Waco Biker Brawl

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Waco Biker Brawl: Scores Arrested After Shootout at Twin Peaks Bar - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/192-arrested-after-deadly-biker-brawl-shootout-waco-texas-bar-n360536)


Nine people were killed and another 18 were injured in a shooting outside of a biker bar in Waco Texas. Another 165 to 175 have been arrested, and some could be charged with capital murder.

A poster on another thread recently said there are no white on white shootings. Well, here you go. Many of those arrested had white supremacy tattoos.

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This Photo Is Raising Questions About How Police Are Treating White Bikers After A Mass Murder | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/17/3659874/photo-raising-questions-police-treating-white-bikers-mass-murder/)


Notice how casually these prisoners, who could be charged with capital murder, are being treated by the police. None are handcuffed and all shown have access to their cell phones. These gangs also reportedly shot at police.

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Waco Biker Brawl: Scores Arrested After Shootout at Twin Peaks Bar - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/192-arrested-after-deadly-biker-brawl-shootout-waco-texas-bar-n360536)


Nine people were killed and another 18 were injured in a shooting outside of a biker bar in Waco Texas. Another 165 to 175 have been arrested, and some could be charged with capital murder.

A poster on another thread recently said there are no white on white shootings. Well, here you go. Many of those arrested had white supremacy tattoos.

As with black on black, what is there to say...no political gains to be made.

Listen, white on white, black on white, black on black.....they do not count at all,

What counts only is black on white.

Sad, but true !!! I assume you watch the news and are aware of that.

Neat though that Al Sharpton's daughter is suing New York City for FIVE million dollars....for a sprained ankle that did not keep her from climbing a mountain and posing for pics on that mountain which was in Indonesia !!!

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We shouldn't be joking about bikers now. We should be trying to help them find wives and families to help them be better people. Clearly these gang members were raised by single-moms who relied on food stamps and always looking for hand-outs. If they would have just stayed in school their lives would be much different. It's likely they wear hoodies when it's cold.

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We shouldn't be joking about bikers now. We should be trying to help them find wives and families to help them be better people. Clearly these gang members were raised by single-moms who relied on food stamps and always looking for hand-outs. If they would have just stayed in school their lives would be much different. It's likely they wear hoodies when it's cold.

You are probably not far from the truth, even though you jest, it happens to both black & white.

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Clearly these bikers grew up in families without father figures. If they would just go out and get jobs, they wouldn't have time for these shenanigans. And now they are threatening to kill the police. Lock them all up and throw away the key.

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170 Gang Members Charged In Waco Shootings Each Held On $1M Bond (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/waco-biker-gang-shooting-twin-peaks-charges?utm_content=buffer9417a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)


Each of the 170 bikers arrested yesterday in this melee are being held on one million dollars bond, and capital murder charges are expected to be filed on an unspecified number of them.

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Why is a criminal happening on the Political forum?

The judge had good sense to make bail very high for all those arrested.

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That's the trouble with your whites - they travel in gangs, they don't respect the law, they threaten good people and law enforcement, they're all tatted up, and they all carry weapons. Likely they are all unemployed and on food stamps. It's all the fault of liberal policies and Obama.

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Why is a criminal happening on the Political forum?

The judge had good sense to make bail very high for all those arrested.

Dear Guest: You are right with your first sentence. I believe I sit this one out because the last I looked at my bona fides "expert criminologist" wasn't among them.

Personal Best Regards:

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We shouldn't be joking about bikers now. We should be trying to help them find wives and families to help them be better people. Clearly these gang members were raised by single-moms who relied on food stamps and always looking for hand-outs. If they would have just stayed in school their lives would be much different. It's likely they wear hoodies when it's cold.





Obviously, they need more guns - probably rocket launchers as well. Can't be too prepared these days, what with Obama getting ready to invade Texas and all.

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Obviously, they need more guns - probably rocket launchers as well. Can't be too prepared these days, what with Obama getting ready to invade Texas and all.

You know what they say about folks who always kid or make jokes of a serious subject?

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Gang members. 5 gangs involved. At least 170 arrested. Police tried to warn management of gangs but they failed to take the warning serious. All those white people arrested yet no whites out on streets setting fires and looting. Hmm guess white people must feel you commit the crime , you pay the time (no matter what color you are). Those cops never received orders to stand down

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Gang members. 5 gangs involved. At least 170 arrested. Police tried to warn management of gangs but they failed to take the warning serious. All those white people arrested yet no whites out on streets setting fires and looting. Hmm guess white people must feel you commit the crime , you pay the time (no matter what color you are). Those cops never received orders to stand down

The silence is so........telling!

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Charges filed against 170 motorcycle gang members in Texas - AOL.com (http://www.aol.com/article/2015/05/18/charges-filed-against-170-motorcycle-gang-members-in-texas/21184753/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D-1660906244)


Waco is crawling with law enforcement, everybody from FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, plus local police. The biker groups have threatened police and others.

It's a little unclear, what would protesters be protesting if they were there tonight protesting? These groups are obviously very dangerous gangs with members all over the country, and perhaps all over the world.

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You know what they say about folks who always kid or make jokes of a serious subject?

No, not really, but I call them Morons.

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I thought the days of protesting were over and looting, setting fires, destroying property were in

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Waco, TX and whites messing with whites........certainly not a current administration priority or any value to the agenda.

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You know what they say about folks who always kid or make jokes of a serious subject?





A serious subject?

http://www.newsweek.com/obamas-invasion-texas-when-partisanship-becomes-extreme-sport-330947

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That's the trouble with your whites - they travel in gangs, they don't respect the law, they threaten good people and law enforcement, they're all tatted up, and they all carry weapons. Likely they are all unemployed and on food stamps. It's all the fault of liberal policies and Obama.

It pains you when you have to acknowledge the truth about black on white violence and family dysfunction -- because it violates the tenets of your secular liberal/religious faith. In fact, it's threatening to your core. Hence, when you see this atypical story about the bikers you just can't resist.

Unfortunately for all of us, we still have to deal with the reality we all pretty much know is true based on experience. Nonetheless, your sarcasm was mildly entertaining

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Waco Biker Brawl: Scores Arrested After Shootout at Twin Peaks Bar - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/192-arrested-after-deadly-biker-brawl-shootout-waco-texas-bar-n360536)


Nine people were killed and another 18 were injured in a shooting outside of a biker bar in Waco Texas. Another 165 to 175 have been arrested, and some could be charged with capital murder.

A poster on another thread recently said there are no white on white shootings. Well, here you go. Many of those arrested had white supremacy tattoos.

Yes, and did you notice the mobs of white people looting, rioting and burning down their neighborhoods in protest? Waco is "Baptist Central" and, while I know these riots must have occurred, the media must have forgotten to show it. What do you think?

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Texas's Senators Vocal About Baltimore And Ferguson, Totally Silent On Waco Shootout | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/20/3660499/texass-senators-vocal-baltimore-ferguson-totally-silent-waco-shootout/)


Texas Senators John Cornyn and Ted Cruz were very vocal condemning the shooting in Baltimore and Ferguson, but have yet to make a statement about the gangs of thugs shooting at police in their own back yard.

Cornyn and Cruz went so far as to say the shooting in Baltimore and Ferguson were about absent fathers. No word yet on what they think caused these gangs of outlaws in Waco to shoot at law enforcement.

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Texas's Senators Vocal About Baltimore And Ferguson, Totally Silent On Waco Shootout | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/20/3660499/texass-senators-vocal-baltimore-ferguson-totally-silent-waco-shootout/)


Texas Senators John Cornyn and Ted Cruz were very vocal condemning the shooting in Baltimore and Ferguson, but have yet to make a statement about the gangs of thugs shooting at police in their own back yard.

Cornyn and Cruz went so far as to say the shooting in Baltimore and Ferguson were about absent fathers. No word yet on what they think caused these gangs of outlaws in Waco to shoot at law enforcement.

"Think Progress" is your source? This is a far left rag of the worst type.

In any event, I'm gonna guess Cruz and Cornyn are opposed to crime regardless of color. Why do you think that would be a difficult topic anyway when it's self evident?

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Texas's Senators Vocal About Baltimore And Ferguson, Totally Silent On Waco Shootout | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/20/3660499/texass-senators-vocal-baltimore-ferguson-totally-silent-waco-shootout/)


Texas Senators John Cornyn and Ted Cruz were very vocal condemning the shooting in Baltimore and Ferguson, but have yet to make a statement about the gangs of thugs shooting at police in their own back yard.

Cornyn and Cruz went so far as to say the shooting in Baltimore and Ferguson were about absent fathers. No word yet on what they think caused these gangs of outlaws in Waco to shoot at law enforcement.

Gunfights and shootouts are part of Texan lore. Criticizing that heritage could cost you votes.

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"Think Progress" is your source? This is a far left rag of the worst type.

In any event, I'm gonna guess Cruz and Cornyn are opposed to crime regardless of color. Why do you think that would be a difficult topic anyway when it's self evident?

This website...."Think Progress"...is considered by both right AND LEFT to be the most political, farthest left, and "moral less" of all the biased websites. Their claims against the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which were proven to be made up and just lies, even caused a few liberal fact checkers to apologize a few years ago.

Quoting them or using them as a source tells you a lot.....and it doe not matter if you are left or right, if this is a source, you admittedly care little, or not at all, about facts. Faiz Shakir, who now works for Nancy Pelosi, edited this site for years. He used to raise funds for anti Israel terror groups. He is an avowed anti semitic..

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Wife of biker inmate: Some arrested in Texas are innocent - AOL.com (http://www.aol.com/article/2015/05/20/wife-of-biker-inmate-some-arrested-in-texas-are-innocent/21185364/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl6%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D715899789 )


It could be weeks and possibly months before the 170 arrested could get a bail reduction hearing. No bail bondsmen in Waco will write a one million dollar bond, so unless these bikers have one million in cash, they are in jail for the long haul. The number of arrested could grow as some of the injured are released from the hospital.

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This website...."Think Progress"...is considered by both right AND LEFT to be the most political, farthest left, and "moral less" of all the biased websites. Their claims against the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which were proven to be made up and just lies, even caused a few liberal fact checkers to apologize a few years ago.

Quoting them or using them as a source tells you a lot.....and it doe not matter if you are left or right, if this is a source, you admittedly care little, or not at all, about facts. Faiz Shakir, who now works for Nancy Pelosi, edited this site for years. He used to raise funds for anti Israel terror groups. He is an avowed anti semitic..

It always amazes me that people come on this site to defend the poor, the blacks, call others racist and unfeeling, THEN support a website, a man, a group who hates Jews because they are Jews, and supports terrorism of that group up to and including death.

Over time in seeing this, I simply laugh at any of those folks making any moral judgement. Anyone who supports terrorism, or hate of a group of people because they are Jewish or any other religion is DEAD MORALLY, and has lost all rights to judge any other.

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It always amazes me that people come on this site to defend the poor, the blacks, call others racist and unfeeling, THEN support a website, a man, a group who hates Jews because they are Jews, and supports terrorism of that group up to and including death.

Over time in seeing this, I simply laugh at any of those folks making any moral judgement. Anyone who supports terrorism, or hate of a group of people because they are Jewish or any other religion is DEAD MORALLY, and has lost all rights to judge any other.


And this has exactly what to do with the biker brawl in Waco? Is anyone disputing that the Texas senators have not spoken out? Or can anyone produce a link showing that the two Texas senators have spoken out and condemned this violence which occurred in their own back yard?

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And this has exactly what to do with the biker brawl in Waco? Is anyone disputing that the Texas senators have not spoken out? Or can anyone produce a link showing that the two Texas senators have spoken out and condemned this violence which occurred in their own back yard?

Worthless discussion.

Anyone who uses a website like this and repeats their hatred will not understand context and cannot understand the differences in the cases cited.

Problem with this kind of venom is that they do not care, do not present it to the reader, and have folks like you who repeat it.

Actually not many quotes from either right or left on this episode. Perhaps most understand what happened and are not trying to make a political issue or race issue of it. The website you quote and have done so in the past will find in EVERY story, a political or racial hate theme.

Sad that people like this poster just accept this hate, and then actually repeat it.

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And this has exactly what to do with the biker brawl in Waco? Is anyone disputing that the Texas senators have not spoken out? Or can anyone produce a link showing that the two Texas senators have spoken out and condemned this violence which occurred in their own back yard?

At least we now all know where you get your hate-filled ideological guidance from ... (ie "Think Progress" aka "Think Hate") not only on the biker topic but pretty much everything you post especially topics relating to Hillary Clinton!

You should try broadening your source base and opening your mind

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Wife of biker inmate: Some arrested in Texas are innocent - AOL.com (http://www.aol.com/article/2015/05/20/wife-of-biker-inmate-some-arrested-in-texas-are-innocent/21185364/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl6%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D715899789 )


It could be weeks and possibly months before the 170 arrested could get a bail reduction hearing. No bail bondsmen in Waco will write a one million dollar bond, so unless these bikers have one million in cash, they are in jail for the long haul. The number of arrested could grow as some of the injured are released from the hospital.

Sniff sniff ... this is a major tragedy? Lock them up and throw away the key.

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And this has exactly what to do with the biker brawl in Waco? Is anyone disputing that the Texas senators have not spoken out? Or can anyone produce a link showing that the two Texas senators have spoken out and condemned this violence which occurred in their own back yard?
When someone questions the reliability of some bat guano crazy right wing site a lot of Guests point out that we should judge the message, not the source. That philosophy should go both ways to be fair.

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When someone questions the reliability of some bat guano crazy right wing site a lot of Guests point out that we should judge the message, not the source. That philosophy should go both ways to be fair.

I agree and I, along with others addressed that not many quotes to be had on either side of the political spectrum, because there is no comparison.

