Marriage Equality

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Never thought I would see this day....

Gays marriages recognized in all 50 states!!!!!

Equal Rights for gay couples.....

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I am delighted with the Supreme Court ruling. :BigApplause:

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I am delighted with the Supreme Court ruling. :BigApplause:

I totally agree .... but be prepared for the Mastodons to come on here any moment now bellowing about how it is the end of times

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i totally agree .... But be prepared for the mastodons to come on here any moment now bellowing about how it is the end of times

lol!!!!

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I am glad to see that there are some people with good sense on this page. Good ruling SCOTUS.

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It should be some crazy times at the Pride Parades in New York and Chicago this Sunday.

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it's about time!!!

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5-4 in favor was the vote I had expected. Great news!

It only could have been better with a 9-0 vote but what are the chances that Alito or Thomas would something rational?

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5-4 in favor was the vote I had expected. Great news!

It only could have been better with a 9-0 vote but what are the chances that Alito or Thomas would something rational?

< 0 and you forgot Scalia

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Yeah!
Now let's get on with those things that affect the rest of we the people and America....you know the other 90%!

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Now let's see how much tolerance will be shown for people with strong religious beliefs.

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Don't believe the Supreme Court has the legal authority to redefine the meaning of marriage for our country. Have no problem with a gay union and equal rights, but do have a problem calling that union a marriage because in MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION it is not a marriage.

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Don't believe the Supreme Court has the legal authority to redefine the meaning of marriage for our country.

Have no problem with a gay union and equal rights,

but do have a problem calling that union a marriage because in MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION it is not a marriage.

Yes they do

Yes you do

That is your right .... but it is why you actually do have a problem

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Don't believe the Supreme Court has the legal authority to redefine the meaning of marriage for our country. Have no problem with a gay union and equal rights, but do have a problem calling that union a marriage because in MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION it is not a marriage.


The government may not violate the equal rights of individuals in any area which it asserts its authority. As long as states issue marriage licenses to heterosexual couples, they must issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

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Don't believe the Supreme Court has the legal authority to redefine the meaning of marriage for our country. Have no problem with a gay union and equal rights, but do have a problem calling that union a marriage because in MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION it is not a marriage.

Dear Guest,

You are a dinosaur and are just out of touch with reality. Your personal opinion is not worth a pail of warm spit.

Personal Best Regards:

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Whats the story with the name calling? Grow up.

Dear Guest,

You are a dinosaur and are just out of touch with reality. Your personal opinion is not worth a pail of warm spit.

Personal Best Regards:

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Don't believe the Supreme Court has the legal authority to redefine the meaning of marriage for our country. Have no problem with a gay union and equal rights, but do have a problem calling that union a marriage because in MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION it is not a marriage.

GOD made the law and it is so and it is a good law. Man can not change it only in their heads. Why for thousands and thousands of years was this not allowed? Oh I forgot this generation is far more advance than all who have come before us. One only has to read what happens to a society that was run without the laws of GOD in tact - The book is in the old testament in
Genesis 19. Now does this sound like a place you would want to live? How about your children and grandchildren.
Your silence on this makes my heart sick!

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So now we read some examples of a lack of tolerance for different opinions "Your personal opinion is not worth a pail of warm spit" from one who was looking for tolerance for beliefs before the Supreme Court ruled.

Bottom line, the group that is completely overjoyed are the divorce lawyers of America who just had a new 50 state market for their services handed to them by SCOTUS.

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Wish everyone would stop name calling. One of the posters is not a dinosaur because he believes in traditional marriage. The majority of Americans do even though the days of we the people are gone

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Now let's see how much tolerance will be shown for people with strong religious beliefs.

You have the freedom of religion that will never change.....but while you are asking for your religious rights to be respected you ignore our civil rights. If you open a business for public accommodation you cannot refuse service on the basis of your personal beliefs. To put it another way your religious rights stop when they meet my civil rights.

Mixed race marriage was denied on a religious basis the judge, in his opinion, said that GOD separated the races by regions and therefore didn't want them mixed.

I still remember the signs regarding school desegregation...the bible says don't mix the races...did you forget that?

There will be cases of civil rights violations there will be laws enacted to "protect" religious freedom but we have already had a peek at that. Think Indiana

As for me when my partner and I were celebrating our 20 anniversary we hired a photographer my first question to him was "Do you have an issue with a same sex couple" he said no and I said your hired.

If my 86 year old aunt the very Catholic nun can get over that fact that I am gay and married so can you.

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At least gay marriage will reduce the number of screwed up people.

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There is going to be some real anger about this issue. However, anger does not constitute law. It's about time that America recognizes the rights of a group of people that has been left out in the past. "We the People" just got bigger and that's a good thing.

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You mean the other 98%

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Supreme Court Ruling and Christian Outrage
Michael Cheshire June 26, 2015 Blog, Faith 9 Comments
For all my Christian friends blowing up the internet angry about the Supreme Court’s decision to legalize gay marriage for our country. Please remember a few things before you vent…

First and foremost….calm down. Some of us are already acting like buffoons.

Your religion is not being attacked. In fact, this ruling actually reinforces our countries commitment to let people live, grow, and even worship as they believe.

This ruling doesn’t ask you to change any of Jesus’ message.

We can still love.

We can still show kindness and understanding.

We can still show everyone they really do matter to God.

We can still marry the opposite sex, as well.

We can still feed the hungry and clothe the poor.

We can still worship God the way we believe we should. Even this Sunday, you can attend a church. Nothing has changed.

Maybe now that we are not trying to stop others from getting married, we can finally take the time to figure out why our own marriages are failing; because, the argument that a gay-marriage is somehow soiling the sanctity of our third marriage, is as ridiculous as it sounds.

We can now focus on bigger issues that actually matter and impact humanity for the good.

We can still (and should) be accepting to the entire LGBT community no matter what differences we may or may not have with them, (FYI- we should have been doing this all along guys).

You know, I have always found it interesting how our religion, based so deeply in love, acceptance, and kindness, gets easily hijacked into political hatred and social judgments. We need to stop trying to legislate our own morality and ethics onto those who don’t believe the same way. Jesus never did this. And in truth, most of us “Christians” disagree greatly on the tenants of what are “moral issues” within our own faith. In many ways, we are a herd of cats trying to steer the world. And, it’s not working people.

And to my many friends in the LGBT community…Congratulations, my friends! I am happy for you all. As a proud member of the American community, I believe that you should have the same rights as everyone else. It’s one of the things that makes our country such a great place to live.

Now my Christian brothers and sisters, you are free to carry on with your outrage, anger, and venting…

But, when you’re done could you give the rest of us a hand?! Jesus’ love is a pretty heavy thing to carry all the way to the rest world and we could use the help.

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i am not overjoyed at this decision because i don't think the judiciary should make laws, that is the job of the legislature, and in the best circumstances the majority vote...in most cases where the issue was voted on, the people did not want same sex marriage, but the judiciary overturned the states' rights..i was very upset to see photos of our White House, a symbol of ALL the people, slathered in rainbow lights and sent out all over the social media. i want it known all over the world that the majority of American people do not want the definition of marriage changed. and it has nothing to do with hating gay people. it is not a comparable issue to inter-racial marriage, which is still between a man and a woman.

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i am not overjoyed at this decision because i don't think the judiciary should make laws, that is the job of the legislature, and in the best circumstances the majority vote...in most cases where the issue was voted on, the people did not want same sex marriage, but the judiciary overturned the states' rights..i was very upset to see photos of our White House, a symbol of ALL the people, slathered in rainbow lights and sent out all over the social media. i want it known all over the world that the majority of American people do not want the definition of marriage changed. and it has nothing to do with hating gay people. it is not a comparable issue to inter-racial marriage, which is still between a man and a woman.

I view this in the opposite. The court did not make law but ruled that legislative bodies cannot deny, by law, the right of gay couples to marry. I would agree, however, that the White House did not need to slather itself in rainbow lights in order to recognize the minority rights of gay couples.

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Proof positive the democratic party will do and or say ANYTHING to grow the voting block.

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Proof positive the democratic party will do and or say ANYTHING to grow the voting block.

And the Republicans will do anything to reduce the number of citizens voting!!

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Yes! "Liberty & justice for all."

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Supreme Court Ruling and Christian Outrage
Michael Cheshire June 26, 2015 Blog, Faith 9 Comments
For all my Christian friends blowing up the internet angry about the Supreme Court’s decision to legalize gay marriage for our country. Please remember a few things before you vent…

First and foremost….calm down. Some of us are already acting like buffoons.

Your religion is not being attacked. In fact, this ruling actually reinforces our countries commitment to let people live, grow, and even worship as they believe.

This ruling doesn’t ask you to change any of Jesus’ message.

We can still love.

We can still show kindness and understanding.

We can still show everyone they really do matter to God.

We can still marry the opposite sex, as well.

We can still feed the hungry and clothe the poor.

We can still worship God the way we believe we should. Even this Sunday, you can attend a church. Nothing has changed.

Maybe now that we are not trying to stop others from getting married, we can finally take the time to figure out why our own marriages are failing; because, the argument that a gay-marriage is somehow soiling the sanctity of our third marriage, is as ridiculous as it sounds.

We can now focus on bigger issues that actually matter and impact humanity for the good.

We can still (and should) be accepting to the entire LGBT community no matter what differences we may or may not have with them, (FYI- we should have been doing this all along guys).

You know, I have always found it interesting how our religion, based so deeply in love, acceptance, and kindness, gets easily hijacked into political hatred and social judgments. We need to stop trying to legislate our own morality and ethics onto those who don’t believe the same way. Jesus never did this. And in truth, most of us “Christians” disagree greatly on the tenants of what are “moral issues” within our own faith. In many ways, we are a herd of cats trying to steer the world. And, it’s not working people.

And to my many friends in the LGBT community…Congratulations, my friends! I am happy for you all. As a proud member of the American community, I believe that you should have the same rights as everyone else. It’s one of the things that makes our country such a great place to live.

Now my Christian brothers and sisters, you are free to carry on with your outrage, anger, and venting…

But, when you’re done could you give the rest of us a hand?! Jesus’ love is a pretty heavy thing to carry all the way to the rest world and we could use the help.

Many Christians believe in marriage equality. This morning I attended church where I have been an active member since 1996. One of the "Prayers of The People" this morning was a prayer of thanksgiving that marriage equality has now come to all 50 states. And I am also happy that my friends in the LGBT community now have the same right to marry that I as a straight woman have had all my life.

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I view this in the opposite. The court did not make law but ruled that legislative bodies cannot deny, by law, the right of gay couples to marry. I would agree, however, that the White House did not need to slather itself in rainbow lights in order to recognize the minority rights of gay couples.

Seriously?????? You do realize that those pics posted on line were just "Photoshopped" and that the White House did NOT actually "slather itself in rainbow lights" !!

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And the Republicans will do anything to reduce the number of citizens voting!!

BS....Again

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BS....Again

Not to the people who couldn't vote!!!

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Seriously?????? You do realize that those pics posted on line were just "Photoshopped" and that the White House did NOT actually "slather itself in rainbow lights" !!

"The White House was lit with the colors of the rainbow Friday night in honor of the Supreme Court’s ruling that marriage equality is a constitutional right throughout the country.

“Tonight, the White House was lit to demonstrate our unwavering commitment to progress and equality, here in America and around the world,” the White House said in a statement. “The pride colors reflect the diversity of the LGBT community, and tonight, these colors celebrate a new chapter in the history of American civil rights.”

Many other landmarks were illuminated in gay-pride colors overnight as the LGBT community and its allies celebrated the historic ruling."

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/white-house-buildings-across-the-country-light-up-122601444526.html

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Those Rainbow Lights looked beautiful on the White House as a new era of Civil Rights began in the United States.

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Those Rainbow Lights looked beautiful on the White House as a new era of Civil Rights began in the United States.

You didn't read that it was just photo shopped ?

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You didn't read that it was just photo shopped ?

No - did you? Links?

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No - did you? Links?

Post #31, and you know it is true if posted on TOTV.

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Repeating the nonsense of others does not make it true. You sound like you have been effectively brainwashed. Please try to do some independent research instead of relying on others for your thoughts.

And the Republicans will do anything to reduce the number of citizens voting!!

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Post #31, and you know it is true if posted on TOTV.

:BigApplause:

Amazing how those who have learned to parrot their politics instead of thinking for themselves, believe that others will just fall into line.

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Repeating the nonsense of others does not make it true. You sound like you have been effectively brainwashed. Please try to do some independent research instead of relying on others for your thoughts.

All you have to do is look at the Texas Voting Law where an Gun License is acceptable but not a college id.

Why don't you follow your own advance, turn off Fox

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All you have to do is look at the Texas Voting Law where an Gun License is acceptable but not a college id.

Why don't you follow your own advance, turn off Fox


"Fox News Channel has claimed the top 14 cable news programs in total viewers for 15 consecutive months, dating back to March 2014. FNC also claimed eight out of the Top 10 programs in the key A25-54 demo for May 2015."


Top Cable News Shows in May Were (http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/top-cable-news-shows-in-may-were/264046)

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"Fox News Channel has claimed the top 14 cable news programs in total viewers for 15 consecutive months, dating back to March 2014. FNC also claimed eight out of the Top 10 programs in the key A25-54 demo for May 2015."

Top Cable News Shows in May Were (http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/top-cable-news-shows-in-may-were/264046)

Because they give you only what you want to hear. They tell you who to FEAR, what to FEAR and why you should FEAR it!

I don't want to live in FEAR....

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As I stated, do some research so you won't sound like you have been brainwashed and perhaps have a some original thoughts in your head. There are 7 forms of acceptable identification.


Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS
United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph
United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph
United States passport


All you have to do is look at the Texas Voting Law where an Gun License is acceptable but not a college id.

Why don't you follow your own advance, turn off Fox

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As I stated, do some research so you won't sound like you have been brainwashed and perhaps have a some original thoughts in your head. There are 7 forms of acceptable identification.


Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS
United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph
United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph
United States passport

Here are actual cases....

“What I have used for voter registration and for identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote,” 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts said.

Watts has voted in every election for the last forty-nine years. The name on her driver’s license has remained the same for fifty-two years, and the address on her voter registration card or driver’s license hasn’t changed in more than two decades. So imagine her surprise when she was told by voting officials that she would have to sign a “voters affidavit” affirming she was who she said she was.

“Someone looked at that and said, ‘Well, they’re not the same,’” Watts said.

The difference? On the driver’s license, Judge Watts’s maiden name is her middle name. On her voter registration, it’s her actual middle name. That was enough under the new, more strict voter fraud law, to send up a red flag.

“This is the first time I have ever had a problem voting,” Watts said.

The disproportionate impact of the law on women voters could be a major factor in upcoming Texas elections, especially now that Wendy Davis is running for governor in 2014.

Moreover, the state is doing very little to make sure that voters who don’t have an ID can get one. As I mentioned, 600–800,000 registered voters don’t have an acceptable voter ID, but according to the Dallas Morning News “only 41 of the new cards were issued by DPS [Department of Public Safety] as of last week.”

Getting a valid photo ID in Texas can be far more difficult than one assumes. To obtain one of the government-issued IDs now needed to vote, voters must first pay for underlying documents to confirm their identity, the cheapest option being a birth certificate for $22 (otherwise known as a “poll tax”); there are no DMV offices in eighty-one of 254 counties in the state, with some voters needing to travel up to 250 miles to the closest location. Counties with a significant Hispanic population are less likely to have a DMV office, while Hispanic residents in such counties are twice as likely as whites to not have the new voter ID (Hispanics in Texas are also twice as likely as whites to not have a car). “A law that forces poorer citizens to choose between their wages and their franchise unquestionably denies or abridges their right to vote,” a federal court wrote last year when it blocked the law.

Texas has set up mobile voter ID units in twenty counties to help people obtain an ID, but has issued new IDs to only twenty voters at the sites so far.

Supporters of the voter ID law, such as Governor Rick Perry, argue that it’s necessary to stop the rampant menace of voter fraud. But there’s no evidence that voter impersonation fraud is a problem in Texas. According to the comprehensive News21 database, there has been only one successful conviction for voter impersonation—I repeat, only one—since 2000.

Texas has the distinction of being one of the few states that allows you to vote with a concealed weapons permit, but not a student ID. Provisions like these suggest that the law was aimed less at stopping voter fraud and more at stopping the changing demographics of the state.

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Here are actual cases....

“What I have used for voter registration and for identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote,” 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts said.

Watts has voted in every election for the last forty-nine years. The name on her driver’s license has remained the same for fifty-two years, and the address on her voter registration card or driver’s license hasn’t changed in more than two decades. So imagine her surprise when she was told by voting officials that she would have to sign a “voters affidavit” affirming she was who she said she was.

“Someone looked at that and said, ‘Well, they’re not the same,’” Watts said.

The difference? On the driver’s license, Judge Watts’s maiden name is her middle name. On her voter registration, it’s her actual middle name. That was enough under the new, more strict voter fraud law, to send up a red flag.

“This is the first time I have ever had a problem voting,” Watts said.

The disproportionate impact of the law on women voters could be a major factor in upcoming Texas elections, especially now that Wendy Davis is running for governor in 2014.

Moreover, the state is doing very little to make sure that voters who don’t have an ID can get one. As I mentioned, 600–800,000 registered voters don’t have an acceptable voter ID, but according to the Dallas Morning News “only 41 of the new cards were issued by DPS [Department of Public Safety] as of last week.”

Getting a valid photo ID in Texas can be far more difficult than one assumes. To obtain one of the government-issued IDs now needed to vote, voters must first pay for underlying documents to confirm their identity, the cheapest option being a birth certificate for $22 (otherwise known as a “poll tax”); there are no DMV offices in eighty-one of 254 counties in the state, with some voters needing to travel up to 250 miles to the closest location. Counties with a significant Hispanic population are less likely to have a DMV office, while Hispanic residents in such counties are twice as likely as whites to not have the new voter ID (Hispanics in Texas are also twice as likely as whites to not have a car). “A law that forces poorer citizens to choose between their wages and their franchise unquestionably denies or abridges their right to vote,” a federal court wrote last year when it blocked the law.

Texas has set up mobile voter ID units in twenty counties to help people obtain an ID, but has issued new IDs to only twenty voters at the sites so far.

Supporters of the voter ID law, such as Governor Rick Perry, argue that it’s necessary to stop the rampant menace of voter fraud. But there’s no evidence that voter impersonation fraud is a problem in Texas. According to the comprehensive News21 database, there has been only one successful conviction for voter impersonation—I repeat, only one—since 2000.

Texas has the distinction of being one of the few states that allows you to vote with a concealed weapons permit, but not a student ID. Provisions like these suggest that the law was aimed less at stopping voter fraud and more at stopping the changing demographics of the state.

This raises 2 questions in my mind. First, how could a student ID possibly confirm citizenship? I'm assuming that all students, including foreign students who are not citizens of this country, would have to have a student ID. That surely does not mean they are a citizen. On that same note, if you are questioning the legality of using a concealed carry permit as sufficient evidence of citizenship then maybe you do not understand the process of obtaining one.

My second question is regarding your example above. So she had to sign a voters affidavit - was she then able to go ahead and vote? If so, so what?!? Signing an additional piece of paper was that big of a deal?? Just seems to me that people continually want to make mountains out of molehills. If that had been me, I would have been happy to sign whatever was required for the privilege to vote.

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"Texas has the distinction of being one of the few states that allows you to vote with a concealed weapons permit, but not a student ID."

This could very well be why Texans had both George W. and Rick Perry as their gooberenators. All you need is your gun permit and NON- EDUCATED PEOPLE allowed to vote.

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This is such a bunch of BS, and you know it. Go ahead a cherry pick some obscure example. You can't get on a plane without valid ID. If they want to vote they will go get an ID. Go ahead and keep spreading this nonsense. We see you for what you are - clueless and paranoid.


Here are actual cases....

“What I have used for voter registration and for identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote,” 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts said.

Watts has voted in every election for the last forty-nine years. The name on her driver’s license has remained the same for fifty-two years, and the address on her voter registration card or driver’s license hasn’t changed in more than two decades. So imagine her surprise when she was told by voting officials that she would have to sign a “voters affidavit” affirming she was who she said she was.

“Someone looked at that and said, ‘Well, they’re not the same,’” Watts said.

The difference? On the driver’s license, Judge Watts’s maiden name is her middle name. On her voter registration, it’s her actual middle name. That was enough under the new, more strict voter fraud law, to send up a red flag.

“This is the first time I have ever had a problem voting,” Watts said.

The disproportionate impact of the law on women voters could be a major factor in upcoming Texas elections, especially now that Wendy Davis is running for governor in 2014.

Moreover, the state is doing very little to make sure that voters who don’t have an ID can get one. As I mentioned, 600–800,000 registered voters don’t have an acceptable voter ID, but according to the Dallas Morning News “only 41 of the new cards were issued by DPS [Department of Public Safety] as of last week.”

Getting a valid photo ID in Texas can be far more difficult than one assumes. To obtain one of the government-issued IDs now needed to vote, voters must first pay for underlying documents to confirm their identity, the cheapest option being a birth certificate for $22 (otherwise known as a “poll tax”); there are no DMV offices in eighty-one of 254 counties in the state, with some voters needing to travel up to 250 miles to the closest location. Counties with a significant Hispanic population are less likely to have a DMV office, while Hispanic residents in such counties are twice as likely as whites to not have the new voter ID (Hispanics in Texas are also twice as likely as whites to not have a car). “A law that forces poorer citizens to choose between their wages and their franchise unquestionably denies or abridges their right to vote,” a federal court wrote last year when it blocked the law.

Texas has set up mobile voter ID units in twenty counties to help people obtain an ID, but has issued new IDs to only twenty voters at the sites so far.

Supporters of the voter ID law, such as Governor Rick Perry, argue that it’s necessary to stop the rampant menace of voter fraud. But there’s no evidence that voter impersonation fraud is a problem in Texas. According to the comprehensive News21 database, there has been only one successful conviction for voter impersonation—I repeat, only one—since 2000.

Texas has the distinction of being one of the few states that allows you to vote with a concealed weapons permit, but not a student ID. Provisions like these suggest that the law was aimed less at stopping voter fraud and more at stopping the changing demographics of the state.

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"Texas has the distinction of being one of the few states that allows you to vote with a concealed weapons permit, but not a student ID."

This could very well be why Texans had both George W. and Rick Perry as their gooberenators. All you need is your gun permit and NON- EDUCATED PEOPLE allowed to vote.

In case you missed it, see post #46 above. How would you answer that post?

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Supporters of the voter ID law, such as Governor Rick Perry, argue that it’s necessary to stop the rampant menace of voter fraud. But there’s no evidence that voter impersonation fraud is a problem in Texas. According to the comprehensive News21 database, there has been only one successful conviction for voter impersonation—I repeat, only one—since 2000.

Texas has the distinction of being one of the few states that allows you to vote with a concealed weapons permit, but not a student ID. Provisions like these suggest that the law was aimed less at stopping voter fraud and more at stopping the changing demographics of the state.

Voter fraud is a red herring. The republicans use it as justification to make legitimate voting much more difficult. The more difficult it is to obtain registration, the more it eliminates the poor, who have a nasty tendency to vote against republicans, who have done everything in recent years to make their lives more miserable. The right wingers used to be able to suppress the minority vote, especially in the south, by poll taxes and impossibly difficult tests, not to mention lynchings and shootings. Their progeny have become more sophisticated and devious, but the intent is the same.

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This is such a bunch of BS, and you know it. Go ahead a cherry pick some obscure example. You can't get on a plane without valid ID. If they want to vote they will go get an ID. Go ahead and keep spreading this nonsense. We see you for what you are - clueless and paranoid.

My you are angry! Must be all these married gays with health insurance that has set you off.
Personal Best Regards:

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This is such a bunch of BS, and you know it. Go ahead a cherry pick some obscure example. You can't get on a plane without valid ID. If they want to vote they will go get an ID. Go ahead and keep spreading this nonsense. We see you for what you are - clueless and paranoid.

Your nasty attitude will NOT be tolerated....when confronted with the truth this is how you act.

So sorry for you.....

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Your nasty attitude will NOT be toleratedchilout....when confronted with the truth this is how you act.

So sorry for you.....

Oh, all of us thought you had gone down your curmudgeon troll hole.

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No at all. I actually find mindless comments like yours quite amusing. You are clearly not well informed and probably spend your time reading left-wing web sites. MSNBC is probably your source of information and you think Al Sharpton is a genius.

My you are angry! Must be all these married gays with health insurance that has set you off.
Personal Best Regards:

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And just who do you think you are? Jerk.

Your nasty attitude will NOT be tolerated....when confronted with the truth this is how you act.

So sorry for you.....

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Wow!! The liberal trolls are out today without one informative post among them and not able to even answer simple questions. Now I wonder, who IS the uninformed? I think the question has been answered unequivocally on this thread! Way to go...........

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It is obviously cheap entertainment to keep tossing the caustic BS into the fray to see what it unsettles.

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And just who do you think you are? Jerk.

I am the one who will NOT tolerate your nasty posts.....

Sticks and stones may hurt my bones but NAMES will never hurt me.

Nice try.

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No at all. I actually find mindless comments like yours quite amusing. You are clearly not well informed and probably spend your time reading left-wing web sites..

I found this posting on another thread that seems to generally fit in here.
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Amazing that someone from a liberal city can have such reactionary right wing views.

It is really YOU that does not understand the democratic way of life. The Constitution is a living and evolving document. Remember, in the Constitution that there were slaves and they were counted as less than a whole person. The living document changed that. Women could not vote. The living document changed that.

The Executive Branch can veto bills, the Legislative Branch can over ride vetoes, and the Judicial Branch can declare a law unconstitutional. It is called checks and balances.

Anyhow, the Affordable Care Act is now the law of the land. There is marriage equality which is the law of the land.

This is not the 1950's. Joe McCarthy is dead and gone. Caitlyn Jenner is alive and well.

Get into the 21st century. Embrace change.

Go with the flow, keep up or get run over and left at the side of the road as road kill.

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GOD made the law and it is so and it is a good law. Man can not change it only in their heads. Why for thousands and thousands of years was this not allowed? Oh I forgot this generation is far more advance than all who have come before us. One only has to read what happens to a society that was run without the laws of GOD in tact - The book is in the old testament in
Genesis 19. Now does this sound like a place you would want to live? How about your children and grandchildren.
Your silence on this makes my heart sick!






Ah, Geez ......... here we go with the god stuff.

[Guest]

Ah, Geez ......... here we go with the god stuff.

Some day you will have to face it..........the God stuff, that is. Better now than later!

[Guest]

Good come back - loser.

\I am the one who will NOT tolerate your nasty posts.....

Sticks and stones may hurt my bones but NAMES will never hurt me.

Nice try.

[Guest]

You are wrong. The Constitution does not make reference to slaves. Stop getting your information from left-wing websites and do your own research.

I found this posting on another thread that seems to generally fit in here.
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Amazing that someone from a liberal city can have such reactionary right wing views.

It is really YOU that does not understand the democratic way of life. The Constitution is a living and evolving document. Remember, in the Constitution that there were slaves and they were counted as less than a whole person. The living document changed that. Women could not vote. The living document changed that.

The Executive Branch can veto bills, the Legislative Branch can over ride vetoes, and the Judicial Branch can declare a law unconstitutional. It is called checks and balances.

Anyhow, the Affordable Care Act is now the law of the land. There is marriage equality which is the law of the land.

This is not the 1950's. Joe McCarthy is dead and gone. Caitlyn Jenner is alive and well.

Get into the 21st century. Embrace change.

Go with the flow, keep up or get run over and left at the side of the road as road kill.

