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VApeople
08-13-2015, 02:19 PM
By 'good' I mean a handicap of 10 or less, or maybe less than 15.

The courses look pretty nice on a map, but I am wondering how much you play them as compared to the par-72 courses. If you do enjoy the Exec courses, which ones do you prefer?

Which par-72 courses do you prefer? The Palmer course looks like it has great views but a lot of places to lose a golf ball, whereas the Glenview doesn't look as hard but a player would spend the whole day looking at the backs of houses, which can get kind of boring.

Mikeod
08-13-2015, 02:38 PM
I enjoy them all! Index<8. The execs are rated 1-4 on difficulty. The 4 courses are plenty challenging, but the others have challenges as well. Sometimes I purposely hit one less club so I come up short to work on my chipping or sand play. Often I won't tee the ball up, just play it off the turf as if it was a fairway shot on a regular course. On some courses the tees are all about the same yardage if you stay with one set of tees, so I'll change tees to get different yardages and not hitting the same club on many holes.

On the regulation courses I don't see the backs of the houses, even though they're there. I've played many courses built within a development where the houses are much closer to the holes than here.

dewilson58
08-13-2015, 02:42 PM
I enjoy them all! Index<8. The execs are rated 1-4 on difficulty. The 4 courses are plenty challenging, but the others have challenges as well. Sometimes I purposely hit one less club so I come up short to work on my chipping or sand play. Often I won't tee the ball up, just play it off the turf as if it was a fairway shot on a regular course. On some courses the tees are all about the same yardage if you stay with one set of tees, so I'll change tees to get different yardages and not hitting the same club on many holes.

On the regulation courses I don't see the backs of the houses, even though they're there. I've played many courses built within a development where the houses are much closer to the holes than here.


Great Post!! I'm in the same boat and have the same mindset.

:clap2:

Polar Bear
08-13-2015, 02:53 PM
I enjoy them all! Index<8. The execs are rated 1-4 on difficulty. The 4 courses are plenty challenging, but the others have challenges as well. Sometimes I purposely hit one less club so I come up short to work on my chipping or sand play. Often I won't tee the ball up, just play it off the turf as if it was a fairway shot on a regular course. On some courses the tees are all about the same yardage if you stay with one set of tees, so I'll change tees to get different yardages and not hitting the same club on many holes...
Pretty much sums up my approach. (I'm currently an 8 handicap, although I'm struggling to play to it lately! :) ) Good practice and lots of fun. I also often play without teeing the ball up, varying tees to vary distance, etc. Plus, I almost always walk the execs. Not so feasible on the champs. In the summer, I often start an exec course after 7:00pm and have no problem getting in nine. And of course the price is right! Can't beat it.

rubicon
08-13-2015, 03:16 PM
By 'good' I mean a handicap of 10 or less, or maybe less than 15.

The courses look pretty nice on a map, but I am wondering how much you play them as compared to the par-72 courses. If you do enjoy the Exec courses, which ones do you prefer?

Which par-72 courses do you prefer? The Palmer course looks like it has great views but a lot of places to lose a golf ball, whereas the Glenview doesn't look as hard but a player would spend the whole day looking at the backs of houses, which can get kind of boring.

Well your comments come across as elitist. Its like asking if homely people can find love

dewilson58
08-13-2015, 03:36 PM
I don't take the OP questions/comments as elitist, just asking a question to (possibly) like golfers.

OP...............welcome to ToTV................there are all types here.


:welcome:

Polar Bear
08-13-2015, 03:48 PM
I don't take OP as elitist at all. (Looking a little too hard for bad stuff maybe?)

rubicon
08-13-2015, 04:02 PM
I don't take the OP questions/comments as elitist, just asking a question to (possibly) like golfers.

OP...............welcome to ToTV................there are all types here.


:welcome:


Dewilson:

The heading read: "do good golfers enjoy executive courses"

Res ipsa loquitur "the thing speaks for itself"

I did not attack the OP. I addressed my interpretation of the comments.

The OP is the moving party and it is the OP's right to question my comments. If the OP had I may have apologized but that's the message behind the words that I received.

So let's agree not to address one another, on this forum, in the future unless there is direct written contract by either of us.

Personal Best Regards:

Finally

TheVillageChicken
08-13-2015, 04:04 PM
I have only played three of the execs, but I enjoy them. Par threes are statistically the hardest holes to score on and I consider it good for my game to play a lot of them. The only gripe I have here is that many of the bunkers on the courses I have played here are waaay too big for an executive track. If one enters at the low point, as etiquette dictates, it will often take them a couple of minutes to rake the bunker.

