Cowardly Cop Resigns

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I saw that cowardly cop in North Texas has resigned. He is the one who pushed a 14 year old girl to the ground and then drew his gun on another teen. The cowardly cop was then restrained by two oher officers.

The 14 year old girl was in a bathing suit! Was she a danger to a trained police officer? Get his sorry butt in jail right now and throw away the key!

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He wasn't cowardly, he is culturally brainwashed. Black skin equals evil dangerous person about to riot. This requires maximum force and if the rioting gangbanger group of hoodlums doesn't behave, a bullet or two.

White teenager who abuses sister That's a confused child who needs a quiet sit down with some talking. Black teenager with a bikini who is sitting on the ground, needs to be told to get her ass on the ground, then get her hair pulled, the knelt on. At least no one got shot, no cop could claim that he thought someone was reaching for a gun hiding in a bathing suit. But I don't think he is a coward. In his own mind seeing all those dark bodies actually triggered his subconscious to react the way he did. That video is the exact definition of cultural racism.

From the very conservative Dallas Morning News editorial

But it’s impossible not to wonder how different a scene this would have been if these kids had been white instead of black. Would Casebolt have dared to drag a blond-haired, blue-eyed girl to the ground screaming “ON YOUR FACE!” at a pool in an affluent suburb?

If your answer is yes, let me know the next time that happens.

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Fox's Hannity had one of the teen pool partygoers and her father on his show last night. Hannity was trying to get them to agree that two boys were coming up in back of the cop. On the film clip, the boys were clearly in front of the cop as he pulled his gun and aimed at them. Hannity tried his famed talking over them - but they stood their ground, made Hannity look the fool, and so he ends the segment with a comment of "some people cannot see reality". Yes, Hannity, that is YOU!

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He wasn't cowardly, he is culturally brainwashed. Black skin equals evil dangerous person about to riot. This requires maximum force and if the rioting gangbanger group of hoodlums doesn't behave, a bullet or two.

White teenager who abuses sister That's a confused child who needs a quiet sit down with some talking. Black teenager with a bikini who is sitting on the ground, needs to be told to get her ass on the ground, then get her hair pulled, the knelt on. At least no one got shot, no cop could claim that he thought someone was reaching for a gun hiding in a bathing suit. But I don't think he is a coward. In his own mind seeing all those dark bodies actually triggered his subconscious to react the way he did. That video is the exact definition of cultural racism.

From the very conservative Dallas Morning News editorial

Excellent post!

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Another isolated incident made national news by somebody sending in a video to a news hungry rag. And then because it is black and white the national media jumps on it and tries to make it another Ferguson.

How about discussing the other 99% of the police force that do their job day in and day out......and cut the race baiting crap!

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I don't see this as a cowardly cop what so ever. This is a cop who most likely has had it and I don't blame him one bit. First of all , the cop was called into another possible riot situation. Everyone was yelling, screaming, etc. The cop was trying to get control of the situation before it got completely out of hand. Now when a cop tells you to leave, you leave. If a cop tells you to sit on ground, you sit on ground. The problem today is the kids have absolutely No respect for authority! (And of course that goes back to No parenting, etc). Instead of the President speaking to the black communities about following a police officers orders, he pals around with Sharpton to provoke more violence. The cop most likely got a bit nervous when two guys came up beside him and he pulled out his weapon. Yes he may have over reacted however how can you police today with what is going on. I feel bad for the cop but I do not blame him one bit. We have become a lawless society under this administration and that is who is to blame. Why be a cop today or join the military with limited rules of engagement. Look what happened when cops were told to stand down in Baltimore. This country is spiraling downhill so fast under liberalism. No rules, no parents this is what you get. God bless that cop for trying to do his job

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I don't see this as a cowardly cop what so ever. This is a cop who most likely has had it and I don't blame him one bit. First of all , the cop was called into another possible riot situation. Everyone was yelling, screaming, etc. The cop was trying to get control of the situation before it got completely out of hand. Now when a cop tells you to leave, you leave. If a cop tells you to sit on ground, you sit on ground. The problem today is the kids have absolutely No respect for authority! (And of course that goes back to No parenting, etc). Instead of the President speaking to the black communities about following a police officers orders, he pals around with Sharpton to provoke more violence. The cop most likely got a bit nervous when two guys came up beside him and he pulled out his weapon. Yes he may have over reacted however how can you police today with what is going on. I feel bad for the cop but I do not blame him one bit. We have become a lawless society under this administration and that is who is to blame. Why be a cop today or join the military with limited rules of engagement. Look what happened when cops were told to stand down in Baltimore. This country is spiraling downhill so fast under liberalism. No rules, no parents this is what you get. God bless that cop for trying to do his job

Well presented position. I do agree with it.
What the arm chair generals and racists fail to accept is that those in "enforcement" are trained to react in volatile situations.
Those who have no idea what they are talking about can onlrelate to a situation where there calm and no threat and has time to evaluate options.
Wake up you sensationalists/racists/special interest promoters....you have the luxury of not being involved/threatened (real or otherwise).

Why aren't these folks who are down on enforcement concerned about how our special forces are trained> The enter a situation of known perps/terrorists and it is tap-tap-tap, three to the head REACTION. They are trained to react.

Why is this any different than the police REACTING? Because there is, for now, no racial or political or special interest gain involved.

As we continue to emasculate the enforcers whether they be police or military those who would not follow the law will only become more brazen and bold.

I would add to the quoted post above that the blacks or whites involved think they can refute the order being given to them. They know there are cameras around and seek their moment of glory by resisting the enforcers.

Once again, like many on this forum, in the safety of their arm chair, behind their keyboard, wrapped in their cloak of predjudice, race baiting and political bent....they have nothing invested and no risks what so ever....hence their pseudo bravery erupts in their closed minds.....until they are threatened!

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Tiresome but predictable ... cop screws up, liberal media goes apes*** and fellow travelers and arm chair civil rights supporters continue on anti-copy tirade and emotional bashing .... eg as the original OP so perfectly exemplifies.