[Guest]

Originally Posted by Guest View Post

GOD made the law and it is so and it is a good law. Man can not change it only in their heads. Why for thousands and thousands of years was this not allowed? Oh I forgot this generation is far more advance than all who have come before us. One only has to read what happens to a society that was run without the laws of GOD in tact - The book is in the old testament in
Genesis 19. Now does this sound like a place you would want to live? How about your children and grandchildren.
Your silence on this makes my heart sick!
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A couple of things: The Old Testament in The Bible has God's laws written in it. They include the very strict Kosher dietary laws. Do you follow them? The Old Testament has slavery included in it. You do not follow that, do you? The Old Testament talks about concubines and multiple wives. Is our law of one marriage partner in agreement with this? You agree on killing women who have had affairs?

You cannot pick and choose what religious laws you want to use.

Is the current generation more advanced than the generations of Biblical times? Yes.

[Guest]

You are wrong. The Constitution does not make reference to slaves. Stop getting your information from left-wing websites and do your own research.

Read the link. A Look Into the Constitutional Understanding of Slavery | Ashbrook (http://ashbrook.org/publications/respub-v6n1-boyd/) You just might learn something.

Also, have you ever read the 13th Amendment to the Constitution? It prohibited slavery and did not come about until 1865.

You definitely are a troll. Crawl back down your troll hole along with the remaining members of your Gang of Six which is down to two or three.

[Guest]

Look sonny boy, try again and maybe you will learn something. There is no direct reference to slaves. You are truly a coward who hides behind anonymous guest ids. It must really suck to be you. Being a left-wing troll-boy is no way to live.

Read the link. A Look Into the Constitutional Understanding of Slavery | Ashbrook (http://ashbrook.org/publications/respub-v6n1-boyd/) You just might learn something.

Also, have you ever read the 13th Amendment to the Constitution? It prohibited slavery and did not come about until 1865.

You definitely are a troll. Crawl back down your troll hole along with the remaining members of your Gang of Six which is down to two or three.

[Guest]

Look sonny boy, try again and maybe you will learn something. There is no direct reference to slaves. You are truly a coward who hides behind anonymous guest ids. It must really suck to be you. Being a left-wing troll-boy is no way to live.

news flash Einstein ..... you are posting as "Guest" as well

[Guest]

Marriage equality, dignity, love, rainbows etc are labels the left uses to hide the ugliness of of homosexuality. Societies have tolerated homosexuality to one degree or another but not until now have they moved to redefine marriage. The left like it because it garners votes and moves them closer to secularism. The homosexual community like it because in their minds 5 unelected judges have said that their homosexual acts are normal and that was the main target for all of this. It was not about civil rights, etc but a public declaration that what they do is normal. Well it is not normal and I am afraid that by the Supreme Courts Judicial Dictatorship many innocent children are going to be indoctrinated into their lifestyle for many obvious reasons.

[Guest]

Good come back - loser.

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All you can do is call me names...I have a higher level of education than that.

[Guest]

I would guess high school only.

All you can do is call me names...I have a higher level of education than that.

[Guest]

Marriage equality, dignity, love, rainbows etc are labels the left uses to hide the ugliness of of homosexuality. The homosexual community like it because in their minds 5 unelected judges have said that their homosexual acts are normal and that was the main target for all of this. It was not about civil rights, etc but a public declaration that what they do is normal. Well it is not normal and I am afraid that by the Supreme Courts Judicial Dictatorship many innocent children are going to be indoctrinated into their lifestyle for many obvious reasons.

Yep, innocent children are going to be indoctrinated into a lifestyle of tolerance toward others. That is the agenda that we have to fear. So sad that the poster says he is against equality, dignity, and love. Must be terrible to live in a world where hatred toward others is your mantra.

[Guest]

Here's a primer...

You Are a Homosexual and Are Already Married:

If you live in a state that allowed gay marriage, the federal government already recognized your marriage as a thing, and you were eligible for tax, health, and pension benefits under federal law like any other married couple. Previously, if you had moved to another state that didn't recognize gay marriage, that state didn't have to recognize your marriage. Now, your marriage is recognized everywhere, the same as anyone else's.

If You Are a Homosexual and Want to Get Married:

Where before this came down to whether or not your state had legalized it, now you are free to do so regardless of which state you live in.


If You Are Currently in a Heterosexual Marriage:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Is Not Currently Married:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Hopes to Eventually Marry:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Member of a Church That Performs Wedding Ceremonies but That Does Not Believe in Gay Marriage:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Religious Official Who Performs Wedding Ceremonies but Who Thinks Gay Marriage Is Wrong:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are an Individual Who Believes Gay Marriage or Homosexuality in General Is Wrong for Religious Reasons, and Wish to Continue Expressing Those Beliefs:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are an Individual Who Believes Gay Marriage or Homosexuality in General Is Wrong for Non-Religious Reasons, and Wish to Continue Expressing Those Beliefs:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Fears This Decision Adversely Affects Your Marriage or the Concept of Marriage in General:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Fears This Decision Negatively Affects You in Some Way:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Suffers Anger or Anxiety at the Thought of Gay Couples Getting Married as an Abstract Concept, and Believes the Only Cure Is to Legally Prevent Gay Marriage:

This decision will cause you some degree of anger or anxiety. Otherwise, this decision does not affect you in any way.

