View Full Version : Xeriscaping = Water Conservation
KGL Landscaping
05-29-2015, 01:03 PM
Xeriscaping is a water conservation concept to utilize water efficient landscape designs to save water, but are also attractive.
Xeriscapes do not have to be cactus or rock gardens. Often they include other native and drought tolerant plants. When you think of dry gardening, you may picture a wild, natural looking landscape. But the xeriscape water conservation principles can be applied to different styles of landscaping. You can create a more formal English, Southwestern, or Japanese garden using the same basic principles. In arid and semiarid climates, where water conservation is important, xeriscaping is a wise choice. Xeriscaping can also be used to reduce the amount of maintenance required for a beautiful yard or garden.
kcrazorbackfan
05-30-2015, 09:55 PM
Ok, but would something like that on a large scale be approved? I would like to turn most of my yard into something along that line.
graciegirl
05-31-2015, 05:35 AM
Ok, but would something like that on a large scale be approved? I would like to turn most of my yard into something along that line.
You must have a certain amount grass I am thinkin'.
Call and see first.
mickey100
05-31-2015, 06:09 AM
Ok, but would something like that on a large scale be approved? I would like to turn most of my yard into something along that line.
In 2001 the Florida legislature said Florida homeowners wishing to minimize maintenance and reduce water bills should consider Florida-friendly landscaping and enacted Florida Statute Section 720.3075:
Homeowners’ association documents, including declarations of covenants, articles of incorporation, or bylaws, entered after October 1, 2001, may not prohibit any property owner from implementing Xeriscape or Florida-friendly landscape, as defined in s. 373.185(1), on his or her land.
So it is a state law. However, that doesn't mean such a landscaping plan will be approved by The Villages. If it is not approved, you'd have to sue The Villages or in some way get them to change any ordinances that are in place so they would comply with the state law.
There was another thread talking about this issue, the xeriscaping is somewhere in the middle of the thread: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/purpose-street-easement-114264/
LndLocked
05-31-2015, 08:12 AM
In 2001 the Florida legislature said Florida homeowners wishing to minimize maintenance and reduce water bills should consider Florida-friendly landscaping and enacted Florida Statute Section 720.3075:
Homeowners’ association documents, including declarations of covenants, articles of incorporation, or bylaws, entered after October 1, 2001, may not prohibit any property owner from implementing Xeriscape or Florida-friendly landscape, as defined in s. 373.185(1), on his or her land.
So it is a state law. However, that doesn't mean such a landscaping plan will be approved by The Villages. If it is not approved, you'd have to sue The Villages or in some way get them to change any ordinances that are in place so they would comply with the state law.
There was another thread talking about this issue, the xeriscaping is somewhere in the middle of the thread: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/purpose-street-easement-114264/
This is exactly correct and their have been cases of a homeowner successfully suing a HOA over FF landscaping ... and that is what would prob need to happen a time or two in TV.
mickey100
05-31-2015, 09:26 AM
Its a shame that a person would have to go that route. The law was passed with water conservation in mind, something for the public good.
Bonnevie
05-31-2015, 10:30 AM
anyone interested in doing that should come to a meeting of the Florida Native Plant Society on the 4th Fri of the month at Big Cypress at 1:30pm. Steve, the president, totally removed all his grass and with approval. You can get the information needed to do that.
graciegirl
05-31-2015, 12:23 PM
This can get political real quick.
I like the grass. Our sins are so great now that we have a pool that we may never flush again.
laceylady
05-31-2015, 02:12 PM
I believe that Steve of FNPS still has 750 sq. ft. Of grass on an 11,000 sq. ft. Lot. At least that is what he told me. Florida Friendly Landscaping examples published in their book all show grassy areas surrounded by plants. I do not know why this is, I too would prefer NO GRASS. Zoysia grass doesn't get very green and the story about it requiring less water is a fable, per my experience.
JoMar
05-31-2015, 02:19 PM
This is exactly correct and their have been cases of a homeowner successfully suing a HOA over FF landscaping ... and that is what would prob need to happen a time or two in TV.
The Villages doesn't have a true HOA.....they are advocates.
Irishmen
05-31-2015, 10:39 PM
I remember that Pooter crew tricking residents into pulling up their grass and putting that artificial grass in front yards by quoting this legislation telling residents they didn't need ARC approval. Then only after residents were threatened legal action sued by the villages these residents were forced at their expense to remedy.
Barefoot
05-31-2015, 11:20 PM
anyone interested in doing that should come to a meeting of the Florida Native Plant Society on the 4th Fri of the month at Big Cypress at 1:30pm. Steve, the president, totally removed all his grass and with approval. You can get the information needed to do that.
