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CFrance
05-23-2015, 12:52 PM
Good news for fromage fiends: a new study suggests a link between cheese consumption and a longer, healthier life



Cheese: the secret to a longer life and faster metabolism? - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/11567702/The-secret-to-a-longer-life-and-faster-metabolism-Eating-cheese.html)


I'm hoping this will last till tomorrow. There sure appear to be many different ways to eat in order to lead a long and healthy life.


Excuse me while I go get out the gorgonzola. I also have a link to a chart of wine and cheese pairings that is very interesting. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelysanders/cheese-genius#.cg5dy3w77o

dbussone
05-23-2015, 12:57 PM
I'll check out the chart as soon as I get some Canadian cheddar and New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc.

sunnyatlast
05-23-2015, 01:01 PM
Good news for fromage fiends: a new study suggests a link between cheese consumption and a longer, healthier life



Cheese: the secret to a longer life and faster metabolism? - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/11567702/The-secret-to-a-longer-life-and-faster-metabolism-Eating-cheese.html)


I'm hoping this will last till tomorrow. There sure appear to be many different ways to eat in order to lead a long and healthy life.


Excuse me while I go get out the gorgonzola. I also have a link to a chart of wine and cheese pairings that is very interesting. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelysanders/cheese-genius#.cg5dy3w77o

Good Job!!!!

:pepper2: :pepper2: :pepper2:

dbussone
05-23-2015, 01:03 PM
I'll check out the chart as soon as I get some Canadian cheddar and New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc.


Oh. Oh. The chart says I should have rose with cheddar. Too bad, the chart is wrong.

graciegirl
05-23-2015, 01:09 PM
Oh. Oh. The chart says I should have rose with cheddar. Too bad, the chart is wrong.

Look on the chart and see what it says about Cheeze Whiz with Frito's and Diet Coke.

Barefoot
05-23-2015, 01:15 PM
I'll check out the chart as soon as I get some Canadian cheddar and New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc.

I can provide the aged Canadian Cheddar cheese if you bring up a bottle of wine (and also bring CFrance)!
Visitors from Florida are always welcome! :pepper2:

dbussone
05-23-2015, 01:17 PM
I can provide the aged Canadian Cheddar cheese if you bring up a bottle of wine, (and also bring CFrance!)
Visitors from Florida are always welcome! :pepper2:


And a couple of other TOTV friends.

dbussone
05-23-2015, 01:21 PM
Look on the chart and see what it says about Cheeze Whiz with Frito's and Diet Coke.


I think anything in the Boone's Farm line of reserved varietals would work well. Perhaps a nice rhubarb?

Madelaine Amee
05-23-2015, 02:44 PM
Good news for fromage fiends: a new study suggests a link between cheese consumption and a longer, healthier life



Cheese: the secret to a longer life and faster metabolism? - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/11567702/The-secret-to-a-longer-life-and-faster-metabolism-Eating-cheese.html)


I'm hoping this will last till tomorrow. There sure appear to be many different ways to eat in order to lead a long and healthy life.


Excuse me while I go get out the gorgonzola. I also have a link to a chart of wine and cheese pairings that is very interesting. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelysanders/cheese-genius#.cg5dy3w77o

Great recipes on that Telegraph site ............... will be trying some of those! Thanks.

CFrance
05-23-2015, 02:49 PM
Oh. Oh. The chart says I should have rose with cheddar. Too bad, the chart is wrong.
Ew. I agree. I have some nice Sauvignon Blanc right here, but I lack the cheddar.

So confusing... what to buy first, the cheese or the wine.:mmmm:

dbussone
05-23-2015, 03:24 PM
Ew. I agree. I have some nice Sauvignon Blanc right here, but I lack the cheddar.

So confusing... what to buy first, the cheese or the wine.:mmmm:


Buy the wine and ask Bare to FedEx the cheese - priority overnight. Canadian cheddar is just so much much better than ours. I guess I just have an international palate. ::jester::

CFrance
05-23-2015, 03:26 PM
Buy the wine and ask Bare to FedEx the cheese - priority overnight. Canadian cheddar is just so much much better than ours. I guess I just have an international palate. ::jester::
Or maybe I'll go up there and get it in person! Make her take me swimming in the lake.

manaboutown
05-23-2015, 03:30 PM
How about Velveeta with a bum wine such as Thunderbird? Will that do the trick?

