Almost witnessed fight at Sharon

[hulahips]

Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

[Yung Dum]

I can never understand why people take pictures instead of watching the show they paid to see.

[golfing eagles]

I guess no matter where you live, there is always someone who does not think the rules apply to THEM.

[CFrance]

I can never understand why people take pictures instead of watching the show they paid to see.
Me neither. We borrowed a videocamera once to take on a trip and ended up putting it away after the first day. Couldn't see the forest for the trees.

You have to wonder why the guy just didn't go get an usher.

[TheVillageChicken]

Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

Ironically, it sounds like the complainant was more annoying than the scofflaw.

[2BNTV]

I was at KB's when Donna Moore was appearing and a couple were talking so loudly, it ruined the performance for me. They also got up and were dancing in the aisle in front of me obviously blocking the view. I let management know and they were spoken to.

How rude and inconsiderate some people can be. Some people think it's all about them. :(

I would have reported this episode to management when it started to happen and let them handle the inconsiderate person.

[hulahips]

I could see maybe trying to snap one quick picture of the performer but then you really should put it away especially since they made the announcement prior to the show. In the dark I guess the lights the phones give off can be distracting. Maybe the fellow didn't want to run around to find an usher and miss the show is all I can think of

[Hancle704]

There are some VIP's very important people (in their mind only) who are of opinion that rules do not apply to them and show no consideration for others. They are at shows, movie theaters, on the road and town squares. Might as well get used to the reality that they exist and they won't change.

[missypie]

Years ago my parents took me to the Met in NY. A woman sitting in front of us was humming along with the opera singer. My dad leaned into her and said "I paid to hear Her sing not you". Boy, that shut her up fast.

[2BNTV]

I could see maybe trying to snap one quick picture of the performer but then you really should put it away especially since they made the announcement prior to the show. In the dark I guess the lights the phones give off can be distracting. Maybe the fellow didn't want to run around to find an usher and miss the show is all I can think of

Probably that is the case but doing a slow burn and being annoyed throughout the whole performance would not have been an option for me. I'd rather have missed a couple of songs, that ruin the whole evening. By yelling at the end of the performance, he makes himself look bad to those around him. IMHO

What part did this idiot not understand about putting away all phones and cameras? The show is meant to be enjoyed by all people and just not those who feel they are more entitled.

Went to a Ranger game at Tampa and some idiot constantly stood up at seminal moments in the game as if he had paid more for his ticket than people sitting behind him and all they could see was his back. I felt like whacking in the head with a broom, to knock some sense in him, but that's me.

You can't fix stupid!

[Barefoot]

I keep waiting for the day that a person being complained about in a thread is a member of TOTV.
I've been waiting since 2007, but it's never happened.
Or perhaps the person being complained about is too embarrassed to post a defense. :shrug:

[sunnyatlast]

Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

[Boudicca]

We were at the Black Tie Gala First Night show with Pattie Lupone as the performer. Despite the requests for no cameras etc., people up front took pictures throughout the performance. You can't fix stupid, nor selfish.

[duffysmom]

Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[billybye]

Where was management (ushers etc.) while this was going on

[outlaw]

Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

It's called a loving relationship...

[kcrazorbackfan]

Where was management (ushers etc.) while this was going on

Haven't you learned why yet? This is "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" and the only people that have the power to slap someone's hand and not be concerned with losing their business are Law Enforcement Officer's. Any management to an establishment that caters to the public is not going to say anything to offend the egos of the "people that are legends in their own mind".

[JoMar]

We have been to a couple shows at The Sharon and have experienced the same camera idiots. One reason they don't want you to use the camera is the show is copywrited and the performer doesn't want their performances compromised. The second is the distraction for others watching the show. When the phones or worse, the tablets, are held up, the people behind can't see. It's a matter of respect, for both the performers and the people that attend. When I have attended other shows in strongly managed venues, people that turn on a camera or tablet have been escorted from the venue. I have also been to performances where the act has stopped performing. I fear, that until The Sharon takes a strong management position the venue will not be the Performing Arts Center that was envisioned, but an extension of the Savannah Center and the squares where those that ignore the rules successfully will encourage more to do the same and the audiences will deteriorate in behavior. We already see people attending in torn jeans and tee shirts. It's up to management to determine what they want The Sharon to represent.......maybe they are ok with camera's and dress and rudeness, as long as they sell the tickets.

[graciegirl]

Haven't you learned why yet? This is "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" and the only people that have the power to slap someone's hand and not be concerned with losing their business are Law Enforcement Officer's. Any management to an establishment that caters to the public is not going to say anything to offend the egos of the "people that are legends in their own mind".

