Theater Shooting

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Another senseless shooting of innocent people in a public place!

People killed and wounded in a movie theater last night in Lafayette, Louisiana.

What, if anything, is known of the shooter? Was this another Muslim out to seek his 72 virgins in the afterlife? The late news last night didn't have any information on who the shooter was or anything about him.

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The shooter was a tea party member and a white supremacists. This is not the time to talk about gun control. The best time to talk about gun control is the 12th of Never.

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10 Big Questions in the U.S. Gun Control Debate - HowStuffWorks (http://people.howstuffworks.com/10-questions-in-gun-control-debate.htm)

This might be of help.

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The shooter was a tea party member and a white supremacists. This is not the time to talk about gun control. The best time to talk about gun control is the 12th of Never.

Just because the lid was ajar on your hole doesn't mean you can come out!

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The shooter was a tea party member and a white supremacists. This is not the time to talk about gun control. The best time to talk about gun control is the 12th of Never.

Lo*. And his crony believe all the ills of the world are caused by the Tea Party.

I am not sure he could survive if the Tea Party disbanded......what group to blame for everything !

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Hmm, sounds kind of familiar: old, white supremacist, Tea Party, angry, dillusional.

Must have been influenced by his mosque?

Seriously, how did this guy obtain a gun?

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Lo*. And his crony believe all the ills of the world are caused by the Tea Party.

I am not sure he could survive if the Tea Party disbanded......what group to blame for everything !


Lafayette Shooter Had Tea Party Page - The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/24/lafayette-shooter-had-tea-party-page.html?source=socialflow&via=twitter_page&template=cheat&account=thedailybeast&medium=twitter)


The shooter had a page on Tea Party Nation.

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Lafayette Shooter Had Tea Party Page - The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/24/lafayette-shooter-had-tea-party-page.html?source=socialflow&via=twitter_page&template=cheat&account=thedailybeast&medium=twitter)


The shooter had a page on Tea Party Nation.

???? The page referenced is blank ????

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Vewy, vewy quiet out there from all our Tea Party contributors!

If this shooter had been African-American or Muslim, the Tea Party would have been all over it like fleas on a hound.

Now, it turns out that one of their own was unbalanced (and unfair?) and we hear not a peep from them.

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vewy, vewy quiet out there from all our tea party contributors!

If this shooter had been african-american or muslim, the tea party would have been all over it like fleas on a hound.

Now, it turns out that one of their own was unbalanced (and unfair?) and we hear not a peep from them.

the page is blank

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These posts are ridiculous. Why is the tea party even brought up. This was obviously a mentally ill person who snapped. Period

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With their head tucked away and only a view through the belly button they have a very narrow scope, depth, vocabulary!

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With their head tucked away and only a view through the belly button they have a very narrow scope, depth, vocabulary!

Isn't it difficult to drink your Tea in that position? :boom:

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These posts are ridiculous. Why is the tea party even brought up. This was obviously a mentally ill person who snapped. Period

The Tea Party was brought up because this mentally ill person posted on Tea Party pages. He was also described on the national news as an angry man who could not accept social changes in the country.

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Our mental health system is deeply flawed with its treatment protocols, professionals and mental health laws. People in general haven't changed their perception of mental illness since the Dark Ages. This has resulted in the most vulnerable segment of our society being completely ignored .

Liberal policies placed these people on the streets without a support system. State agencies are inept and too bureaucratic. Families are prevented legally to assist their loved ones and kept at bay

The public's perception of mental illness goes back to the Dark Ages. Believe or don't believe it but our illegal drug loving society plays a role in the worsening of these mental health diseases and that's why more and more pop up.

If you cry out for control forget gun control and begin controlling by putting pressure on politicians to enact severe drug trafficing laws tightening our border from the illicit drug trade, and enacting a mental health systems that allows family to interact with the mental health medical community in the same manner as any other illness. Mental health facilities are inept and abuses are found just as in old age facilities . Again stronger laws with responsible oversight of such facilities are needed. But none of this can be accomplished until and unless people change their perception of mental illness. As it stands now we have more people who care about the treatment of pets than we do human beings left vulnerable but these illnesses.

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Our mental health system is deeply flawed with its treatment protocols, professionals and mental health laws. People in general haven't changed their perception of mental illness since the Dark Ages. This has resulted in the most vulnerable segment of our society being completely ignored .

Liberal policies placed these people on the streets without a support system. State agencies are inept and too bureaucratic. Families are prevented legally to assist their loved ones and kept at bay

The public's perception of mental illness goes back to the Dark Ages. Believe or don't believe it but our illegal drug loving society plays a role in the worsening of these mental health diseases and that's why more and more pop up.

If you cry out for control forget gun control and begin controlling by putting pressure on politicians to enact severe drug trafficing laws tightening our border from the illicit drug trade, and enacting a mental health systems that allows family to interact with the mental health medical community in the same manner as any other illness. Mental health facilities are inept and abuses are found just as in old age facilities . Again stronger laws with responsible oversight of such facilities are needed. But none of this can be accomplished until and unless people change their perception of mental illness. As it stands now we have more people who care about the treatment of pets than we do human beings left vulnerable but these illnesses.

Very well said.

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The Tea Party was brought up because this mentally ill person posted on Tea Party pages. He was also described on the national news as an angry man who could not accept social changes in the country.

The man also belonged to the KKK. He was mentally ill and his family knew it. Mental illness is nothing to make fun of or bring a group such as the tea party into the conversation when that has absolutely nothing to do with his mental state. Is your mental OK these days? The only conversation this should bring to the forefront is the mentally ill should of course not be allowed to possess guns So where did this fall through the cracks and who is to blame for that??

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Why is it that the status (good, bad or indifferent) is always a forefront issue in gun ownwership/possession?

The discussions are too often influenced and limited by what the media, partisans, special interest groups and minorities make headlines about. And we ALL know how biased, self limiting and not neccessarily true that information is.

How about raising the bar and take into account all the other aspects in the life of a mentally ill person that are equally potential dangers, or more so, to themselves and the rest of the population?

Guns are a political hot button resulting in no gain for anybody and just a bunch of partisan arm waving hollering. Mental illness should not be!

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Why is it that the status (good, bad or indifferent) is always a forefront issue in gun ownwership/possession?

The discussions are too often influenced and limited by what the media, partisans, special interest groups and minorities make headlines about. And we ALL know how biased, self limiting and not neccessarily true that information is.

How about raising the bar and take into account all the other aspects in the life of a mentally ill person that are equally potential dangers, or more so, to themselves and the rest of the population?

Guns are a political hot button resulting in no gain for anybody and just a bunch of partisan arm waving hollering. Mental illness should not be!

Something positive you can do in this regard. Contact your Sumter, Marion, and Lake County library and law enforcement agencies and have them evaluate the currency, practicality, and range of materials on survivors/victims of crimes as well as even more importantly what they have about mental illness like links to various associations which help those with mental illness, anger management, PTSD, and other things important. Get the mental illness associations and survivor/victim assistance agencies and professionals involved in the dialog.

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Something positive you can do in this regard. Contact your Sumter, Marion, and Lake County library and law enforcement agencies and have them evaluate the currency, practicality, and range of materials on survivors/victims of crimes as well as even more importantly what they have about mental illness like links to various associations which help those with mental illness, anger management, PTSD, and other things important. Get the mental illness associations and survivor/victim assistance agencies and professionals involved in the dialog.

learn to ignore the hate mongers and radicals that would use mental health as a lever to pursue their position....and could care less about the mental health issue.

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Gee, the tea party people got mighty defensive didn't they. So unhappy about why anyone would think that the political environment which the killer endorsed has anything to do with his decision to act out. Of course it was the original poster who immediately jumped to the possibility that this killing was done by a Muslim because that is what he or she apparently thinks of first when there is a mass shooting. However, and correct me if I am wrong, except for targeted shootings of military personnel, have there been indiscriminate shootings in this country by a Muslim?

So next time there is a mass civilian shooting, think right wing gun nut first, not Muslim. You'll get some wrong but you'll improve your batting average.

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So, 59 year old white man, angry about social changes in the country, failed marriage, domestic violence, involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, not approved for CCL, and yet buys a gun legally at a pawn store?

Sounds like the next poster boy for the NRA campaign against gun control.

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So, 59 year old white man, angry about social changes in the country, failed marriage, domestic violence, involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, not approved for CCL, and yet buys a gun legally at a pawn store?

Sounds like the next poster boy for the NRA campaign against gun control.

And if he had killed several people and injured several more with his automobile while drunk or high on drugs, who's fault would it be?

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So, 59 year old white man, angry about social changes in the country, failed marriage, domestic violence, involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, not approved for CCL, and yet buys a gun legally at a pawn store?

Sounds like the next poster boy for the NRA campaign against gun control.

Nothing new here, typical talking liberal talking points - blame the NRA and not the individual.

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Nothing new here, typical talking liberal talking points - blame the NRA and not the individual.

Yup! Their response upon hearing the word gun is as creative as pulling the strings in a dolls neck!

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So, 59 year old white man, angry about social changes in the country, failed marriage, domestic violence, involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, not approved for CCL, and yet buys a gun legally at a pawn store?

Sounds like the next poster boy for the NRA campaign against gun control.

Dear Guest: a number of years ago a woman with mental illness drove her car to a pier pushed it over into the water with her three children in it drowning them. a few years later a woman who had a boyfriend that wasn't up to inheriting three kids along with his new girlfriend did exactly the same thing drowning her three kids so that she could keep her boy friend.

a person with mental illness can attach themselves to any group and or dislike any group it doesn't matter and their is no logic to it.

The person that is the subject of this thread could have easily obsessed about being a muslim, a jew, a vigilante that doesn't matter what mattered is he needed treatment because the brain's filtering system is not working

The guy from Colorado who shoot all of those people in the theater was declared sane when he committed that crime. However what person in their right mind no matter how well planned plans to kill so many people?
Does a suicide bomber who plans out so carefully to wear and vest and walk into a public establishment sound rational to you?

And if one reflect honestly and objectively they would recall that rational people for irrational ideas or greed or revenge or power have killed gangsters, spouse who wants an insurance policy or has a new found lover and their spouse is in the way, etc. etc. etc.

Personal Best Regards:

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And if he had killed several people and injured several more with his automobile while drunk or high on drugs, who's fault would it be?


Typical Alinsky response of trying to deflect the question.

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Dear Guest: a number of years ago a woman with mental illness drove her car to a pier pushed it over into the water with her three children in it drowning them. a few years later a woman who had a boyfriend that wasn't up to inheriting three kids along with his new girlfriend did exactly the same thing drowning her three kids so that she could keep her boy friend.

a person with mental illness can attach themselves to any group and or dislike any group it doesn't matter and their is no logic to it.

The person that is the subject of this thread could have easily obsessed about being a muslim, a jew, a vigilante that doesn't matter what mattered is he needed treatment because the brain's filtering system is not working

The guy from Colorado who shoot all of those people in the theater was declared sane when he committed that crime. However what person in their right mind no matter how well planned plans to kill so many people?
Does a suicide bomber who plans out so carefully to wear and vest and walk into a public establishment sound rational to you?

And if one reflect honestly and objectively they would recall that rational people for irrational ideas or greed or revenge or power have killed gangsters, spouse who wants an insurance policy or has a new found lover and their spouse is in the way, etc. etc. etc.

Personal Best Regards:

...and your point is? MY point is even though this man, angry at the world, served with a restraining order, history of domestic abuse, had been involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, denied a CCL, that he was STILL able to LEGALLY buy a handgun from a pawnstore. Definitely, he has to be the poster boy for the NRA.

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Typical Alinsky response of trying to deflect the question.

Typical Alinsky response of avoiding answering a question.

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...and your point is? MY point is even though this man, angry at the world, served with a restraining order, history of domestic abuse, had been involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, denied a CCL, that he was STILL able to LEGALLY buy a handgun from a pawnstore. Definitely, he has to be the poster boy for the NRA.

Dear Guest:

My point is that you will not get a knee jerk reaction from me. What you will get is that all of the points that you make concerning this man fit the profile I offered in my explanation of an inapt mental health community, laws etc.

As to legally buying a gun bear in mind that despite the efforts of Homeland Security NSA etc terrorist still slip in and out and pointing to the fact that he bought a gun is not the issue. the issue is he was not given the proper care and/or confinement and treatment so that he would not believe that a gun was necessary.

Why is it people keep skipping over the issues of substance? a delusional woman used her car to drown three children, a delusional man shoots innocent people because. a delusional woman is fitted with a suicide vest and blows up herself and as many people as she can take with her. a delusional man arms himself with a machete and stands out on the street threatening people. a person with depression hangs himself or jumps off a bridge............................................ .......................

Personl Best Regards:

Personal Best Regards:

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There is one or more threads about the single person accidently killed in San Francisco by a person who benefited from lax enforcement of laws. The right wing noise machine screamed, and continues to scream that this one incident proves that Mexico is sending its criminals to our country. The GOP has in just a few days managed to draft and pass legislation to fix the problem, all over this one incident. A party that has been so unable to agree within its own caucus that it needs Pelosi to get most anything done.

Yet when we have, once again, a failure of our already too loose gun laws to do what they should do, where is the outcry from the GOP leaders to do something? From your favorite website for balanced information, Fox News...

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said Friday that "now is not the time" to discuss gun control, a position backed Saturday by rock musician and gun enthusiast Ted Nugent, who was in Lafayette for a sportsmen's exposition and came by to lay some flowers.

Asked whether Houser should have been allowed to purchase a gun, Nugent said "I think it's inappropriate to even approach that subject. I think it's all about prayers for the victims and the families."


Do you see an enormous difference in response? Can my GOP friends explain it to me? Are you so afraid the NRA will endorse someone even further to your right in the next primary if you dare say the words "gun control" in a positive way?

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We have gun control now but like immigration it is selectively and in some cases not enforced.

Just because someone who should not have a gun gets one does not automatically qualify for the cry for gun control....unless for political leverage of course.

It is unfortunate that when there is a gun involved far too many are so blinded tdo not see nor care about the real issue that may be the cause.

As I have said before when some see or hear the word gun their response is akin to pulling the string in a dolls neck....

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We have gun control now but like immigration it is selectively and in some cases not enforced.

Just because someone who should not have a gun gets one does not automatically qualify for the cry for gun control....unless for political leverage of course.

It is unfortunate that when there is a gun involved far too many are so blinded tdo not see nor care about the real issue that may be the cause.

As I have said before when some see or hear the word gun their response is akin to pulling the string in a dolls neck....

Very predictable and always the same and never changes.

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Guns don't kill people, and the moon is made of cream cheese. The civilized countries of the world who have reasonable gun controls in place don't have these occurrences. Our more civilized allies, in fact, think we're nuts. Check out:
An Australian comic on what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/an-australian-stand-up-comic-explains-what-u-s-gun-laws-look-like-to-the-rest-of-the-world/)

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Guns don't kill people, and the moon is made of cream cheese. The civilized countries of the world who have reasonable gun controls in place don't have these occurrences. Our more civilized allies, in fact, think we're nuts. Check out:
An Australian comic on what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/an-australian-stand-up-comic-explains-what-u-s-gun-laws-look-like-to-the-rest-of-the-world/)

Gee what do they think of the other 9 rights?

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Guns don't kill people, and the moon is made of cream cheese. The civilized countries of the world who have reasonable gun controls in place don't have these occurrences. Our more civilized allies, in fact, think we're nuts. Check out:
An Australian comic on what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/an-australian-stand-up-comic-explains-what-u-s-gun-laws-look-like-to-the-rest-of-the-world/)

What "reasonable gun controls" do you propose?