Seriously, I do enjoy Camembert with a nice Bordeaux upon occasion.

dbussone
05-23-2015, 03:40 PM
Or maybe I'll go up there and get it in person! Make her take me swimming in the lake.


Canadian cheddar and many other things about Canada are fabulous. But their lakes are too darned cold.

My favorite trip in Canada was a 7 day round trip on the Royal Canadian Pacific Railroad. Calgary was the start/finish as we traveled through the Canadian Rockies.

CFrance
05-23-2015, 03:41 PM
How about Velveeta with a bum wine such as Thunderbird? Will that do the trick?

Seriously, I do enjoy Camembert with a nice Bordeaux upon occasion.
Yes! Or some Boone's Farms.

CFrance
05-23-2015, 03:42 PM
Canadian cheddar and many other things about Canada are fabulous. But their lakes are too darned cold.

My favorite trip in Canada was a 7 day round trip on the Royal Canadian Pacific Railroad. Calgary was the start/finish as we traveled through the Canadian Rockies.
We spent lots of time at Canadian Lakes. But on them, not in them.:cold:

DougB
05-23-2015, 04:18 PM
Good news for fromage fiends: a new study suggests a link between cheese consumption and a longer, healthier life



Cheese: the secret to a longer life and faster metabolism? - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/11567702/The-secret-to-a-longer-life-and-faster-metabolism-Eating-cheese.html)


I'm hoping this will last till tomorrow. There sure appear to be many different ways to eat in order to lead a long and healthy life.


Excuse me while I go get out the gorgonzola. I also have a link to a chart of
wine and cheese pairings that is very interesting. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelysanders/cheese-genius#.cg5dy3w77o

One thing is for certain. Not eating will shorten your life substantially.

dbussone
05-23-2015, 04:35 PM
One thing is for certain. Not eating will shorten your life substantially.


You Betcha Doug. I think a certain other poster might even agree.

graciegirl
05-23-2015, 06:05 PM
I hate to be left out. Tonight I got out a good plate and put several pieces of Kraft American and we all unwrapped ours from the plastic and put it on a Ritz. Sweetie had a Yeungling and Helene and I had Iced Tea.

How'm I doin'?

Wandatime
05-23-2015, 06:10 PM
I have a double cream brie and some champagne in the refrigerator just waiting for an occasion.

Wait -- I'm on the right side of the dirt! Occasion found!

Wandatime
05-23-2015, 06:11 PM
I hate to be left out. Tonight I got out a good plate and put several pieces of Kraft American and we all unwrapped ours from the plastic and put it on a Ritz. Sweetie had a Yeungling and Helene and I had Iced Tea.

How'm I doin'?

American cheese on a Ritz cracker? Sheldon may give Sweetie a run for his money :smiley:

CFrance
05-23-2015, 06:18 PM
All healthy people partaking of cheese for a longer life. Like.

dbussone
05-23-2015, 06:28 PM
We've just had a cheese pizza from Bravo. And a Sam Adams to go with it.

Barefoot
05-23-2015, 06:30 PM
I have a double cream brie and some champagne in the refrigerator just waiting for an occasion.
Wait -- I'm on the right side of the dirt! Occasion found!

Alert -- party at Wanda's house in Collier! :evil6:

blueash
05-24-2015, 06:54 AM
Best deleted movie scene...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKwcT5GExJA

"Why do Americans people only eat Cheese"

scrapple
05-24-2015, 07:14 AM
It's the best news I've seen in months!

leftyf
05-24-2015, 08:10 AM
Great, I guess my double cheeseburger and a beer isn't as bad for me as everybody says.

CFrance
05-24-2015, 09:03 AM
Best deleted movie scene...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKwcT5GExJA

"Why do Americans people only eat Cheese"
That is the clean scene. The next one after that... whoa!

Good ole Borat.

graciegirl
05-24-2015, 09:17 AM
That is the clean scene. The next one after that... whoa!

Good ole Borat.

Never heard of Borat. Is it a liberal thing? :1rotfl:

blueash
05-24-2015, 09:26 AM
Never heard of Borat. Is it a liberal thing? :1rotfl:

Well the Russians hated it as well as the Arab countries. It was a huge commercial as well as critical success. from wikipedia

the film was a critical and commercial success. Baron Cohen won the 2007 Golden Globe Award for Best Actor: Musical or Comedy, as Borat, while the film was nominated for Best Motion Picture in the same category.[6] Borat was also nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay at the 79th Academy Awards.

Controversy surrounded the film even two years prior to release, and after the film's release, some cast members spoke against, and even sued, its creators. It was banned in all Arab countries except Lebanon,[7] and the Russian government discouraged Russian cinemas from showing it

graciegirl
05-24-2015, 09:37 AM
Well the Russians hated it as well as the Arab countries. It was a huge commercial as well as critical success. from wikipedia


Yeah. I just read that.

Carry on.

TheVillageChicken
05-24-2015, 09:42 AM
My secret combo

http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-e76d/k2-_b3de028e-5e19-4ac4-bb3d-c38c3977652f.v1.jpg

http://www.plateoftheday.com/food_blog/nightTrainNThunderbird.gif

rubicon
05-24-2015, 10:16 AM
The ubiquitous search for the secret to longevity has frustrated man ever since Eve seduce Adam and mankind lost paradise. Think about that for a moment two words "Trust me" killed the golden goose or cooked our goose.

However, good news. Dan Buettner, author of Blue Zone Solution: Eating and Living Like The World's Healthiest People" explains that the book of Genesis had the answer all along when it directed ëat the fruits of seed bearing plants (beans) Longevity is attributed to the people of Sardinia because of fava beans, to Costa Rica black beans, lentils in Ikaria and soy beans in Okinawa.

Dollar for dollar most beans deliver more protein than beef. And bean's high fiber content serves as a gut compost of sorts enabling healthy bacteria to thrive

Ever since I was a kid it intrigued me that cowboys ate a lot of beef and beans on the trail . So now we know why? And so I followed suit. Fava beans were served a variety of ways in my family The favorite being fava beans with greens. Beans and franks another simple solution

So your search is over....that is until the next authority comes along with a newer and hence better discovery


Personal Best Regards:

Madelaine Amee
05-24-2015, 10:32 AM
The ubiquitous search for the secret to longevity has frustrated man ever since Eve seduce Adam and mankind lost paradise. Think about that for a moment two words "Trust me" killed the golden goose or cooked our goose.

However, good news. Dan Buettner, author of Blue Zone Solution: Eating and Living Like The World's Healthiest People" explains that the book of Genesis had the answer all along when it directed ëat the fruits of seed bearing plants (beans) Longevity is attributed to the people of Sardinia because of fava beans, to Costa Rica black beans, lentils in Ikaria and soy beans in Okinawa.

Dollar for dollar most beans deliver more protein than beef. And bean's high fiber content serves as a gut compost of sorts enabling healthy bacteria to thrive

Ever since I was a kid it intrigued me that cowboys ate a lot of beef and beans on the trail . So now we know why? And so I followed suit. Fava beans were served a variety of ways in my family The favorite being fava beans with greens. Beans and franks another simple solution

So your search is over....that is until the next authority comes along with a newer and hence better discovery


Personal Best Regards:

Your command of the English language always amazes me, never more than your opening sentence above - well done Rubicon! (and it all comes down to beans)

Cedwards38
05-24-2015, 11:41 AM
Does that cheese on the burger count, or is that really even cheese?

Cedwards38
05-24-2015, 11:44 AM
The ubiquitous search for the secret to longevity has frustrated man ever since Eve seduce Adam and mankind lost paradise. Think about that for a moment two words "Trust me" killed the golden goose or cooked our goose.

However, good news. Dan Buettner, author of Blue Zone Solution: Eating and Living Like The World's Healthiest People" explains that the book of Genesis had the answer all along when it directed ëat the fruits of seed bearing plants (beans) Longevity is attributed to the people of Sardinia because of fava beans, to Costa Rica black beans, lentils in Ikaria and soy beans in Okinawa.

