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Guest
08-07-2015, 07:06 AM
Last night on the GOP candidate debate, Donald Trump said he would not pledge not to run as a Third Party candidate. In fact, upon further questioning by the moderators, he basically said he WOULD run as a Third Party.

It seems to be the general belief this would guarantee the victory for Hillary.

What can be done so this doesn't happen?

Guest
08-07-2015, 07:08 AM
Last night on the GOP candidate debate, Donald Trump said he would not pledge not to run as a Third Party candidate. In fact, upon further questioning by the moderators, he basically said he WOULD run as a Third Party.

It seems to be the general belief this would guarantee the victory for Hillary.

What can be done so this doesn't happen?

You are misquoting him...no, not right you are not quoting him at all.

He said he would support the Republican candidate if he has respect for that candidate. Note, he later in an exchange said how much he respects Jeb Bush which was telling.

No third party, but threatening it keeps him viable and he knows it.

Guest
08-07-2015, 07:15 AM
It could be as simple as if he gets the nomination there is no issue.
If he does not AND he does run as a third party, do not vote for the third party.....unless you want the democratic candidate to win.

I suspect it ill not happen and if it does I would hope those in favor of Trump would understand the would be handing the election to the democratic candidate. Could/would they follow Trump to the extent of throwing the election? I would like to think not.

Guest
08-07-2015, 07:27 AM
Many folks love to hate Trump. Maybe that is his plan, to draw all the ire from the liberals away from the other candidates, so that one of them can "cleanly" waltz into the general election. Just one of many theories. With so many candidates, it spreads liberal resources pretty thin, trying to produce dirt. That's their normal MO, so what's wrong with the GOP having a plan or tactic?

Guest
08-07-2015, 01:17 PM
As Rubio so accurately stated last night...the republicans have 17 candiates and the democrats do not even have one!!!:clap2:

Guest
08-07-2015, 02:43 PM
As Rubio so accurately stated last night...the republicans have 17 candiates and the democrats do not even have one!!!:clap2:

...and the "not even one Democrat candidate" can beat any of the 17 Republican clowns. :clap2: :1rotfl: :MOJE_whot: :boom:

Guest
08-07-2015, 02:55 PM
Is it possible the Clinton Foundation is funding Trump's run so he can run as a third party candidate and guarantee Hillary the election?

Guest
08-07-2015, 04:02 PM
Is it possible the Clinton Foundation is funding Trump's run so he can run as a third party candidate and guarantee Hillary the election?

Why would he need the money?

Guest
08-07-2015, 04:20 PM
Is it possible the Clinton Foundation is funding Trump's run so he can run as a third party candidate and guarantee Hillary the election?

Even if he did for whatever reason for the premise to work one assumes that all who would vote for Trump as a republican would lemming-like follow him as an independent.

That would further assume those doing so would not care if Clinton wins as a result.

I just don't see the American voter (most of them) being that stupid!

We all know the thought of that happening must be erotic-like for the Clinton gang and gets them breathing hard.

Guest
08-07-2015, 04:31 PM
Even if he did for whatever reason for the premise to work one assumes that all who would vote for Trump as a republican would lemming-like follow him as an independent.

That would further assume those doing so would not care if Clinton wins as a result.

I just don't see the American voter (most of them) being that stupid!

We all know the thought of that happening must be erotic-like for the Clinton gang and gets them breathing hard.

Obama for two terms. Enough said.

Guest
08-08-2015, 09:18 AM
Donald Trump disinvited from conservative gathering over Megyn Kelly comments | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-disinvited-conservative-gathering-over-megyn-kelly-comments?cid=sm_tw_msnbc)


Donald Trump has been disinvited to the Redstate Gathering today in Atlanta by Eric Ericson because of comments he made when he called in to CNN last night about Megyn Kelly. Trump was supposed to be the final speaker and attend a big party at the end of the event.

Trump's spokesman said that he would appear at another location today, and Ericson has invited Megyn Kelly to appear in Trump's place.

Is this stirring of the hornet's nest going to be enough to send Trump off on a third party run? Stay tuned.

Guest
08-08-2015, 09:23 AM
Donald Trump disinvited from conservative gathering over Megyn Kelly comments | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-disinvited-conservative-gathering-over-megyn-kelly-comments?cid=sm_tw_msnbc)


Donald Trump has been disinvited to the Redstate Gathering today in Atlanta by Eric Ericson because of comments he made when he called in to CNN last night about Megyn Kelly. Trump was supposed to be the final speaker and attend a big party at the end of the event.

Trump's spokesman said that he would appear at another location today, and Ericson has invited Megyn Kelly to appear in Trump's place.

Is this stirring of the hornet's nest going to be enough to send Trump off on a third party run? Stay tuned.

Will stay tuned, but there is no way that Trump runs as a third party candidate as much as it seems from what I am hearing and reading that the Democrats are praying for that.

THAT, a Trump third party run, is at this point, the only chance for the Democrats.

Now all of this can change but Trump certainly is acting more like a Democrat than a Republican.

I am looking forward to the next few polls after his fiasco in the debate and last night.

He does not understand quite that the POLLS do not necessarily convert to votes, ESPECIALLY at this point. These are americans showing their discontent and this is a perfect opportunity to do that.

Guest
08-08-2015, 10:06 AM
To say that if Trump decided to go as a third party automatically converts to a win for democrats requires a very big assumption....that all those who support Trump would blindly follow and vote for him as an independent.

That is just simply not a good assumption.
It implies that those who would vote for Trump do not care if the result is a win for the democrats.

A cooment made by Trump in the debates that has not been addressed at least on any post reviews that I have listened to or read was when he said......being in the lead is leverage.
Now why has this comment not been explored?

To me it is much more important than the celebrity pi$$ing contest going on between him and Meagan. Both of which are doing nothing more than serving their ego and nothing to do with the needs of the American people.

Guest
08-08-2015, 10:33 AM
If this were to come down to Hillary vs Carly I would vote Trump.

Guest
08-08-2015, 12:03 PM
If this were to come down to Hillary vs Carly I would vote Trump.

Why? Why not just vote for Hillary?

Guest
08-08-2015, 01:38 PM
If this were to come down to Hillary vs Carly I would vote Trump.

Then by default you would be casting a potential win for Clinton.
Why would you do that?
Do you really think Clinton is the better candidate? And why?

Are you saying you would swing all the way from wanting to vote for someone other than the current crony establishment (Trump) to the other end of the spectrum of a continuation of Obama agenda and even worse?

It would be helpful for you to explain why you would do that.

Fiorina is hands down a far, FAR more Trump like choice than voting for Clinton and democratic crony politics as usual!

Guest
08-08-2015, 01:49 PM
If this were to come down to Hillary vs Carly I would vote Trump.

As they say in the media, Trump has tapped into the voters disatisfaction and has made a splash, but nobody wants him to be President.

No matter what you think Washington and congress is like, he would simply alienate anyone who disagreed with him....do we not have a President like that at present.....he has no ability, despite his claims of getting things done, to work in a world of laws, etc. As President you at least must have a fleeting knowledge of something and cannot lead by platitudes.

Imagine him some evening explaining to the american people why he did this or that and telling you ....dont worry about it, I am always right.

No, and I will be very interested in the next few polls.

He has to know that POLLS are that...POLLS. They are not real voters and voters who are involved with these polls know that.

Only question on Trump is how he leaves. He does not take defeat very well as we know.

Guest
08-08-2015, 01:58 PM
I am sure that Trump realizes that if he screws up the election, that he will undoubtedly be putting a target on his back. He may have an ego rivaling Obama's but he is not stupid. If he is as smart as he thinks he is, then he will eventually bow out of the race.

From what I have seen, he puts out more dirty slurs toward the GOP than the Dems. Makes one wonder exactly whose side he is on. Of course, his own.

Guest
08-08-2015, 02:57 PM
Trump said he would consider running as an Independent if the Republican establishment did not respect him. From what I have heard on FOX, Trump is getting no respect right now. He also was disinvited to a Red State meeting and Megan Kelly put in his place. That was a huge "dissing" of The Donald. He does not forget nor does he forgive!

I feel that Trump knows exactly how it may play out. He gets "dissed" some more by Republicans and he forms the third party. Trump runs, the Democrat (Hillary) runs, the Republican runs (?) and Hillary wins. Trump gets special access to the White House whenever he wants and Hillary will make it seem like she is asking Trump for advice on domestic and economic policy.

It could happen!

Guest
08-08-2015, 03:24 PM
Trump ended a call today with this memo to fellow GOPer's "I have a lot of money and I'm not getting out. I am going to win".

Guest
08-08-2015, 03:40 PM
Trump messes this up and he will have half the population of the country against him. Makes him an easy target. If he is the business man he calls himself, he has undoubtedly broken laws before, so he would have to be double careful in the future, not to slip. But, lets wait and see. The folks over at FOX have treated him pretty good, over all. He speaks on FOX every Monday morning. Could be a carefully orchestrated plot to throw the liberals off their game. Who says that the DEMs have all the political expertise?

Guest
08-09-2015, 09:27 AM
One thing is certain....whether intended or not Trump has become a lightning rod attracting all the attention of the opposition, the media and the special interest folks.

Hence giving the rest of the field an opportunity to campaign without as much dirt digging as would usually be taking place.

And even the Trump/Meagan celebrity side show serves the same purpose. It also demonstrates that no matter how wealthy or educated or positioned, the school yard, OH YEAH, mentality in all it's ugly stupidity rises front and center.

Guest
08-09-2015, 10:38 AM
Was Trump sabotaged by big Republican donors/GOP Establishment at Thursday's debate? Its clear that non of the other nine candidates went after Trump and in my vie to their credit. Did Fox News correspondents Kelly, Baier and Wallace show a disdain for Trump and as such followed their orders from GOP donors/Establishment to bury him then and now? Did Fox hit below the belt with some of their questions directed at Trump? Was Eric Erickson's dis-invite to Trump over alleged mistreatment of Kelly to Red State on Saturday a continuation of the effort by GOP to shun Trump? And will it hurt Trump? or GOP?

Trump he did not get rich by not playing close to the vest and hedging his bets. And quite frankly there is nothing he said that surprised me. In fact I understan that he wants the GOP Establisment's blessing and he wants the Republican nomination.

He said if he did not get the GOP nomination and liked the GOP nominee he would support that person but if he could not support the GOP nominee he would go 3rd party. So is his concern sincere? Does Trump's claim that he loves America real or is it Political fodder? We don;t know and that is the rub. Here are some thoughts for discussion:

Is Trump the trojan horse for Hillary?

Is he out for Trump alone and he doesn't care which party affiliation gets him to the White House?

Is he playing a huge financial game posturing and positioning himself to capitalize on the next administration by staking out strategic positions now domestically and foreign and using the presidential candidacy for to ensure gets to inner circles?

I like Megan Kelly, Bret Baier but I believe they hit below the belt when it came to Donald Trump with what I considered tabloid journalism. if they want Trump they knew he is only about attitude and not substance and they could have challenged him on more specificity thus demonstrating to the voter that while he is entertaining he would not be effective in the White House

Meggan Kelly was a favorite but she did disappoint me during this debate.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
08-09-2015, 04:33 PM
Was Trump sabotaged by big Republican donors/GOP Establishment at Thursday's debate? Its clear that non of the other nine candidates went after Trump and in my vie to their credit. Did Fox News correspondents Kelly, Baier and Wallace show a disdain for Trump and as such followed their orders from GOP donors/Establishment to bury him then and now? Did Fox hit below the belt with some of their questions directed at Trump? Was Eric Erickson's dis-invite to Trump over alleged mistreatment of Kelly to Red State on Saturday a continuation of the effort by GOP to shun Trump? And will it hurt Trump? or GOP?

Trump he did not get rich by not playing close to the vest and hedging his bets. And quite frankly there is nothing he said that surprised me. In fact I understan that he wants the GOP Establisment's blessing and he wants the Republican nomination.

He said if he did not get the GOP nomination and liked the GOP nominee he would support that person but if he could not support the GOP nominee he would go 3rd party. So is his concern sincere? Does Trump's claim that he loves America real or is it Political fodder? We don;t know and that is the rub. Here are some thoughts for discussion:

Is Trump the trojan horse for Hillary?

Is he out for Trump alone and he doesn't care which party affiliation gets him to the White House?

Is he playing a huge financial game posturing and positioning himself to capitalize on the next administration by staking out strategic positions now domestically and foreign and using the presidential candidacy for to ensure gets to inner circles?

I like Megan Kelly, Bret Baier but I believe they hit below the belt when it came to Donald Trump with what I considered tabloid journalism. if they want Trump they knew he is only about attitude and not substance and they could have challenged him on more specificity thus demonstrating to the voter that while he is entertaining he would not be effective in the White House

Meggan Kelly was a favorite but she did disappoint me during this debate.

Personal Best Regards:

In my opinion, if Trump was offended by Megan's questioning, then he's in the wrong place. They asked the same type of questions from each of the candidates. They all got the weak spot questions. They better get used to it now, before Hillary's folks start in on them. I believe the media is blowing Megan's questioning out of proportion. FOX did an outstanding job on the debates.

Guest
08-09-2015, 05:53 PM
I am not always a fan of Fox News, but I thought they ran an excellent debate.

Guest
08-10-2015, 05:58 AM
I am not always a fan of Fox News, but I thought they ran an excellent debate.

:agree:

Guest
08-10-2015, 08:49 AM
Donald Trump Considering Taking Pledge Not to Run as Third-Party Candidate - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-taking-pledge-run-party/story?id=32987615)


According to published reports today, Donald Trump is rethinking his position on taking the pledge to run as a third party candidate. It seems the RNC may restrict future debates to only those candidates that have taken the pledge.

Guest
08-10-2015, 12:43 PM
Donald Trump Considering Taking Pledge Not to Run as Third-Party Candidate - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-taking-pledge-run-party/story?id=32987615)


According to published reports today, Donald Trump is rethinking his position on taking the pledge to run as a third party candidate. It seems the RNC may restrict future debates to only those candidates that have taken the pledge.

Would anyone trust him now? He flip-flops as much as Obama. And I thought Obama had the franchise on that.

Guest
08-10-2015, 01:26 PM
Would anyone trust him now? He flip-flops as much as Obama. And I thought Obama had the franchise on that.

No, Mitt Romney is the king of flip-flops.

That was one on his attributes that cost him the election in 2012.

Guest
08-10-2015, 01:47 PM
No, Mitt Romney is the king of flip-flops.

That was one on his attributes that cost him the election in 2012.

Not really. What cost him the election was the black and independent vote. His flip-flops are a liberal exaggeration to cover for Obama's inept performance.

Guest
08-10-2015, 02:00 PM
Would anyone trust him now? He flip-flops as much as Obama. And I thought Obama had the franchise on that.

The RNC will probably trust him if he takes the pledge. As Donald Trump said on Morning Joe today, "twenty million viewers didn't tune in to the first debate to watch Jeb Bush". The RNC knows what side its bread is buttered on.

Guest
08-10-2015, 03:38 PM
The RNC will probably trust him if he takes the pledge. As Donald Trump said on Morning Joe today, "twenty million viewers didn't tune in to the first debate to watch Jeb Bush". The RNC knows what side its bread is buttered on.

I am a strong conservative, and a strong Republican and active.

I am of the opinion, this man is an anchor to the party.

Can anyone, and I have visited his website, tell me ONE SINGLE PROPOSAL on ANY issue that he has offered.

Guest
08-10-2015, 03:59 PM
I am a strong conservative, and a strong Republican and active.

I am of the opinion, this man is an anchor to the party.

Can anyone, and I have visited his website, tell me ONE SINGLE PROPOSAL on ANY issue that he has offered.

Trump is going to build a 25 foot wall on the boarder of US and Mexico so the Mexican govement don't send more of their criminels here. He is also going to have it paid for by Mexicans and not, we the people, of America.

He has guts to say what he going to do and I am voting for him and don't care if he runs as a Republican or whatever.

Guest
08-10-2015, 04:21 PM
Trump is going to build a 25 foot wall on the boarder of US and Mexico so the Mexican govement don't send more of their criminels here. He is also going to have it paid for by Mexicans and not, we the people, of America.

He has guts to say what he going to do and I am voting for him and don't care if he runs as a Republican or whatever.

Trump is also going to load the 11 million or 30 million or whatever number of illegals onto buses and drive them back to their home country and dump them off.

Guest
08-10-2015, 08:15 PM
Trump is also going to load the 11 million or 30 million or whatever number of illegals onto buses and drive them back to their home country and dump them off.

He had better send a few busses to The Villages for the illegal immigrants who take care of our community.

Guest
08-11-2015, 06:48 AM
Trump is going to build a 25 foot wall on the boarder of US and Mexico so the Mexican govement don't send more of their criminels here. He is also going to have it paid for by Mexicans and not, we the people, of America.

He has guts to say what he going to do and I am voting for him and don't care if he runs as a Republican or whatever.

You won't get a chance to vote for him. He will bow out in a few months, if not sooner. If a fence doesn't work, do you think his amazing wall will make a difference? They can tunnel under them or climb over them. The answer is catching them and charging them, charging anyone that hires them and getting rid of sanctuary cities. If you want cheap labor, then you arrest them and give them a choice to go home and stay home or work prison farms and road gangs.

Guest
08-11-2015, 10:33 AM
He had better send a few busses to The Villages for the illegal immigrants who take care of our community.

Why do you assume they're illegal?:ohdear:

Guest
08-11-2015, 11:45 AM
Why do you assume they're illegal?:ohdear:

Not directed at me, but that's a good question. Why do you consider them LEGAL?