Bonnevie, for those of us who can't attend the Friday meeting, could you please post and give us an idea of what Steve did.
And what approvals he received to do it.
I think a lot of us would be interested in no grass (with approval, of course).
Villageswimmer
06-01-2015, 05:06 AM
Bonnevie, for those of us who can't attend the Friday meeting, could you please post and give us an idea of what Steve did.
And what approvals he received to do it.
I think a lot of us would be interested in no grass (with approval, of course).
I usually go to the meeting but am now up north. I'd love to see photos of Steve's yard. My understanding is that TV has begun to embrace native plants.
Love2Swim
06-01-2015, 05:32 AM
I usually go to the meeting but am now up north. I'd love to see photos of Steve's yard. My understanding is that TV has begun to embrace native plants.
That would be good news, if the Villages has begun to embrace native plants and water saving measures regarding lawns.
graciegirl
06-01-2015, 05:49 AM
That would be good news, if the Villages has begun to embrace native plants and water saving measures regarding lawns.
I know that in both new homes here the foundation plantings were plants that easily survived here locally. I love the way they do that.
A swimming pool holds a LOT of water, I wonder how folks who conserve water feel about that. We just put one in. The evaporation daily is signicant.
T and D saved all of our foundation plants in the corner of our yard and replanted them after the pool was finished. I was so pleased.
LndLocked
06-01-2015, 07:10 AM
The Villages doesn't have a true HOA.....they are advocates.
I used "HOA" as a stand in term for ANY one / thing that is normally in charge of enforcing rules / restrictions / convents that would prevent a homeowner from doing a FF / xeriscaping per the Florida Statutes.
graciegirl
06-01-2015, 08:38 AM
I am gonna get slaughtered for this, but I hope it doesn't catch on because I don't like the way it looks. It reminds me of Arizona.
Ozzello
06-02-2015, 06:54 PM
Save a bunch of water and use Bahia grass. Better yet.. centipede grass.
If zoysia was a good grass for this area, we would have been using it here before TV Construction decided on using it a rainy summer a few years back.
Landscape with NATIVE plants?.. Plums, dogwoods, pines ,NATIVE magnolias. Muhley grass, WAX myrtle, oh wait, those aren't real pretty..and kind of expensive.
Seems everyone wants to save the environment, until they find out it costs more than kicking it under the bus.
Bonnevie
06-03-2015, 08:01 AM
you can find information about the native plant society and Steve's contact information here. He can tell you how he did it and probably and can show you photos.
The Villages Home - TheVillages (http://thevillages.fnpschapters.org/)
LndLocked
06-03-2015, 09:19 AM
Ok .... I gotta ask, is his name really Steve Turnipseed ????
of course I did once have a "Shop" teacher in school named Mr. Hammer .... I promise!
Indydealmaker
06-03-2015, 09:48 AM
In 2001 the Florida legislature said Florida homeowners wishing to minimize maintenance and reduce water bills should consider Florida-friendly landscaping and enacted Florida Statute Section 720.3075:
Homeowners’ association documents, including declarations of covenants, articles of incorporation, or bylaws, entered after October 1, 2001, may not prohibit any property owner from implementing Xeriscape or Florida-friendly landscape, as defined in s. 373.185(1), on his or her land.
So it is a state law. However, that doesn't mean such a landscaping plan will be approved by The Villages. If it is not approved, you'd have to sue The Villages or in some way get them to change any ordinances that are in place so they would comply with the state law.
There was another thread talking about this issue, the xeriscaping is somewhere in the middle of the thread: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/purpose-street-easement-114264/
What is the point of worrying about irrigation water consumption when the water we use for irrigation is recycled water from storm water runoff?
Bonnevie
06-03-2015, 10:45 AM
it's not always unlimited. and using less will save on your irrigation fee. the following is what Pinellas County recently posted:
Reduced Reclaimed Water Availability
To alleviate the risk of running out of reclaimed water, action is being taken to reduce daily system demands. Customers will have reclaimed water available two days per week for irrigation beginning May 4, 2015.
On Mondays, Thursdays, and Fridays the reclaimed water system will be down for maintenance and storage level recovery.
Please follow the watering schedule below for the remaining days based on your address.
Barefoot
06-03-2015, 01:15 PM
you can find information about the native plant society and Steve's contact information here. He can tell you how he did it and probably and can show you photos.
The Villages Home - TheVillages (http://thevillages.fnpschapters.org/)
I've emailed Steve requesting more information. Thanks Bonnevie.
LndLocked
06-03-2015, 04:28 PM
What is the point of worrying about irrigation water consumption when the water we use for irrigation is recycled water from storm water runoff?
1- No reclaimed water for residential irrigation north of 466.
2 - Why is it still not a good idea to conserve???????????????
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