[Guest]

Here's a primer...

You Are a Homosexual and Are Already Married:

If you live in a state that allowed gay marriage, the federal government already recognized your marriage as a thing, and you were eligible for tax, health, and pension benefits under federal law like any other married couple. Previously, if you had moved to another state that didn't recognize gay marriage, that state didn't have to recognize your marriage. Now, your marriage is recognized everywhere, the same as anyone else's.

If You Are a Homosexual and Want to Get Married:

Where before this came down to whether or not your state had legalized it, now you are free to do so regardless of which state you live in.


If You Are Currently in a Heterosexual Marriage:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Is Not Currently Married:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Hopes to Eventually Marry:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Member of a Church That Performs Wedding Ceremonies but That Does Not Believe in Gay Marriage:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Religious Official Who Performs Wedding Ceremonies but Who Thinks Gay Marriage Is Wrong:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are an Individual Who Believes Gay Marriage or Homosexuality in General Is Wrong for Religious Reasons, and Wish to Continue Expressing Those Beliefs:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are an Individual Who Believes Gay Marriage or Homosexuality in General Is Wrong for Non-Religious Reasons, and Wish to Continue Expressing Those Beliefs:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Fears This Decision Adversely Affects Your Marriage or the Concept of Marriage in General:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Fears This Decision Negatively Affects You in Some Way:

This decision does not affect you in any way.


If You Are a Heterosexual Who Suffers Anger or Anxiety at the Thought of Gay Couples Getting Married as an Abstract Concept, and Believes the Only Cure Is to Legally Prevent Gay Marriage:

This decision will cause you some degree of anger or anxiety. Otherwise, this decision does not affect you in any way.

You forgot the most important one....

If you are a hetrosexual or any other normal one......except for the daily homo blasting in the news....except for every damn movie or show on television blasting homo ......except for every other thread on some forums constantly referring to homo stuff.....and Obama and Sharpton and the Supremes trying to make a point....homo promos should not be bothering you!

BS!

[Guest]

You forgot the most important one....

If you are a hetrosexual or any other normal one......except for the daily homo blasting in the news....except for every damn movie or show on television blasting homo ......except for every other thread on some forums constantly referring to homo stuff.....and Obama and Sharpton and the Supremes trying to make a point....homo promos should not be bothering you!

BS!
When it becones old news all this will die down.

[Guest]

:pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:Yep, innocent children are going to be indoctrinated into a lifestyle of tolerance toward others. That is the agenda that we have to fear. So sad that the poster says he is against equality, dignity, and love. Must be terrible to live in a world where hatred toward others is your mantra.

Thank you!

[Guest]

:pepper2:I am delighted with the Supreme Court ruling. :BigApplause:

[Guest]

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[Guest]

The Supreme court forgot one thing when they signed the gay law. No marriage is legal until it is consummated. To consummate a marriage means the couple must have intercourse before the marriage is legal. I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how any gay couple can have intercourse.

[Guest]

The Supreme court forgot one thing when they signed the gay law. No marriage is legal until it is consummated. To consummate a marriage means the couple must have intercourse before the marriage is legal. I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how any gay couple can have intercourse.


What state or country has the qualification that a marriage is not legal until it is consummated? How do they determine when the qualification has been met? Does a government inspector come to your bedroom? Tell us more.

[Guest]

The Supreme court forgot one thing when they signed the gay law. No marriage is legal until it is consummated. To consummate a marriage means the couple must have intercourse before the marriage is legal. I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how any gay couple can have intercourse.
I guess you've never been in prison[emoji6] I think the consummated verbiage is a Catholic teaching.

[Guest]

The Supreme court forgot one thing when they signed the gay law. No marriage is legal until it is consummated. To consummate a marriage means the couple must have intercourse before the marriage is legal. I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how any gay couple can have intercourse.

Are you serious?

[Guest]

The Supreme court forgot one thing when they signed the gay law. No marriage is legal until it is consummated. To consummate a marriage means the couple must have intercourse before the marriage is legal. I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how any gay couple can have intercourse.

Ironic, but the act used by males was totally illegal in this country about 11 years ago, and these acts are still illegal in close to 50% of the nations in the world.

[Guest]

" I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how any gay couple can have intercourse."
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If you have grandkids over the age of 12, ask them. They will explain it to you.

[Guest]

" I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how any gay couple can have intercourse."
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If you have grandkids over the age of 12, ask them. They will explain it to you.

This and gay agenda post given the best laugh I've had in a year!!!

[Guest]

If they are now equal how do they determine which one has the baby?

[Guest]

If they are now equal how do they determine which one has the baby?

I think it might be the one that gets pregnant.....