Dollar for dollar most beans deliver more protein than beef. And bean's high fiber content serves as a gut compost of sorts enabling healthy bacteria to thrive

Ever since I was a kid it intrigued me that cowboys ate a lot of beef and beans on the trail . So now we know why? And so I followed suit. Fava beans were served a variety of ways in my family The favorite being fava beans with greens. Beans and franks another simple solution

So your search is over....that is until the next authority comes along with a newer and hence better discovery


Personal Best Regards:

Ahhhh,
Bean, beans
The musical fruit
The more you eat
The better it suit.

CFrance
05-24-2015, 05:01 PM
Ahhhh,
Bean, beans
The musical fruit
The more you eat
The better it suit.
Ha ha, that's not how I heard it.:MOJE_whot:

CFrance
05-24-2015, 05:03 PM
The ubiquitous search for the secret to longevity has frustrated man ever since Eve seduce Adam and mankind lost paradise. Think about that for a moment two words "Trust me" killed the golden goose or cooked our goose.

However, good news. Dan Buettner, author of Blue Zone Solution: Eating and Living Like The World's Healthiest People" explains that the book of Genesis had the answer all along when it directed ëat the fruits of seed bearing plants (beans) Longevity is attributed to the people of Sardinia because of fava beans, to Costa Rica black beans, lentils in Ikaria and soy beans in Okinawa.

Dollar for dollar most beans deliver more protein than beef. And bean's high fiber content serves as a gut compost of sorts enabling healthy bacteria to thrive

Ever since I was a kid it intrigued me that cowboys ate a lot of beef and beans on the trail . So now we know why? And so I followed suit. Fava beans were served a variety of ways in my family The favorite being fava beans with greens. Beans and franks another simple solution

So your search is over....that is until the next authority comes along with a newer and hence better discovery


Personal Best Regards:

I might add...

Jesus was not a vegetarian. The Bible records Jesus eating fish (Luke 24:42-43 (http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Luke%2024.42-43)) and lamb (Luke 22:8-15 (http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Luke%2022.8-15)). Jesus miraculously fed the crowds fish and bread, a strange thing for Him to do if He was a vegetarian (Matthew 14:17-21 (http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Matthew%2014.17-21)). In a vision to the apostle Peter, Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15 (http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Acts%2010.10-15)). After the flood in Noah's time, God gave humanity permission to eat meat (Genesis 9:2-3 (http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Genesis%209.2-3)). God has never rescinded this permission.
Read more: Was Jesus a vegetarian? Should a Christian be a vegetarian (or vegan)? (http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Christian-vegetarian.html#ixzz3b60jDv3u)

dbussone
05-24-2015, 05:17 PM
So let it be written, so let it be done.

Mrs. Robinson
05-25-2015, 05:03 AM
Wow! With all the stuff about vegan, vegetarian and meat diets lately, this is a real eye opener. This should bring on some interesting reading within the next few days.

Personally, I'm salivating just thinking about a grilled cheese sandwich on a croissant with some black forest ham. It's nothing elaborate but oh-so-good.

CFrance
05-25-2015, 07:07 AM
Wow! With all the stuff about vegan, vegetarian and meat diets lately, this is a real eye opener. This should bring on some interesting reading within the next few days.

Personally, I'm salivating just thinking about a grilled cheese sandwich on a croissant with some black forest ham. It's nothing elaborate but oh-so-good.
Oh, thanks. I'm going to have to go have six or eight of those now.:laugh:

dbussone
05-25-2015, 07:19 AM
Wow! With all the stuff about vegan, vegetarian and meat diets lately, this is a real eye opener. This should bring on some interesting reading within the next few days.

Personally, I'm salivating just thinking about a grilled cheese sandwich on a croissant with some black forest ham. It's nothing elaborate but oh-so-good.

Annnnnddddddd........you forgot the sliced tomato! (that makes it ok for vaygans)

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-25-2015, 08:00 AM
The ubiquitous search for the secret to longevity has frustrated man ever since Eve seduce Adam and mankind lost paradise. Think about that for a moment two words "Trust me" killed the golden goose or cooked our goose.

However, good news. Dan Buettner, author of Blue Zone Solution: Eating and Living Like The World's Healthiest People" explains that the book of Genesis had the answer all along when it directed ëat the fruits of seed bearing plants (beans) Longevity is attributed to the people of Sardinia because of fava beans, to Costa Rica black beans, lentils in Ikaria and soy beans in Okinawa.

Dollar for dollar most beans deliver more protein than beef. And bean's high fiber content serves as a gut compost of sorts enabling healthy bacteria to thrive

Ever since I was a kid it intrigued me that cowboys ate a lot of beef and beans on the trail . So now we know why? And so I followed suit. Fava beans were served a variety of ways in my family The favorite being fava beans with greens. Beans and franks another simple solution

So your search is over....that is until the next authority comes along with a newer and hence better discovery


Personal Best Regards:

You had me until you mentioned beans and franks. There's noting healthy about American baked beans with their high sugar content.And pairing them with nitrate laced meat by products does not make for a life extending meal.
I do love my hot dogs and beans however. But I'm with you on beans. They are a great food.

Cheese? I don't know. Sounds plausible but I think the jury's still out and it may be limited to certain types of cheese.

One thing that I have to point out is that American cheese and products like Cheese Whiz are not cheese at all. some of them are labeled correctly as
"processed cheese products". Not sure exactly what that means but they are not what's being discussed in this article. I don't know how some of these companies have been allowed to label American "cheese" as cheese.

Anyroad, I like my mozzarella, muenster as well as most of the other varieties.

graciegirl
05-25-2015, 08:12 AM
You had me until you mentioned beans and franks. There's noting healthy about American baked beans with their high sugar content.And pairing them with nitrate laced meat by products does not make for a life extending meal.
I do love my hot dogs and beans however.

Nathans. Has to be Nathans, or Hebrew National. AND I just learned THAT since moving here.

However my baked beans ARE sweet and generally disappear.

One can Bushes Vegetarian Beans.
1/2 sweet onion minced fine.
Nice squirt of yellow mustard.
Tablespoon (I guess) of Worcestershire sauce.
Teaspoon of vinegar.
Two nasty sounding squirts of catsup.
A generous bunch of brown sugar. Let me guess..A third of a cup?

Cook low and slow for a couple hours...

Serve with potato salad.
One boiled egg for every potato.
Hellmanns mayonnaise.
Lots of SWEET onion.

You can add other things, but that is how I like it.

AND have some Angus beef burgers. On Potato Buns. Martins.

WITH CHEESE. WHITE CHEDDAR.

simpkinp
05-25-2015, 10:32 AM
Ooh, what time is dinner?

CFrance
05-25-2015, 10:46 AM
Nathans. Has to be Nathans, or Hebrew National. AND I just learned THAT since moving here.

However my baked beans ARE sweet and generally disappear.

One can Bushes Vegetarian Beans.
1/2 sweet onion minced fine.
Nice squirt of yellow mustard.
Tablespoon (I guess) of Worcestershire sauce.
Teaspoon of vinegar.
Two nasty sounding squirts of catsup.
A generous bunch of brown sugar. Let me guess..A third of a cup?

Cook low and slow for a couple hours...

Serve with potato salad.
One boiled egg for every potato.
Hellmanns mayonnaise.
Lots of SWEET onion.

You can add other things, but that is how I like it.

AND have some Angus beef burgers. On Potato Buns. Martins.

WITH CHEESE. WHITE CHEDDAR.
Oh, good. The cheddar makes it all heart-healthy.:evil6:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-25-2015, 03:31 PM
Nathans. Has to be Nathans, or Hebrew National. AND I just learned THAT since moving here.

However my baked beans ARE sweet and generally disappear.

One can Bushes Vegetarian Beans.
1/2 sweet onion minced fine.
Nice squirt of yellow mustard.
Tablespoon (I guess) of Worcestershire sauce.
Teaspoon of vinegar.
Two nasty sounding squirts of catsup.
A generous bunch of brown sugar. Let me guess..A third of a cup?

Cook low and slow for a couple hours...

Serve with potato salad.
One boiled egg for every potato.
Hellmanns mayonnaise.
Lots of SWEET onion.

You can add other things, but that is how I like it.

AND have some Angus beef burgers. On Potato Buns. Martins.

WITH CHEESE. WHITE CHEDDAR.

A lot of people rave about Nathans and Hebrew National. I actually prefer the cheapest lightest pink hot dogs I can find.

My mother would occasionally make home made baked beans from scratch. (I'm from Boston so it's almost mandatory). She buy the dried beans and soak them over night. The she'd add onions, spices, pork and molasses and bake them in a clay pot for hours. They were awesome.

dbussone
05-25-2015, 03:35 PM
A lot of people rave about Nathans and Hebrew National. I actually prefer the cheapest lightest pink hot dogs I can find.


My brother used to work for the FDA and inspected food and food plants.

Doc - may I please suggest you start using Hebrew National or Nathan's. I don't need to say anything else.

Mrs. Robinson
05-25-2015, 10:33 PM
A lot of people rave about Nathans and Hebrew National. I actually prefer the cheapest lightest pink hot dogs I can find.

My mother would occasionally make home made baked beans from scratch. (I'm from Boston so it's almost mandatory). She buy the dried beans and soak them over night. The she'd add onions, spices, pork and molasses and bake them in a clay pot for hours. They were awesome.

My brother used to work for the FDA and inspected food and food plants.

Doc - may I please suggest you start using Hebrew National or Nathan's. I don't need to say anything else.

FDA or no FDA, thank you dbussone, for your comment. Doc's comments would go hand-in-hand with Philadelphia Scrapple which I think was made with whatever was swept off the floor.

Me? I prefer to stick with "those who answer to a higher source."

CFrance
05-25-2015, 10:48 PM
Our dog has to have Hot Dog Soup because he doesn't drink enough water. I won't even use anything but all natural, no nitrates hot dogs to make it!

Actually, there's another brand, all beef, all natural, no nitrates. Angus smoked uncured beef franks. Oscar Mayer.

dbussone
05-26-2015, 06:49 AM
FDA or no FDA, thank you dbussone, for your comment. Doc's comments would go hand-in-hand with Philadelphia Scrapple which I think was made with whatever was swept off the floor.



Me? I prefer to stick with "those who answer to a higher source."


Well put.

CFrance
05-26-2015, 09:17 AM
FDA or no FDA, thank you dbussone, for your comment. Doc's comments would go hand-in-hand with Philadelphia Scrapple which I think was made with whatever was swept off the floor.

Me? I prefer to stick with "those who answer to a higher source."
Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name panhaas or "pan rabbit," is traditionally a mush of pork scraps and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour, often buckwheat flour, and spices. The mush is formed into a semi-solid congealed loaf, and slices of the scrapple are then pan-fried before serving.

The terms mush and scraps and trimmings, congealed and pan-fried (presumably in Crisco or lard) all point to something less than appetizing. Unless maybe you grew up eating it. But I'll stick with heart-healthy cheese.

glgene
05-26-2015, 10:21 AM
How about a combo of Velveeta cheese and Mogan David wine?

Not exactly what they would offer at a swanky restaurant?! <g>

dbussone
05-26-2015, 10:46 AM
How about a combo of Velveeta cheese and Mogan David wine?

Not exactly what they would offer at a swanky restaurant?! <g>

I'm not a Velveeta fan, but the Morgan David should help.

CFrance
05-26-2015, 10:53 AM
How about a combo of Velveeta cheese and Mogan David wine?

Not exactly what they would offer at a swanky restaurant?! <g>

I'm not a Velveeta fan, but the Morgan David should help.
The only thing that bothers me about Velveeta is that a loaf (that term alone is a problem) can remain "fressh" for years, alongside another loaf--of Wonderbread.

But hey, surround a loaf of Velveeta with parsley and put it out for your next party on a pretty tray, some Ritz and a gallon of Mogan David with little Dixie Cups...

dbussone
05-26-2015, 10:59 AM
The only thing that bothers me about Velveeta is that a loaf (that term alone is a problem) can remain "fressh" for years, alongside another loaf--of Wonderbread.

But hey, surround a loaf of Velveeta with parsley and put it out for your next party on a pretty tray, some Ritz and a gallon of Mogan David with little Dixie Cups...

The downside of Velveeta can also be a pro. The fact that it can remain fresh for years means that it could be useful in your hurricane emergency food supply. Think about it!

By the way, I like the Dixie cup idea.

CFrance
05-26-2015, 11:13 AM
The downside of Velveeta can also be a pro. The fact that it can remain fresh for years means that it could be useful in your hurricane emergency food supply. Think about it!

By the way, I like the Dixie cup idea.
Good point! And even dogs like cheese.

Barefoot
05-26-2015, 12:11 PM
Our dog has to have Hot Dog Soup because he doesn't drink enough water. I won't even use anything but all natural, no nitrates hot dogs to make it!

Lucky Crosby :doggie: to have a mom that faithfully makes him hot dog soup, and even makes sure it's nitrate free!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-26-2015, 01:14 PM
Lucky Crosby :doggie: to have a mom that faithfully makes him hot dog soup, and even makes sure it's nitrate free!

Interesting. I found this when researching nitrate free hot dogs.

Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates | Serious Eats (http://www.seriouseats.com/2008/01/cooking-with-kids-nitratefree-hot-dogs.html)

CFrance
05-26-2015, 01:42 PM
Interesting. I found this when researching nitrate free hot dogs.

Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates | Serious Eats (http://www.seriouseats.com/2008/01/cooking-with-kids-nitratefree-hot-dogs.html)
Actually, it says that right on the package. It even lists that the nitrates come from celery. They are naturally occurring, not some chemical addition.

Frankly (ha ha), I wouldn't eat a hotdog, period.

Barefoot
05-26-2015, 02:39 PM
Interesting. I found this when researching nitrate free hot dogs.

Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates | Serious Eats (http://www.seriouseats.com/2008/01/cooking-with-kids-nitratefree-hot-dogs.html)


The Nitrate and Nitrite Myth: Another Reason not to Fear Bacon (http://chriskresser.com/the-nitrate-and-nitrite-myth-another-reason-not-to-fear-bacon/)

dbussone
05-26-2015, 02:43 PM
The Nitrate and Nitrite Myth: Another Reason not to Fear Bacon (http://chriskresser.com/the-nitrate-and-nitrite-myth-another-reason-not-to-fear-bacon/)



Not only don't I fear bacon; I LOVE BACON.

CFrance
05-26-2015, 03:35 PM
Bacon! BaconBaconBaconBaconBacon! mmmmmmmm!

LuckySevens
05-26-2015, 04:50 PM
I LOVE me some bacon, but I am one of those weirdo's that HATES cheese....all cheese! You can all have my share.

Mrs. Robinson
05-26-2015, 04:56 PM
You Betcha Doug. I think a certain other poster might even agree.

Oh, please. Why did you even say that? You'll plant the idea in his head!

dbussone
05-26-2015, 04:57 PM
I LOVE me some bacon, but I am one of those weirdo's that HATES cheese....all cheese! You can all have my share.

Excellent. What are the top 5 you dislike the most? I'll use those (maybe) for a cocktail party.

Mrs. Robinson
05-26-2015, 05:07 PM
Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name panhaas or "pan rabbit," is traditionally a mush of pork scraps and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour, often buckwheat flour, and spices. The mush is formed into a semi-solid congealed loaf, and slices of the scrapple are then pan-fried before serving.

The terms mush and scraps and trimmings, congealed and pan-fried (presumably in Crisco or lard) all point to something less than appetizing. Unless maybe you grew up eating it. But I'll stick with heart-healthy cheese.

I tried to be polite by saying whatever they swept off the floor, but you're a little too graphic for me.

I think I'm gonna be sick!

dbussone
05-26-2015, 07:41 PM
Oh, please. Why did you even say that? You'll plant the idea in his head!


Oh oh sorry! I understand.

LuckySevens
05-26-2015, 09:21 PM
Excellent. What are the top 5 you dislike the most? I'll use those (maybe) for a cocktail party.

Parmesan
Blue cheese
Camembert
Limburger
cheddar
I haven't tasted of many others but the smell of most cheese turns my stomach. I can take very very light Mozzarella on a pizza which is loaded with strong tasting stuff like pepperoni, bacon, etc. as the meat overpowers the cheese taste. However, I still pick any 'clumps' of the cheese off it.

dbussone
05-27-2015, 07:04 AM
Parmesan

Blue cheese

Camembert

Limburger

cheddar

I haven't tasted of many others but the smell of most cheese turns my stomach. I can take very very light Mozzarella on a pizza which is loaded with strong tasting stuff like pepperoni, bacon, etc. as the meat overpowers the cheese taste. However, I still pick any 'clumps' of the cheese off it.


Sorry you don't get along with cheese. I find cheese and friends go well together. But I'm sure you've found an alternative.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-27-2015, 07:21 AM
Actually, it says that right on the package. It even lists that the nitrates come from celery. They are naturally occurring, not some chemical addition.

Frankly (ha ha), I wouldn't eat a hotdog, period.

And the article states:

the nitrites naturally occurring in celery juice are exactly the same as the pure sodium nitrite added by sausage makers.

I don't think that it's "some chemical". Nitrates are extracted from various food sources and then added to the dogs.

graciegirl
05-27-2015, 08:25 AM
Back to cheese.

I remember a bag of dripping cheese hanging on the clothesline in Columbus, Ohio MANY years ago when I was a kid.

Schmear Case?

We ate all kinds of organ meet back then. It is only if you THINK about it.

We are blessed to have plenty and able to make choices.

CFrance
05-27-2015, 10:51 AM
And the article states:



I don't think that it's "some chemical". Nitrates are extracted from various food sources and then added to the dogs.
It's interesting to read up on this. I have learned a couple of things, among them...

"Sodium nitrate: When cooked or broken down in the stomach, nitrites form nitrosamines, which can cause cancer in young children and pregnant women.

"Spinach, beets, lettuce, celery, parsley, and cabbages are among vegetables with high concentrations of nitrates. The amount is determined by the plant’s genetic age, and the amount of nitrate in the soil. Don’t stop eating these veggies, many of them also contain vitamin C, naturally limiting the formation of the toxic nitrosamines."

What is Cultured Celery Extract? | Eating Real, Being Real (http://www.eatingrealbeingreal.com/what-is-cultured-celery-extract/)

It's a dilemma, but I guess I'd rather have a naturally occurring nitrate in the food then a processed chemical one.

graciegirl
05-27-2015, 11:08 AM
It's interesting to read up on this. I have learned a couple of things, among them...

"Sodium nitrate: When cooked or broken down in the stomach, nitrites form nitrosamines, which can cause cancer in young children and pregnant women.

"Spinach, beets, lettuce, celery, parsley, and cabbages are among vegetables with high concentrations of nitrates. The amount is determined by the plant’s genetic age, and the amount of nitrate in the soil. Don’t stop eating these veggies, many of them also contain vitamin C, naturally limiting the formation of the toxic nitrosamines."

What is Cultured Celery Extract? | Eating Real, Being Real (http://www.eatingrealbeingreal.com/what-is-cultured-celery-extract/)

It's a dilemma, but I guess I'd rather have a naturally occurring nitrate in the food then a processed chemical one.

I am pretty sure your body doesn't know the difference.

Sometimes those "natural supplement" sites are not too accurate.

CFrance
05-27-2015, 11:19 AM
I am pretty sure your body doesn't know the difference.

Sometimes those "natural supplement" sites are not too accurate.
I guess my point was that the natural foods containing nitrates also contain other nutrients necessary to break down the harmful cancer-causing parts of nitrates that the chemical nitrates do not.

So I would rather have all natural hotdogs with celery juice in them, containing vitamin C, than a hotdog with a manufactured nitrate in it.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-27-2015, 12:37 PM
I guess my point was that the natural foods containing nitrates also contain other nutrients necessary to break down the harmful cancer-causing parts of nitrates that the chemical nitrates do not.

So I would rather have all natural hotdogs with celery juice in them, containing vitamin C, than a hotdog with a manufactured nitrate in it.

For the record, I don't believe that nitrate can be manufactured. It's extracted from certain foods and used as a preservative.

But we're talking about hot dogs here. I think that it would have to be a real stretch to consider any of them to be healthy.

CFrance
05-27-2015, 01:07 PM
For the record, I don't believe that nitrate can be manufactured. It's extracted from certain foods and used as a preservative.

But we're talking about hot dogs here. I think that it would have to be a real stretch to consider any of them to be healthy.
On that we can agree!