Coyotes in Hemingway

[ducati1974]

I was walking my little dog tonight at 10:30 and encountered two coyotes running down the street near the intersection of O'Dell Circle and Alcove Loop.
One of them stopped across the street from me and I shined my light on him.
The other I lost track of but when I got home on Joiner Place there he was right next to my neighbors house. I've been walking this area at night for almost a year and this was a first for me. Definitely concerns me for the future!

[tomwed]

I did a TOTV search for coyote and only got 3 hits, 3 threads. It doesn't seem like this would be a new problem. Either that of the search function doesn't go back very far.

That must be it. When I searched for alligators I only got 8 hits.

[rubicon]

I was walking my little dog tonight at 10:30 and encountered two coyotes running down the street near the intersection of O'Dell Circle and Alcove Loop.
One of them stopped across the street from me and I shined my light on him.
The other I lost track of but when I got home on Joiner Place there he was right next to my neighbors house. I've been walking this area at night for almost a year and this was a first for me. Definitely concerns me for the future!

perhaps people should be carrying mace or something similar with them when they walk their dogs early on or late evening? Frankly if it were me i carried that wasp spray that carries some 20 feet

[asianthree]

perhaps people should be carrying mace or something similar with them when they walk their dogs early on or late evening? Frankly if it were me i carried that wasp spray that carries some 20 feet

Never thought about wasp spray.

[PaPaLarry]

Never thought about wasp spray.
Not sure that's going to work, when you have more then one coyote. Do they form packs?

[Taltarzac725]

I did a TOTV search for coyote and only got 3 hits, 3 threads. It doesn't seem like this would be a new problem. Either that of the search function doesn't go back very far.

That must be it. When I searched for alligators I only got 8 hits.

I got ten hits when I did an advanced search on my name and "coyote".

Wasp spray sounds like a very good idea.

It sounds like some coyotes in the Villages are getting a lot braver around people. So, some Villagers may want to carry more defensive objects-- like the wasp spray-- than the whistles and such I should have soon.

Are coyotes protected in this area? If not maybe some trappers should be alerted about the problem by the Villages Community Development Districts?

FAQs: Coyote (Canis latrans) (http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/mammals/land/coyote/faqs/)


What should I do if I’m approached by a coyote?
Coyotes are not large animals and rarely pose a threat to people, especially adults. Using common sense around coyotes and other carnivores is the best protection against having problems. If a coyote approaches closely, immediately use a noisemaker or shout at the coyote and wave your arms. A solid walking stick, or a golf club, is a powerful deterrent at close range. Throwing stones, a strong spray from a water hose, pepper spray, or a paintball gun also can be good deterrents. A “coyote shaker” or an air horn can be effective noisemakers. You can make a coyote shaker by placing a few washers, pebbles or pennies in an empty drink container.

[DonH57]

Just don't carry it to the square or we'll have another story to talk about! Then there will be a 7 day waiting period for wasp spray.

[Taltarzac725]

Just don't carry it to the square or we'll have another story to talk about! Then there will be a 7 day waiting period for wasp spray.

The coyote shakers are real easy to make.

I talked to a neighbor with a CWL and he uses snake loads in a .38 pistol. I am very uncomfortable around handguns so this would never be an option for me.

[Jima64]

My knees would be shaking enough if I were walking and saw a coyote during the day. Not a evening walker anymore. They are probably adjusting to people and the available free food being presented to,them in feral cats and dogs.

[Laurie2]

I got ten hits when I did an advanced search on my name and "coyote".

Wasp spray sounds like a very good idea.

It sounds like some coyotes in the Villages are getting a lot braver around people. So, some Villagers may want to carry more defensive objects-- like the wasp spray-- than the whistles and such I should have soon.

Are coyotes protected in this area? If not maybe some trappers should be alerted about the problem by the Villages Community Development Districts?

FAQs: Coyote (Canis latrans) (http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/mammals/land/coyote/faqs/)



Tal, your link here to the Florida Wildlife Commission information on coyotes is excellent. I hope a lot of people read it.

I really hope Villagers will educate themselves about coyotes. I think coyotes are here to stay. Food and places to hide. And I can't think of any natural predators they would have to worry about. When war was waged on wolves years ago, coyotes thrived. Coyotes are smart and adapt easily. They can breed with wolves and dogs. (Coydogs) Breeding with dogs is relatively rare but it happens. I have heard coydogs are nuts. But that is just a rumor. I don't think TV dogs are in danger of being courted -- that is the least of their coyote worries.

Maybe there is a club in TV that can contact a speaker for a program to educate about coyotes. Meanwhile, I really do think that Villagers need to be careful about taking their pets for a walk at night or early in the morning. Coyotes can show up at any time, but they are opportunists. The number of sightings recently speaks clearly that they are out there among us. We have to be smart, too.

[tomwed]

My last home was in the Pine Barrens of south jersey, no coyotes that anyone talked about but many racoons. So it surprised me when I got down here that people put out their garbage in plastic bags the night before. Why isn't that a problem? Aren't there scavengers around here tearing into the bags?

[Taltarzac725]

Tal, your link here to the Florida Wildlife Commission information on coyotes is excellent. I hope a lot of people read it.

I really hope Villagers will educate themselves about coyotes. I think coyotes are here to stay. Food and places to hide. And I can't think of any natural predators they would have to worry about. When war was waged on wolves years ago, coyotes thrived. Coyotes are smart and adapt easily. They can breed with wolves and dogs. (Coydogs) Breeding with dogs is relatively rare but it happens. I have heard coydogs are nuts. But that is just a rumor. I don't thing TV dogs are in danger of being courted -- that is the least of their coyote worries.

Maybe there is a club in TV that can contact a speaker for a program to educate about coyotes. Meanwhile, I really do think that Villagers need to be careful about taking their pets for a walk at night or early in the morning. Coyotes can show up at any time, but they are opportunists. The number of sightings recently speaks clearly that they are out there among us. We have to be smart, too.

I do think coyotes will adapt with whatever we throw at them like noisemakers and the like. Not so much with any lethal force being involved. I have not used lethal force against anything since giving up hunting in 1974 or so. This was when I was 15 and used to hang around with rural area youth who had a lot of guns and loved to hunt.

I talked to a lady yesterday who had a friend who fought off a coyote attack in her immediate neighborhood by kicking it. It got the neighbor of my friend's dog in its mouth by the neck. She managed to rescue the dog but its neck had been mangled too much for it to ever recover. She had to put the pooch down.

Trapping nuisance coyotes-- those that have lost their fear of people-- might be a really good solution with traps set in areas near homes but away from where a loose dog might get snagged.

[Taltarzac725]

My last home was in the Pine Barrens of south jersey, no coyotes that anyone talked about but many racoons. So it surprised me when I got down here that people put out their garbage in plastic bags the night before. Why isn't that a problem? Aren't there scavengers around here tearing into the bags?

Not many racoons in this area of Florida. Feral cats but the coyotes seem to have gotten a lot of those.

[tomwed]

Not many racoons in this area of Florida. Feral cats but the coyotes seem to have gotten a lot of those.So the feral cats go for the garbage and the coyotes ignore the garbage and go for the feral cats? I find it surprising. Even bears go after garbage, not that there should be something new to worry about.

[Taltarzac725]

So the feral cats go for the garbage and the coyotes ignore the garbage and go for the feral cats? I find it surprising. Even bears go after garbage, not that there should be something new to worry about.

Maybe it is different in other neighborhoods but we have had hardly any problems with garbage torn open. I do find a chicken bone on the ground every so often after garbage days so it must happen sometimes in the area but is cleaned up before I am out-and-about.

The chicken bones are probably much more of a threat to the dogs out being walked than the coyotes.

[Sandtrap328]

"Trapping nuisance coyotes-- those that have lost their fear of people-- might be a really good solution with traps set in areas near homes but away from where a loose dog might get snagged. "

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I know if I was walking around The Villages and saw a coyote trap, I would throw something in it to spring the trap before a coyote got trapped. Leave the wildlife alone! Walk your dogs on a short leash, carry a loud air horn or can of wasp spray to use if you see something going to attack you. Carrying a pistol is ridiculous. I also know if I would see someone shoot at something, I would be calling 911 right away.

[Taltarzac725]

"Trapping nuisance coyotes-- those that have lost their fear of people-- might be a really good solution with traps set in areas near homes but away from where a loose dog might get snagged. "

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I know if I was walking around The Villages and saw a coyote trap, I would throw something in it to spring the trap before a coyote got trapped. Leave the wildlife alone! Walk your dogs on a short leash, carry a loud air horn or can of wasp spray to use if you see something going to attack you. Carrying a pistol is ridiculous. I also know if I would see someone shoot at something, I would be calling 911 right away.

I doubt if a trapper would put it where you could see it as she would not want some person walking near it.

I too find carrying a gun to shoot a coyote kind of strange but these people seem willing to live with whatever consequences come their way and with the gun culture in Florida and elsewhere they could be celebrated for such an act rather than jailed.

Balancing a dog's life against that of a coyote though I am going to go with that of the dog every time.

[Hopeful2]

"Trapping nuisance coyotes-- those that have lost their fear of people-- might be a really good solution with traps set in areas near homes but away from where a loose dog might get snagged. "

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I know if I was walking around The Villages and saw a coyote trap, I would throw something in it to spring the trap before a coyote got trapped. Leave the wildlife alone! Walk your dogs on a short leash, carry a loud air horn or can of wasp spray to use if you see something going to attack you. Carrying a pistol is ridiculous. I also know if I would see someone shoot at something, I would be calling 911 right away.


I doubt you are a dog owner. If a beloved pet, on a short leash, was attacked by another animal, you would feel a whole lot differently. It happened to two different dogs I owned (years apart). Awful does not even begin to describe it. I am so thankful that each survived the attack.

I do not believe that using a pistol in a residential area is the answer. However, I fully support trapping of animals that can and do cause harm.

[tomwed]

Maybe it is different in other neighborhoods but we have had hardly any problems with garbage torn open. I do find a chicken bone on the ground every so often after garbage days so it must happen sometimes in the area but is cleaned up before I am out-and-about.

The chicken bones are probably much more of a threat to the dogs out being walked than the coyotes.
I guess garbagemen are the people to ask. But I think if there were scavengers including coyotes of any significant amount we wouldn't be putting out the garbage in plastic bags the night before.

[Sandtrap328]

I doubt you are a dog owner. If a beloved pet, on a short leash, was attacked by another animal, you would feel a whole lot differently. It happened to two different dogs I owned (years apart). Awful does not even begin to describe it. I am so thankful that each survived the attack.

I do not believe that using a pistol in a residential area is the answer. However, I fully support trapping of animals that can and do cause harm.


Sorry for your experience, of course. Just curious, though, what kind of animals attacked your two dogs?

[HimandMe]

Are coyotes known to go after small children or are they left alone?

[Taltarzac725]

Are coyotes known to go after small children or are they left alone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_attacks_on_humans

It has happened but is extremely rare.

[mwatt000]

You don't see too many small children in TV do you?

[Wing-nut2]

The Villages need to hire a trapper.

[John_W]

I've always heard that if you go down Rolling Acres Rd to Micro-Racetrack Rd at night, you'll see cayotes for sure or at least see their eyes in your headlights. That's probably why they usually show up on the eastern side of TV such as Hemingway. You have all that open ground due to the powerlines and they just head west to find some garbage or small prey. Just yesterday on top of our villa wall was a good size bird, a hawk or something, and he was eating something big for quite a while. It looked like it might of been a rabbit.

[Justus]

The Villages need to hire a trapper.

I agree. Not only will coyotes attack humans, especially small humans, they are stealthy and lightning fast, and will snap the neck of small prey and be gone before you are able to respond.

In the rural neighborhood where we once lived, they were prevalent and would travel in packs. A neighbor watched helplessly as his cat was carried off by the nape of the neck. They are difficult to see at pre-dawn or twilight and will enter a garage or yard through an open gate. While they don't usually come out in broad daylight, I myself was with a foursome on a golf course green, approached by a coyote, possibly looking for food.

If you look at the entire Wikipedia page, you will see hundreds of news stories of coyote attacks on humans. They are beautiful animals, but their presence is not to be taken lightly. They will go wherever they can find easy prey.

[dbussone]

The Villages need to hire a trapper.


For small children?

[cbv0211]

Coyotes in Hemingway are not new -- they've been here for years. I've seen them on the golf courses in early evening and at the retention pond on the corner of Canal and Odell in the early morning. I've never felt threatened by one and they were very skittish. I'm not a dog owner but is it possible to walk your dog when it is not dark out?

[CFrance]

Coyotes in Hemingway are not new -- they've been here for years. I've seen them on the golf courses in early evening and at the retention pond on the corner of Canal and Odell in the early morning. I've never felt threatened by one and they were very skittish. I'm not a dog owner but is it possible to walk your dog when it is not dark out?
It depends on how hot it is, the temperature of the pavement, and each dog's tolerance for heat. Too, if you are seeing coyotes in the early morning, that's a daylight problem.

I used to walk our dog a few miles after dark due to his intolerance for heat. I don't do that anymore. If it's not poisonous frogs in the street, snakes in the bushes, or alligators roaming, it's now coyotes.

[Mishy]

Large coyote in Virginia Trace yesterday. At pool, in our back yards, walking down the street. Undaunted by loud noises. HERE'S the kicker: I called 911 who gave me the Wild Game Commission's phone number. A representative told me info about coyotes, and said if I wanted to get rid of it I could eithet SHOOT it or hire someone to catch it. They wiped their hands of responsibility. Anyone want to form a group to encourage The Villages to take responsibility? Email me at ussmichele@gmail.com
Just call me Annie Oakley!

[Taltarzac725]

Large coyote in Virginia Trace yesterday. At pool, in our back yards, walking down the street. Undaunted by loud noises. HERE'S the kicker: I called 911 who gave me the Wild Game Commission's phone number. A representative told me info about coyotes, and said if I wanted to get rid of it I could eithet SHOOT it or hire someone to catch it. They wiped their hands of responsibility. Anyone want to form a group to encourage The Villages to take responsibility? Email me at ussmichele@gmail.com
Just call me Annie Oakley!

Unbelievable that they just out and said you could shoot it. You cannot discharge a firearm in FL except if it does not cross a road. There would be the various exceptions. A farmer could shoot it on his or her property as long as the bullet travels down into the ground or into some backstop on their property. Check Florida Statutes 790.15 The farmer could kill the coyote though if it were after one of his animals.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.15.html)

[Mishy]

By the way, we do own a small dog. And for the person who asked if we could maybe not walk the dog at night, that's like asking us to hold it all night. Perhaps they make Depends for dogs!

[Taltarzac725]

I bought a very loud whistle. Keep Doggie Safe | Doggone Best Site For Dog Safety | (http://KeepDoggieSafe.com)

Dog Whistle, Keychain Dog Whistle, Dog Whistle to Call Dogs,www.keepdoggiesafe.com (http://www.keepdoggiesafe.com/dog-whistle.html)

Coach and police whistles would probably work too. Coach Lanyards, Whistles & Air Horns | DICK'S Sporting Goods (http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/products/air-horns.jsp)


These did not work???? I have a wood shoehorn that my neighbor made for me-- and many other people as he loves whittling-- which might make a good weapon of sorts. A golf club though might be a better idea?

[tomwed]

This might be a good time to learn how to play a horn. I wonder if that's how the Mummers got started. There's no coyotes in Philly.

[Paper1]

Traveling south on Buena Vista at 7PM tonight my wife and I saw 3 coyotes on the Torri Pine golf course between a trap and water hazard.

[kittygilchrist]

Copied from thread on dog snatched.
Please see the procedure below for dealing with nuisance wildlife. I think you are misinformed about shooting it yourself, but will find out tomorrow. I agree there is a pack. I was told that when one is taken, the rest often go away, but Hope they set traps in several locations.

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Originally Posted by suzdief View Post
I'm in the Village of Caroline. Saw a coyote Thursday night at 10:00 pm when I took my dog out. My neighbor saw one several weeks ago (probably the same one) and after that another neighbor's two cat went missing. This is happening a little too much lately and I think something needs to be done about it.
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I agree, Suz...
I did some research...

Coyotes are listed as nuisance wildlife with Fish and Wildlife and can be trapped for a fee of $75, I was told by a local trapper who takes nuisance gators here.
With 3 animals taken by an apparent nuisance carnivore, I think we should take action. The best I can determine after ofc hours, is that Dave Burgess, VCDD Property Mgt, is the go to guy to make a complaint.

I know there is a history of both wild hogs and gators being removed from TV.
Below is contact info for Burgess. I hope those of you with first hand info will call or email him.

Phone 352-753-4508, please! Or use email in this website:

VCDD District Property Management
VCDD District Property Management (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/District-Property-Management/district-property-management.aspx)

And please post any future sightings to this thread or start another one.

[BS Beef]

for small children?

Chitty Chitty bang bang style?
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