What would you have done?

[CFrance]

I keep waiting for the day that a person being complained about in a thread is a member of TOTV.
I've been waiting since 2007, but it's never happened.
Or perhaps the person being complained about is too embarrassed to post a defense. :shrug:
I doubt they would own up to it.

[kcrazorbackfan]

What would you have done?

GG, that's really hard to say without being in the moment. Even though they won't say anything, I probably would have found a manager so it would have been on record in case something happened. It's always been so easy to play "what if", but those days are behind me. I've never been one to scream and yell at someone; I can really get something done with my quiet, "get the point across" voice.

[Bogie Shooter]

Haven't you learned why yet? This is "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" and the only people that have the power to slap someone's hand and not be concerned with losing their business are Law Enforcement Officer's. Any management to an establishment that caters to the public is not going to say anything to offend the egos of the "people that are legends in their own mind".

I disagree, plenty of managers have spoken to unruly guests.....that I have observed first hand.
Really has nothing to do with TV being "Florida's Friendliest Hometown".

[rubicon]

This conversation is the main reason I stopped going to baseball, basketball, hockey and football games. its the same reason I stopped going to the movies and the same reason I stopped going to Performance Art Centers. Too many jerks. Who needs the hassle at those prices

[CSilvestrucci]

A few weeks ago I went to see Jose feliciano at Savannah. Young kids were texting on their lap a few rows in front of us and the usher was right there to stop it. A few adults tried to take pics and film and ushers again were right there. I wonder why it is different at The Sharon.

[CFrance]

This conversation is the main reason I stopped going to baseball, basketball, hockey and football games. its the same reason I stopped going to the movies and the same reason I stopped going to Performance Art Centers. Too many jerks. Who needs the hassle at those prices
Rubicon, I'm sorry you let these people ruin your enjoyment of these sports and performances. You let them win!

Personally, I would keep going to them but make sure I knew where to find an usher.

[RedChariot]

Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

Funny you should mention about such a couple. We went to see the Temptations at the Sharon. No one in front of us. Half way through the show in walks a young woman about 6 ft tall. He was just as tall. She was one of those long haired girls that keeps flipping her whole head of hair from side to side. He could not keep his hands off her. He was rubbing her back, kissing her ear and neck. Cringe. Really?! Do you really need to do all this right here? Get a room. Oh BTW, senior mom and dad were sitting next to them. Kids came later. Wonder why. Hmmmm.....

[Tweety Bird]

Similar aggravation goes on in church pews every week for the last 50 years.

It happened to me last week in church when grandma, daughter and granddaughter kept having their airhead conversation while the service started and considerate people are trying to hear the message. I got up and moved, but that can't be done at The Sharon with paid seats maybe all sold out.

Worse yet is when a couple seated ahead of us can't keep their hands off each other and keep stroking the other's back and neck. CRINGE...... Somebody needs to tell them to knock it off, or get a room.

Maybe you wished it was your neck that was being rubbed? You don't need a room for a neck rub. :D

[graciegirl]

My Aunt Jane said

there is a time and place for everything.

And my grandmother said

Don't make love at the garden gate.
Love is blind, but the neighbors ain't.

[dbussone]

My Aunt Jane said



there is a time and place for everything.



And my grandmother said



Don't make love at the garden gate.

Love is blind, but the neighbors ain't.


You have quite the family. Have you ever thought about writing a book of quotes? I'd buy it!

[karostay]

Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

Unfortunately it's a small percentage of people that only believe In

ME, ME, ME, I, I, I, you can see it everyday here

[Warren Kiefer]

Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

So was there a fight you almost witnessed or did you witness an almost fight ??:wave:

[perrjojo]

So was there a fight you almost witnessed or did you witness an almost fight ??:wave:

Kinda what I was thinking. :beer3:

[hulahips]

Almost witnessed a fight. So glad we have the grammar police monitoring the site. Most of the time I am running from one event to another here in the villages and do not take the time to proof read my writing. Life is too short. I have a lot to accomplish yet so I post a quick blurb here and there in between enjoying the villages lifestyle. While using the iPad, mistakes are likely to occur.

[capecoralbill]

Sounds like you wanted to sensationalize a minor incident. It is a good topic, I don't agree with using camera's/phones when asked not to. But Hula, you are going the direction of Ferguson, MO. 'hands up don't shoot'.

[sunnyatlast]

Sounds like you wanted to sensationalize a minor incident. It is a good topic, I don't agree with using camera's/phones when asked not to. But Hula, you are going the direction of Ferguson, MO. 'hands up don't shoot'.

No, you are the only person who injected that "sensationalized" subject in here.

[hulahips]

Sensationalize?? Lol. Now that is funny. You are kidding, right??

[DeanFL]

Here we go again. An innocent post by an OP gets ridiculed by a minority of ToTV folks - so simple to do behind their comfy private keyboard. I personally love to navigate thru the Board and have for a couple years now. The only distasteful part is those folks who feel they must chime in with snarky personal comments. Man, I just hope my english grammar was proper here.

And - personally the OP has every right to bring this topic to the front. I can only imagine my angst if an audience member was so disruptive to others. If this is an ongoing issue at the Sharon - it should be announced that NO pictures or videos are allowed. Subject to removal from the event. period. And monitor by ushers.

[Sandtrap328]

Either way, we all have seen similar things happen. There will always be some people who take pictures when asked not to do so. There will be people who get upset and say something. Doubtful if anyone has seen it escalate to a fight.

If it really bothers a person, they should get an usher to intervene.

It is the ones who sing along out loud that irritate me. I have shushed them and that usually works.

[perrjojo]

Here we go again. An innocent post by an OP gets ridiculed by a minority of ToTV folks - so simple to do behind their comfy private keyboard. I personally love to navigate thru the Board and have for a couple years now. The only distasteful part is those folks who feel they must chime in with snarky personal comments. Man, I just hope my english grammar was proper here.

And - personally the OP has every right to bring this topic to the front. I can only imagine my angst if an audience member was so disruptive to others. If this is an ongoing issue at the Sharon - it should be announced that NO pictures or videos are allowed. Subject to removal from the event. period. And monitor by ushers.

I don't think the grammar police meant to be mean or unkind, it just sorta made me smile. The written word can't show a smile, inflection or body language so it often gets misunderstood.

[zonerboy]

Maybe we should arm ourselves with small water pistols when attending movies or concerts. Then if we see a I-phone or I-pad held up and a whispered warning is ineffective, we can make sure the device gets wet.

[Chatbrat]

About a year ago a young man was killed in a movie theater by a retired LEO, who had a ccw permit--the young man was texting before the movie started. In Fl the odds are 1 in 10, someone is legally carrying a firearm

Word to the wise don't confront anyone.

[sunnyatlast]

About a year ago a young man was killed in a movie theater by a retired LEO, who had a ccw permit--the young man was texting before the movie started. In Fl the odds are 1 in 10, someone is legally carrying a firearm

Word to the wise don't confront anyone.

This, too, brings in inflammatory topics like "LEO" meaning "law enforcement officer" who shot a young man, and the sensationalized topic of concealed carry weapon permits the opposition stereotypes/brands as ALL permit-holders chomping at the bit to commit the crime mentioned above.

"Word to the wise, don't confront anyone" is true, but it doesn't have to be inflamed with the other gas on the fire. I'd say that "You never know who might go ballistic and attack somehow".

[newguyintv]

Last night we had our first opportunity to attend the Sharon. Was great, we enjoyed crystal Gayle and had 2nd row seats! No problems. Prior to the show they had an announcement to turn off your phones, iPads, tablets, etc. No problem for us as we had none of above with us. On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you". I thought the guy was going to punch out the other guy out it must have been the light from his phone that was distracting and in a way I could understand the guy getting upset. They did announce to put all away and maybe the guy was constantly filming. It was interesting for sure

Does the subject of this post mean that you witnessed an almost fight rather than you almost witnessed a fight (which didn't happen)? There is a difference.

[Barefoot]

So was there a fight you almost witnessed or did you witness an almost fight ??

Does the subject of this post mean that you witnessed an almost fight rather than you almost witnessed a fight (which didn't happen)? There is a difference.

Newguyintv, Warren already asked this question early this morning.
Asked and answered. You need to read previous posts.

[newguyintv]

Newguyintv, Warren already asked this question early this morning.
Asked and answered. You need to read previous posts.


And in retrospect, a good question it was!

[sunnyatlast]

Does the subject of this post mean that you witnessed an almost fight rather than you almost witnessed a fight (which didn't happen)? There is a difference.

This post and others seem to imply that if there was no fight, there's no need to report or discuss the observations the o.p. reported.

The o.p. has a right to bring up a situation that was leading up to a fight, and the people with authority to do something about that ought to know. I hope the management of The Sharon are reading and responding.

Also, other readers who see something like this happening in the future ought to have a plan in mind for how to deal with an escalating situation like that, such as get the ushers to intervene, ask for the manager to come, etc.

