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rubicon
06-05-2015, 05:15 AM
There actually is a chance that you could kill injury or otherwise cause ham to another person with your acts of kindness. We have all witnessed it daily here in many ways, one being feeding animals in the wild.
However this example makes my point. Envision a T intersection. Vehicles traveling at the top of the T have the right away. I was traveling at the top of the T and approach a vehicle from the opposite direction. The opposing vehicle had the right a way because I was going to make a left and whether he made a right or drove straight ahead he had the right a way.
Instead this driver abruptly stops, flashes his headlights to let a stopped golf cart located at the vertical portion of the T to proceed .
The rules of the road are clear and apply to car golf carts bikes. By this car drivers actions he created a hazard for any cars driving behind him because there was no expectation or reason for him to stop. Secondly he confused both the golf cart driver and me because we no longer understood what his attentions were. Was he flashing his lights for the cart or for me or for some unknown reason?
I have seen this courteous behavior often with golf carts but they are vehicles and the rules of the road apply.
Your kindness could have unintended consequences
graciegirl
06-05-2015, 05:18 AM
There actually is a chance that you could kill injury or otherwise cause ham to another person with your acts of kindness. We have all witnessed it daily here in many ways, one being feeding animals in the wild.
However this example makes my point. Envision a T intersection. Vehicles traveling at the top of the T have the right away. I was traveling at the top of the T and approach a vehicle from the opposite direction. The opposing vehicle had the right a way because I was going to make a left and whether he made a right or drove straight ahead he had the right a way.
Instead this driver abruptly stops, flashes his headlights to let a stopped golf cart located at the vertical portion of the T to proceed .
The rules of the road are clear and apply to car golf carts bikes. By this car drivers actions he created a hazard for any cars driving behind him because there was no expectation or reason for him to stop. Secondly he confused both the golf cart driver and me because we no longer understood what his attentions were. Was he flashing his lights for the cart or for me or for some unknown reason?
I have seen this courteous behavior often with golf carts but they are vehicles and the rules of the road apply.
Your kindness could have unintended consequences
I agree.
Grandfinch
06-05-2015, 05:30 AM
:bigbow:
virgind
06-05-2015, 05:57 AM
Were we stupid drivers before we got here or did that happen after we got here. There are alot of them. I agree dont try to rewrite the traffic laws. Maybe some never knew the traffic laws or care. Stop being so nice.
NYGUY
06-05-2015, 09:25 AM
There actually is a chance that you could kill injury or otherwise cause ham to another person with your acts of kindness. We have all witnessed it daily here in many ways, one being feeding animals in the wild.
However this example makes my point. Envision a T intersection. Vehicles traveling at the top of the T have the right away. I was traveling at the top of the T and approach a vehicle from the opposite direction. The opposing vehicle had the right a way because I was going to make a left and whether he made a right or drove straight ahead he had the right a way.
Instead this driver abruptly stops, flashes his headlights to let a stopped golf cart located at the vertical portion of the T to proceed .
The rules of the road are clear and apply to car golf carts bikes. By this car drivers actions he created a hazard for any cars driving behind him because there was no expectation or reason for him to stop. Secondly he confused both the golf cart driver and me because we no longer understood what his attentions were. Was he flashing his lights for the cart or for me or for some unknown reason?
I have seen this courteous behavior often with golf carts but they are vehicles and the rules of the road apply.
Your kindness could have unintended consequences
Absolutely right!!..:BigApplause:
villagetinker
06-05-2015, 09:30 AM
There was a previous thread on something similar and it was pointed out that only police or other designated law enforcement personnel are allowed to direct traffic, and by doing what the above driver did, he/she was directing traffic.
I have seen this on (OMG) 441/27 when a car is trying to enter from the right, but going to the center on left lane and someone in the right lane stop to let them out. The person coming out cannot see the traffic in the other lanes, very dangerous.
sunnyatlast
06-05-2015, 09:43 AM
Or how about when you're driving westward in the right lane on Hwy. 466, into the afternoon sun with visor down and there's still a lot of glare in your view…...with traffic going 45mph with some going faster. A woman suddenly appears on the left in the bright sunlight not far ahead, and awkwardly trots out of the middle divider crossing with both hands full and runs across hwy. 466 in front of speeding traffic to the driveway on your right……to beam and lovingly place a turtle on the ground…..where I guess she thought the turtle was going to obediently stay and would not try to cross the highway again once she left.
Her "kindness" to a turtle could have caused her death under another driver's wheels going 45mph, plus a 10-car chain collision in the two lanes she was trotting across with hands full and was, I think, wearing sandals/flipflops.
Yorio
06-05-2015, 08:28 PM
Also, please do not let golf carts pass prior to the gates by stopping suddenly unless the area is jammed. Cars have the right of way at the gates. There have been too many kind vehicle drivers stopping for the golf carts. This practice is dangerous. When on golf carts I am perfectly aware I have to stop and let cars go before I make a move and cross.
kcrazorbackfan
06-05-2015, 08:55 PM
I have learned in the going on 3 weeks I've been here full time, that you really have to drive with your head on a swivel or you will get run over.
And the people that walk out of Lowe's, Winn Dixie, Publix - anywhere with a big parking lot - and wander around looking for their car, it's really sad seeing that and thinking "there but for the grace of God go I".
patfla06
06-05-2015, 09:22 PM
I agree!
We are not in charge of "directing" traffic. :ohdear:
dirtbanker
06-06-2015, 08:18 AM
And the people that walk out of Lowe's, Winn Dixie, Publix - anywhere with a big parking lot - and wander around looking for their car, it's really sad seeing that and thinking "there but for the grace of God go I".
