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samhass
08-11-2008, 01:55 PM
Has anyone noticed the new gate signs going up? Ours says "No Pedestrians". I saw one in Mallory, as well. That's not such a big deal in Mallory since you can walk out using the cart path. In our village, the cart path is outside the gate. In essence, we can't walk from inside our village to outside our village without crossing private property. I think that's odd. It means we can't walk for the mail. Our mailboxes are outside of our village. I understand it's a safety issue, but it's not impossible to make a careful exit out of our gate when on foot.

chelsea24
08-11-2008, 02:00 PM
:yikes: Sam! You're trapped inside forever! Someone help her! LOLOL 1rnfl


***Sorry, I'm so not in a serious mood today! :joke:

KathieI
08-11-2008, 02:05 PM
***Sorry, I'm so not in a serious mood today! :joke:

Was it the mayonaise, Chels???? We noticed you left totv very early last night!!

chelsea24
08-11-2008, 02:43 PM
No, Kathie. Moved on to Dijon Mustard. TANGY! 1rnfl 1rnfl 1rnfl

ConeyIsBabe
08-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm....... let's say I lived in TV and wanted to take a walk to the nearest shopping center to window-shop or purchase a couple of items. Are all the stores INSIDE TV ? I guess some stores are outside. According to the signs... am I not allowed to walk in and out ?

I'm so CORN-FUSED :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:

graciegirl
08-11-2008, 03:39 PM
Coney. You can walk around most anywhere, but it is really better to take a golf cart, because sometimes it is a LONG walk. Sam is talking about the village she lives in, I think Bridgeport, a beautiful village of Premier homes. It appears that to get to the mail area you must go across someone's lawn or property. Sam will explain. I didn't know their mail area is on the outside of their village.

tkret
08-11-2008, 04:00 PM
CIBabe,
When you make your first visit to TV I would suggest that you NOT rent a golf car but use the automobile you will probably arrive in (either your own, your daughter's, or the rental car picked up that the airport). It is true that TV is golf car-friendly but that is for folks who are a little more familiar with the trails and the golf car, itself. The first time I visited I did not rent a golf car and it turned out, for me, to be the right decision. With a "regular" automobile you can cover more territory in less time and you won't be intimidated to visit the mini-malls around the outskirts of TV, itself.

By the time your first visit is concluded you'll be more inclined to use a golf car the next time you visit because you'll have more knowledge of the area.

Taltarzac
08-11-2008, 04:10 PM
Has anyone noticed the new gate signs going up? Ours says "No Pedestrians". I saw one in Mallory, as well. That's not such a big deal in Mallory since you can walk out using the cart path. In our village, the cart path is outside the gate. In essence, we can't walk from inside our village to outside our village without crossing private property. I think that's odd. It means we can't walk for the mail. Our mailboxes are outside of our village. I understand it's a safety issue, but it's not impossible to make a careful exit out of our gate when on foot.


The gate at Belvedere has one of these going to and from CR466. Think that is really strange as people walk to the Villages Public Library past the Belvedere Gate and there is a sidewalk on the east side of the Belvedere Gate. Seems like another mess up with a sign to me as far as the Belvedere Gate is concerned.

samhass
08-11-2008, 04:47 PM
Gracie, We pick up our mail over @ Bridgeport @ Lake Miona. Bridgeport @ Lake Sumter has no mail boxes or pool inside the village.

ConeyIsBabe
08-11-2008, 04:59 PM
tkret....... THANKSalot for the excellent advice; I'd already come to the same conclusion because from everything I've read on TOTV, there is some skill and knowledge involved in golf-cart riding :agree:

And, perhaps I'll find some hospitable TVer to escort my daughter and I, in his/her golf cart, for us to get a feeling of what it's like; that's if/when we do our first Lifestyle Preview this winter, or next spring :dontknow:.

chuckinca
08-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm....... let's say I lived in TV and wanted to take a walk to the nearest shopping center to window-shop or purchase a couple of items. Are all the stores INSIDE TV ? I guess some stores are outside. According to the signs... am I not allowed to walk in and out ?