The Chickens's Handicap Index is 9.7, but as of late, his left knee handicap is a 36.

coach
08-13-2015, 04:27 PM
Try Pelican from the tips for a very difficult challenge.

fred53
08-13-2015, 05:19 PM
Been playing for over 50 years...hndcp now is about a 2-3 on the championships(blue/white tees) and scratch or better on the exec's(from black or gold tees)...only played championships till I moved here a few years ago at age 58 because they didn't have exec's in Maine or Virginia when I played as a teenager...I really like the exec's for the time they take and they are in very fine condition for the most part...I still like the championships as they test more aspects of my game, but play hell with my lower back when I go more than 9 holes...you still have to hit the shots on exec's, but because I'm teed up for most of the round I rarely have full 2nd shots into the greens(except for the par 4's...and even then it's usually a wedge)...

I play mostly exec's for the time and fun factor...once the social sec kicks in(if it's still around)I'll play more championships, but will still play mostly exec's...

Challenger
08-13-2015, 07:41 PM
I have only played three of the execs, but I enjoy them. Par threes are statistically the hardest holes to score on and I consider it good for my game to play a lot of them. The only gripe I have here is that many of the bunkers on the courses I have played here are waaay too big for an executive track. If one enters at the low point, as etiquette dictates, it will often take them a couple of minutes to rake the bunker.

The Chickens's Handicap Index is 9.7, but as of late, his left knee handicap is a 36.

I think that the configuration of the bunkers on execs are the main contributor to slow play. The bunkers are generally too difficult for the skill level of most players (not all) JMHO. Many of the pin placements are likewise far too difficult for the skill levels of most exec players, I often think that the persons cutting holes has never played the game and have no understanding of how difficult the placemnets are.

I play execs often and mumble to myself alot,

KeepingItReal
08-13-2015, 07:52 PM
By 'good' I mean a handicap of 10 or less, or maybe less than 15.

The Palmer course looks like it has great views but a lot of places to lose a golf ball, whereas the Glenview doesn't look as hard but a player would spend the whole day looking at the backs of houses, which can get kind of boring.
T.


Have to agree with Rubicon... All golfers here are good golfers, at least in their own mind..

Besides why would a good golfer have to worry about loosing his/her golf ball... :crap2:

fred53
08-13-2015, 07:59 PM
Besides why would a good golfer have to worry about loosing his/her golf ball... :crap2:

we don't....we have to worry about wearing them out...:icon_wink:

tomwed
08-13-2015, 10:34 PM
I don't see too many really good golfers on the execs but who cares. I haven't played the oldest champs up north but the others are all pretty good especially at 5pm this time of year.

VApeople
08-13-2015, 11:14 PM
Thanks for all of the very good responses! I am glad you all enjoy the Exec courses. I looked more closely at the Pelican course, and I agree that it does seem to have some very challenging shots, as well as a lot of natural beauty.

Fred53, do you think riding a cart is bad for your back? Until this year, I almost never rode a cart, but now I am doing more riding and I find that as a passenger my back sometimes gets sore, probably because the driver goes too fast and it jars my back when they hit a bump. When I drive, I drive very slow.

Which Championship courses do you all like to play?

VApeople
08-13-2015, 11:29 PM
Thanks for all of your comments. I am glad to hear you all really enjoy playing the Exec courses.

Which Championship courses do you enjoy playing the most?

Fred53, do you think your sore back may be caused by riding in a cart too much? Until this year, I almost never rode a cart and, when I did, I drove very slow so I would not jar my back. This year, I rode a couple times with someone who drove too fast and then hit a bump, and my back did not like it.

mulligan
08-14-2015, 02:41 AM
As to OP's original question, my guess would be most people hate the execs. That's why they've only recorded a million rounds so far this year ( 1.8 million rounds on all courses together).

golfing eagles
08-14-2015, 03:48 AM
Been playing for over 50 years...hndcp now is about a 2-3 on the championships(blue/white tees) and scratch or better on the exec's(from black or gold tees)...only played championships till I moved here a few years ago at age 58 because they didn't have exec's in Maine or Virginia when I played as a teenager...I really like the exec's for the time they take and they are in very fine condition for the most part...I still like the championships as they test more aspects of my game, but play hell with my lower back when I go more than 9 holes...you still have to hit the shots on exec's, but because I'm teed up for most of the round I rarely have full 2nd shots into the greens(except for the par 4's...and even then it's usually a wedge)...

I play mostly exec's for the time and fun factor...once the social sec kicks in(if it's still around)I'll play more championships, but will still play mostly exec's...

Ditto. Been playing for 45 years, did not play an "executive" course since I was 12 years old, my home course as a teenager was Bethpage Black and was lucky enough to get to play many of the great courses in the country. Unfortunately, I am still slowly recovering from a severely herniated and fragmented L4-5 disk 4 years ago that has left me with some permanent L leg nerve damage even though I'm only 56. I can't even THINK about walking a full course, sometimes it is hard to get thru a round.
Bought a house in TV early last year, have only occupied it for 6 weeks or so on and off, and just retired 5 weeks ago. My neighbor has a heart condition and plays execs for the walking, so I have played 2 or 3 times with him. I found the exec courses to be wonderful---surprisingly good conditions, good greens for the most part, and I was shocked to be able to walk the whole distance. Challenging?---can be---I looked at the course and thought this should be an easy 2 under---WRONG! as I limped (literally) in with a 6 over.
Am I a "good" golfer?--not anymore, was a +1 at one point, 21 after my injury, and have just worked it back to a 10. My wife has joint and muscle issues, she is a 2x club champion and now can't get thru 18, so we are glad there are so many execs, and this has changed my opinion of these courses in general. No, I still would prefer Bethpage, Winged Foot and Pinehurst #2 and hope to be able to handle them once again. Will still play mostly champ courses in TV, but it's great to have options, especially on bad back days.

And how the OP's question could be considered "elitist" is beyond me, unless he is a +2 asking a rhetorical question, which I doubt.

rubicon
08-14-2015, 04:36 AM
I think that the configuration of the bunkers on execs are the main contributor to slow play. The bunkers are generally too difficult for the skill level of most players (not all) JMHO. Many of the pin placements are likewise far too difficult for the skill levels of most exec players, I often think that the persons cutting holes has never played the game and have no understanding of how difficult the placemnets are.

I play execs often and mumble to myself alot,

Challenger: Perhaps bunkers are a problem but not the main issue (s) for slow play. In fact i noticed some golfers because of maladies won't bother to hit out of a bunker. slow play is because people's heads aren't in the game they are in synch with other players. The guys I hook up play truly ready golf and there is not a lot of fiddling over the ball. I have played with some guys and they take forever at address so that your thoughts are "while I'm young" I have seen some folks socializing while their group has tees off then they go get their driver and have some sort of voodoo ritual then hit. Some never position their carts properly.

I often walk and carry and I never hold anyone up. If I am having a bad round then its in the pocket. I do follow all the rules of golf to my knowledge

rubicon
08-14-2015, 04:50 AM
By 'good' I mean a handicap of 10 or less, or maybe less than 15.

The courses look pretty nice on a map, but I am wondering how much you play them as compared to the par-72 courses. If you do enjoy the Exec courses, which ones do you prefer?

Which par-72 courses do you prefer? The Palmer course looks like it has great views but a lot of places to lose a golf ball, whereas the Glenview doesn't look as hard but a player would spend the whole day looking at the backs of houses, which can get kind of boring.

Dear OP: In retrospect I regret my comments. Its not me because we were reared to understand the importance of humility and so one never flashes their wealth or their handicaps or their.......... Rereading your comments that was not your intent. I moved too quickly. My apology

Personal Best Regards:

Bay Kid
08-14-2015, 06:20 AM
2 years ago I was a 24 handicap, now I am a 13. 2 years of great practice on executive courses. I play them all for 6 months a year. One of the great things is there is no handicap to post, so each shot I am just taking dead aim, no fear about scoring. Also great for walking. We are very lucky to have all these courses available to us!

Challenger
08-14-2015, 06:58 AM
Challenger: Perhaps bunkers are a problem but not the main issue (s) for slow play. In fact i noticed some golfers because of maladies won't bother to hit out of a bunker. slow play is because people's heads aren't in the game they are in synch with other players. The guys I hook up play truly ready golf and there is not a lot of fiddling over the ball. I have played with some guys and they take forever at address so that your thoughts are "while I'm young" I have seen some folks socializing while their group has tees off then they go get their driver and have some sort of voodoo ritual then hit. Some never position their carts properly.