They don't need a big parking lot to appear absent minded...take a ride over to Walmart and watch them at the self checkouts...
rubicon
06-06-2015, 12:12 PM
Indeed I was at first mystified then horrified the first time I saw a grocery cart at a parking space with the groceries still unloaded and no car present. Unfortunately I have witnessed this more often than I wish.
This thread and ones like it are a good reminder than some of our neighbors are not remembering and we can only hope and pray that it is the result of only one bad day.
This factor also half explains why some drivers find themselves on multi-modal paths with their cars.....they thought they were driving their golf carts or didn't even consider what vehicle they were driving. They just knew that they turned onto that path many times before
Personal Best Regards:
CFrance
06-06-2015, 04:25 PM
I have learned in the going on 3 weeks I've been here full time, that you really have to drive with your head on a swivel or you will get run over.
And the people that walk out of Lowe's, Winn Dixie, Publix - anywhere with a big parking lot - and wander around looking for their car, it's really sad seeing that and thinking "there but for the grace of God go I".
You'll be there; don't worry. And for the life of me, I don't understand why they don't mark the aisles in the grocery store parking lots like they do in other states. It's so much easier to remember you're in row J than it is to find you white car in a sea of other white cars. Or black cars. Or silver cars...
JoMar
06-06-2015, 06:48 PM
And of course stiripe them so you don't have grocery cart collisions.
dbussone
06-06-2015, 06:52 PM
And of course stiripe them so you don't have grocery cart collisions.
Hoooo! Major:Giant:BigBow: [emoji79]
rubicon
06-07-2015, 05:55 AM
I had developed the habit of utilizing markers when driving on unmarked country roads or in parking lots. Hint : just don't select a marker that moves:D
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
06-07-2015, 07:51 AM
My son was driving once and was waiting to to make a left hand turn onto a street where he did not have the right of way. Like in your example, a car stopped and flashed his lights to allow him to exit. As he moved toward the middle of the intersection, a car behind the one that stopped to let him go, went around the stopped car and collided with my son's car. Thankfully, no one injured, but my son was cited for failing to yield. His insurance company had to pay up.
Nothing wrong with being polite, but when driving, whether a car, golf cart or bicycle, everyone needs to be aware of everything and everyone around them.
I talked to my son after this incident and asked if he was looking for a car coming from his left as he was making the turn. He responded no, because the first car had waved him through. I told him that you always have to be looking out for other vehicles and expect the unexpected.
I was going around a round about a few weeks ago. I was in the left hand lane in order to take the second exit. A woman was in the right hand lane next to me as I entered the round about and stayed there as we approached the second exit. I was watching here and as I started to take the exit, she kept going around to the third exit. I stopped and avoided the collision. She kept going completely unaware of what she had done. Now, she was completely in the wrong, but because I was aware that she was there, I avoided a collision.
I see way too many people driving as if they have blinders on. They stare straight ahead and seldom look in their mirrors. When you're driving, your head should be on a swivel and your eyes should constantly be going from the road in front of you t you left hand mirror, your center mirror and your right hand mirror. You're not taking your eyes off the road. You'll see whats in front of you in your peripheral vision at all times, but you need to keep your eyes and head moving.
rubicon
06-07-2015, 10:29 AM
My son was driving once and was waiting to to make a left hand turn onto a street where he did not have the right of way. Like in your example, a car stopped and flashed his lights to allow him to exit. As he moved toward the middle of the intersection, a car behind the one that stopped to let him go, went around the stopped car and collided with my son's car. Thankfully, no one injured, but my son was cited for failing to yield. His insurance company had to pay up.
Nothing wrong with being polite, but when driving, whether a car, golf cart or bicycle, everyone needs to be aware of everything and everyone around them.
I talked to my son after this incident and asked if he was looking for a car coming from his left as he was making the turn. He responded no, because the first car had waved him through. I told him that you always have to be looking out for other vehicles and expect the unexpected.
I was going around a round about a few weeks ago. I was in the left hand lane in order to take the second exit. A woman was in the right hand lane next to me as I entered the round about and stayed there as we approached the second exit. I was watching here and as I started to take the exit, she kept going around to the third exit. I stopped and avoided the collision. She kept going completely unaware of what she had done. Now, she was completely in the wrong, but because I was aware that she was there, I avoided a collision.
I see way too many people driving as if they have blinders on. They stare straight ahead and seldom look in their mirrors. When you're driving, your head should be on a swivel and your eyes should constantly be going from the road in front of you t you left hand mirror, your center mirror and your right hand mirror. You're not taking your eyes off the road. You'll see whats in front of you in your peripheral vision at all times, but you need to keep your eyes and head moving.
Hi doc: My career was in insurance and the scenario you present regarding your son is so common place. In fact my daughter also got caught up in that same manner as your son, despite the number of times I warned her (my children) about this trap. she got hit and she got fined because some guy waved her through.
Being in an occupation for a period of time makes one prescient. For example a producer inspector wrote that inspecting imported fruit before it entered the United Stats made him quite aware that snakes or deadly insect lurked about.
villagetinker
06-07-2015, 12:12 PM
Just had the opportunity to have a driver in a blue Mazda STOP on Pinellas Place to let golf carts cross, NOTE: they were already stopped waiting for us to pass. I was able to stop behind this nincompoop but I could easily see others who would not be able.... result two cars and 1 or 2 golf carts involved in the collision. Need I say more.
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