Expanding the voting franchise!?!?!?

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Clinton is promoting extending the time allowed for early voting.

Interesting the issue seems to be raising it head in the battleground states.

For clarity, did any of us, "back in the day" (BITD) when there was one election day, did any of us or even the politicians complain that our right to vote was being surpressed? Of course not.

And BITD if one could not prrove or verify proof of registration one was not allowed to cast a vote. Was there an outcry of voter infringement or surpression or what ever other fancy name assigned today? Of course not.

So now all of a sudden 2 weeks early voting is insufficient????
In our electronic age of instatnt evrything we need 2-3 weeks to do what used to be habdled overnight in one day with manual systems?

It is subjects like this proposed by politician/lawyers and lawyers foe every other special interest group, that just SMELLS!!!

Add to the above the subject of illegals being allowed to vote and stiffer voter identification......the smell just gets stronger.

Forget party affiliation and offer an opinion. Mine is the right to vote is being bastardized to a point where it is approach complete lack of validity or confidence.

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The more time you have, the more times you can vote.

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The OP stated that illegal immigrants are being allowed to vote. I would really like him to provide evidence this is happening in national elections AND, if so, to what percent of the total votes.

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The OP stated that illegal immigrants are being allowed to vote. I would really like him to provide evidence this is happening in national elections AND, if so, to what percent of the total votes.

There have been investigations of the rumors, even here in Florida, where they did find evidence of a single foreign voter....A Canadian.

Much has been made about this however the reality, when doing a study, voter fraud is minuscule.

As for early voting comments before this post.... We don't live in the 50's and 60's any more. Had there not been early voting I could never have voted as a traveled every week for my job, note I didn't trust the mail in ballot due to some issues in my home state. Early voting also cuts down the lines on election day. We should all be able to vote in the elections!!

If we want to go back to the earlier days move election day to Saturday when most of workforce have the day off.

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The OP stated that illegal immigrants are being allowed to vote. I would really like him to provide evidence this is happening in national elections AND, if so, to what percent of the total votes.

I most certainly did not say the highlight above!

For clarification please READ what was stated:

Add to the above the subject of illegals being allowed to vote

Another example of ready, fire, aim!

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I most certainly did not say the highlight above!

For clarification please READ what was stated:

Add to the above the subject of illegals being allowed to vote

Another example of ready, fire, aim!

:loco::jester::icon_bored:

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I most certainly did not say the highlight above!

For clarification please READ what was stated:

Add to the above the subject of illegals being allowed to vote

Another example of ready, fire, aim!

"Add to the above the subject of illegals being allowed to vote'" It sure sounds as though you are saying that illegal immigrants are being allowed to vote. If you did not say that - what are you saying? I, like the others, would like to know the statistics on illegal immigrants voting in national elections. Please provide evidence of the statement.

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"Add to the above the subject of illegals being allowed to vote'" It sure sounds as though you are saying that illegal immigrants are being allowed to vote. If you did not say that - what are you saying? I, like the others, would like to know the statistics on illegal immigrants voting in national elections. Please provide evidence of the statement.

The OP never ever, not once said anything but refer to "subject of illegal voting", AND IT IS A SUBJECT and a movement.

You, and the "others" will need to sharpen your reading skills and back down on simply looking for attack points.

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Nothing drives voters to the polls more than cutting back on voting hours and days and requiring more identification. Just ask Gov Rick Scott who handed Florida to President Obama on a silver platter by doing just this.

Obama voters were waiting six, seven, eight hours to vote in the major cities, while others just gave up and went home when Scott would not increase the hours for voting, even though his predecessor Charlie Crist had done just that.

Of course, Obama would have won anyway in a landslide, but winning Florida was like the icing on the cake.

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The OP never ever, not once said anything but refer to "subject of illegal voting", AND IT IS A SUBJECT and a movement.

You, and the "others" will need to sharpen your reading skills and back down on simply looking for attack points.

Thank you for saving me the keystrokes.

Even after calling their error to their attention....one they do not get it. Two they do not comprehend. Three they saw the attack words needed and that was sufficient.

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The OP never ever, not once said anything but refer to "subject of illegal voting", AND IT IS A SUBJECT and a movement.

You, and the "others" will need to sharpen your reading skills and back down on simply looking for attack points.

I must say, I have also been noting a real lack of reading comprehension skills on this forum. Please, folks, lay done your partisan cap and replace it with your thinking cap before responding to someone's post!

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:loco::jester::icon_bored:

No surprise response!

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There's a t-shirt out there that I love for instances like this. It says -

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." :ohdear:

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You would think that as an important, vital and privilege voting is that American citizens would treat it as a protected species. but instead we find politicians who abuse corrupt and otherwise manipulate our voting systems

The voting system and the free press are essential for a free democracy to exist and both have been so badly corrupted that unless we regain our senses anarchy is going to raise its ugly head

Personal Best Regards:

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You would think that as an important, vital and privilege voting is that American citizens would treat it as a protected species. but instead we find politicians who abuse corrupt and otherwise manipulate our voting systems

The voting system and the free press are essential for a free democracy to exist and both have been so badly corrupted that unless we regain our senses anarchy is going to raise its ugly head

Personal Best Regards:

Please go re-read your ninth grade civics textbooks. Even for you, this post is utter nonsense.

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Please go re-read your ninth grade civics textbooks. Even for you, this post is utter nonsense.

HOW SO ? Please

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HOW SO ? Please

You took the bait!

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You took the bait!

Don't think so. Just want someone to explain themselves instead of the stupid one liners. Obviously, I know that someone who posts like this does not have the education or ability to explain themselves, and despite the guest moniker, I want to show them to readers for what they really are.

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https://www.hillaryclinton.com/the-briefing/fact-sheet-voting-rights/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=20150604tsu_votingrights


Hillary Clinton today proposed a universal, automatic voter registration whereby all US citizens would automatically be registered to vote when they turn 18, unless they opted out. If enacted, this proposal would add 50 million voters to the rolls.

Clinton is also calling for a minimum 20 day early voting period in all states.

This legislation would be the first major changes to the voting laws since Bill Clinton passed the motor-voter law 20 years ago.

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Don't think so. Just want someone to explain themselves instead of the stupid one liners. Obviously, I know that someone who posts like this does not have the education or ability to explain themselves, and despite the guest moniker, I want to show them to readers for what they really are.

Wow, I do really pity you. You are such a bitter person that you feel it is your obligation in life to put others down. Please find someone who might help you.

Your posts on the other forum are equally sad.

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Wow, I do really pity you. You are such a bitter person that you feel it is your obligation in life to put others down. Please find someone who might help you.

Your posts on the other forum are equally sad.

Thanks for your pity.

I am not bitter, no matter how often you and your other crony may say that over the years over and over. I simply do not like people like you and your crony(s) who find humor in mocking other posters...not speaking of me...you have been doing that publicly and privately for years. I am speaking of people who post how they feel on subjects they feel strong enough about to voice their opinion and are subject to a smart aleck one line barb which I suppose you find very funny.

I put nobody down and simply ask that folks explain why they would respond to someone who made a serious post like this......"Please go re-read your ninth grade civics textbooks. Even for you, this post is utter nonsense."

THAT to me was a put down and since I know you and your style, I just decided to call you out on it. I am sure that at times, with the guest moniker, I mistake you and your childish friends and have been rude to them and normally I end up apologizing when that happens. I might add that my put downs, as you call them, are reserved for those who mock this forum with the "cracks" and not simply because I disagree. Why you and your cronies do not just stay out of here if you are not going to reply in an intelligent manner is mysterious to me, but I suppose you guys enjoy the mocking.

The "other forum" you speak of is not somewhere I have been in many months, but since you mentioned it and that id'ed you, I figured you must have been up to no good again over there and thus I just came back and read a few of your posts oh LORD as you call yourself over there and of course you were talking about posters from this forum as you always do.

I apologize to anyone who had to read this but I know who I am speaking to and I still think he should be explain his comments to a poster who took the time to post his/her feelings and be responded to with "Please go re-read your ninth grade civics textbooks. Even for you, this post is utter nonsense."

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https://www.hillaryclinton.com/the-briefing/fact-sheet-voting-rights/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=20150604tsu_votingrights


Hillary Clinton today proposed a universal, automatic voter registration whereby all US citizens would automatically be registered to vote when they turn 18, unless they opted out. If enacted, this proposal would add 50 million voters to the rolls.

Clinton is also calling for a minimum 20 day early voting period in all states.

This legislation would be the first major changes to the voting laws since Bill Clinton passed the motor-voter law 20 years ago.

Hillary Clinton, that paragon of virtue and who is honest as the day is long, passionately argues to let more uneducated and clueless voters vote as early and as often as possible. Who is heartless enough to be opposed to whatever the Clingon Crime Family wants? I wonder if we can also make a donation to her while we vote straight Democrat? Btw the Dems LOVE the people !!

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Hillary Clinton, that paragon of virtue and who is honest as the day is long, passionately argues to let more uneducated and clueless voters vote as early and as often as possible. Who is heartless enough to be opposed to whatever the Clingon Crime Family wants? I wonder if we can also make a donation to her while we vote straight Democrat? Btw the Dems LOVE the people !!

Wouldn't Republicans have the same opportunity to pick up just as many voters as Democrats if all persons were automatically registered on their 18th birthday?

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Wouldn't Republicans have the same opportunity to pick up just as many voters as Democrats if all persons were automatically registered on their 18th birthday?

As always you pick ONLY pieces of what this woman says and make it sound like her message was as pure as the driven snow.

She was, as is becoming the norm for the Democratic party, attacking, and making wild charges and basically going the race road yet again. Is race becoming the basic issue for Democrats ?

If you really believe that your quote is all she said, go back and read it all and put it in context.

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I actually cannot wait to see Ms. Clinton debate this issue with any of the Republican candidates. She will gloss then...easy now at a selected audience and venue with no questions allowed.

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As always you pick ONLY pieces of what this woman says and make it sound like her message was as pure as the driven snow.

She was, as is becoming the norm for the Democratic party, attacking, and making wild charges and basically going the race road yet again. Is race becoming the basic issue for Democrats ?

If you really believe that your quote is all she said, go back and read it all and put it in context.

I re-read the article and find it to be quite fine. What parts do you have a problem with? It seems to be equitable for all persons to be registered in whichever party they wish.

Nothing about race but about inequality by some governors in trying to make voting difficult for working people.

Again, which parts, specifically, do you have a problem with? Why wouldn't the Republicans have just the same chance of picking up voters in the same percentage as Democrats? Is it about the demographics that some regressives say does not exist?

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I re-read the article and find it to be quite fine. What parts do you have a problem with? It seems to be equitable for all persons to be registered in whichever party they wish.

Nothing about race but about inequality by some governors in trying to make voting difficult for working people.

Again, which parts, specifically, do you have a problem with? Why wouldn't the Republicans have just the same chance of picking up voters in the same percentage as Democrats? Is it about the demographics that some regressives say does not exist?

All of it. I think, last I saw that 70 to 80 percent of americans favor proper id requirement for voting. Most voters in this country do not want to loosen the requirements; they want to make them tougher. So many poll show this, but of course she, as always, cloaks all of this with comments like "“a sweeping effort to disempower and disenfranchise people of color, poor people and young people from one end of our country to the other.” and she and the party seem to just alway go for the race card, and pandering.

What she is saying is NOT true at all. Each state is different and HER STATE of New York is one of the most stringent.

She was frankly offensive. I do not know the exact quote but she said and this is a para phrase.....DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO TRY AND STOP MINORITIES FROM VOTING....that is offensive and race baiting in any language.

I think the Governor of Ohio mentioned a time frame , and he did it because her staff is suing the state of Ohio for the amount of time allowed to vote, of TWENTY EIGHT DAYS TO VOTE IN OHIO where she is suing....in New York, HER STATE...you either vote on election day or you do not vote...ONE DAY.

Come on..how can you be happy with statements that have no basis in facts at all. Putting this in the hands again of the federal government and take it away from states.

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All of it. I think, last I saw that 70 to 80 percent of americans favor proper id requirement for voting. Most voters in this country do not want to loosen the requirements; they want to make them tougher. So many poll show this, but of course she, as always, cloaks all of this with comments like "“a sweeping effort to disempower and disenfranchise people of color, poor people and young people from one end of our country to the other.” and she and the party seem to just alway go for the race card, and pandering.

What she is saying is NOT true at all. Each state is different and HER STATE of New York is one of the most stringent.

She was frankly offensive. I do not know the exact quote but she said and this is a para phrase.....DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO TRY AND STOP MINORITIES FROM VOTING....that is offensive and race baiting in any language.

I think the Governor of Ohio mentioned a time frame , and he did it because her staff is suing the state of Ohio for the amount of time allowed to vote, of TWENTY EIGHT DAYS TO VOTE IN OHIO where she is suing....in New York, HER STATE...you either vote on election day or you do not vote...ONE DAY.

Come on..how can you be happy with statements that have no basis in facts at all. Putting this in the hands again of the federal government and take it away from states.

Facts and logic don't matter. The diehard HillaryPhiles on this board will support her no matter what because they basically agree with her closet fascist beliefs ... that conservatism is evil and it doesn't matter what is done as long as "progressivism" wins