I often walk and carry and I never hold anyone up. If I am having a bad round then its in the pocket. I do follow all the rules of golf to my knowledge

Agree with you. Also not playing ready golf. For some reason many players just won't.

dewilson58
08-14-2015, 07:13 AM
Dewilson:

The heading read: "do good golfers enjoy executive courses"

Res ipsa loquitur "the thing speaks for itself"

I did not attack the OP. I addressed my interpretation of the comments.

The OP is the moving party and it is the OP's right to question my comments. If the OP had I may have apologized but that's the message behind the words that I received.

So let's agree not to address one another, on this forum, in the future unless there is direct written contract by either of us.

Personal Best Regards:

Finally


Wow...........we having a bad day?? Feels like you are talking to me directly and I'm not sure we have a written contract (your rule, not mine). Hope your day improves. Good news, it's FRIDAY!!

dewilson58
08-14-2015, 07:16 AM
2 years ago I was a 24 handicap, now I am a 13. 2 years of great practice on executive courses. I play them all for 6 months a year. One of the great things is there is no handicap to post, so each shot I am just taking dead aim, no fear about scoring. Also great for walking. We are very lucky to have all these courses available to us!

I like that description...............I am just taking dead aim, no fear about scoring. That can work for a lot of things in life. I think I need to have this quote posted in my house.

:ho:

golfing eagles
08-14-2015, 07:22 AM
Agree with you. Also not playing ready golf. For some reason many players just won't.

In 45 years of playing this game, I think I've seen it all---from a "golfer" taking 3 minutes to line up and practice swing his 11th shot to driving over to an adjacent hole to start a 5 minute conversation with a friend.
Perhaps too many are taking cues from the pros---they think a pro is good because he takes extra time, when in reality he takes extra time because he is good. He also has to make a living at this game, and he conversation with his caddy is not about last night's performance at the Sharon.
I live on EP, and have watched golfers come to the tee with the hole open, stand on the tee have some kind of 5 min discussion, then walk back to their carts to get their drivers. They then hit 2 mulligans each, with 3 practice swings before each one, then repeat the process from the fairway. I could play that course from the black tees with a 7 iron and an umbrella and lap them, and most likely beat them as well. My only 2 questions for a group like that are 1) what game are you playing? and 2) do you play for money? I have also been tempted to hand out free copies of the rule book

dewilson58
08-14-2015, 07:31 AM
In 45 years of playing this game, I think I've seen it all---from a "golfer" taking 3 minutes to line up and practice swing his 11th shot to driving over to an adjacent hole to start a 5 minute conversation with a friend.
Perhaps too many are taking cues from the pros---they think a pro is good because he takes extra time, when in reality he takes extra time because he is good. He also has to make a living at this game, and he conversation with his caddy is not about last night's performance at the Sharon.
I live on EP, and have watched golfers come to the tee with the hole open, stand on the tee have some kind of 5 min discussion, then walk back to their carts to get their drivers. They then hit 2 mulligans each, with 3 practice swings before each one, then repeat the process from the fairway. I could play that course from the black tees with a 7 iron and an umbrella and lap them, and most likely beat them as well. My only 2 questions for a group like that are 1) what game are you playing? and 2) do you play for money? I have also been tempted to hand out free copies of the rule book


Next time you see this group, wave at the group behind them..........I"M IN IT!!!!

:icon_wink:

golfing eagles
08-14-2015, 07:39 AM
Next time you see this group, wave at the group behind them..........I"M IN IT!!!!

:icon_wink:

And I'm 2 holes back with 4 foursomes on par 4. I can't see why people get angry with an ambassador, unless they are that first group :ohdear:

DonH57
08-14-2015, 08:25 AM
On occasion I've seen a few good golfers on the executive courses who seem to breeze right through the course at lightning speed. I was always under the impression championship courses are for the most experienced golfers due to distance and difficulty and executive courses are designed at different levels to build players ability.

tomwed
08-14-2015, 08:41 AM
On occasion I've seen a few good golfers on the executive courses who seem to breeze right through the course at lightning speed. I was always under the impression championship courses are for the most experienced golfers due to distance and difficulty and executive courses are designed at different levels to build players ability.
I don't think so. Champs are just as easy if you play from the "Friendly Tees" and depending on the hole maybe even easier.

Last year I went to a family reunion where the guys golf everyday. Well most of the guys don't golf very much at all back home. So the first time we got to the course I told everyone that where I live now the closest tees are not ladies only, in fact the closest tees are called "Friendly Tees" and since we are all friendly, on this vacation we will play from the closest tes. It was so much more fun for everyone that way.

billethkid
08-14-2015, 08:54 AM
The only difference between "good" golfers and the rest of us and the Championship or Executive courses is about 6 inches.......(average space between the ears!).

:)

l2ridehd
08-14-2015, 08:57 AM
I play both and enjoy them for different reasons. I always play the executive from the black tees and some of the courses are hard to score well on. Pelican, Redfish Run and a few others. My handicap goes up and down dramatically depending on how my back is feeling that day/month.

VApeople
08-14-2015, 12:31 PM
Dear OP: In retrospect I regret my comments. Its not me because we were reared to understand the importance of humility and so one never flashes their wealth or their handicaps or their.......... Rereading your comments that was not your intent. I moved too quickly. My apology

Personal Best Regards:

Thanks for the apology, Rubicon. In a discussion group like this, it is easy to misunderstand what a person says. I can understand if you visualized me sitting back in a soft chair, brandy in hand, and with my nose so high in the air that I would drown in a rainstorm.

As I said before, I am glad to hear how much you all enjoy the Exec courses, but it is too bad that the slow play of some people detracts from the experience.

Has anyone ever proposed a workable solution to the problem of slow play? For example, having a time when people are told they must play fairly quickly? Of course, then it has to be enforced, and that can cause hard feelings - at least that is what happened where I play.

tomwed
08-14-2015, 01:13 PM
Thanks for the apology, Rubicon. In a discussion group like this, it is easy to misunderstand what a person says. I can understand if you visualized me sitting back in a soft chair, brandy in hand, and with my nose so high in the air that I would drown in a rainstorm.

As I said before, I am glad to hear how much you all enjoy the Exec courses, but it is too bad that the slow play of some people detracts from the experience.

Has anyone ever proposed a workable solution to the problem of slow play? For example, having a time when people are told they must play fairly quickly? Of course, then it has to be enforced, and that can cause hard feelings - at least that is what happened where I play.
It's addressed to the point of it sounding like a broken record with opinions all over the place just like any other thread. You have some in the "live and let live", life is too short side and others who would want fast play rigorously enforced by the ambassadors handing out red cards.

Where I'm from in South Jersey I think the public courses would overbook. The private courses until 10 years ago had a female policy about when women could play. It was an unusual course where the tee off times were on schedule and you finished 18 holes in around 4 hours. Down here, more than likely you might go out before your scheduled time. I can't remember being stalled on the first tee, teeing off late because of slow play. Considering all the beginners, they must be doing something right.

golfing eagles
08-14-2015, 01:13 PM
,..... but it is too bad that the slow play of some people detracts from the experience.

Has anyone ever proposed a workable solution to the problem of slow play? For example, having a time when people are told they must play fairly quickly? Of course, then it has to be enforced, and that can cause hard feelings - at least that is what happened where I play.

There are ambassadors, but they don't really have any on the spot enforcement authority. They are supposed to have a slow group pick up and move to the next tee, but apparently get very little backing from TV golf. I suppose if there is a chronic offender, or someone routinely rude to the ambassador, someone higher up the food chain may deal with it.
We could require mandatory "good golf school", but it will probably fall on deaf ears. There are those, not many, who feel "entitled" to hold everyone else up to play slow, or talk, or repeat shots because "they paid for it", like everyone else didn't. These people are everywhere, just lucky not so much in TV

dillywho
08-14-2015, 01:25 PM
As to OP's original question, my guess would be most people hate the execs. That's why they've only recorded a million rounds so far this year ( 1.8 million rounds on all courses together).

Rather than a "hate" of the execs, could all the reduced play on all courses together possibly be attributable more to this year's weather? I don't know of too many who like to play on courses with roped off holes due to excess water or 106-degree heat indices. This summer has been brutal! (Not any too safe or advisable for the aging population, meaning 60+, either.)

Nancy Lopez once remarked that she was glad that she didn't have to play Pelican on tour!:)

dillywho
08-14-2015, 01:25 PM
As to OP's original question, my guess would be most people hate the execs. That's why they've only recorded a million rounds so far this year ( 1.8 million rounds on all courses together).

Rather than a "hate" of the execs, could all the reduced play on all courses together possibly be attributable more to this year's weather? I don't know of too many who like to play on courses with roped off holes due to excess water or 106-degree heat indices. This summer has been brutal! (Not any too safe or advisable for the aging population, meaning 60+, either.)

Nancy Lopez once remarked that she was glad that she didn't have to play Pelican on tour!:)

golfing eagles
08-14-2015, 01:30 PM
Rather than a "hate" of the execs, could all the reduced play on all courses together possibly be attributable more to this year's weather? I don't know of too many who like to play on courses with roped off holes due to excess water or 106-degree heat indices. This summer has been brutal! (Not any too safe or advisable for the aging population, meaning 60+, either.)

Nancy Lopez once remarked that she was glad that she didn't have to play Pelican on tour!:)

I think Mulligan might have been employing some sarcasm in his post.
1.8 million total rounds and not even 2/3 way through the year puts TV on track for the usual 3 million rounds

dillywho
08-14-2015, 01:34 PM
I think Mulligan might have been employing some sarcasm in his post.
1.8 million total rounds and not even 2/3 way through the year puts TV on track for the usual 3 million rounds

Ah so, missed it. Oops.

Dunno why mine posted twice, either. Sorry.:ohdear:

rubicon
08-14-2015, 02:22 PM
Wow...........we having a bad day?? Feels like you are talking to me directly and I'm not sure we have a written contract (your rule, not mine). Hope your day improves. Good news, it's FRIDAY!!

Dear dewilson:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Guess I am having a bad day I meant to keyboard " contact" and instead keyboarded " contract" Perhaps Saturday will be better

Personal Best Regards:

DonH57
08-14-2015, 02:29 PM
It's addressed to the point of it sounding like a broken record with opinions all over the place just like any other thread. You have some in the "live and let live", life is too short side and others who would want fast play rigorously enforced by the ambassadors handing out red cards.

Where I'm from in South Jersey I think the public courses would overbook. The private courses until 10 years ago had a female policy about when women could play. It was an unusual course where the tee off times were on schedule and you finished 18 holes in around 4 hours. Down here, more than likely you might go out before your scheduled time. I can't remember being stalled on the first tee, teeing off late because of slow play. Considering all the beginners, they must be doing something right.

I've never had a problem with starting late. If anything it seems lately we started out early and the starters have us on top group in front if us and by the time we reach the 6th hole we have a traffic jam.

dewilson58
08-14-2015, 06:16 PM
Dear dewilson:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Guess I am having a bad day I meant to keyboard " contact" and instead keyboarded " contract" Perhaps Saturday will be better

Personal Best Regards:

Rubi, Rubi, Rubi, do ya love me?
Rubi, Rubi, Rubi, do ya care?
Rubi, Rubi, are ya thinkin' of me?
Rubi, Rubi, will ya still be there?

We had so much fun together
I was sure that you were mine
But leavin' you, baby, is drivin' me crazy
It's got me wonderin' all the time.

:bigbow:

tomwed
08-14-2015, 08:37 PM
I've never had a problem with starting late. If anything it seems lately we started out early and the starters have us on top group in front if us and by the time we reach the 6th hole we have a traffic jam.
I think if it were up to the starters they would have groups wait until they know from experience that later on groups won't bunch up. Beginners are anxious and don't know enough to take that in consideration so they want to start as soon as possible as if it was a roller coaster and the big hill is first.

Policy tells you to get there 1/2 hour early. Some people follow the rules and maybe that's why they are anxious to get started because they have been standing around for a 1/2 hour or more.

Polar Bear
08-14-2015, 09:42 PM
...Policy tells you to get there 1/2 hour early...

What policy is that? I think half that is plenty if you're ready to go.

tomwed
08-14-2015, 10:26 PM
I was trying to suggest why starters would send a group out earlier than they should or would if they knew everyone standing by their carts were experienced and understood how pacing works over 9 holes.

I don't think I manufactured one half hour early but I cannot find it or any policies in writing.


How come I can't find any policies in writing about etiquette and local rules? Can somebody give me a link? With all the talk and advice on this site and all the golfing going on why is it that you need to go to golf school or ask a golf staff member to get answers?

Kind of Off Topic---but this is a pet peeve of mine.
Environmental Areas
I respect Environmental Areas and might use a retriever if I can see the ball but I never go in a restricted area like others I have seen. When I do bring up the subject that the penalty for going in a restricted area may be a fine over $200, golfers are shocked. I don't think that fine is posted and it should be. What is posted is that you may be asked to leave the course. That sounds like the worst that could happen is being sent to the principal's office, a slap on the wrist.

rubicon
08-15-2015, 04:52 AM
Rubi, Rubi, Rubi, do ya love me?
Rubi, Rubi, Rubi, do ya care?
Rubi, Rubi, are ya thinkin' of me?
Rubi, Rubi, will ya still be there?

We had so much fun together
I was sure that you were mine
But leavin' you, baby, is drivin' me crazy
It's got me wonderin' all the time.

:bigbow:

Dee: Before I proceed, I hope you are a girl :1rotfl:because otherwise I'd get bit queasy with this conversation. I do love and care about people and always take an interest in them. As part of my job I counseled employees and based on performance evaluations, etc I was decent at it. So if we had a bad start let's let bygones be bygones..life is too short and I don't want enemies in heaven because then it won't be heaven.

Personal Best Regards:

fred53
08-15-2015, 07:52 AM
Dee: Before I proceed, I hope you are a girl :1rotfl:because otherwise I'd get bit queasy with this conversation. I do love and care about people and always take an interest in them. As part of my job I counseled employees and based on performance evaluations, etc I was decent at it. So if we had a bad start let's let bygones be bygones..life is too short and I don't want enemies in heaven because then it won't be heaven.

Personal Best Regards:


try to focus...it's a golf discussion...might want to keep the personal stuff to direct messages to the person in lieu of too much information here...

yabbadu
08-15-2015, 07:57 AM
Well your comments come across as elitist. Its like asking if homely people can find love

WOW, Someone needs more sleep!

tomwed
08-15-2015, 09:39 AM
How come I can't find any policies in writing about etiquette and local rules? Can somebody give me a link? With all the talk and advice on this site and all the golfing going on why is it that you need to go to golf school or ask a golf staff member to get answers?

Kind of Off Topic---but this is a pet peeve of mine.
Environmental Areas
I respect Environmental Areas and might use a retriever if I can see the ball but I never go in a restricted area like others I have seen. When I do bring up the subject that the penalty for going in a restricted area may be a fine over $200, golfers are shocked. I don't think that fine is posted and it should be. What is posted is that you may be asked to leave the course. That sounds like the worst that could happen is being sent to the principal's office, a slap on the wrist.

DonH57
08-15-2015, 09:52 AM
I have recently seen pamphlets at the starter shacks covering good golf practices. I don't know if all execs have them. Golfthevillages.com have it on their site.

tomwed
08-15-2015, 10:58 AM
I have recently seen pamphlets at the starter shacks covering good golf practices. I don't know if all execs have them. Golfthevillages.com have it on their site.
I must have lost my ability to see information on the screen right in front of me. Where is good golf practices on the golfthevillages.com site?

dewilson58
08-15-2015, 11:01 AM
try to focus...it's a golf discussion...might want to keep the personal stuff to direct messages to the person in lieu of too much information here...

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter
08-15-2015, 11:34 AM
I must have lost my ability to see information on the screen right in front of me. Where is good golf practices on the golfthevillages.com site?

This is from the Good Golf GuidePDF, that appears on the golfthevillages.com site.

Successful Start
Please arrive at the course in time for registration, 20 minutes prior to your scheduled tee time.

tomwed
08-15-2015, 11:50 AM
This is from the Good Golf GuidePDF, that appears on the golfthevillages.com site.

Successful Start
Please arrive at the course in time for registration, 20 minutes prior to your scheduled tee time.

thank-you
http://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/GoodGolfGuide.pdf
I'm going to read it. I suspect I did years ago but I don't remember as well as I use to either. What a wealth of information. Do the ambassadors carry these? I think if I had the job and someone was not following the guidelines that would be a good time to explain the role of an ambassador and hand-out the pamphlet.

ps I read through it and I didn't see anything about environmentally protected areas or possible fines. Did I not see that too even though it was in front of me?

Bogie Shooter
08-15-2015, 01:43 PM
thank-you
http://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/GoodGolfGuide.pdf
I'm going to read it. I suspect I did years ago but I don't remember as well as I use to either. What a wealth of information. Do the ambassadors carry these? I think if I had the job and someone was not following the guidelines that would be a good time to explain the role of an ambassador and hand-out the pamphlet.

ps I read through it and I didn't see anything about environmentally protected areas or possible fines. Did I not see that too even though it was in front of me?
I think that is posted at the starter shacks.

rubicon
08-15-2015, 03:00 PM
try to focus...it's a golf discussion...might want to keep the personal stuff to direct messages to the person in lieu of too much information here...

so why are you off discussion on this thread rather than a PM?

rubicon
08-15-2015, 03:02 PM
WOW, Someone needs more sleep!

you apparently skip over a number of posts you are late to the party

tomwed
08-15-2015, 07:03 PM
I think that is posted at the starter shacks.
I've read the warnings at the newer courses. The pamphlet is 5 years old maybe that's why.

DARFAP
08-16-2015, 03:25 PM
I (10) like the execs for working on short game shots. I prefer to play the CC courses using different tees for each round.

fred53
08-16-2015, 07:52 PM
so why are you off discussion on this thread rather than a PM?

one of those people....trolling till a minuscule miscue is found that can be pounced upon...thus impressing the hoards that follow every post...I am suitably impressed...I'm busted! Don't forget to report this post...

:pepper2:

JohnFromMaine
09-17-2015, 05:59 PM
I've played off and on since I was a kid but have never played as good as I have over the past two years. My handicap is now 23.8 but was down to 22.4 last year. My best par 36 championship 9 hole round is 40, 18 hole round is 87 and my best executive par 28 round is 30.

I play 5 plus months in The Villages and 6 plus months in Maine where I only play championship courses.

I've played all 3 courses at Mallory, Havana, Bonifay and Evans plus a couple other 9's. I like Havana best but all are interesting and challenging. I'm a great believer in the rule of thumb; play from the tee where you can reach the green in regulation, so I play from the whites. I've played all of the executives, except Briarwood, and do have some favorites. Yankee Clipper, Truman, Bogart & Bacall, Palmetto, and Tarpon Boil. On the exec's I play the gold tees as I just want to have fun while working on my fairway and short games. I've noticed that some of the older exec's are flatter and the newer ones more challenging. However, they all provide a good game. My rough schedule is two exec 9's and one championship 9 a week but sometime play more often.

No matter who you are and what level your game is at, play to have fun, get some exercise, enjoy the company of your fellow players, the course, and the weather. Forget the bad shots, Lord knows we all have 'em, and remember to good ones which we all have as well. The good shots not only keep you coming back but prove that you can do it.

Overall, The Villages does a great job maintaining our courses so I, for one, try my best to respect that and sand my divots, rake sand traps, and properly repair ball marks, often more then mine, on greens. We are very lucky to have found such a great place in The Villages.

dbussone
09-17-2015, 06:02 PM
I've played off and on since I was a kid but have never played as good as I have over the past two years. My handicap is now 23.8 but was down to 22.4 last year. My best par 36 championship 9 hole round is 40, 18 hole round is 87 and my best executive par 28 round is 30.



I play 5 plus months in The Villages and 6 plus months in Maine where I only play championship courses.



I've played all 3 courses at Mallory, Havana, Bonifay and Evans plus a couple other 9's. I like Havana best but all are interesting and challenging. I'm a great believer in the rule of thumb; play from the tee where you can reach the green in regulation, so I play from the whites. I've played all of the executives, except Briarwood, and do have some favorites. Yankee Clipper, Truman, Bogart & Bacall, Palmetto, and Tarpon Boil. On the exec's I play the gold tees as I just want to have fun while working on my fairway and short games. I've noticed that some of the older exec's are flatter and the newer ones more challenging. However, they all provide a good game. My rough schedule is two exec 9's and one championship 9 a week but sometime play more often.



No matter who you are and what level your game is at, play to have fun, get some exercise, enjoy the company of your fellow players, the course, and the weather. Forget the bad shots, Lord knows we all have 'em, and remember to good ones which we all have as well. The good shots not only keep you coming back but prove that you can do it.



Overall, The Villages does a great job maintaining our courses so I, for one, try my best to respect that and sand my divots, rake sand traps, and properly repair ball marks, often more then mine, on greens. We are very lucky to have found such a great place in The Villages.


From one DownEaster to another, well done. Have you ever played Norway Country Club in Norway ME or the ocean course at the Samoset Inn?

fred53
09-17-2015, 07:57 PM
From one DownEaster to another, well done. Have you ever played Norway Country Club in Norway ME or the ocean course at the Samoset Inn?

as well as Purpoodock, Webhannet, Portland CC, Bidd&Saco, DutchElm, Dunegrass, York, Falmouth, etc. All fun courses


from Saco...

dbussone
09-17-2015, 08:15 PM
My uncle was the principle at Oxford High School. In the summer he was the pro at Norway Country Club in the '70s and '80s.

kcrazorbackfan
09-17-2015, 09:35 PM
Both the Execs and the Championships offer something for everyone. I just started back playing today from shoulder surgery 12 weeks ago today and the execs will be great for helping me get my timing back.