I'm so CORN-FUSED :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:



CIB:

The stores are mainly built along highways (441/27 East side, 42 North side, 466A South side, 466 Old South side now East/West road in Center of TV, West side is near 301) that TV was built adjacent to. LSL is completely inside TV and not on a highway (466 is close by).

ConeyIsBabe
08-11-2008, 05:25 PM
Thank you chuckinca for that clarification.

I guess if/when the time comes for me to relocate to TV that will be another consideration.... walkable access to some form of civilization (stores, restaurants, rec center & pool)..... to add to my list of things to avoid = train noise, sewer smell, sinkholes, ghetto pool, gas lines in ceiling. Did I miss anything ?

Negative Post :cop: shoo! It's just a teeny-weenie bit of scarcasm, not meant to ruffle anyone's feathers ::)

chuckinca
08-11-2008, 08:27 PM
CIB:

Take one sip of the kool aid and you'll be one of the Village people.


Is your dog a Rat Terrier?

ConeyIsBabe
08-11-2008, 09:01 PM
chuckinca.... YES, "Jack" is a 1-1/2 year-old Rat Terrier. He's a rambunctious handfull! If you're familiar with the breed.... any training tips??

Oh.... oh..... Off-Topic :cop: I'm thinking of starting a new topic in the Pet Forum for TRAINING TIPS. We can take it there ;)

livsea2
08-11-2008, 09:23 PM
Ahem.... back to the topic ;) What exactly does this sign mean? I mean by it's position and location, does it mean no pedestrians entering that particular village? No pedestrians leavining? We are walkers (as in exercise walkers) and we were staying in Belvedere and we walked out of the village and then some. Probably 3-4 miles. Do you mean this is no longer permitted? It sounds strange for a no pedestrian sign in the villages.

graciegirl
08-11-2008, 09:51 PM
Ahem.... back to the topic ;) What exactly does this sign mean? I mean by it's position and location, does it mean no pedestrians entering that particular village? No pedestrians leavining? We are walkers (as in exercise walkers) and we were staying in Belvedere and we walked out of the village and then some. Probably 3-4 miles. Do you mean this is no longer permitted? It sounds strange for a no pedestrian sign in the villages.


I am sure it just means no walking at some of the gates because of a safety issue. I had heard before that some of the gates had some difficulty with the views of traffic being obscured in some way. Surely that would mean it would be doubly dangerous to walk in that area.

livsea2
08-11-2008, 11:19 PM
I'm sorry maybe I am dense but I still don't understand. Are you saying you can't walk in front of the gate like across the road in front of the gate? OR you can't walk out of the village pass the gate? The former makes sense for safety reasons, the latter I am sorry but is not sensible. ???

samhass
08-12-2008, 11:31 AM
You can't walk out of the village. In Mallory, you can by walking the cart path. In B@LS it appears you are not supposed to walk past the gate. There is no other way out except over private property.

villages07
08-12-2008, 11:47 AM
Sam,

I noticed a similar sign at the exit from Largo on Canal. It is a small rectangular sign...something to the effect

"Gate closes after each vehicle | No Pedestrians"

and is certainly meant for safety. Of course, at this location, there is a sidewalk on the opposite side of the street where pedestrians should be.

For B@LS, I can see how it is different...question though, the property walking around the gate in the grass....is that common area or is it an individual's yard?

Of course, you could try the route to call the CDD office and inquire as to expected procedure for this location. Perhaps, they approved a one size fits all sign solution and no one realized that there are exceptions.

livsea2
08-12-2008, 11:56 AM
Yes I agree, I would call for clarification. That just doesn't make sense. It sounds stupid but maybe they are saying you can't walk though the gate? I have seen dumber signs as warnings due to liability. ???

chelsea24
08-12-2008, 01:33 PM
Yes, that could be it. Like the people that walk up to a drive-up window at a bank or pharmacy. I've seen that too. :dontknow:

samhass
08-12-2008, 01:53 PM
I really don't care about the signs. I have no intention of walking out of here anyway. I know some people do though. If there was an emergency and I really needed to walk out, I'd walk out. As it is, I am probably the farthest from the gate and have plenty of walking room inside the village.

kit9240
08-12-2008, 02:17 PM
I was in TV in June on Lifestyle Preview and did not rent a golf cart this trip. I stayed in Caroline. I wanted to walk to Sweet Bays which is very close. I had to walk on the golf cart path and under the tunnel because there are no sidewalks and it is too dangerous to walk in the rotary. I wondered if pedestrians are permitted to walk in the golf cart paths. Is this what you are referring to?

ConeyIsBabe
08-12-2008, 04:26 PM
Kit asks a question I'm curious about also; can pedestrians safely walk on the golf cart paths or will the golf cart drivers beep at them in anger? Remember, I've never visited TV and am not familiar with the layout ::)

tkret
08-12-2008, 04:32 PM
Kit asks a question I'm curious about also; can pedestrians safely walk on the golf cart paths or will the golf cart drivers beep at them in anger? Remember, I've never visited TV and am not familiar with the layout ::)


Thanks for asking this question, ConeyIsBabe. That's something many of us wannabees need to know. I'll be interested in hearing an answer to your inquiry. Thanks, again, for a great question.

MSNPA
08-12-2008, 04:52 PM
This is for those that asked about walking on golf cart paths. I walk almost every day, through neighborhoods, but mostly on the golf cart paths. I would say 99.99% of golf cart drivers are very courteous. Most go out of their way to give me space. Then again I am a courteous walker; I walk the correct direction (towards traffic) and hug the side of the path. I always feel very safe. I must admit I do not walk through the tunnels. When I want/need to get to the other side of a street I cross very carefully.

chuckinca
08-12-2008, 04:55 PM
Kit asks a question I'm curious about also; can pedestrians safely walk on the golf cart paths or will the golf cart drivers beep at them in anger? Remember, I've never visited TV and am not familiar with the layout ::)



I, for one, wouldn't walk on a cart path unless it was the only available path and then I would be ready to jump out of the way when a cart came by.

downeaster
08-12-2008, 08:42 PM
The so called "golf cart paths" are not really golf cart paths . They are multi modal paths. They are for golf carts, pedestrians (with and without dogs), incline skaters , bicycles and even small motor scooters. The real golf cart paths are on the golf courses.
Pedestrians should walk facing golf cart traffic for their own safety.
The problem is, a lot of golf cart drivers think they are for their use only and some in tend to "brush" pedestrians. As a walker, I avoid them. Plenty of places to walk without utilizing the paths.
By the way, speaking of bicyclists, for you auto drivers, Florida law says you must pass bikes leaving 3 feet of space between your car and the cyclist. Brushing a cyclist is not only dangerous but can be expensive.

DC

swrinfla
08-12-2008, 08:55 PM
Almost every trip I've made along the Buena Vista pathway in the last month or more, I've seen many walkers, including one who must walk a gazillion miles a day! I find no problem with walkers coming at me on this path. Going with my flow on the same side is, on the other hand, a no-no!

I should point out, I think, for those who aren't here yet, that the paths south of CR466 are almost twice as wide as those north of CR466. I would feel much less comfortable about walkers "up north!"

SWR

chelsea24
08-12-2008, 09:32 PM
It's my understanding that the golf cart paths are really "Recreational Paths". That's what the signs say. So yes, walkers, bicycles, skaters, etc. are able to use them. If you'll notice, all the paths use the signage of Recreational Paths, at least south they do. i.e. Buena Vista Recreational Path. I've seen many people walking and bicycling.

ConeyIsBabe
08-12-2008, 10:00 PM
THANKS to everyone who have explained that the paved paths are for walkers also. Bad knees have slowed me down, but I do like to walk -- and always with a destination -- STORES!! I'm positive that if/when I relocate to TV it will be important for me to be within walking distance to restaurants and shopping ;D ;D ;D So this is good news :bigthumbsup: