Ranking the candidates based on first debate

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Kasich
Rubio
Christie
Bush
Huckabee
Cruz
Walker
Carson
Paul
Fiorina
Graham
Santorum
The rest except for....
Trump

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I have been talking about Carly Fiorina for sometime now on these pages and she delivered yesterday. I like her even more

I also liked Rubio, Huckabee, and Carson all of whom should get a boost from this debate

I believe Trump hurt himself, Bush hurt himself ,Paul hurt himself. as to the rest of the candidates I didn't change my position one way or another.

Personal Best Regards:

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Carly did absolutely nothing! Paul, Huckabee, Walker, and Rubio were back seat riders in the clown car. Christy and Bush were in the front seat of the clown car. The clown car was purposely aimed at Donnie Trump. He sidestepped the clown car and it crashed.

Trump wins again - the rest of the GOP candidates look like clown goo.

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Donald Trump got 24 million viewers to last night's debate. The first debate in 2011 got four million viewers. Without Trump on the stage last night, this would have been a real snore-fest.

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I liked Carly also. Cruz, rubio, Huckabee and I still like Trump. They played dirty by setting him up but I like the fact he is not a politician and although not polished like the rest he is still a successful man and would surround himself with the right people carson is brilliant, but meek which we don't need. We have a wonderful line up and the dems can't find one good candidate. Great debate. Megan Kelly made me sick trying to bring up the war on women. Maybe she should move over to CNBC.

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I though that Marco Rubio looked and sounded the best of all of them. Kasich also came off pretty well.

Trump didn't hurt himself so in that way, he won. He was in the lead and I don't think that the size of the lead will change because of last night's debate.

There are really only two or three that I can see actually becoming the nominee. I really don't see Trump going the distance. People are either going to love him or hate him and I don't think that a presidential candidate can afford alienate people the way Trump does.

It's really a very interesting primary because if you take Trump out of the picture, there's not real clear frontrunner. Bush is leading Walker by a slight margin, but if Trump eventually drops out, I don't think that his people are going to go for Bush.

I like Rubio's chances.

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Trump is in this thing only to raise his personal profile and brand and to feed his massive ego. There is simply no way he would put his assets in a blind trust and step aside from running his companies, to take the presidency, assuming that the party was so dysfunctional as to nominate him, and the country so dysfunctional as to elect him. He is an interesting distraction at this point.

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Before the debate I was hoping for a Rubio/Fiorina ticket. After last night I am behind Carly as the nominee 100%. She has got what it takes and maybe, just maybe those that simply want to vote for a woman might be impressed by her rather than that other one who has accomplished not much of anything in her life. I thought Rubio did really well as well as Christy, but I don't believe Christy is electable. Interesting cast of nominees - like Rubio said "we are blessed to have so many, when the Democrats can't even find one decent one".

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Before the debate I was hoping for a Rubio/Fiorina ticket. After last night I am behind Carly as the nominee 100%. She has got what it takes and maybe, just maybe those that simply want to vote for a woman might be impressed by her rather than that other one who has accomplished not much of anything in her life. I thought Rubio did really well as well as Christy, but I don't believe Christy is electable. Interesting cast of nominees - like Rubio said "we are blessed to have so many, when the Democrats can't even find one decent one".

:agree:

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I was favoring Kasich until last night's junior varsity debate(?). Now, I am hoping to see more Fiorina. Trump is a wild card, or Joker in this case and I don't take him seriously. I think he is more of a stage prop. We have 17 possibles right now and it wouldn't hurt me if any one of about 10-12 of them got the nomination.

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Trump warned them not to dismiss him but if they throw him out he said he would go 3rd party. He's been consistent in his statements I am still for trump. Rand Paul lost. Cruz great and Carly could beat Hillary hands down

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Carly did absolutely nothing! Paul, Huckabee, Walker, and Rubio were back seat riders in the clown car. Christy and Bush were in the front seat of the clown car. The clown car was purposely aimed at Donnie Trump. He sidestepped the clown car and it crashed.

Trump wins again - the rest of the GOP candidates look like clown goo.

Your usual nonsensical :censored:

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Your usual nonsensical :censored:

:agree:

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Carly did absolutely nothing! Paul, Huckabee, Walker, and Rubio were back seat riders in the clown car. Christy and Bush were in the front seat of the clown car. The clown car was purposely aimed at Donnie Trump. He sidestepped the clown car and it crashed.

Trump wins again - the rest of the GOP candidates look like clown goo.

Whomever posted this has single handly lowered the average IQ of posters on this forum and it was not that great to begin with.

How does one get this emotionally screwed up ?

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Trump should really wipe that sour look off his face. He looks exactly like Benito Mussolini.(lol)

Most everyone is stating the Kasich did really well, Trump held his own, and Bush didn't screw up.

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That clown car post was hilarious. It was good enough to be on the opening monologue of Conan.

Whoever posted this has single handly raised the average IQ of posters on this forum.

How does one get this amazing writing skill ?

:bigbow:

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Trump got 24 million viewers for the debate? 20 million tuned in to watch a train wreck.

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If Carly Fiorina catapults to the top ten, someone will be booted out. Could be Kasich or Paul. If this happens it will be fun to watch Fiorina take on Donald Trump in the next debate.

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Fiorina and Rubio led the two discussions. The second one may have had a semblance of a debate a couple of times, but the candidates were too well behaved. Should have put a couple of liberals in there and then it would have looked like an episode of the walking dead, with blood and gore everywhere. Oh yeah!

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Fiorina and Rubio led the two discussions. The second one may have had a semblance of a debate a couple of times, but the candidates were too well behaved. Should have put a couple of liberals in there and then it would have looked like an episode of the walking dead, with blood and gore everywhere. Oh yeah!

I also was impressed with Rubio and Florina.

I will add that it is like the exhibition season in football. Long way to go and many more hurdles to over come.

No chance or time to extensively discuss much of anything and other than a few exchanges, not much dialogue between the candidates. BUT NO TIME on this one either.

As it progresses it will become more definitive and detailed, but I agree that based on confidence and supposed grasp of the issues, Rubio and Fiorina stood up.

Hoping further debates will meet this standard for sure.

I am not sure why any of the liberals are making fun. It seems the liberal pundits and the other networks had praise...

"With its big debate night in the can, the good news for Fox is that its usual enemies on the left hate it quite a bit less, at least for the moment.

At CNN, Brian Stelter provided a roundup of the “almost unanimously positive reviews” Fox’s “tough debate questions” generated. Included were a former Obama Administration official, a liberal magazine editor, a public radio host and BuzzFeed’s editor-in-chief. All had nothing but praise:"

https://s3.amazonaws.com/medeq/files/uploads/2015/08/07022234/Libs-love-Fox-debate.jpg

There was criticism from some on the right which is to be expected. With that many folks and their followers, it is liking grading umpires in baseball. It all depended on what team you were on. Most of the complaints were very specific in who got passed over, etc.

Great debate night and look forward to more.

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A big thank you to FOX for creating a way for all 17 candidates to be heard.
As opposed to the main stream networks that did not even mention the other 7.....for obvious Fiorina reasons!!

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If Carly Fiorina catapults to the top ten, someone will be booted out. Could be Kasich or Paul. If this happens it will be fun to watch Fiorina take on Donald Trump in the next debate.

I would like to see Carly explain why HP sent their customer service to India and their manufacturing to China while she was CEO.

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I would like to see Carly explain why HP sent their customer service to India and their manufacturing to China while she was CEO.

Why?

When I was in Panama, Dell set up their support at the old military air base.

I think the question is, can she do the job. After eight years of Obama, I think we can pretty much figure that question to be a moot point. Anyone can do the job. Hopefully, the next president will have some leadership skills.

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A big thank you to FOX for creating a way for all 17 candidates to be heard.
As opposed to the main stream networks that did not even mention the other 7.....for obvious Fiorina reasons!!

:agree:

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That clown car post was hilarious. It was good enough to be on the opening monologue of Conan.

Whoever posted this has single handly raised the average IQ of posters on this forum.

How does one get this amazing writing skill ?

:bigbow:

You really enjoy amusing yourself, don't you? To the rest of us, you just look like a fool.

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I would like to see Carly explain why HP sent their customer service to India and their manufacturing to China while she was CEO.

Well, this is from 2010......

"Democrats privately know that free trade and cheap manufacturing abroad result in cheap consumer goods at places like Walmart and Home Depot, which expands the purchasing power of the strapped American consumer. Republicans stress that in the open arena of trade, the more competition, the more pressure on American firms to stay lean and turn out better products at lower costs.

One reason why a Hewlett-Packard, or an Apple or a Microsoft, is so successful is that the skilled engineering, administration, and financing of such global high-profit operations draw on unique American talent and labor, while the often less-skilled fabrication of the resulting consumer goods is in part outsourced to places where labor regulations, wages, and attitudes tend to be very non-American. Would we prefer it the other way around — $100,000-a-year Chinese engineers traveling to San Jose or Gilroy to teach our unskilled workers how to assemble their hot-selling, freshly designed electronic gadgets at the rate of $1 an hour?


Carly Fiorina: Robber Baron, Traitor (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/248046/carly-fiorina-robber-baron-traitor-and-outsourcer-victor-davis-hanson)

I am sure that the party of NAFTA, etc understands but it does not make for good tweets the day after she looked so good

I suspect you are the same poster who posted a supposed quote thrashing at Carly Florina. I really hope you will obey the rules of this forum and tell us where that came from.

Other than thinking it is important to follow rules, I am curious the source of all of this.

Carly Fiorina must have really looked good to have this kind of menial attempt at thrashing her.

Tell us...is this coming from the Clinton campaign....oh wait, they were posting selfies last night the the Kardashians......good choice I suppose...hanging with the middle class !!!

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You really enjoy amusing yourself, don't you? To the rest of us, you just look like a fool.

This poster and two others have been the source of much laughter at times. They know very little about current events but they can sure make the wisea$$ cracks with the best of them.

But, a fool is supposed to make you laugh, right ?

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A big thank you to FOX for creating a way for all 17 candidates to be heard.
As opposed to the main stream networks that did not even mention the other 7.....for obvious Fiorina reasons!!

Agree with your post........right to the very end. Good one!

Anyway, I would vote hands down for Fiorina as the stand-out in the first debate, and if I had to pick just one in the second it would be Rubio. When he's focused and on point he can really deliver a message. For a young guy, he comes across very wise and confident. His one liner about the Dems not even being able to come up with one candidate was great.......and apparently oh so true!!

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You really enjoy amusing yourself, don't you? To the rest of us, you just look like a fool.

Your posts prove you are definitely a fool. Now, get back down your troll hole and do not come out again. You are not relevant.

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Your posts prove you are definitely a fool. Now, get back down your troll hole and do not come out again. You are not relevant.

Same guy....same quote....."you are not relevant"

Someday write yourself some new lines before your shift at trolling.

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You really enjoy amusing yourself, don't you? To the rest of us, you just look like a fool.

:agree:

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Same guy....same quote....."you are not relevant"

Someday write yourself some new lines before your shift at trolling.

He used that one on me also, on another thread. I have yet to find anything he said to be funny. He must be the one that writes that some find him funny. I find him to be juvenile and I doubt he is a TV resident. Most likely a volunteer troll, because no one would pay him for his lame contributions on here.

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He used that one on me also, on another thread. I have yet to find anything he said to be funny. He must be the one that writes that some find him funny. I find him to be juvenile and I doubt he is a TV resident. Most likely a volunteer troll, because no one would pay him for his lame contributions on here.

I know him and he knows me. He is not a paid troll at all, at least I would be shocked if that were the case. I give him more credit than that.

But the wise a$$ remarks and making things up are for sure his trademark.

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He used that one on me also, on another thread. I have yet to find anything he said to be funny. He must be the one that writes that some find him funny. I find him to be juvenile and I doubt he is a TV resident. Most likely a volunteer troll, because no one would pay him for his lame contributions on here.

Don't let it bother you too much. From what I have noticed about this poster, those he calls trolls are usually some of the most informed, most intelligent posters on this forum. So if he calls you that, it really is a compliment in my opinion. Your posts are a threat to his ideology and that makes you just what he says you are not - RELEVANT! It seems to irk him and so he goes on with the name calling. If you are a troll in his eyes, you are in good company. :)

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For the Most part the posts in this thread are worthLess, on both sides. Not to lecture you, but responding to someone who is trying to get under your skin is totally counterproductive. The reason they post in the first place is to get under your skin, and by reacting you feed them exactly what they want and throw gasoline on the fire. If you ignore them they will quickly lose interest. I started this thread with the hope that others would post their rankings but the replies have, for the most part, been disappointing and pathetic.

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For the Most part the posts in this thread are worthLess, on both sides. Not to lecture you, but responding to someone who is trying to get under your skin is totally counterproductive. The reason they post in the first place is to get under your skin, and by reacting you feed them exactly what they want and throw gasoline on the fire. If you ignore them they will quickly lose interest. I started this thread with the hope that others would post their rankings but the replies have, for the most part, been disappointing and pathetic.

Not saying that you are incorrect, but i must respectfully disagree with you.

If you do not get back in their face if you do not challenge them, name them, then they simply have fun with each other.

For the most part they do not troll as individuals and they feed off each other.

I have tried that ignoring them and they just get worse and try to top each other. For them this is their video game...trolling.

You started a good thread and I share you disappointment in having a good conversation terminated by wise guys and I am sure that other disagree with me and think ignore is good.

IGNORE worked when you knew who was posting.....they need to be called out is my opinion.

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The single biggest asset to the antagonizers here is the fact they are anonymously hidden as "guest".

In this format they can attack and a single loose cannon can utilize multiple posts to falsely reresent a dialogue that would otherwise be easily detected, hence giving the appearance of a quarum or support on a given issue.

And we all know their bravado is directly linked to being hidden behind the keyboard.

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Well, this is from 2010......

"Democrats privately know that free trade and cheap manufacturing abroad result in cheap consumer goods at places like Walmart and Home Depot, which expands the purchasing power of the strapped American consumer. Republicans stress that in the open arena of trade, the more competition, the more pressure on American firms to stay lean and turn out better products at lower costs.

One reason why a Hewlett-Packard, or an Apple or a Microsoft, is so successful is that the skilled engineering, administration, and financing of such global high-profit operations draw on unique American talent and labor, while the often less-skilled fabrication of the resulting consumer goods is in part outsourced to places where labor regulations, wages, and attitudes tend to be very non-American. Would we prefer it the other way around — $100,000-a-year Chinese engineers traveling to San Jose or Gilroy to teach our unskilled workers how to assemble their hot-selling, freshly designed electronic gadgets at the rate of $1 an hour?


Carly Fiorina: Robber Baron, Traitor (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/248046/carly-fiorina-robber-baron-traitor-and-outsourcer-victor-davis-hanson)

I am sure that the party of NAFTA, etc understands but it does not make for good tweets the day after she looked so good

I suspect you are the same poster who posted a supposed quote thrashing at Carly Florina. I really hope you will obey the rules of this forum and tell us where that came from.

Other than thinking it is important to follow rules, I am curious the source of all of this.

Carly Fiorina must have really looked good to have this kind of menial attempt at thrashing her.

Tell us...is this coming from the Clinton campaign....oh wait, they were posting selfies last night the the Kardashians......good choice I suppose...hanging with the middle class !!!


Nope, the post you quoted was mine. I don't have quotes to trash her, I was a loyal hp customer. Then they merged with compaq and instead to compaq rising to hp standards hp sunk to producing products that were garbage.

About the same time hp layed off something like 30,000 employees and their stock dived. If I called for tech support I was forced to speak to someone in India who had a poor command of the English language.

If my memory serves me the day she took her golden parachute the employees celebrated.

I don't think she's a good pick for restoring jobs.

On a more personal note, imo she reminds me of a bored Greenwich housewife.

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Nope, the post you quoted was mine. I don't have quotes to trash her, I was a loyal hp customer. Then they merged with compaq and instead to compaq rising to hp standards hp sunk to producing products that were garbage.

About the same time hp layed off something like 30,000 employees and their stock dived. If I called for tech support I was forced to speak to someone in India who had a poor command of the English language.

If my memory serves me the day she took her golden parachute the employees celebrated.

I don't think she's a good pick for restoring jobs.

On a more personal note, imo she reminds me of a bored Greenwich housewife.

Sorry to quote my own post, but I couldn't edit. Anyone else remember Lucent? Ms Fiorina was instrumental in the forming of Lucent and the At&T split. Something like 30,000 people were layed off, their stock was one of the wall st darlings and if my memory serves me became alcatel-lucent-I think they're in France.

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And Hillary is a better pick? :1rotfl:

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And Hillary is a better pick? :1rotfl:

Don't think so but she does have a certain appeal to the more stupid elements of society.

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Perhaps Perry did so unintentionally, but when speaking he said that if he were president he would have sent Carly to negoitate the Iranians. Did he itented to slight her because she was a woman? Carly's expression was neutral. But it may have hurt Perry with women?

As I stated many time I have been watching Carlyclosely. Both she and Rubio present in a manner that fits my style. So I need to be on guard and not to let that sway my thinking (i.e Is it I like what you say or the way you say it?).

Personal Best Regards:

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Sorry to quote my own post, but I couldn't edit. Anyone else remember Lucent? Ms Fiorina was instrumental in the forming of Lucent and the At&T split. Something like 30,000 people were layed off, their stock was one of the wall st darlings and if my memory serves me became alcatel-lucent-I think they're in France.

First, it is no doubt that her business history is sketchy. Nobody will or should debate that, but as the old stories about other candidates are thrown aside this will also. But you are right...her record is sketchy.

While she is not my top choice, she is impressive with her knowledge of the issues, her presentation and as times gone on we will see about her plans for policy....we have LONG WAY TO GO.

For me, I can in no way seen in mankind vote for Hillary Clinton and find ANY of the Republican candidates to be much more worthy than she. Speaking of the past, she has one that requires extra buses and frankly, some of her past is EXTREMELY UGLY and she just continues.

I realize that her opponents and the media present her as someone who expects to be queen, but she does nothing to in anyway deter that scenario.

ALL presidents of either party have political positions and aspirations, but never in my life (and that covers a lot) have I ever seen a President of this country be so enamored with the political aspect of everything, including foreign affairs.

My fear is that, as bad as it is, Ms Clinton has the extreme potential to even be worse. She is so full of contradictions it boggles the mind.

Obviously I dismiss Bernie Sanders because he is so far left and so close to socialism and communism which has been a bane for centuries that that support is out.

Mr Biden. I think, after following him for many years is just not presidential material. He is a GREAT worker bee.....a congressman, senator but not a leader although he has the ability to get deals done, as a President I think he would not fare well.

That leaves me with the Republican field. Right now, I am finding myself in Rubios corner....liking Bush, Kasich and Walker.

But want you to know that i understand your concern with Fiorina's past....I know of it....do not fear it as it is no unusual or filled with any corruption.

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Sorry to quote my own post, but I couldn't edit. Anyone else remember Lucent? Ms Fiorina was instrumental in the forming of Lucent and the At&T split. Something like 30,000 people were layed off, their stock was one of the wall st darlings and if my memory serves me became alcatel-lucent-I think they're in France.

Like it or not fortune 500 corporations are beholding to their share holders first and foremost......not to saving thousands of jobs.
If that could be accomplished in the action that would be fine.

Most company actions to improve profitability and share holder value involves reducing expenses and like it or not the largest target for bottom line improvement is to get expenses/employment back in line with generating a profit.

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Like it or not fortune 500 corporations are beholding to their share holders first and foremost......not to saving thousands of jobs.
If that could be accomplished in the action that would be fine.

Most company actions to improve profitability and share holder value involves reducing expenses and like it or not the largest target for bottom line improvement is to get expenses/employment back in line with generating a profit.

Sounds exactly what we need in D.C. NOW!

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"Most company actions to improve profitability and share holder value involves reducing expenses and like it or not the largest target for bottom line improvement is to get expenses/employment back in line with generating a profit."
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How would Fiorina accomplish this if she were President? Would it be a big cutback in social programs such as SNAP, Children School Lunches, and Aid to Dependent Children?

Would it be a cutback (hiring freeze) in the number of Federal employees?

Would it be a further reduction of the military expenses including troop levels?

Could this be accomplished with the divide we now have in Congress or would she sign an Executive Order?

None of the above items would make her popular with all groups. What might some other ways be to cut expenses for her?

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"Most company actions to improve profitability and share holder value involves reducing expenses and like it or not the largest target for bottom line improvement is to get expenses/employment back in line with generating a profit."
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How would Fiorina accomplish this if she were President? Would it be a big cutback in social programs such as SNAP, Children School Lunches, and Aid to Dependent Children?

Would it be a cutback (hiring freeze) in the number of Federal employees?

Would it be a further reduction of the military expenses including troop levels?

Could this be accomplished with the divide we now have in Congress or would she sign an Executive Order?

None of the above items would make her popular with all groups. What might some other ways be to cut expenses for her?

I don't know you poster, but do you know the explicit, clear differences between corporate P L and the USA government budget ?

Same ploy was tried with Romney and it has no bearing..no comparison AT ALL.

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Perhaps Perry did so unintentionally, but when speaking he said that if he were president he would have sent Carly to negoitate the Iranians. Did he itented to slight her because she was a woman? Carly's expression was neutral. But it may have hurt Perry with women?

As I stated many time I have been watching Carlyclosely. Both she and Rubio present in a manner that fits my style. So I need to be on guard and not to let that sway my thinking (i.e Is it I like what you say or the way you say it?).

Personal Best Regards:

Regarding Perry's comment - personally I thought he meant it as a compliment. Did not see it from your way of thinking at all. I thought he was alluding to her past experience in dealing with foreign leaders when she was head of HP and also her experience as a negotiator in business deals. In fact, I wondered when he said it if he was also alluding to the fact that he would consider her for a member of his team (VP or cabinet) it he were elected. Totally saw that one differently than you, but who knows?

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I don't know you poster, but do you know the explicit, clear differences between corporate P L and the USA government budget ?

Same ploy was tried with Romney and it has no bearing..no comparison AT ALL.

Not looking for a fight. I just tossed a couple of points out there. Since I am not experienced at this, what areas do you believe that Fiorina might choose to cut / and would she be able to do it with a divided Congress?

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Regarding Perry's comment - personally I thought he meant it as a compliment. Did not see it from your way of thinking at all. I thought he was alluding to her past experience in dealing with foreign leaders when she was head of HP and also her experience as a negotiator in business deals. In fact, I wondered when he said it if he was also alluding to the fact that he would consider her for a member of his team (VP or cabinet) it he were elected. Totally saw that one differently than you, but who knows?

:agree:

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"Most company actions to improve profitability and share holder value involves reducing expenses and like it or not the largest target for bottom line improvement is to get expenses/employment back in line with generating a profit."
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How would Fiorina accomplish this if she were President? Would it be a big cutback in social programs such as SNAP, Children School Lunches, and Aid to Dependent Children?

Would it be a cutback (hiring freeze) in the number of Federal employees?

Would it be a further reduction of the military expenses including troop levels?

Could this be accomplished with the divide we now have in Congress or would she sign an Executive Order?

None of the above items would make her popular with all groups. What might some other ways be to cut expenses for her?

Maybe she could outsorce Congress, ship the entire operation to India.

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Maybe she could outsorce Congress, ship the entire operation to India.

Same remarks EXACTLY in 2012 aimed at Romney.

Gotta get new material.

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Same remarks EXACTLY in 2012 aimed at Romney.

Gotta get new material.


Thanks for reminding us how successful that campaign against Romney worked.

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Thanks for reminding us how successful that campaign against Romney worked.

WHAT ?

What difference does it make ??????

WOW..are you involved in the world as it REALLY is ???

I think this is the same poster who jumped on Romney also for being locked in the fifties,,,,,,about Russia,

I made my comment because you all are repeating the same lines...get new material is all I said....

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Why bother to get any new material? Romney lost in 2012, didn't he?

Would Fiorina connect any better with the middle class than Romney did in 2012? She is as rich as Mrs. Clinton and appears to be pretty stuck up.

Why won't Fiorina release her income tax records?

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Why bother to get any new material? Romney lost in 2012, didn't he?

Would Fiorina connect any better with the middle class than Romney did in 2012? She is as rich as Mrs. Clinton and appears to be pretty stuck up.

Why won't Fiorina release her income tax records?

Do not repeat this but what I heard is that Fiorina had her tax records on her own private server and she had done quite a bit of embezzling while in business.

She swears it is all a conspiracy by those who oppose her....this worked one time before when she was younger and said the same thing about the terrible chronic cigar smoking that was going on with various and sundry folks in the board room.

So you have to trust her...please...she is telling the truth and would never lie to you......oh, come on now, don't hold the other lies against her.

Trust her...she is sorting through all the records on that private server and by the way, it does not matter that her companies did not know about the server....heck, they should have known. So she is searching through for those records that you have been asking for the last year or so...it takes time you know but trust her...she is working on it and it just takes time.

But disregard the company she destroyed that her boss said was such a success and trust her, she would never do anything wrong. All the other stuff is simply a vast conspiracy

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I a sorry for my sarcastic story and post.

Not something I usually do and obviously do not do well and I forgot that you cannot delete in here.

But all caused by a vast left wing conspiracy of asking about tax records over and over and over as it it were an actual issue.

Sorry again

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No need to apologize.......we all get frustrated at times and sometimes we push the button and send and other times we delete it in time. Your post wasn't so bad after all, but to apologize as you did puts you heads above the posters to which your post was directed as far as character is concerned.

Have a good day. :)

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Do not repeat this but what I heard is that Fiorina had her tax records on her own private server and she had done quite a bit of embezzling while in business.

She swears it is all a conspiracy by those who oppose her....this worked one time before when she was younger and said the same thing about the terrible chronic cigar smoking that was going on with various and sundry folks in the board room.

So you have to trust her...please...she is telling the truth and would never lie to you......oh, come on now, don't hold the other lies against her.

Trust her...she is sorting through all the records on that private server and by the way, it does not matter that her companies did not know about the server....heck, they should have known. So she is searching through for those records that you have been asking for the last year or so...it takes time you know but trust her...she is working on it and it just takes time.

But disregard the company she destroyed that her boss said was such a success and trust her, she would never do anything wrong. All the other stuff is simply a vast conspiracy

Sounds like what Clinton and her advisors would state since it works so well for her!!
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You can see how scared the liberals are getting. Already pouncing on a junior varsity star before the game is even in the first quarter. They are very desperate, and rightly so. After all, what do they have to offer in regards to candidates this time? And wow, what happens to all those freebies when their last great "Hope and Change" is sent packing?

I hope to see a Fiorina and Rubio or Kasich ticket, but it's too early to predict. A lot of lies and filth can be thrown out there by the liberal media before the primary. Fiorina would be Clinton's greatest nightmare. And what would she say about Rubio? That he's too young, ha, ha.?

And Billary just keeps on living in her own fantasy daze, moving from one state to another, acting the queen she believes is her birth right. How dare the little people try to crowd her and ask her senseless questions, as if she is some common bureaucrat.

Where's Biden when the Democrats need him. Maybe he will appear suddenly, in the nick of time, mounted on his great white steed...to...save...the....day. Or, maybe he's tired and grieving and has no motivation to bail out a failing ideology.

And as the sun sets, we see a bit of smoke rising to obscure the last vestiges of the sun's rays on the horizon. Smoke residue from what's left of the ancient ideology of socialism and the burnt offerings from planned parenthood as they attempt to destroy our American children's future. And more smoke from D.C. as disenchanted and angry entitled destroy congress because they failed to convert inflated paper revenue into gold. Folks that learned that social programs are great until the money going out to pay for them is greater than that which is collected. Why? Because the wealthy closed their businesses due to over taxation and Obamacare and fled the country.

I see liberals nashing their teeth and rendering their clothing as they look to the sky and cry ????? (they don't believe). Woe to those that forsake capitalism for the promise of a socialist utopia. Woe to those that worship their false idol, Obama as the world crumbles about them.

Anyway, I think the coming campaign season is going to be quite entertaining. Stay tuned for the upcoming episodes of candidate versus candidate vs reporter and see if Ms. Kelly gets a good jab in on Trump or does he scald her with derisive sexist hooks. Did Trump make secret deals with the left or is this all a complex plot to divert attention away from receivers sprinting for the end zone? Will Trump take his ball and threaten to start his own game, ruining the GOP's chance of a Championship, or will he honorably bow out as he did in the last election? Stay tuned for the continued saga of historical significance, and watch as the World Turns.

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Trump would be a terrible pres. He would make a fool of himself and this country. Also within 2 weeks we would be at war. His ideas are foolish and dangerous.

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Rubio and the rest want to do away with SS etc. SS would only be for the needy. Needy??? Does that mean totally broke before and on yours knees begging for help. I like SS and medicare. Our politicians need to take pay cuts and give up their medical benefits. Sorry I vote for the guy who is in my corner. I have a personal response from Rubio on this issue.

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Rubio and the rest want to do away with SS etc. SS would only be for the needy. Needy??? Does that mean totally broke before and on yours knees begging for help. I like SS and medicare. Our politicians need to take pay cuts and give up their medical benefits. Sorry I vote for the guy who is in my corner. I have a personal response from Rubio on this issue.

Where did you get this information?

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Trump would be a terrible pres. He would make a fool of himself and this country. Also within 2 weeks we would be at war. His ideas are foolish and dangerous.

He would make a "fool of himself" ???? As opposed to what we have in there currently?
At war? Most likely we will be at war anyway, because of this administration's foreign policies of leading from behind (also known as following) and giving everything away, also known as "negotiating."
I consider Obama's ideas "foolish and dangerous."

Trump didn't make billions by being "foolish and dangerous." Although, he is not my first choice, he is infinitely preferred over Clinton.

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He would make a "fool of himself" ???? As opposed to what we have in there currently?
At war? Most likely we will be at war anyway, because of this administration's foreign policies of leading from behind (also known as following) and giving everything away, also known as "negotiating."
I consider Obama's ideas "foolish and dangerous."

Trump didn't make billions by being "foolish and dangerous." Although, he is not my first choice, he is infinitely preferred over Clinton.

Your Republican party has used two terms that describe you to a tee.

"Low Information Voter" and "Useful Idiot".

Enjoy yourself - no one else does!

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Your Republican party has used two terms that describe you to a tee.

"Low Information Voter" and "Useful Idiot".

Enjoy yourself - no one else does!

Where did you come from, ACME used Trolls? :jester:

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Your Republican party has used two terms that describe you to a tee.

"Low Information Voter" and "Useful Idiot".

Enjoy yourself - no one else does!

And yet, you are a Clinton voter. Either you are what you describe as a "low information voter" or just stupid. But, I am not judging you....:D

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Seems everyone posting here is a "guest"....interesting.

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With all the politicians the past 20 to 30 years, they are already corrupt or "OWE too much" to other people or companies that helped get them elected, that there is no way they can do an honest job for our Country.

Trump owes NOBODY!!! He's his own man and says what he feels. What other politician has ever done that? No one that I can think of. He doesn't owe anyone anything, isn't obligated to other countries like Hillary is. I actually like that he doesn't worry about what is politically correct and says what he feels. I am sick and tired of these people speaking out of the sides of their mouth because "it's the right thing to say". That means they are going to spend 4 more years doing nothing for this Country just like the joke in the White House now has. This Country can't afford 4 more years of someone like that. In fact, I don't know if our Country has already gone too far to be able to come back. We are the laughingstock of the world right now and need someone who isn't afraid of hurting people's feelings and will get the job done, no matter what.

Have you seen the email where the lowlifes of this Country have figured out how to get $75,000 a year entitlements FREE and it's all legal? We better wake up!!!

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With all the politicians the past 20 to 30 years, they are already corrupt or "OWE too much" to other people or companies that helped get them elected, that there is no way they can do an honest job for our Country.

Trump owes NOBODY!!! He's his own man and says what he feels. What other politician has ever done that? No one that I can think of. He doesn't owe anyone anything, isn't obligated to other countries like Hillary is. I actually like that he doesn't worry about what is politically correct and says what he feels. I am sick and tired of these people speaking out of the sides of their mouth because "it's the right thing to say". That means they are going to spend 4 more years doing nothing for this Country just like the joke in the White House now has.

Have you seen the email where the lowlifes of this Country have figured out how to get $75,000 a year entitlements FREE and it's all legal? We better wake up!!!

Check out truthfulness of some of these forwarded emails before posting. According to truthorfiction.com, that is pure fiction on the $75K entitlements.

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Check out truthfulness of some of these forwarded emails before posting. According to truthorfiction.com, that is pure fiction on the $75K entitlements.

Actually, in some cases it's more than $75K, but whose counting?

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And he doesn't play dirty. He's a complete jerk.