They probably won't have a reasonable plan in mind if nobody reports that such things are going on in the first place!

[JoMar]

This post and others seem to imply that if there was no fight, there's no need to report or discuss the observations the o.p. reported.

The o.p. has a right to bring up a situation that was leading up to a fight, and the people with authority to do something about that ought to know. I hope the management of The Sharon are reading and responding.

Also, other readers who see something like this happening in the future ought to have a plan in mind for how to deal with an escalating situation like that, such as get the ushers to intervene, ask for the manager to come, etc.

They probably won't have a reasonable plan in mind if nobody reports that such things are going on in the first place!

From what I experienced in my 4 visits to The Sharon, the ushers make no attempt to enforce anything and evidently management has no intent to change that. The ushers are in the theater and then can see the violations as well as we can. IMHO, getting an usher will accomplish nothing and the inmates will dictate behavior.

[sunnyatlast]

From what I experienced in my 4 visits to The Sharon, the ushers make no attempt to enforce anything and evidently management has no intent to change that. The ushers are in the theater and then can see the violations as well as we can. IMHO, getting an usher will accomplish nothing and the inmates will dictate behavior.

All the more reason to voice concerns here, out in the open, to inform concertgoers as to how apparently uninformed or apathetic management appears to be. It seems letters need to be written to inform The Villages and the developers of the low-class behavior that is being given silent approval by doing nothing about it.

[CFrance]

All the more reason to voice concerns here, out in the open, to inform concertgoers as to how apparently uninformed or apathetic management appears to be. It seems letters need to be written to inform The Villages and the developers of the low-class behavior that is being given silent approval by doing nothing about it.
True, but it's another instance of rules being made but not enforced. Seems to be the modus operandi. The rules only seem to apply to those who would follow them.

I say let the clubs' tour buses meet up in the square & rec center parking lots anyway and see what happens!

[Cathy H]

This, too, brings in inflammatory topics like "LEO" meaning "law enforcement officer" who shot a young man, and the sensationalized topic of concealed carry weapon permits the opposition stereotypes/brands as ALL permit-holders chomping at the bit to commit the crime mentioned above.

"Word to the wise, don't confront anyone" is true, but it doesn't have to be inflamed with the other gas on the fire. I'd say that "You never know who might go ballistic and attack somehow".

probably the ushers are aware that some villages may be packin and they ain't paid to die

[Barefoot]

On the way out we saw a man yelling at another fellow who was sitting maybe 3 rows ahead of him. He was yelling "I paid good money for these seats and how dare you be so rude and keep taking pics and possibly filming with his phone during the show. It was extremely distracting , how dare you".

This post and others seem to imply that if there was no fight, there's no need to report or discuss the observations the o.p. reported.
The o.p. has a right to bring up a situation that was leading up to a fight, and the people with authority to do something about that ought to know. I hope the management of The Sharon are reading and responding.
Also, other readers who see something like this happening in the future ought to have a plan in mind for how to deal with an escalating situation like that, such as get the ushers to intervene, ask for the manager to come, etc.
They probably won't have a reasonable plan in mind if nobody reports that such things are going on in the first place!

One guy yelled at another guy. It can happen anywhere and probably does.
I've seen it happen at movie theaters and in restaurants when someone cuts into a lineup.
In my humble opinion, this is part of every day life, and no big deal. :duck:

[JoMar]

One guy yelled at another guy. It can happen anywhere and probably does.
I've seen it happen at movie theaters and in restaurants when someone cuts into a lineup.
In my humble opinion, this is part of every day life, and no big deal. :duck:

Didn't used to be.....we respected each other....now, we crawl away from confrontation......it's no big deal because we either have some fear but more likely "we don't want to get involved". The sad part is we grew up in a generation where we wouldn't let that happen, now we pass on to our kids and grand kids that behavior doesn't matter.

[DonH57]

You never can tell who you are dealing with now a days in certain venues on any given day. Is the person you're about to deal with mentally stable or armed? It's like poking at a possible dead animal with a stick if you're into that sort of thing. Every day could be be a fun one!

[sunnyatlast]

Didn't used to be.....we respected each other....now, we crawl away from confrontation......it's no big deal because we either have some fear but more likely "we don't want to get involved". The sad part is we grew up in a generation where we wouldn't let that happen, now we pass on to our kids and grand kids that behavior doesn't matter.

I agree.

The point I think some are missing or ignoring is that the customer/audience should not have to confront or correct another customer/audience member. That's what the employed ushers and managers are for! They should be present to see what's going on.