However, it should be pointed out that the site referenced does exactly the same thing on any event...find something political or race related..that is what they do.

Again, most did EXACTLY what you ask....but I M not seeing any quotes from either side and certainly, not related to race except by those who are "gaiters".

Pointing out the lack of a quote by two men when I am not seeing ANY quotes is simply looking for trouble.

If you, or the OP are looking for a race discussion, or trying to bait one, you will need to find instances that are comparable.

Heck, at this point they have no idea of exactly how many of these thugs were shot by police, if you are trying to get police on this one, nor have I heard anyone complain about their behavior.

If it is black vs white that you wish to stir up....have at it...I sure don't see any racial issues at all.

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Yes, and did you notice the mobs of white people looting, rioting and burning down their neighborhoods in protest? Waco is "Baptist Central" and, while I know these riots must have occurred, the media must have forgotten to show it. What do you think?

I have noticed the crime in Baltimore exploding, and making Waco look peaceful.

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Sniff sniff ... this is a major tragedy? Lock them up and throw away the key.

God Bless America. Lock up the innocent and throw away the key!

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God Bless America. Lock up the innocent and throw away the key!

And how does one go about concluding the innocence of those that have been arrested?

Maybe you should contact the Waco police with the information you have.

When folks have no personal investment in a situation they can pontificate almost anything as there is no risk to them personally. So easy to arm chair quarter back. Not a mistake can be made!

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And how does one go about concluding the innocence of those that have been arrested?

Maybe you should contact the Waco police with the information you have.

When folks have no personal investment in a situation they can pontificate almost anything as there is no risk to them personally. So easy to arm chair quarter back. Not a mistake can be made!

That's what I was thinking ... its EZ for one's heart to bleed from afar, and while comfortably ensconced in the Monday morning quarterback recliner

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That's what I was thinking ... its EZ for one's heart to bleed from afar, and while comfortably ensconced in the Monday morning quarterback recliner


YEP....those who readily and easily condemned police in Ferguson and other places making hero of PROVEN criminal and did with NO facts whatsoever and did it based on skin color are great examples of that

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YEP....those who readily and easily condemned police in Ferguson and other places making hero of PROVEN criminal and did with NO facts whatsoever and did it based on skin color are great examples of that

Ironically, the liberals who protest racism turn out to be the biggest racists of all, and most especial with their bigotry of low expectations as they routinely display towards African Americans.

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And how does one go about concluding the innocence of those that have been arrested?

Maybe you should contact the Waco police with the information you have.

When folks have no personal investment in a situation they can pontificate almost anything as there is no risk to them personally. So easy to arm chair quarter back. Not a mistake can be made!

Read. It's an important skill. Never said I had any information. Not pontificating. Not arm chair quarterbacking. Not saying that the Waco police did anything wrong.

I was replying to a post that said we should lock people up and throw away the keys regardless of their guilt or innocence.

So get off your high horse.

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Read. It's an important skill. Never said I had any information. Not pontificating. Not arm chair quarterbacking. Not saying that the Waco police did anything wrong.

I was replying to a post that said we should lock people up and throw away the keys regardless of their guilt or innocence.

So get off your high horse.

It looks like there are a lot of people on this forum who believe that that is exactly what we should do. As long as the police arrest someone, they must be guilty. Off with their heads!

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It looks like there are a lot of people on this forum who believe that that is exactly what we should do. As long as the police arrest someone, they must be guilty. Off with their heads!

I think what people were saying with regards to the Waco incident ... there were a whole bunch of people there who broke the law. The police needed to sweep up the lot to quell the mayhem. If there's some innocent people caught up, let's deal with it ... but, the takeaway point (especially for the Monday morning quarterbacks ... not saying you're one BTW) is the police had to act.

Look at Baltimore to see what happens when the police are no longer around. Not even liberals want that ... I think ?

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I think what people were saying with regards to the Waco incident ... there were a whole bunch of people there who broke the law. The police needed to sweep up the lot to quell the mayhem. If there's some innocent people caught up, let's deal with it ... but, the takeaway point (especially for the Monday morning quarterbacks ... not saying you're one BTW) is the police had to act.

Look at Baltimore to see what happens when the police are no longer around. Not even liberals want that ... I think ?

That might be what you think they're saying. But what was actually said, in reference to innocent people being caught up in the sweep, was "lock them up and throw away the key". That was the plan to "deal with it".

And when an intrepid guest tried to point out that that was a bit over the top several other guests maligned him/her.

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Looks like most of these 1% bikers are old fat white guys.

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Looks like most of these 1% bikers are old fat white guys.
I think I saw a few here on a lifestyle preview.