Left wingers never stop ... and will never be happy until we get to our next utopia with details tbd

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Tiresome but predictable ... cop screws up, liberal media goes apes*** and fellow travelers and arm chair civil rights supporters continue on anti-copy tirade and emotional bashing .... eg as the original OP so perfectly exemplifies.

Left wingers never stop ... and will never be happy until we get to our next utopia with details tbd

Gee, I thought Civil Rights was the law of the land now.

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I saw that cowardly cop in North Texas has resigned. He is the one who pushed a 14 year old girl to the ground and then drew his gun on another teen. The cowardly cop was then restrained by two oher officers.

The 14 year old girl was in a bathing suit! Was she a danger to a trained police officer? Get his sorry butt in jail right now and throw away the key!
I respectfully have to disagree with you. I do agree the officer in question was very much impacted by emotions and adrenalin and probably would like to have some of his actions back knowing what we do now. The video clip of that officer roughly handling a disrespectful teenager has be played steady for days by all networks. That said I think I heard about 6 murders in our small area here in Florida and none of them even register a blip on networks, and people really died. That disrespectful kid looked great to me this morning as networks interviewed her and her attorney about upcoming lawsuit. At age 15 I would have had my butt kicked up between my shoulders if I had spoke to a police officier that way.

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Your darn right. My parents would have grounded me for weeks without any privileges but not today. Anything goes along with no respect for authority . and we wonder why the kids today are obnoxious. Our permissive society is backfiring on us

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Your darn right. My parents would have grounded me for weeks without any privileges but not today. Anything goes along with no respect for authority . and we wonder why the kids today are obnoxious. Our permissive society is backfiring on us

How did you react with your own children? Were your discipline techniques the same as your parents? If you have grandchildren, how do your children differ in how they discipline them?

Definitely, I am not saying you are all wrong in your reply but times do change. Our grandparents thought beating the children with a leather strap was normal. I hope you would not approve of that punishment.

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If anyone had seen this police officer beat up his own daughter the same way he beat this teenager, law enforcement would be called and the department of child services would intervene.

We had a similar situation in The Villages when the fire chief was accused of beating one of his sons. He was fired and ordered to have no contact with the family.

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If anyone had seen this police officer beat up his own daughter the same way he beat this teenager, law enforcement would be called and the department of child services would intervene.

We had a similar situation in The Villages when the fire chief was accused of beating one of his sons. He was fired and ordered to have no contact with the family.
I have to say your definition of beating is different than mine.

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I have to say your definition of beating is different than mine.

Thank you. Restrain maybe....forcibly perhaps.....beating not in the video I saw.

I don't know how such calls can be made from an armchair across from the television set! Maybe it is a big(ger) screen:a20:

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Yeah, I would have to agree on the forcible restraining of the teen girl. However, it is inappropriate for a police officer to take the girl down like he did and then kneel on her. He is probably around 180 pounds versus her 100.

Anyhow, the police chief of the town said publically that this one officer did not act appropriately. The officer's attorney read an apology from the officer. I would say that the case is closed. However, a civil suit probably will ensue.

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Any one who works as a cop today has to be crazy .... ie you can do 1,000 things correctly and if you, in the heat of a crisis, make a misstep it's game over. Plus the liberals and media will jump on you faster then a French revolutionary.

Best to leave the people to take care of themselves ... given that human nature per Progressive dogma is blissful, we all know that peace and light will be the outcome if we could simply disband all police departments.

Amen.

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Cop never beat this girl. He tried to restrain her after she refused to obey his order to leave. Policing is a local and state issue, not federal so Obama, stay out of this. Stop undermining the police and law and order. This cop was under emotional strain having just dealt with two suicide calls prior to this incident this was absolutely not a racial incident but a cop pushed to his limit. I feel sorry for the cop who tried to do his job but in the meantime turned in his badge realizing its just not worth it

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AND he has received death threats from the assinine ungrateful public!

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How did you react with your own children? Were your discipline techniques the same as your parents? If you have grandchildren, how do your children differ in how they discipline them?

Definitely, I am not saying you are all wrong in your reply but times do change. Our grandparents thought beating the children with a leather strap was normal. I hope you would not approve of that punishment.

We were disciplined as kids as were our kids and we all turned out well and learned to respect authority. The problem today is the parents want to be friends with their kids, instead of parents. Takes more work to parent, discipline, etc. Easier to give your kids phones, puters, games etc and have more time for you. Break down of family killing our society

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AND he has received death threats from the assinine ungrateful public!

I know you don't really mean the "ungrateful public", when in reality it is very limited to only one or two radicals doing their cowardly thing.

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I always get a kick out of IDIOTS that think they know what its like to be a street cop. First off If he was a coward he never would have gotten out of his patrol car until more help arrived. Instead he CHOSE do to his job and tried to restore some civility to an unruly crowd and help a White women who was being assaulted by at least 3 black teens. (watch the hole clip before u shot your mouth off) Secondly I strongly agree as stated above people need to "cut out this race crap". The girl in question was yelling "CALL MY MOMMY" obviously a spoiled brat. Instead of resisting if she and others would have complied with the polices order to sit down or leave the area, officers would have been able to calmly ascertain who committed what crimes and why. Also as previously and correctly stated, "The problem today is the kids have absolutely No respect for authority!" I also would add adults as well. It's time we stop looking for excuses to fault police. If and when a cop does wrong he deserves to be disciplined and when justified arrested. However as we saw in Fergeson, Baltimore and NYC when the facts come out the officers that were blasted in the media were found to have acted appropriately!

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I don't see this as a cowardly cop what so ever. This is a cop who most likely has had it and I don't blame him one bit. First of all , the cop was called into another possible riot situation. Everyone was yelling, screaming, etc. The cop was trying to get control of the situation before it got completely out of hand. Now when a cop tells you to leave, you leave. If a cop tells you to sit on ground, you sit on ground. The problem today is the kids have absolutely No respect for authority! (And of course that goes back to No parenting, etc). Instead of the President speaking to the black communities about following a police officers orders, he pals around with Sharpton to provoke more violence. The cop most likely got a bit nervous when two guys came up beside him and he pulled out his weapon. Yes he may have over reacted however how can you police today with what is going on. I feel bad for the cop but I do not blame him one bit. We have become a lawless society under this administration and that is who is to blame. Why be a cop today or join the military with limited rules of engagement. Look what happened when cops were told to stand down in Baltimore. This country is spiraling downhill so fast under liberalism. No rules, no parents this is what you get. God bless that cop for trying to do his job

Please explain to all of us who don't see things as clearly as you, how a cop in a very non-urban community was "called into another riot"? What previous riot was he in? How does a pushing fight between a white woman who told black people to go back to section 8 housing and a black teen who took umbrage at that racism constitute a riot? And much more importantly, how is it that this particular cop felt the need to behave in a manner which the approximately 10 other officers on the same scene did not? Either the 10 officers who were calm and interacting with the party goers were incompetent or this one cop was wrong. Completely different behaviors in the exact same "riot". Somebody wasn't doing their job and per your post God is not going to be blessing those other cops as they failed to do it per your vision of those black kids needing less encouragement from Obama and Sharpton and you forgot a few others to not respect cops. Damn liberals thinking black people should be treated the same by cops as white ones. My grandpappy knew how to treat black people before FDR and LBJ destroyed this country.

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I heard that the police officer had just come from a suicide call and was stressed due to that - and I think that would stress anyone.

He has apologized for his behavior. No one injured. Case should be closed.

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Please explain to all of us who don't see things as clearly as you, how a cop in a very non-urban community was "called into another riot"? What previous riot was he in? How does a pushing fight between a white woman who told black people to go back to section 8 housing and a black teen who took umbrage at that racism constitute a riot? And much more importantly, how is it that this particular cop felt the need to behave in a manner which the approximately 10 other officers on the same scene did not? Either the 10 officers who were calm and interacting with the party goers were incompetent or this one cop was wrong. Completely different behaviors in the exact same "riot". Somebody wasn't doing their job and per your post God is not going to be blessing those other cops as they failed to do it per your vision of those black kids needing less encouragement from Obama and Sharpton and you forgot a few others to not respect cops. Damn liberals thinking black people should be treated the same by cops as white ones. My grandpappy knew how to treat black people before FDR and LBJ destroyed this country.

Your post started out reasonably well, but rolled over and then you gave us an inadvertent look into the liberal mind ... slightly off balance, insufferably arrogant and misplaced sarcasm that reflects on the sender vs the intended target.

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I always get a kick out of IDIOTS that think they know what its like to be a street cop. First off If he was a coward he never would have gotten out of his patrol car until more help arrived. Instead he CHOSE do to his job and tried to restore some civility to an unruly crowd and help a White women who was being assaulted by at least 3 black teens. (watch the hole clip before u shot your mouth off) Secondly I strongly agree as stated above people need to "cut out this race crap". The girl in question was yelling "CALL MY MOMMY" obviously a spoiled brat. Instead of resisting if she and others would have complied with the polices order to sit down or leave the area, officers would have been able to calmly ascertain who committed what crimes and why. Also as previously and correctly stated, "The problem today is the kids have absolutely No respect for authority!" I also would add adults as well. It's time we stop looking for excuses to fault police. If and when a cop does wrong he deserves to be disciplined and when justified arrested. However as we saw in Fergeson, Baltimore and NYC when the facts come out the officers that were blasted in the media were found to have acted appropriately!

Thanks for your contribution of reality and experience ... something the leftwing armchair quarterbacks on this board completely lack

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Thanks for your contribution of reality and experience ... something the leftwing armchair quarterbacks on this board completely lack

Glad you phrased it as you did, because it is "on this board" that needs to be said.

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It has been referenced but the hot heads on this thread won't even stay quiet long enough to hear another point of view. And ironically it is exactly why we are having these clashes around the country because people won't listen.

Prior to this incident Casebolt, the cop, was called to assist a man who was attempting suicide the man succeeded in shooting himself in the head. Casebolt was then called to a second suicide attempt with a young girl who wanted to jump off a roof. The police had a successful attempt and saved her life. Casebolt was then called to what was described as a riot.

The cell phone captured the moment. But Rashamon Effect explains that people witness the same event differently.

What I saw was a guy trying to do his job. what I saw were white kids who obeyed the cops instructions and didn't move. what I saw were two young black males coming at the cop and the cop reacted...and given what has transpired since Ferguson who can blame him . what i saw was a young black girl doing her best to resist this cop.

What I have read mostly on this thread are people who would have acted like those black kids who were defiant .When you get a guy like Mayor di blasio that shows such contempt for the police that he instructs his son that cops do not like black kids and will treat them unfairly we have long passed the age of civility and reason.

so those of you on this thread that think this cop acted badly well stay tuned because that old saw "watch what you wish for because you just may get it" is likely to be a reality.

This country has been turned over to the crazies. God Help Us One And All

Personal Best Regards

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It has been referenced but the hot heads on this thread won't even stay quiet long enough to hear another point of view. And ironically it is exactly why we are having these clashes around the country because people won't listen.

Prior to this incident Casebolt, the cop, was called to assist a man who was attempting suicide the man succeeded in shooting himself in the head. Casebolt was then called to a second suicide attempt with a young girl who wanted to jump off a roof. The police had a successful attempt and saved her life. Casebolt was then called to what was described as a riot.

The cell phone captured the moment. But Rashamon Effect explains that people witness the same event differently.

What I saw was a guy trying to do his job. what I saw were white kids who obeyed the cops instructions and didn't move. what I saw were two young black males coming at the cop and the cop reacted...and given what has transpired since Ferguson who can blame him . what i saw was a young black girl doing her best to resist this cop.

What I have read mostly on this thread are people who would have acted like those black kids who were defiant .When you get a guy like Mayor di blasio that shows such contempt for the police that he instructs his son that cops do not like black kids and will treat them unfairly we have long passed the age of civility and reason.

so those of you on this thread that think this cop acted badly well stay tuned because that old saw "watch what you wish for because you just may get it" is likely to be a reality.

This country has been turned over to the crazies. God Help Us One And All

Personal Best Regards

Excellent post ... I agree with the gist of what you said

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It has been referenced but the hot heads on this thread won't even stay quiet long enough to hear another point of view. And ironically it is exactly why we are having these clashes around the country because people won't listen.

Prior to this incident Casebolt, the cop, was called to assist a man who was attempting suicide the man succeeded in shooting himself in the head. Casebolt was then called to a second suicide attempt with a young girl who wanted to jump off a roof. The police had a successful attempt and saved her life. Casebolt was then called to what was described as a riot.

The cell phone captured the moment. But Rashamon Effect explains that people witness the same event differently.

What I saw was a guy trying to do his job. what I saw were white kids who obeyed the cops instructions and didn't move. what I saw were two young black males coming at the cop and the cop reacted...and given what has transpired since Ferguson who can blame him . what i saw was a young black girl doing her best to resist this cop.

What I have read mostly on this thread are people who would have acted like those black kids who were defiant .When you get a guy like Mayor di blasio that shows such contempt for the police that he instructs his son that cops do not like black kids and will treat them unfairly we have long passed the age of civility and reason.

so those of you on this thread that think this cop acted badly well stay tuned because that old saw "watch what you wish for because you just may get it" is likely to be a reality.

This country has been turned over to the crazies. God Help Us One And All

Personal Best Regards

Nothing more needs to be said.
The other side effect of what is underway is where, some....some....superiors will roll over and abandon controversy to remain personally out of the media and special interest target zone. All the more pressure for the underlings at all levels to be overly conservative in the performance of their duties...no matter the seriousness of the event.

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There is something wrong when the media and even this forum spend so much time on the severe beating the young, black teenage girl took at hands of an out of control officer. (Please recognize sarcasm). I'm still very much troubled by the "white" family, including a young child and helpless housekeeper was beat and tortured to death with among other things a baseball bat. I'd prefer to see that every hour on all the networks until it is solved to remind us of the scum our police deal with daily. I'm probably not a good American but would have no problem sending the one suspect they have out of the country to be water boarded to identify his helper(s).

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There is something wrong when the media and even this forum spend so much time on the severe beating the young, black teenage girl took at hands of an out of control officer. (Please recognize sarcasm). I'm still very much troubled by the "white" family, including a young child and helpless housekeeper was beat and tortured to death with among other things a baseball bat. I'd prefer to see that every hour on all the networks until it is solved to remind us of the scum our police deal with daily. I'm probably not a good American but would have no problem sending the one suspect they have out of the country to be water boarded to identify his helper(s).

I am a "...good American..." and I say save the plane ticket and do what ever has to be done to get the answer....what ever needs to be done....like the old days before permissiveness and intolerane for anything involving enforcement.

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And now we are seeing people being fired just for voicing their opinions. If you didn't see this cop incident as racial (which I did Not) and you voice that opinion, you could lose your job. Moving more towards socialism everyday as we lose our Freedoms of speech

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And now we are seeing people being fired just for voicing their opinions. If you didn't see this cop incident as racial (which I did Not) and you voice that opinion, you could lose your job. Moving more towards socialism everyday as we lose our Freedoms of speech

No, not racial but definitely an out of control cop that had to be restrained by two other officers after he drew his pistol.

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Cop was not restrained by the two other cops. He reholstered his weapon properly. Lesson to be learned from all this is kids need to learn to respect authority and obey an officer's commands and 2) Never walk up or sneak up to a cop while he is doing his job. Stay back, stay away and allow him to do what he needs to do to get the situation under control. Cops put their lives on the line for us everyday. They are the Only line of Protection between you and the criminal. If they walk away, your on your own

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Cop was not restrained by the two other cops. He reholstered his weapon properly. Lesson to be learned from all this is kids need to learn to respect authority and obey an officer's commands and 2) Never walk up or sneak up to a cop while he is doing his job. Stay back, stay away and allow him to do what he needs to do to get the situation under control. Cops put their lives on the line for us everyday. They are the Only line of Protection between you and the criminal. If they walk away, your on your own

The racists, the race baiters, the cop haters, the special interest race groups, the arm chair generals with a remote in their hand will, every time elect to not see it that way.

If they did they would have nothing to gain....can't have that.

When the cops and other enforcement stand by and let a situation just run it's course and if some of the supporters get caught in it....MAYBE....there could be a different attitude. When the cops stand by and fold their arms then we will all pay the price....rampant criminal behavior.

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Cop was not restrained by the two other cops. He reholstered his weapon properly. Lesson to be learned from all this is kids need to learn to respect authority and obey an officer's commands and 2) Never walk up or sneak up to a cop while he is doing his job. Stay back, stay away and allow him to do what he needs to do to get the situation under control. Cops put their lives on the line for us everyday. They are the Only line of Protection between you and the criminal. If they walk away, your on your own

Yes, these are rational rules of behavior and should apply to white kids ... but some (not you) seem to believe that to apply them to black kids is somehow unfair. in the meantime, the cops are walking away and I don't blame them

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Has anybody seen this,



The Facts Behind The McKinney Pool Fiasco – Part II | The Last Refuge (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/09/the-facts-behind-the-mckinney-pool-fiasco-part-ii/)

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...and yet, the fact remains: the cowardly cop resigned.

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When the McKinney police chief stated that the 10 other officers did their job properly and this one failed in the performance, it is a fact.

I think his lawyer driven apology was just an attempt to ward off consequences of his inappropriate actions. I do not think race issue was involved but a stressed officer just made poor choices on a real bad day. A couple of days without pay would have been a fair punishment at the most - maybe just a counseling. He did himself no favor by resigning.

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...and yet, the fact remains: the cowardly cop resigned.

Just wondering if this BRAVE ANONYMOUS poster would call this police officer a coward to his face ?

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Just wondering if this BRAVE ANONYMOUS poster would call this police officer a coward to his face ?

How about the brave anonymous poster who called out Caitlyn Jenner or the anonymous posters who have stated things such as the immigrant and black populations just want free stuff from the government and breed like gerbils so they can get more? Would those posters say it directly to the faces of those people?

You are right. Always post only what you would say face to face.

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and, let's try something new and different as well....stay with the topic or question being presented.

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Tiresome but predictable ... cop screws up, liberal media goes apes*** and fellow travelers and arm chair civil rights supporters continue on anti-copy tirade and emotional bashing .... eg as the original OP so perfectly exemplifies.

Left wingers never stop ... and will never be happy until we get to our next utopia with details tbd

The liberal media just can't be everyone BUT Fox! That phrase is just tired and worn out......

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I don't believe the police officer was cowardly.... I do believe he, unlike the other officers, was OUT OF CONTROL! There have been reports that he was under stress do to his day which included suicide calls. No matter what happens in an officer's day the public expects them to address each new situation with calm.

This officer did not, in this case! Should he have resigned? That is my question...

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and, let's try something new and different as well....stay with the topic or question being presented.

I think the question has been answered. The cop was not a coward. He was stressed from a very stressful day and made a choice in his actions that he regretted. No racial issue. Case closed?

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How about the brave anonymous poster who called out Caitlyn Jenner or the anonymous posters who have stated things such as the immigrant and black populations just want free stuff from the government and breed like gerbils so they can get more? Would those posters say it directly to the faces of those people?

You are right. Always post only what you would say face to face.

Would appreciate I if you could cut and paste any of the posts you mentioned specifically. I sure have read a number of posts that generalize, or imply, but

NOT many, if at all SPECIFICALLY AND PERSONALLY aimed at one private citizen calling him a coward. There are facts to se, and are used on the generalizations, but calling a man, specifically, a coward is the height of cowardice itself.

You find fault with people who post details of an issue in general, such as immigration or career welfare folks who do not need to be, yet defend calling a man who has saved lives a coward ?

That sort of defies any logic,don't you think. You find it correct and moral to refer to public officials with cute derisive names because they don't fit into your scheme, but defend calling a public safety officer,who according to reports had already save a life that day, a coward ?

And, the topic and thread title reflects "cowardly Cop"

As a post script, because I think, don't know but believe, that this fits. In reading about trolls, I find this on Wiki right after a discussion of the psychological defects that lead to trolling....

"This is why novice Internet users are routinely admonished, "Do not feed the trolls!" The 2013 study found that trolls often have a high expectation of what it means to be successful, which is higher than they are able to attain, and this results in them resenting others who think they are successful but who fall below their standards."

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Sorry, forgot to add the definition of a troll from the same article.

It fits with the "faux news", regressive, and the cutesy names used exclusively for one political party.

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

I plead guilty to "feeding the trolls" by trying to call them out. That is my bad; I just expect more from TOTV, I suppose than those other sites where they discuss TOTV posters. We are neighbors after all. I have many face to face discussions on politics, always in a respectful manner and always learn something.

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Would appreciate I if you could cut and paste any of the posts you mentioned specifically. I sure have read a number of posts that generalize, or imply, but

NOT many, if at all SPECIFICALLY AND PERSONALLY aimed at one private citizen calling him a coward. There are facts to se, and are used on the generalizations, but calling a man, specifically, a coward is the height of cowardice itself.

You find fault with people who post details of an issue in general, such as immigration or career welfare folks who do not need to be, yet defend calling a man who has saved lives a coward ?

That sort of defies any logic,don't you think. You find it correct and moral to refer to public officials with cute derisive names because they don't fit into your scheme, but defend calling a public safety officer,who according to reports had already save a life that day, a coward ?

And, the topic and thread title reflects "cowardly Cop"

As a post script, because I think, don't know but believe, that this fits. In reading about trolls, I find this on Wiki right after a discussion of the psychological defects that lead to trolling....

"This is why novice Internet users are routinely admonished, "Do not feed the trolls!" The 2013 study found that trolls often have a high expectation of what it means to be successful, which is higher than they are able to attain, and this results in them resenting others who think they are successful but who fall below their standards."

Sorry, but you have me confused with the OP. It was not me! I have posted a couple of times that I do not think the officer was not a coward but stressed due to a terrible day and he made a poor choice in his action and in resigning.

I believe in saying things face to face. I certainly do not like to see posts calling
others names or denigrating classes of people. I did not ever agree with the poster who called the officer a coward. If you read it that way, my usage was incorrect.

No, I am not a troll.

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Sorry, but you have me confused with the OP. It was not me! I have posted a couple of times that I do not think the officer was not a coward but stressed due to a terrible day and he made a poor choice in his action and in resigning.

I believe in saying things face to face. I certainly do not like to see posts calling
others names or denigrating classes of people. I did not ever agree with the poster who called the officer a coward. If you read it that way, my usage was incorrect.

No, I am not a troll.

If I misidentified you, I apologize to you.

The troll definition and part analysis still applies to a few posters on here however.

This being the case, then will you be supplying the cut and paste of those posts referring in a specific manner to "breeding like gerbils" , etc. ?

Oft times posters generalize, sometimes correctly with valid back up, and others just emotionally make general statements, thus my request for your backup.

Jenner is different. He has chosen to make his life very public. He earns a very good living by not only allowing criticism, but welcoming it to fill the coffers.

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If I misidentified you, I apologize to you.

The troll definition and part analysis still applies to a few posters on here however.

This being the case, then will you be supplying the cut and paste of those posts referring in a specific manner to "breeding like gerbils" , etc. ?

Oft times posters generalize, sometimes correctly with valid back up, and others just emotionally make general statements, thus my request for your backup.

Jenner is different. He has chosen to make his life very public. He earns a very good living by not only allowing criticism, but welcoming it to fill the coffers.

I am working on an iPad and do not know how to cut and paste. However, go to the thread of Clinton's Advisors Not Doing Her Good and look at post 5. It says "procreating like gerbils", not breeding. Same thing basically and it truly does sound like a slur against a class of Americans. Tell me if it could be interpreted differently.

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I am working on an iPad and do not know how to cut and paste. However, go to the thread of Clinton's Advisors Not Doing Her Good and look at post 5. It says "procreating like gerbils", not breeding. Same thing basically and it truly does sound like a slur against a class of Americans. Tell me if it could be interpreted differently.

While I do not like the way presented by that poster, I saw no reference to blacks or immigrants in that post. A bit imaginative to add that ?

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I don't see this as a cowardly cop what so ever. This is a cop who most likely has had it and I don't blame him one bit. First of all , the cop was called into another possible riot situation. Everyone was yelling, screaming, etc. The cop was trying to get control of the situation before it got completely out of hand. Now when a cop tells you to leave, you leave. If a cop tells you to sit on ground, you sit on ground. The problem today is the kids have absolutely No respect for authority! (And of course that goes back to No parenting, etc). Instead of the President speaking to the black communities about following a police officers orders, he pals around with Sharpton to provoke more violence. The cop most likely got a bit nervous when two guys came up beside him and he pulled out his weapon. Yes he may have over reacted however how can you police today with what is going on. I feel bad for the cop but I do not blame him one bit. We have become a lawless society under this administration and that is who is to blame. Why be a cop today or join the military with limited rules of engagement. Look what happened when cops were told to stand down in Baltimore. This country is spiraling downhill so fast under liberalism. No rules, no parents this is what you get. God bless that cop for trying to do his job

Agree. The girl was running her loud disrespectful mouth like a common street junky. Either you are delusional or you watched a different video.

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This is the video you want to watch, it tells the whole story. The original video has been pulled, but this link still works.

The Facts Behind The McKinney Pool Fiasco – Part II | The Last Refuge (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/09/the-facts-behind-the-mckinney-pool-fiasco-part-ii/)

[Guest]

I find it disturbing that the focus is on what the cop did or did not do vis a vis what the crowd was doing.

I find it disturbing that there is little mention of how this situation could have turned violent but for the containment by this cop and other officers.

I find it disturbing that some people just do not recognize anarchy when they see it and if people like Obama, Holder Sharption and di Blasio don't restrain their remarks, and if Obama di Blasio Holder etc won't support the local sheriff its going to invite more criminal disobedience.

I find it disturbing that anyone would judge this cop so harshly for his reaction to two teens launching at him especially in this highly emotional disturbance.

In my view the cop given his difficult day reacted properly and contained the situation and his superiors should have backed him up.

What we are seeing, reading, hearing are people who never had respect for authority in the first place and now they have a venue offered on a silver platter by Obama and Company.

More good cops will resign and many will be infected with the blue flue. Crime will increase in many neighbors and cops will not get the respect and appreciation they deserve

Liberals did it to the guys who fought bravely in Vietnam and now they are doing it to our police

Obama will continue to listen to Sharpton and Sharpton will promote the idea of Federales. So ask yourself does this nation really want federal police taking over? Hint: think of Germany, Russia ,Romaine Mexico

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

I don't blame this poor cop for anything. I put more blame on Obama, Sharpton and Jackson. If I was a cop, I would be demanding that the police union stop funding the Democratic Party.

[Guest]

I find it disturbing that the focus is on what the cop did or did not do vis a vis what the crowd was doing.

I find it disturbing that there is little mention of how this situation could have turned violent but for the containment by this cop and other officers.

I find it disturbing that some people just do not recognize anarchy when they see it and if people like Obama, Holder Sharption and di Blasio don't restrain their remarks, and if Obama di Blasio Holder etc won't support the local sheriff its going to invite more criminal disobedience.

I find it disturbing that anyone would judge this cop so harshly for his reaction to two teens launching at him especially in this highly emotional disturbance.

In my view the cop given his difficult day reacted properly and contained the situation and his superiors should have backed him up.

What we are seeing, reading, hearing are people who never had respect for authority in the first place and now they have a venue offered on a silver platter by Obama and Company.

More good cops will resign and many will be infected with the blue flue. Crime will increase in many neighbors and cops will not get the respect and appreciation they deserve

Liberals did it to the guys who fought bravely in Vietnam and now they are doing it to our police

Obama will continue to listen to Sharpton and Sharpton will promote the idea of Federales. So ask yourself does this nation really want federal police taking over? Hint: think of Germany, Russia ,Romaine Mexico

Personal Best Regards:

Good post.

Allow me to add another...I find it disturbing that enforcement of our laws has become political. It all begins with some misbavior, and not by law enforcement on the hunt. That misbehavior is addressed, and from there we color the picture with race, instead of the facts. In Ferguson, ON THIS BOARD, many wanted the policeman said head and now with total and utter disregard for any facts, and that applies to just about any of the many incidents recently. No police out looking to get anybody, just reacting to bad actors.

Then, and while I really hate to say this, because the President has tied his star to someone like Sharpton, off we go. The paid protestors, the demonstration of lies, like the "hands up don't shoot" lie.

It should not surprise. Both the President and the First Lady cut their teeth at Harvard on CRT (critical race theory) which for those already sneering, is not some Obama conspiracy theory. Both the President and his wife were active at Harvard manifesting this theory, and it is all public record.

Look racism exists, but it is not the motive for every act by every white person. We are moving into dangerous territory when even in Hollywood, they are being criticized for not making enough black movies. The push so far left in this country is nearing that ledge.

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Who here at our age would holler at and in the face of a police officer. If he was wrong, take it to the courts, but on the site, listen and shut your mouth. I am surprised that cops don't shoot more of these loud mouth kids.

[Guest]

I find it disturbing that the focus is on what the cop did or did not do vis a vis what the crowd was doing.

I find it disturbing that there is little mention of how this situation could have turned violent but for the containment by this cop and other officers.

I find it disturbing that some people just do not recognize anarchy when they see it and if people like Obama, Holder Sharption and di Blasio don't restrain their remarks, and if Obama di Blasio Holder etc won't support the local sheriff its going to invite more criminal disobedience.

I find it disturbing that anyone would judge this cop so harshly for his reaction to two teens launching at him especially in this highly emotional disturbance.

In my view the cop given his difficult day reacted properly and contained the situation and his superiors should have backed him up.

What we are seeing, reading, hearing are people who never had respect for authority in the first place and now they have a venue offered on a silver platter by Obama and Company.

More good cops will resign and many will be infected with the blue flue. Crime will increase in many neighbors and cops will not get the respect and appreciation they deserve

Liberals did it to the guys who fought bravely in Vietnam and now they are doing it to our police

Obama will continue to listen to Sharpton and Sharpton will promote the idea of Federales. So ask yourself does this nation really want federal police taking over? Hint: think of Germany, Russia ,Romaine Mexico

Personal Best Regards:

Today's version of modern liberalism has morphed into what is a genuine mental disorder. God help us ... although since liberals don't believe in a higher power, who knows what's next?

[Guest]

I don't believe the police officer was cowardly.... I do believe he, unlike the other officers, was OUT OF CONTROL! There have been reports that he was under stress do to his day which included suicide calls. No matter what happens in an officer's day the public expects them to address each new situation with calm.

This officer did not, in this case! Should he have resigned? That is my question...

You are right - the public expectation is and should be as you stated above. However, we are all human. In the line of work that I do, if I make an error I could literally kill someone. I have to live with that thought every working moment and I do everything I possibly can to avoid a situation where that would occur. But being human there are no guarantees because we are not perfect. We go to work sometimes tired, sometimes sick, sometimes stressed - you name it - life is not perfect. To vilify someone over one incident is reprehensible to me. To expect that he may have to pay some consequences - definitely. No, he should not have resigned. A few days suspension and some counseling as a prior poster recommended sounds reasonable to me. This officer may have been too aggressive with this girl, but he did not beat her as others would like us to believe. We all have bad days, but one bad day should not determine the character of a person.

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Today's version of modern liberalism has morphed into what is a genuine mental disorder. God help us ... although since liberals don't believe in a higher power, who knows what's next?

How can you actually post that liberals do not believe in God? Jesus was very liberal. Read St. Mark, chapter 25, verse 35. It speaks of liberalism.

The Unitarian Church and the Quaker Church are both extremely liberal.

You sound like a troll just trying to stir the pot.

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How can you actually post that liberals do not believe in God? Jesus was very liberal. Read St. Mark, chapter 25, verse 35. It speaks of liberalism.

The Unitarian Church and the Quaker Church are both extremely liberal.

You sound like a troll just trying to stir the pot.

1. St Mark, chapter 25, verse 35 does NOT mention liberalism at all. It speaks to giving. Which, implies that you feel that for some reason, Republicans are less generous and giving to those in need.

2. A study by Rice Univ and PennState came to a conclusion about those identified as liberals or conservatives.

"“We found that while both Republicans and Democrats tend to equally value justice and caring for the vulnerable, Republicans place a much higher value on issues of purity and respect for authority,” said Karen Page Winterich, study co-author and assistant professor of marketing at Pennsylvania State University. “Given these differences, Republicans are more inclined to donate to a charity when these values of purity and respect are met, whereas Democrats are more inclined to donate when the emphasis is purely on equality or protection rather than respect"

Giving Differently: Liberals and Conservatives Have Radically Different Views of Charity (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2012/06/01/giving-differently-liberals-and-conservatives-have-radically-different-views-of-charity/)

This study is from 2013

3. In October 2014, a study was done using IRS records, which found....

"It turns out that old Bushism about “compassionate conservatism” may not be a myth after all. In a new analysis of Internal Revenue Service tax records, the Chronicle of Philanthropy on Monday ranked U.S. cities and states by how much money their residents give to charity. The bottom line? People in red states are more generous with their green.

The study, which compared IRS data from 2012 with data from 2006, showed that the 17 most “generous” states -- as measured by the percentage of their income they donated to charity -- voted for Mitt Romney in the last presidential election. The seven states at the bottom of the list, meanwhile, voted for Barack Obama."

Charitable Giving By State: Are Republicans More Generous Than Democrats, Or Just More Religious? (http://www.ibtimes.com/charitable-giving-state-are-republicans-more-generous-democrats-or-just-more-religious-1700059)

I am not a Bible scholar, but would ask if someone who knows the Bible...did I miss something.

I might add that most liberals I know admit, to me anyway privately, that liberals have done a good job of purposely painting the entire Republican Party and conservatives as the opposite.

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St. Mark Chapter 25 Verse 35


"35
h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,"

Quite bold, inaccurate, arrogant, brazen and many other adjectives to imply that only liberals rise to a level as promoted by Jesus.

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I think this officer has/had seen enough of the black/white confrontation results and the circus that accompanies it especially if the media and the politicians and the special interest radicals decide here is another golden opportunity.

He either figured with the girl screaming and a camera just a few feet away he may have realized what was going to come from the media/poitical circus to follow.

Maybe he talked offline to his boss and then decided life is too short to become another Ferguson.

Or he had previously made up his mind this new black/white BS media circus is not worth what a cop has to go through and threw in the towel........like many are in how the currently do (or should say not do their jobs).

Where are the white protestors to come to his aid?

[Guest]

How can you actually post that liberals do not believe in God? Jesus was very liberal. Read St. Mark, chapter 25, verse 35. It speaks of liberalism.

The Unitarian Church and the Quaker Church are both extremely liberal.

You sound like a troll just trying to stir the pot.

Actually, this post is disturbing. It is hateful to suggest something so inappropriate in the name of Jesus, and improperly using Bible quotes to help.

This poster needs to seriously look in the mirror.

[Guest]

St. Mark Chapter 25 Verse 35


"35
h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,"

Quite bold, inaccurate, arrogant, brazen and many other adjectives to imply that only liberals rise to a level as promoted by Jesus.

No, The poster had said that liberals do not believe in God. Jesus was liberal. I know many of conservatives personally who are believers in God and are charitable. Same goes for liberals. We all know some liberals do not believe in God just as we know some conservatives do not believe in God.

[Guest]

Today's version of modern liberalism has morphed into what is a genuine mental disorder. God help us ... although since liberals don't believe in a higher power, who knows what's next?


This is just silly... There are no Liberal's left, the left wing of the Democrats no longer use that word they now identify as PROGRESSIVE.

Me, I did once claim to be liberal but alas I am to conservative on immigration for that label!!

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Actually, this post is disturbing. It is hateful to suggest something so inappropriate in the name of Jesus, and improperly using Bible quotes to help.

This poster needs to seriously look in the mirror.

It is hateful and inappropriate to say Jesus was a liberal? Why?

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No, The poster had said that liberals do not believe in God. Jesus was liberal. I know many of conservatives personally who are believers in God and are charitable. Same goes for liberals. We all know some liberals do not believe in God just as we know some conservatives do not believe in God.

I think you need to define your definition of liberal.

[Guest]

It is hateful and inappropriate to say Jesus was a liberal? Why?

Can't speak for the poster who wrote what you are referring to, but I find it offensive when someone takes one bible quote or portion of one and uses it for their own agenda, generally using it inappropriately. Many lies have been told over the centuries using the bible in that fashion. It is not a book where you can pick and choose. For those of us who believe in it, it is the book of life, to be read and understood in it's entirety.

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Can't speak for the poster who wrote what you are referring to, but I find it offensive when someone takes one bible quote or portion of one and uses it for their own agenda, generally using it inappropriately. Many lies have been told over the centuries using the bible in that fashion. It is not a book where you can pick and choose. For those of us who believe in it, it is the book of life, to be read and understood in it's entirety.

Do you believe Jesus was a liberal or conservative? Please explain your reasoning.

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No, The poster had said that liberals do not believe in God. Jesus was liberal. I know many of conservatives personally who are believers in God and are charitable. Same goes for liberals. We all know some liberals do not believe in God just as we know some conservatives do not believe in God.

The post I responded to said...liberalism was mentioned in the Bible....NOT TRUE. He gave chapter and verse where he said it was mentioned..NOT TRUE.

It implied,and I admit it was an implication, was the only dogma that abided by the teaching of Jesus, and somehow those not affiliated with liberalism are the only caring people on earth.

I debunked everything he said with detail

If I misread it, I am sorry, but I am pretty sure I know who posted it as he added the little barb about trolls, etc., thus I was not speaking with no substance.

While nobody should ever be so presumptions as to profess what people believe, ( as to say liberals do not believe in God) there are and have been, and continue to be posters who, ON THIS FORUM, have professed NON belief in God, and taken aim at any Christian who has strong beliefs.

I have no idea of anyone's personal beliefs, but I have grown weary of Christians having to explain their belief in God and morals. This kind of rhetoric, and this is what this poster had in mind for sure ...anyway, this kind of anti Christian rhetoric does tend to make you wonder about the belief system some have or do not have. Most, if not all, of the anti God, anti organized religion begins on the left, thus it does give you pause.

On this board alone, we were treated to an entire thread about that family on reality TV and the sexual charges. That thread was begun by a far left poster who we all know and was starte to "needle", "harass" Rev Huckabee because he had befriended this family. Many posts on there simply attacking people in one party, using the pretense of the relationship between Rev Huckabee and this family. I might add that the OP admitted the thread was based on Huckabee relationship, AS A MAN OF GOD.

Some posts on here are innocent errors, but some are deliberate attempts to mock, and the one you are correcting which was one of my two responses to this poster, was a inaccurate, not well veiled attempt to join Jesus with liberal politics of today.

I took offense to that and showed with statistics the total absurdity of the post.

I am sorry if I misread your defense of that poster, but I assure you I did not misread his post.

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Do you believe Jesus was a liberal or conservative? Please explain your reasoning.

Who would ever be able to answer such a question, and who would be so arrogant and self absorbed as to ask it ?

Why would anyone ask that unless you felt "Jesus like" because of your political agenda, and felt that somehow, God is looking down and blessing one political ideology.

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It is hateful and inappropriate to say Jesus was a liberal? Why?

If that is a serious question, then the problem is deeper than we all believe.

To have the gall to place a political ideology mantle on Jesus is, to me, the epitome of arrogance and lack of any true belief.

To even hint to that as you do is quite offensive to me.

That implies that any Christian who worships Jesus in a conservative church, by someone's definition, is in the wrong place...well, you think much more of yourself than I think of myself.

And I might add, this little trick of using Jesus in a tool for political means is not that new, but remains offensive

[Guest]

How has a ridiculous thread on a policeman that did not act in accordance with his department policies become one to call him a coward and then morph into liberalism and the Bible?

I think it has spun so far off topic that I suggest we quit it voluntarily.

Okay?

[Guest]

It is hateful and inappropriate to say Jesus was a liberal? Why?

It is a feeble attempt to then say that non liberals are non caring racists.

Oft used, never successful, and shown to be a lie on here with great validation.

Also, speaks to those who even have the gumption to make such a claim.

[Guest]

How has a ridiculous thread on a policeman that did not act in accordance with his department policies become one to call him a coward and then morph into liberalism and the Bible?

I think it has spun so far off topic that I suggest we quit it voluntarily.

Okay?

YOU ARE CORRECT.

My fault totally.

I allowed myself, as I admitted earlier to engage with the trolls.

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YOU ARE CORRECT.

My fault totally.

I allowed myself, as I admitted earlier to engage with the trolls.

Not totally - me too. I took the bait to defend something that is very important to me.............now onward to our regularly scheduled discussion.....:popcorn: