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joldnol
07-30-2015, 04:56 PM
It's not open yet but it consists of two large fenced in areas. Located off of moyers loop just past Belglade CC. The road is not open yet but it can be seen from the Golf Course.

Bogie Shooter
07-30-2015, 05:05 PM
Just wait.

raynan
07-30-2015, 05:25 PM
We drove down and saw it last Sunday. Really nice.

Sable99
07-30-2015, 06:47 PM
I adopted a bench earlier this week at the Atlas Dog Park! I did it by mail so I hope I like the spot they picked for us in the Small Dog Park. Hopefully, it will be in a nice spot for my 91 year old mother to watch our Shih Tzu puppy!

SouthOfTheBorder
07-30-2015, 07:43 PM
I adopted a bench earlier this week at the Atlas Dog Park! I did it by mail so I hope I like the spot they picked for us in the Small Dog Park. Hopefully, it will be in a nice spot for my 91 year old mother to watch our Shih Tzu puppy!

It looks like any spot for a bench will also be good for watching and interacting with your puppy. :thumbup:


This dog park also has a convenient, big parking lot. The whole area is located in a very picturest setting.

Don

Colts Fan
07-30-2015, 08:42 PM
Thank you RDOG3 and The Villages management!

Sable99
07-30-2015, 11:31 PM
It looks like any spot for a bench will also be good for watching and interacting with your puppy. :thumbup:


This dog park also has a convenient, big parking lot. The whole area is located in a very picturest setting.

Don

Thats good to hear! We had our choice of putting the bench in the large dog park, small dog park or the walk way. She asked that I put down my first two choices of where we wanted the bench, but it doesn't mean that this is where our bench will be. She called after they received my check and it sounded as if we got our first choice which was the small dog park. She is going to mail my receipt and I should know more after I get it!

bpinsly
07-31-2015, 07:55 AM
Can you tell me who you called for the bench?

Sable99
07-31-2015, 10:39 AM
Can you tell me who you called for the bench?

I called the VCDD at 352-753-4508 and they referred me to Erica. They are located at 984 Old Mill Run in TV. The bench is $675 which includes the bench, freight, concrete slab, your plaque and installation. Two additional plaques can be added for $50 for each plaque. Erica was very helpful. You can see the benches on the VCDD website -- Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org).

Thanks to SusanG on TOTV for giving me the information!

LianaB
07-31-2015, 10:41 AM
When is it scheduled to be open?

Sable99
07-31-2015, 12:54 PM
Thats good to hear! We had our choice of putting the bench in the large dog park, small dog park or the walk way. She asked that I put down my first two choices of where we wanted the bench, but it doesn't mean that this is where our bench will be. She called after they received my check and it sounded as if we got our first choice which was the small dog park. She is going to mail my receipt and I should know more after I get it!

The receipt came in today's mail. Our bench will be #590 in the Small Dog Park and should be installed within 4-6 months! The park is only a few blocks from our home in The Village of Charlotte! Now, if I could only talk my mother into moving to TV!

JerryLBell
07-31-2015, 01:01 PM
This is great to hear! My wife and I bought a house down in the south end of TV and were worried we'd have to golf car the dog quite a ways to get the nearest dog park. Worry no more!

Now if only a Costco, a Trader Joes and a "Mongolian Barbecue"-style restaurant would come to town before we move there, there'll be no reason for us to ever go down to Orlando. Well, other than outlet malls. Nothing's going to keep the wife away from those forever!

SouthOfTheBorder
07-31-2015, 06:02 PM
Thats good to hear! We had our choice of putting the bench in the large dog park, small dog park or the walk way. She asked that I put down my first two choices of where we wanted the bench, but it doesn't mean that this is where our bench will be. She called after they received my check and it sounded as if we got our first choice which was the small dog park. She is going to mail my receipt and I should know more after I get it!


During my run today, I took a picture of the new dog park, small dog section. There were quite a few benches already installed. They were not there earlier this week.

Anyway four of them, closest to the entrance had the �name� plates installed. The gate was locked so I didn�t try to get closeup photos. This photo, looking from the gate end shows those four benches and how they are located in the small dog section. The benches on the far end did not have name plates on them.

Hope this helps you.

Don

Sable99
07-31-2015, 08:29 PM
Thank you for taking the picture. The park looks really nice. I can't wait to see it in person. The best part is that the park isn't too far from our house! Thanks again!

Buffalo Jim
07-31-2015, 08:33 PM
Just wait.

In the oft used words in " Group Sessions " by Dr. Bob Hartley :

" Could you expand on that Mr. Shooter " ?

Wandatime
07-31-2015, 09:12 PM
In the oft used words in " Group Sessions " by Dr. Bob Hartley :

" Could you expand on that Mr. Shooter " ?

I'm with you . . . wait for what?

Bosoxfan
07-31-2015, 09:29 PM
I had heard the was going to be a covered area in the parks for shade.Does anyone know if this is true?
Looks beautiful thanks RDOG 3

Bitsee
07-31-2015, 10:27 PM
Wow, it's about time. Double Thank's to all involved for making it happen, it's beautiful ! And a Thank-You to Don for the great picture of our newest dog park, again, I have to say WOW !!!!

SouthOfTheBorder
08-01-2015, 08:30 AM
Wow, it's about time. Double Thank's to all involved for making it happen, it's beautiful ! And a Thank-You to Don for the great picture of our newest dog park, again, I have to say WOW !!!!

And that is just the section for small dogs There is an adjacent section, same size, for large dogs, a nice winding walkway from the parking area and a great view of Lake Deaton(?)/marshes.

It is a really nice, peaceful area.

Don

Topspinmo
08-01-2015, 10:42 AM
Very impressive dog park! Too bad there aren't about 6 more. Actually each district should have there own dog parks IMO. Ok dog haters blast away:popcorn:

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2015, 11:09 AM
In the oft used words in " Group Sessions " by Dr. Bob Hartley :

" Could you expand on that Mr. Shooter " ?

I'm with you . . . wait for what?

Do a search on dog parks. There are all kinds of posts finding fault with the other parks. I predict the whiners will complain about this one too. Just wait!

ScorpioSquared
08-01-2015, 06:30 PM
During my run today, I took a picture of the new dog park, small dog section. There were quite a few benches already installed. They were not there earlier this week.

Anyway four of them, closest to the entrance had the �name� plates installed. The gate was locked so I didn�t try to get closeup photos. This photo, looking from the gate end shows those four benches and how they are located in the small dog section. The benches on the far end did not have name plates on them.

Hope this helps you.

Don

Looks wonderful and thank you Don for your thoughtful picture share!:coolsmiley:

CFrance
08-01-2015, 06:34 PM
Do a search on dog parks. There are all kinds of posts finding fault with the other parks. I predict the whiners will complain about this one too. Just wait!
Hopefully that will not happen, because the residents had a lot of say in the development of this park.

Taltarzac725
08-02-2015, 07:48 AM
Do a search on dog parks. There are all kinds of posts finding fault with the other parks. I predict the whiners will complain about this one too. Just wait!

There are faults with various dog parks in the Villages. Too small, rules very lax in enforcement, and with the Paradise Park dog park it is still mostly dirt.

Doggie Doo Run Run is still the best in size, there is some enforcement of rules but they seem to go on a case-by-case basis taking into account the dogs' and people's personalities. They know the people and dogs that go there as they take a very active role in eventually getting to know them while also giving them space.

I will be interested in visiting the CR466A dog park though probably just to scope it out when returning to or from Brownwood.

Where is it in relationship to Brownwood?

Wandatime
08-02-2015, 08:02 AM
In the oft used words in " Group Sessions " by Dr. Bob Hartley :

" Could you expand on that Mr. Shooter " ?

Do a search on dog parks. There are all kinds of posts finding fault with the other parks. I predict the whiners will complain about this one too. Just wait!

Oh. Well, you could be right.

Buffalo Jim
08-03-2015, 07:07 AM
Oh. Well, you could be right.

Of course he is correct . So much so that you could not find anyone who has been here longer than a week who would be willing to bet against his prediction .

The only question is : How soon after the " official opening " of the new area will it take before someone begins the first Thread and Post complaining about one or a multiple of issues .

Now in " Vegas " or " London " one just might be able to create a series of betting opportunities such as :

1] Timing of the first complaint .
2] Subject of the first complaint .
3] Ultimate length of the initial Thread .
4] Subject of the first " We Need a New Rule " Thread or Post .
And so on .

Wavy Chips
08-03-2015, 05:52 PM
When is this park scheduled to open???

joldnol
08-03-2015, 06:26 PM
There are faults with various dog parks in the Villages. Too small, rules very lax in enforcement, and with the Paradise Park dog park it is still mostly dirt.



Where is it in relationship to Brownwood?

Brownwood is at Buena Vista and 44.....Atlas Park is to the west of Morse on the southern leg of Moyers Loop about a quarter of a mile beyond the Bellglade CC

Janet & Carl
08-03-2015, 08:37 PM
Thank you RDOG3 and The Villages management!

Since I am the secretary for the RDOG3 group, I will speak for all of the board members and the RDOG3 members with a huge Thank You. We all put our time and effort into this dog park. The main person to thank is Diane Ferguson. Without her dream, determination and devotion we would not have Atlas Dog Park. John Rohan needs to be thanked also. John took his time to meet with us on many occasions to get the dog park established. We are very happy and proud of Atlas Dog Park. Read the Rules and obtain them. Our dogs will be happy and our dog park will remain beautiful. Look for the Grand Opening of Atlas Dog Park soon.
Janet Hohenberger

Barefoot
08-03-2015, 09:45 PM
During my run today, I took a picture of the new dog park, small dog section.

Thanks for the picture, it looks really nice.

Very impressive dog park! Too bad there aren't about 6 more. Actually each district should have there own dog parks IMO. I agree that each District should have their own dog park.
However it's great that The Villages finally recognized the need for one nice large dog park for residents.
Too bad it couldn't be more central, instead of at the Southern boundary, but "don't look a gift horse in the mouth".
It's in a great location for new residents. I sincerely hope that it's thoroughly enjoyed for years to come!

Susan Schonfeld
08-10-2015, 04:54 AM
i miss the beautiful dog parks in south Florida. My dog will not run around by itself much so I have to walk along with her. Why don't they have a concrete walkway in the park area because I will not walk on the grass as you can imagine why. How come none of the dog parks up here have that??? Very disappointed that I have to walk on the grass - no way!

fergus6868
08-10-2015, 06:17 AM
There will be a combination opening of the Morse Preserve, The Rohan Rec Center and the Atlas dog park all on the same day.

Taltarzac725
08-10-2015, 06:53 AM
There will be a combination opening of the Morse Preserve, The Rohan Rec Center and the Atlas dog park all on the same day.

Which day is this?

CFrance
08-10-2015, 07:05 AM
i miss the beautiful dog parks in south Florida. My dog will not run around by itself much so I have to walk along with her. Why don't they have a concrete walkway in the park area because I will not walk on the grass as you can imagine why. How come none of the dog parks up here have that??? Very disappointed that I have to walk on the grass - no way!
Actually, I'm not aware why you won't walk on grass, but do you know about Okahumpka park? It's a park on 44 (Powell Rd to left onto 44 and a mile or so down on the right). It has three miles of walking trails, in and out of the sun, and also a small fenced dog park (which others say has burrs). The trails are paved. There's water, restrooms, and picnic tables in the shade.

Taltarzac725
08-10-2015, 07:11 AM
Actually, I'm not aware why you won't walk on grass, but do you know about Okahumpka park? It's a park on 44 (Powell Rd to left onto 44 and a mile or so down on the right). It has three miles of walking trails, in and out of the sun, and also a small fenced dog park (which others say has burrs). The trails are paved. There's water, restrooms, and picnic tables in the shade.

Lake Okahumpka Park | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/205/Lake-Okahumpka-Park) Here's a link.

Dog-friendly hikes in Florida | Florida Hikes! (http://floridahikes.com/hikes-with-dogs)

CFrance
08-10-2015, 07:14 AM
Lake Okahumpka Park | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/205/Lake-Okahumpka-Park) Here's a link.

Dog-friendly hikes in Florida | Florida Hikes! (http://floridahikes.com/hikes-with-dogs)
Thanks, Tal.

LuLu2005
08-10-2015, 07:28 AM
Still waiting on the "people park"...like dogs, not so much dog owners. Latest sighting at LSL Market Square of letting little doggies poop in the bushes while pretending to not see & leaving it (8/6); "walking" dogs (no leashes) at Eagle Preserve at Sunset Pointe gate with golf cart & leaving doggie poop behind (8/9).

JMPicchi
08-10-2015, 07:57 AM
The dog park located in Labelle is beautiful. Yet not open Oliver and I hope to be there for the grand opening when announced. I do hope there are plans for some tree planting to provide for some shade. Thank you for a lovely dog park!:doggie::coolsmiley:

Janet & Carl
08-10-2015, 08:07 AM
Thank you RDOG3 and The Villages management!


You are welcome and thank you. When you see Diane Ferguson (President of the RDOG3) please thank her for her Dream, Drive and Determination. This took over 3,000 signatures, bake sales, meeting with John Rohan and our monthly RDOG3 meetings at Eisenhower Regional Rec Ctr. We are all very proud of the Atlas Dog Park. Janet - Secretary RDOG3

FosterMomma
08-10-2015, 08:30 AM
We will be moving to The Villages in November and are very excited about the dog parks. We have two large 2 year old Golden Retrievers who are accustomed to a 22 acre, naturally landscaped park so I was worried that they would have to be on a leash all the time... this new one looks great!

Has anyone tried the park where you pay outside of the Villages?

Mleeja
08-10-2015, 08:32 AM
Of course he is correct . So much so that you could not find anyone who has been here longer than a week who would be willing to bet against his prediction .

The only question is : How soon after the " official opening " of the new area will it take before someone begins the first Thread and Post complaining about one or a multiple of issues .

Now https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5TDzJiK7AdQ Vegas " or " London " one just might be able to create a series of betting opportunities such as :

1] Timing of the first complaint .
2] Subject of the first complaint .
3] Ultimate length of the initial Thread .
4] Subject of the first " We Need a New Rule " Thread or Post .
And so on .

Too late! It has already began... :popcorn:

The photo looks great! The small dog area looks larger than the big dog area at the Mulberry Dog park. I know all of you "southerns" will enjoy. About 6:30 every evening our Lab starts hopping around becase she know it is time to go to the dog park!

FosterMomma
08-10-2015, 08:41 AM
We are new to The Villages and arriving in late October/early November from Canada. Our two young Golden Retrievers will be very grateful to have dog parks to visit as they have grown up in one here... I'm assuming the rules are similar and am looking forward to meeting wonderful people and their pups!

FosterMomma
08-10-2015, 08:46 AM
We are moving down to The Villages from Canada with out two young Goldens and are very grateful that there will be leash free parks where they can play!

llsartist
08-10-2015, 11:04 AM
When can we expect it to open?? Thanks

Benitacathcarb
08-10-2015, 11:29 AM
GREAT ! Looking forward to visiting it.

romanpaula
08-10-2015, 04:01 PM
I nvr go south of 466a dangerous area no thx.

TV MAN
08-10-2015, 04:04 PM
I just wonder why they chose the shorter part for large dogs and the longer part for small dogs. You would think that the large dogs could run better in the long park rather the a square box.
But glad it is going soon.

RickeyD
08-10-2015, 04:08 PM
I just wonder why they chose the shorter part for large dogs and the longer part for small dogs. You would think that the large dogs could run better in the long park rather the a square box.
But glad it is going soon.


Have you seen the new dog park ? Is one smaller then the other ?

TV MAN
08-10-2015, 04:12 PM
Yep saw it the other day. The one for large dogs is square while the one for small dogs is more rectangular. But the are both nice size with lots of benches, but it will be a while before the shade trees grow around the perimeter.

RickeyD
08-10-2015, 04:15 PM
Yep saw it the other day. The one for large dogs is square while the one for small dogs is more rectangular. But the are both nice size with lots of benches, but it will be a while before the shade trees grow around the perimeter.


Will check it out in a few weeks. Curious if both are the same square ft. I guess I'll be counting the fence sections...

Taltarzac725
08-10-2015, 06:29 PM
We will be moving to The Villages in November and are very excited about the dog parks. We have two large 2 year old Golden Retrievers who are accustomed to a 22 acre, naturally landscaped park so I was worried that they would have to be on a leash all the time... this new one looks great!

Has anyone tried the park where you pay outside of the Villages?

Doggie Doo Run Run is great. We have been going there since January 2007. It is up CR101 near the radio tower and kitty corner to the intersection of CR101 and CR104. This is north of Southern Trace Shopping Center on the right when travelling north.

It is $25 a month or $3 a day. $30 a month for two. $5 a day for two.

FosterMomma
08-10-2015, 07:19 PM
Thank you for the info... hopefully we will meet you there soon!

WhoDat
08-10-2015, 07:33 PM
I nvr go south of 466a dangerous area no thx.

"Dangerous"? How so?

jet10s
08-10-2015, 07:42 PM
ok I maybe in the minority -- but I do not like dogs and really resent the way all the dog owners in the villages just believe that everyone loves their dog as much as they do -- tired of sharing facilities and especially the town squares and restaurant patios with four-legged creatures and I would especially not want my district money to go for building any more dog parks

CFrance
08-10-2015, 07:42 PM
"Dangerous"? How so?
Obviously trolling.

SALYBOW
08-10-2015, 07:43 PM
I just wonder why they chose the shorter part for large dogs and the longer part for small dogs. You would think that the large dogs could run better in the long park rather the a square box.
But glad it is going soon.

We have way more small dogs.
:doggie::doggie::doggie::doggie:

CFrance
08-10-2015, 07:45 PM
ok I maybe in the minority -- but I do not like dogs and really resent the way all the dog owners in the villages just believe that everyone loves their dog as much as they do -- tired of sharing facilities and especially the town squares and restaurant patios with four-legged creatures and I would especially not want my district money to go for building any more dog parks
Too bad. Off topic, and nobody really cares. District money is used for the benefit of all, not just you.

CFrance
08-10-2015, 07:48 PM
We have way more small dogs.
:doggie::doggie::doggie::doggie:
That's probably true. They need less square footage for exercise, though. (Except maybe those lightning fast Jack Russells!)

It will be great for all sizes.

Bogie Shooter
08-10-2015, 08:36 PM
ok I maybe in the minority -- but I do not like dogs and really resent the way all the dog owners in the villages just believe that everyone loves their dog as much as they do -- tired of sharing facilities and especially the town squares and restaurant patios with four-legged creatures and I would especially not want my district money to go for building any more dog parks

With a join date of 2011, by now you must have read all the reasons why what you say doesn't make a lot of sense.

Barefoot
08-10-2015, 10:10 PM
We are new to The Villages and arriving in late October/early November from Canada. Our two young Golden Retrievers will be very grateful to have dog parks to visit as they have grown up in one here... I'm assuming the rules are similar and am looking forward to meeting wonderful people and their pups!

Don't forget the "Loonies and Toonies Club" for Canadians. Meetings start in November.

.... I do not like dogs and really resent the way all the dog owners in the villages just believe that everyone loves their dog as much as they do -- tired of sharing facilities and especially the town squares and restaurant patios with four-legged creatures and I would especially not want my district money to go for building any more dog parks

The Villages is a dog-friendly community.
Hopefully all people who move to The Villages will be aware that dogs are allowed in the Town Squares and some restaurant patios. Go Square One Burgers! :doggie:

RickeyD
08-11-2015, 05:54 AM
ok I maybe in the minority -- but I do not like dogs and really resent the way all the dog owners in the villages just believe that everyone loves their dog as much as they do -- tired of sharing facilities and especially the town squares and restaurant patios with four-legged creatures and I would especially not want my district money to go for building any more dog parks


...

graciegirl
08-11-2015, 06:42 AM
ok I maybe in the minority -- but I do not like dogs and really resent the way all the dog owners in the villages just believe that everyone loves their dog as much as they do -- tired of sharing facilities and especially the town squares and restaurant patios with four-legged creatures and I would especially not want my district money to go for building any more dog parks



jet, I just quickly read your past posts and they all seem so reasonable and you seem like such a nice person. I don't own a dog either but I like them very much. And I think they bring something important to a lot of seniors. I am not worried about their germs or their biting me.


Oh jet, How can you not feel all good about a little furry like this?


http://reallycuteanimals.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/20121229-golden-retriever-puppy_thumb.jpg

Bitsee
08-11-2015, 06:54 AM
WOOF ! I'll make sure my dog gives you a big sloppy kiss when he see's you at the square !

asianthree
08-11-2015, 07:33 AM
OK as a past owner of several dogs we at one time had a very large 140 pound Belgian Shepherd. (Trained to serve and protect). My father-in-law would never come to our house as long as we have owned that dog. He finally admitted he was attacked by a German Shepherd and basically had life-threatening issues. Did he hate all dogs, yes that I respect . So as long as we had a dog in our house he never came to our house, and that was OK. I do understand why some people do not like dogs and I have no issues with that. No matter how we think our pets are cute and cuddly there will be somebody who has a great fear.

graciegirl
08-11-2015, 07:44 AM
OK as a past owner of several dogs we at one time had a very large 140 pound Belgian Shepherd. (Trained to serve and protect). My father-in-law would never come to our house as long as we have owned that dog. He finally admitted he was attacked by a German Shepherd and basically had life-threatening issues. Did he hate all dogs, yes that I respect . So as long as we had a dog in our house he never came to our house, and that was OK. I do understand why some people do not like dogs and I have no issues with that. No matter how we think our pets are cute and cuddly there will be somebody who has a great fear.




That is very sad and very awful and very understandable .. However, those who have a reasonable fear, probably know that not many people have that fear, and those people deserve happiness too. We bow too much to the problems and expectations of the FEW in this day and age. We must always be compassionate, but not lose our sense of reason and proportion.

Janet & Carl
08-11-2015, 07:47 AM
I nvr go south of 466a dangerous area no thx.

Why do you think South of 466A is a dangerous area? If you never come to this area what justifies your statement? We have wonderful people living in beautiful villages down here. Janet

cmj1210
08-11-2015, 07:55 AM
I nvr go south of 466a dangerous area no thx.


Huh?

cmj1210
08-11-2015, 07:59 AM
Too bad. Off topic, and nobody really cares. District money is used for the benefit of all, not just you.


Agreed. [emoji106]🏻

jet10s
08-11-2015, 01:51 PM
I guess people really cannot grasp the idea or interpretation that what we spend on pets is merely a symptom of the larger problem brought on by the “relativism, narcissism, [and] consumerism” of our culture. When we personify our pets, when we devote and expend our best energy and attention on their care and attention, at the expense of other people, then we have gone too far. It becomes narcissism — a form of self-love — only “a caricature of love” — that involves satisfying our own desire to love and think ourselves loved. I have been a healthcare provider and nurse practitioner for over 40 years and my motto is obviously one which few of you seem to share -- First, people. Then, pets. From an interview given by Pope Francis (before he became Pope)(linked here), an excerpt of which (at around the 3:00 mark) is transcribed here, he says:

One interesting fact about this paganism….. the amount spent on non-necessities worldwide. Let’s put aside spending on necessary things such as food and medicine. Of those things that are not necessities, or superfluous things, the greatest amount is spent on pets. The most unnecessary spending is made on pets. Pets are idolized. And there’s the idolatry to buy, to rent, to have a feeling to give as I want, where I want, without needing a response, isn’t that true? It’s all a caricature of love. And the second largest amount of money is spent on cosmetology. Cosmetics. I don’t remember exactly the amounts worldwide, but there are millions and millions spent on these two things. Meanwhile the Pope is talking about children who are dying of hunger in underdeveloped continents like Africa, Asia and America. First come pets. And then if there is something left we throw it to the children…..”

graciegirl
08-11-2015, 03:18 PM
I guess people really cannot grasp the idea or interpretation that what we spend on pets is merely a symptom of the larger problem brought on by the “relativism, narcissism, [and] consumerism” of our culture. When we personify our pets, when we devote and expend our best energy and attention on their care and attention, at the expense of other people, then we have gone too far. It becomes narcissism — a form of self-love — only “a caricature of love” — that involves satisfying our own desire to love and think ourselves loved. I have been a healthcare provider and nurse practitioner for over 40 years and my motto is obviously one which few of you seem to share -- First, people. Then, pets. From an interview given by Pope Francis (before he became Pope)(linked here), an excerpt of which (at around the 3:00 mark) is transcribed here, he says:

One interesting fact about this paganism….. the amount spent on non-necessities worldwide. Let’s put aside spending on necessary things such as food and medicine. Of those things that are not necessities, or superfluous things, the greatest amount is spent on pets. The most unnecessary spending is made on pets. Pets are idolized. And there’s the idolatry to buy, to rent, to have a feeling to give as I want, where I want, without needing a response, isn’t that true? It’s all a caricature of love. And the second largest amount of money is spent on cosmetology. Cosmetics. I don’t remember exactly the amounts worldwide, but there are millions and millions spent on these two things. Meanwhile the Pope is talking about children who are dying of hunger in underdeveloped continents like Africa, Asia and America. First come pets. And then if there is something left we throw it to the children…..”



That may be true of some people, even a lot of people, but not all people. I find the comfort of a small animal for older folks a good thing. Again what we spend our money on is a matter of our personal values. I think you may be painting with too broad a brush on this.


There are many who carefully share their not much with their pets and many who spend a lot on their pets ...very much the way they did their children. But it is their money to spend and unless they stole it, we have no right to say what they do with it.

keithwand
08-11-2015, 04:27 PM
I guess people really cannot grasp the idea or interpretation that what we spend on pets is merely a symptom of the larger problem brought on by the �relativism, narcissism, [and] consumerism� of our culture. When we personify our pets, when we devote and expend our best energy and attention on their care and attention, at the expense of other people, then we have gone too far. It becomes narcissism � a form of self-love � only �a caricature of love� � that involves satisfying our own desire to love and think ourselves loved. I have been a healthcare provider and nurse practitioner for over 40 years and my motto is obviously one which few of you seem to share -- First, people. Then, pets. From an interview given by Pope Francis (before he became Pope)(linked here), an excerpt of which (at around the 3:00 mark) is transcribed here, he says:

One interesting fact about this paganism�.. the amount spent on non-necessities worldwide. Let�s put aside spending on necessary things such as food and medicine. Of those things that are not necessities, or superfluous things, the greatest amount is spent on pets. The most unnecessary spending is made on pets. Pets are idolized. And there�s the idolatry to buy, to rent, to have a feeling to give as I want, where I want, without needing a response, isn�t that true? It�s all a caricature of love. And the second largest amount of money is spent on cosmetology. Cosmetics. I don�t remember exactly the amounts worldwide, but there are millions and millions spent on these two things. Meanwhile the Pope is talking about children who are dying of hunger in underdeveloped continents like Africa, Asia and America. First come pets. And then if there is something left we throw it to the children�..�

You must not have any pets so you just can't relate.
I'm sorry.

Polar Bear
08-11-2015, 04:44 PM
I guess people really cannot grasp the idea or interpretation that what we spend on pets is merely a symptom of the larger problem brought on by the �relativism, narcissism, [and] consumerism� of our culture...

Wow. How supercilious and sad.

ScorpioSquared
08-11-2015, 04:57 PM
That is very sad and very awful and very understandable .. However, those who have a reasonable fear, probably know that not many people have that fear, and those people deserve happiness too. We bow too much to the problems and expectations of the FEW in this day and age. We must always be compassionate, but not lose our sense of reason and proportion.

I always enjoy your wise and compassionate remarks graciegirl. I am a fan. God Bless!:)

Beechie
08-11-2015, 05:40 PM
I guess people really cannot grasp the idea or interpretation that what we spend on pets is merely a symptom of the larger problem brought on by the �relativism, narcissism, [and] consumerism� of our culture. When we personify our pets, when we devote and expend our best energy and attention on their care and attention, at the expense of other people, then we have gone too far. It becomes narcissism � a form of self-love � only �a caricature of love� � that involves satisfying our own desire to love and think ourselves loved. I have been a healthcare provider and nurse practitioner for over 40 years and my motto is obviously one which few of you seem to share -- First, people. Then, pets. From an interview given by Pope Francis (before he became Pope)(linked here), an excerpt of which (at around the 3:00 mark) is transcribed here, he says:

One interesting fact about this paganism�.. the amount spent on non-necessities worldwide. Let�s put aside spending on necessary things such as food and medicine. Of those things that are not necessities, or superfluous things, the greatest amount is spent on pets. The most unnecessary spending is made on pets. Pets are idolized. And there�s the idolatry to buy, to rent, to have a feeling to give as I want, where I want, without needing a response, isn�t that true? It�s all a caricature of love. And the second largest amount of money is spent on cosmetology. Cosmetics. I don�t remember exactly the amounts worldwide, but there are millions and millions spent on these two things. Meanwhile the Pope is talking about children who are dying of hunger in underdeveloped continents like Africa, Asia and America. First come pets. And then if there is something left we throw it to the children�..�

"I find your comments offensive on both counts"

Barefoot
08-11-2015, 06:41 PM
I guess people really cannot grasp the idea or interpretation that what we spend on pets is merely a symptom of the larger problem brought on by the “relativism, narcissism, [and] consumerism” of our culture. When we personify our pets, when we devote and expend our best energy and attention on their care and attention, at the expense of other people, then we have gone too far. It becomes narcissism — a form of self-love — only “a caricature of love” — that involves satisfying our own desire to love and think ourselves loved. I have been a healthcare provider and nurse practitioner for over 40 years and my motto is obviously one which few of you seem to share -- First, people. Then, pets. From an interview given by Pope Francis (before he became Pope)(linked here), an excerpt of which (at around the 3:00 mark) is transcribed here, he says:

One interesting fact about this paganism….. the amount spent on non-necessities worldwide. Let’s put aside spending on necessary things such as food and medicine. Of those things that are not necessities, or superfluous things, the greatest amount is spent on pets. The most unnecessary spending is made on pets. Pets are idolized. And there’s the idolatry to buy, to rent, to have a feeling to give as I want, where I want, without needing a response, isn’t that true? It’s all a caricature of love. And the second largest amount of money is spent on cosmetology. Cosmetics. I don’t remember exactly the amounts worldwide, but there are millions and millions spent on these two things. Meanwhile the Pope is talking about children who are dying of hunger in underdeveloped continents like Africa, Asia and America. First come pets. And then if there is something left we throw it to the children…..”
You post on a thread about the new dog park to lecture us about the evils of spending our hard-earned money on pets?
Seriously?

GypsyBuddy
08-17-2015, 08:01 AM
The park is beautiful and big, but no one has mentioned that there is not one bit of shade in either dog run. No trees, maybe because it's all under power lines, but still, no shade? When I walk my dogs, my Welsh terrier has to move from one shady spot to another most months of the year, so we will not get to enjoy the park unless the sky is full of clouds or it's a chilly winter day.

Bonnevie
08-17-2015, 08:06 AM
The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.

Mahatma Gandhi

he said this despite the poverty in India.
Just returned from Europe. Dogs are taken everywhere and no one bats an eye.

RickeyD
08-17-2015, 09:39 AM
[QUOTE=Bonnevie;1100743


Just returned from Europe. Dogs are taken everywhere and no one bats an eye.[/QUOTE]


I love dogs, but they have their place. Anyway, I get perturbed when people compare Europe to the United States. When they learn to manage their continent properly then maybe I'll listen. Until then, there is nothing we can learn from Europe.

TV MAN
08-17-2015, 09:43 AM
I mentioned the shade issue in an eariler post.

CFrance
08-17-2015, 10:07 AM
I love dogs, but they have their place. Anyway, I get perturbed when people compare Europe to the United States. When they learn to manage their continent properly then maybe I'll listen. Until then, there is nothing we can learn from Europe.
Can't think what in the world that has to do with how they feel about dogs.

We are not an isolationist country. There are indeed things we can learn from Europe. I'll start with how to ensure the security of credit cards...

llsartist
08-17-2015, 10:20 AM
Nothing better than watching a sweet little puppy enjoying the outdoors. I have a Pekinese and a pug� they love to get out �I'm looking forward to this new dog park opening. Do you have any idea when it will open?

Bonnevie
08-17-2015, 10:28 AM
I love dogs, but they have their place. Anyway, I get perturbed when people compare Europe to the United States. When they learn to manage their continent properly then maybe I'll listen. Until then, there is nothing we can learn from Europe.

maybe that huge portions and excessive eating leading to sky high obesity rates isn't the best way to live....

RickeyD
08-18-2015, 08:32 AM
maybe that huge portions and excessive eating leading to sky high obesity rates isn't the best way to live....


It's called freedom. If you don't like looking at obese people, then move to France.

GolfGirl122
08-18-2015, 08:42 AM
Maybe I can donate a tree for the new dog park - next to one of the new benches. I think a European tree would be nice.

Bonnevie
08-18-2015, 08:53 AM
It's called freedom. If you don't like looking at obese people, then move to France.

I hope your replies are facetious. It's not looking at obese people and of course people have freedom of choice, though I doubt anyone would choose to be obese. it's their health issues. Obesity leads to diabetes, heart disease, the list is endless. and tax payers pay for it via Medicare, Medicaid. Now children are becoming obese. It's a health issue.

Please stop throwing barbs at me.

RickeyD
08-18-2015, 09:04 AM
I hope your replies are facetious. It's not looking at obese people and of course people have freedom of choice, though I doubt anyone would choose to be obese. it's their health issues. Obesity leads to diabetes, heart disease, the list is endless. and tax payers pay for it via Medicare, Medicaid. Now children are becoming obese. It's a health issue.



Please stop throwing barbs at me.


Then don't throw barbs at my country.

RickeyD
08-18-2015, 09:05 AM
Maybe I can donate a tree for the new dog park - next to one of the new benches. I think a European tree would be nice.


As long as it's not invasive, I welcome it as well.

Bonnevie
08-18-2015, 10:51 AM
Then don't throw barbs at my country.

I said in France that people are more laid back about dogs. I said their obesity rate is lower. Show me where I disparaged the United States. I consider myself blessed to have been born here. I don't want to live anywhere else. I don't think I said anything to indicate otherwise. You keep directing "love it or leave it" remarks to me when I don't think it's indicated or called for.

so I ask you again, please stop it.

RickeyD
08-19-2015, 06:47 AM
I said in France that people are more laid back about dogs. I said their obesity rate is lower. Show me where I disparaged the United States. I consider myself blessed to have been born here. I don't want to live anywhere else. I don't think I said anything to indicate otherwise. You keep directing "love it or leave it" remarks to me when I don't think it's indicated or called for.



so I ask you again, please stop it.


I'm sure you're blessed to be born here, after all this country is the greatest country that civilized man has ever created. You alluded to the fact that people in Europe are not overweight but Americans are. I don't disagree with you. What I don't like is the tone so generally used by many Americans in that we are somehow inferior or ignorant or stupid in many ways to the lifestyles lead by Europeans perceived by many Americans as superior to ours. I say we have nothing we can learn from the Europeans. If we have a lesson to learn we'll learn it on our own when we want and at the pace we want. I am not disparaging you specifically. Simply disenchanted with the general feeling of many that we are not different from the rest of the world, just an extension of the global oneness that many want to head into. I say, we among all others on this planet are exceptional and as such have saved others from global dominated tyranny and remain free from such tyranny because we are different and we think for ourselves.

CFrance
08-19-2015, 06:56 AM
This is a thread about dog parks.

RickeyD
08-19-2015, 07:03 AM
This is a thread about dog parks.


I'm done

graciegirl
08-19-2015, 07:15 AM
I said in France that people are more laid back about dogs. I said their obesity rate is lower. Show me where I disparaged the United States. I consider myself blessed to have been born here. I don't want to live anywhere else. I don't think I said anything to indicate otherwise. You keep directing "love it or leave it" remarks to me when I don't think it's indicated or called for.

so I ask you again, please stop it.


I like the way you handle an escalating situation. You act calm and you speak intelligently. You have my respect.

graciegirl
08-19-2015, 07:27 AM
I'm sure you're blessed to be born here, after all this country is the greatest country that civilized man has ever created. You alluded to the fact that people in Europe are not overweight but Americans are. I don't disagree with you. What I don't like is the tone so generally used by many Americans in that we are somehow inferior or ignorant or stupid in many ways to the lifestyles lead by Europeans perceived by many Americans as superior to ours. I say we have nothing we can learn from the Europeans. If we have a lesson to learn we'll learn it on our own when we want and at the pace we want. I am not disparaging you specifically. Simply disenchanted with the general feeling of many that we are not different from the rest of the world, just an extension of the global oneness that many want to head into. I say, we among all others on this planet are exceptional and as such have saved others from global dominated tyranny and remain free from such tyranny because we are different and we think for ourselves.



Beaucoup d'entre nous ont ascendance europ�enne, beaucoup aussi r�cente que nos grands-parents. Beaucoup ont appris l'�thique du travail et la fa�on de g�rer avec soin l'argent et aller � l'�glise et �tre de bons parents d'eux. Nous ne pouvons pas oublier combien nous sommes redevables � ce patrimoine. Je ne comprends pas ce n�gativisme du tout.

Taltarzac725
08-19-2015, 07:53 AM
When does the new dog park open?

Taltarzac725
08-19-2015, 07:58 AM
During my run today, I took a picture of the new dog park, small dog section. There were quite a few benches already installed. They were not there earlier this week.

Anyway four of them, closest to the entrance had the “name” plates installed. The gate was locked so I didn’t try to get closeup photos. This photo, looking from the gate end shows those four benches and how they are located in the small dog section. The benches on the far end did not have name plates on them.

Hope this helps you.

Don

Thanks for the picture. https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1093911-post13.html

Taltarzac725
08-19-2015, 08:04 AM
Since I am the secretary for the RDOG3 group, I will speak for all of the board members and the RDOG3 members with a huge Thank You. We all put our time and effort into this dog park. The main person to thank is Diane Ferguson. Without her dream, determination and devotion we would not have Atlas Dog Park. John Rohan needs to be thanked also. John took his time to meet with us on many occasions to get the dog park established. We are very happy and proud of Atlas Dog Park. Read the Rules and obtain them. Our dogs will be happy and our dog park will remain beautiful. Look for the Grand Opening of Atlas Dog Park soon.
Janet Hohenberger

Thanks. It looks like a very nice dog park.

FosterMomma
08-19-2015, 09:25 AM
Love your Golden CFrance
!

CFrance
08-19-2015, 09:48 AM
Love your Golden CFrance
!
Thanks!

Taltarzac725
08-19-2015, 10:53 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8488253,-81.9653249,15z

Map of the area around the Atlas Canine Recreation Center.

RickeyD
08-19-2015, 11:39 AM
Beaucoup d'entre nous ont ascendance europ�enne, beaucoup aussi r�cente que nos grands-parents. Beaucoup ont appris l'�thique du travail et la fa�on de g�rer avec soin l'argent et aller � l'�glise et �tre de bons parents d'eux. Nous ne pouvons pas oublier combien nous sommes redevables � ce patrimoine. Je ne comprends pas ce n�gativisme du tout.


I have no idea why you think I'm being negative. I simply don't believe in looking back. My ancestors came from oppressive countries in Europe and the heritage they left behind was replaced with the American heritage that was passed onto me. My surname is European, but I am an American first. That dear Gracie is not being negative, it's called Americanism.

F16 1UB
08-19-2015, 01:29 PM
Did you know the bass are biting at John's Lake....but they're not biting at Griffin.... And you ask what the hell this has to do with a new dog park? Absolutely nothing....and all I'm reading is :blahblahblah: gibberish....WHEN DOES THE PARK OPEN?

Clowning0501
08-19-2015, 02:30 PM
Since I am the secretary for the RDOG3 group, I will speak for all of the board members and the RDOG3 members with a huge Thank You. We all put our time and effort into this dog park. The main person to thank is Diane Ferguson. Without her dream, determination and devotion we would not have Atlas Dog Park. John Rohan needs to be thanked also. John took his time to meet with us on many occasions to get the dog park established. We are very happy and proud of Atlas Dog Park. Read the Rules and obtain them. Our dogs will be happy and our dog park will remain beautiful. Look for the Grand Opening of Atlas Dog Park soon.
Janet Hohenberger

Thanks. It looks like a very nice dog park.
I am excited for the new dog park. I've heard so much positive feedback. Will be keeping an eye open for the grand opening for sure!

Kazmi
08-19-2015, 09:08 PM
I am excited for the new dog park. I've heard so much positive feedback. Will be keeping an eye open for the grand opening for sure!

I've read somewhere (sorry can't remember exactly where-I think districtgov.org) that the opening will be the same time as Rohan rec center which is some time early fall. Since we are building in this area I'm reading as much as I can to find out about what is going on. We are pretty excited about the Atlas dog park too! and so is our dog!

Bosoxfan
08-19-2015, 09:21 PM
:mademyday:Did you know the bass are biting at John's Lake....but they're not biting at Griffin.... And you ask what the hell this has to do with a new dog park? Absolutely nothing....and all I'm reading is :blahblahblah: gibberish....WHEN DOES THE PARK OPEN?

CFrance
08-20-2015, 09:38 PM
Did you know the bass are biting at John's Lake....but they're not biting at Griffin.... And you ask what the hell this has to do with a new dog park? Absolutely nothing....and all I'm reading is :blahblahblah: gibberish....WHEN DOES THE PARK OPEN?
Why don't you call somebody and ask?

Taltarzac725
08-21-2015, 06:39 AM
Why don't you call somebody and ask?

Dog Parks (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/Recreation/dogparks.aspx)

This should get you to the appropriate phone number or maybe even e-mail address. I sent the Villages Recreation Department an e-mail about this at 7:45 AM, 8/21/2015. I will see if I get an answer. I always like trying to get things in writing rather than via phone.

Markam
08-21-2015, 03:23 PM
While not in The Villages, I've passed a dog park in Wildwood that never seems to have any use. Shady, fenced and good sized. Don't know any other details. Just west of Powell on Huey.

cathyh1960
10-10-2015, 02:03 PM
we are new to the area. where would I find this newest dog park and that nature walk out over the marsh? thanks for any address or details. Cathy - san Diego

golfing eagles
10-10-2015, 02:12 PM
we are new to the area. where would I find this newest dog park and that nature walk out over the marsh? thanks for any address or details. Cathy - san Diego

see post #1
can find it any of TV maps (Moyers Loop and Belle Glade, not the new dog park)

Taltarzac725
10-12-2015, 09:24 PM
...and it is quite an attractive looking space for dogs and dog walkers. Quite a distance from Lynnhaven but well worth the trip every so often.

It is East past Belle Glade Recreation Center on Moyers Loop off of Morse Blvd. About 2 miles or thereabouts South of the Fire Station 44.