him? I'll just leave the body lying there on the road like a squirrel or raccoon. The "government" should clean up my mess

[rubicon]

I want to acknowledge that this is a sad event indeed.

However hit and run accident have been going on since the beginning of time.

It is with this thought that it makes it all the worse because you would want to believe that we would be more civilized by now.

As some of you know i spent my entire career in insurance and unfortunately the fact is hit and run accidents are a common as doughnuts.

I recall investigating a pedestrian accident wherein a 20 year old woman was struck down and left on the highway only to have another car dragged her some 500 feet. Who I thought would not have come to this woman's aid leaving her there like a dog? We insured the second car. a president of a large corporation he did all he could to avoid what he thought was a winter coat lying in the road. He was totally unhinged and suffered pangs of guilty that probably followed him his entire life. In fact you could see the sadness overcome everyone who was some way involved in this investigation and ensuing follow ups

The hit and run driver was never found.

[bagboy]

The story doesn't make a lot of sense. When I looked up the address it's northeast of Lake Weir off Rt 25, which the article confirms by saying the incident happened in the Lake Ocklawaha area. The article said a women after hearing a loud noise at 2:20 in the morning, went to investigate and she found the victim and recognized him as a neighbor. How does this information lead a news writer to believe it involved a villager?

This was an attention grabbing headline by the online news source that was incredibly short on details and facts. For some reason, I expected better from this news source. In my mind you are correct in your thinking, and there is a whole lot more to this tragedy than what is known. It is sad when any human being is injured or loses their life senselessly. At some point the facts will be known.

[redwitch]

Odds are the driver was impaired. Sadly, for too many, the money and consequences comes before a life. It is much easier and cheaper to come forth the next day and say you didn't know you'd hit a human -- you thought it was a dog, a log, a bump in the road. Penalties would be far less. And, of course, there is the chance you'll never get caught if you don't turn yourself in. Taking responsibility for your actions really does seem to be far too common today.

[villagetinker]

OK, I went to the online news, and yes the headline says Villager hit......so I am guessing that the FHP have something to indicate the individual has a Villages address.

Also, according to the same online source, Marion County police are looking for a pickup truck, NO idea if this is related.

[graciegirl]

This was an intention grabbing headline by the online news source that was incredibly short on details and facts. For some reason, I expected better from this news source. In my mind you are correct in your thinking, and there is a whole lot more to this tragedy than what is known. It is sad when any human being is injured or loses their life senselessly. At some point the facts will be known.


I very much agree with every word in your post. And it is just a feeling I have..........

[sunnyatlast]

This was an intention grabbing headline by the online news source that was incredibly short on details and facts. For some reason, I expected better from this news source. In my mind you are correct in your thinking, and there is a whole lot more to this tragedy than what is known. It is sad when any human being is injured or loses their life senselessly. At some point the facts will be known.

The article says, "The deceased male has not been identified pending notification of next of kin."

And so what do they do? Provide just enough info to the public via worldwide web, to leave more questions than answers, while the next of kin don't even know he's dead yet.

And so red meat is thrown to "inquiring minds who want to know", and they feed on filling in the blanks with their own stories….until facts reveal whether the victim actually lived in The Villages, in Ocklawaha, or in Tumbuktu.

[Warren Kiefer]

This is headline on the site we cannot link;

Villager struck and killed by pickup truck that fled scene

This happened in Marion County and it sounds like in an area outside of The Villages(???) There was an eyewitness but the deceased is not named.

Very upsetting and sad.
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Anyone who has lived in Florida for a few years is well aware that if you hit someone with your car, you don't ever stop. This is especially true in the Orlando area.

[golfing eagles]

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Anyone who has lived in Florida for a few years is well aware that if you hit someone with your car, you don't ever stop. This is especially true in the Orlando area.

Seriously? Do you view this as a personal safety issue (from bystanders/crowds) or a law enforcement issue?
What if the victim was just injured and could make a full recovery with prompt medical care but would die without it?
If it was an accident, and you were not impaired, you are not looking at any criminal charges and probably just the inconvienence of some paperwork. If you leave, you'll probably be facing several felony charges up to and including vehicular manslaughter or depraved indifference murder 2
Personally, I don't think my Hippocratic Oath gives me an option.

[bagboy]

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Anyone who has lived in Florida for a few years is well aware that if you hit someone with your car, you don't ever stop. This is especially true in the Orlando area.

Are you serious??? I don't usually give too much thought to posts here and come back and add to a comment or question that I had but this is the one exception... I am thinking this was your way of pointing out the sad fact that hit and run accidents occur on a regular basis, unfortunately. And you are as disturbed by this incident, and hit and runs with injury and/or death as most of us are. I follow news in central Ohio and northeast South Carolina, and trust me they have their share of hit and runs.

[Justus]

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Anyone who has lived in Florida for a few years is well aware that if you hit someone with your car, you don't ever stop. This is especially true in the Orlando area.

Please tell us which roads you frequent and when, so that we can avoid them.

[golfing eagles]

If I ever get hit by a car in FL, I hope Ben Carson is driving, not the hit and run advocate posted above

[Villager Joyce]

I don't care if it was a villager. I don't care what street. I don't care if proper grammar was used. I don't care if the headline was a tease so you have to come back for more. I care that a human being was murdered. Instead of being murdered with a gun or knife, this person was murdered with a car, but still murdered.

[janmcn]

An updated article in the on-line news removes any reference to the victim being a Villages resident. The original article said that the neighbor who heard the noise recognized him as her neighbor. The victim had previously lived in Lady Lake.

[sunnyatlast]

I don't care if it was a villager. I don't care what street. I don't care if proper grammar was used. I don't care if the headline was a tease so you have to come back for more. I care that a human being was murdered. Instead of being murdered with a gun or knife, this person was murdered with a car, but still murdered.

Murder?

I hope you never have an "accident" which you never intended to have, result in accidental death of a person.

Leaving the victim is a whole other matter, which certainly is not "murder" either, though it is a crime.

Full Definition of MURDER

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: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought

[Villager Joyce]

When this person drove off he/she made it murder. This is IMHO. Obviously there are car accidents that result in a death? What word can/do they use? I've heard Vehicular homocide. What word would you use if this was your brother, father, Son or best friend?

[Goober III]

He was a resident of Ocklawaha, where the accident occurred.

[sunnyatlast]

When this person drove off he/she made it murder. This is IMHO. Obviously there are car accidents that result in a death? What word can/do they use? I've heard Vehicular homocide. What word would you use if this was your brother, father, Son or best friend?

I would say they were "killed" by a car, and leave the legal determinations up to the police and prosecutors, who charge the driver with criminal and/or misdemeanor charges.

That's their job, and they'll certainly do more of an investigation about intent (or not) than what this forum and conjecture can provide.

[Villager Joyce]

I would say they were "killed" by a car, and leave the legal determinations up to the police and prosecutors, who charge the driver with criminal and/or misdemeanor charges.

That's their job, and they'll certainly do more of an investigation about intent (or not) than what this forum and conjecture can provide.

Rather than get into word smithing and legal determinations, fine. Tbe person was killed by a Person driving a car and left on the side of the road like a bag of trash. The car didn't kill the person any more than a gun kills a person.

[Moderator]

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