Common Courtesy

[greenhillsgirl]

A few days ago I went to the Sharon for the 5th and final presentation of Summer Orchestra, and had great seats. Ten minutes before the show began, a number of people came to their seats two rows in front of me. The perfume and/or cologne was overwhelming. I was coughing and the lady next to me said she was forced to leave at intermission at another show because of the same problem. I saw a man sitting near me fanning himself with the program guide. Same situation in the movie theatre. Don't these people get it? Does anyone else feel like I do?

[Inexes@aol.com]

How these people have lived long enough to retire baffles me. And I bet they really complain if someone lights a cigarette near them. The articles written on this subject number in the thousands..... do they not read?? One day, someone near one of them will suffer a major, possibly fatal, asthma attack.... suppose that would wake them up????

[graciegirl]

I don't like cologne or perfume on folks. It is hard to know why THEY like it.

Is it more courteous to tell them that they stink or just hold your nose and say peeee-ewww? Or perhaps avoid public gatherings?

Perhaps tell an usher so he can deliver the bad news? I think writing it here is the best way. They will read it and change their ways. It has only happened to me twice in my eight years here in The Villages, so for me it isn't a common or reocurring problem.

CFrance. Wearing too much perfume is what my grandmother called a French bath.

[tomwed]

I'm lucky. I don't smell very good anymore. Having trouble with the hearing too. I'm saving up for hearing aids and smelling aids.

[kittygilchrist]

If you have severe allergies, should the world stop smelling according to you?
I feel for your pain. Can you expect the entire world to accommodate?
Sorry, as I know you suffer.
If I am offended by democrats expressing opinions, should they stop?
If I am allergic to dogs, should no one have them?
If You are my dear friend and I tell you that particular cologne you like gives me a headache? Yes, there is a reasonable request.
Please take steps to avoid public contact if you must, and know that if you demand that all people everywhere knowingly provoke your allergies, that this is...

perhaps a paranoid why-do-they-do-that-to-me perspective. No one wears a perfume in order to annoy you. They have no clue. Would your broadcast help you prevent future episodes? No.
The world is not going to adopt for its perspective as a never wear, whateverallergy is uniquely yours.

PS i have allergies, but I do not expect dogs, cats, grass, mold, dust, or people wearing perfume to stop being there.

[Barefoot]

A few days ago I went to the Sharon for the 5th and final presentation of Summer Orchestra, and had great seats. Ten minutes before the show began, a number of people came to their seats two rows in front of me. The perfume and/or cologne was overwhelming. I was coughing and the lady next to me said she was forced to leave at intermission at another show because of the same problem. I saw a man sitting near me fanning himself with the program guide. Same situation in the movie theatre. Don't these people get it? Does anyone else feel like I do?

I sympathize. I had that happen on a flight to Italy and I was trapped behind a lady who smelled like a .... Never mind.
Luckily I had allergy pills in my carry-on.

[BS Beef]

I'm lucky. I don't smell very good anymore. Having trouble with the hearing too. I'm saving up for hearing aids and smelling aids.

I had to read this twice, I couldn't figure out why as you felt lucky to smell bad. :1rotfl: Oops, I get it now.

[graciegirl]

When you snuggle into a hug with your best fella and he smells like Dove soap. Ahhhh
that is heavenly.

[rubicon]

A woman I worked with had a perfume that was enticing. I asked her for the name I bought it for my wife. In that same vein some perfumes, etc are not inviting or they are applied inappropriately.

I remember as a kid noticing that priests and nuns had just a clean to them. Perhaps the cleaning agents used on their clothing?

I stopped using after shave, etc when the public outcry began in the late 1980's

The most alluring aroma I ever experienced occurred outdoors in wine country when they were harvesting grapes and began making wine. You just want to continue breathing deeply

[jnieman]

A few days ago I went to the Sharon for the 5th and final presentation of Summer Orchestra, and had great seats. Ten minutes before the show began, a number of people came to their seats two rows in front of me. The perfume and/or cologne was overwhelming. I was coughing and the lady next to me said she was forced to leave at intermission at another show because of the same problem. I saw a man sitting near me fanning himself with the program guide. Same situation in the movie theatre. Don't these people get it? Does anyone else feel like I do?

I feel for you. I've had it happen in church on Easter Sunday. All of the perfume and flowers in the room. My throat closes up and I have trouble breathing when I am around strong perfumes. Those who it doesn't bother don't understand.

[zcaveman]

I don't like cologne or perfume on folks. It is hard to know why THEY like it.

Is it more courteous to tell them that they stink or just hold your nose and say peeee-ewww? Or perhaps avoid public gatherings?

Perhaps tell an usher so he can deliver the bad news? I think writing it here is the best way. They will read it and change their ways. It has only happened to me twice in my eight years here in The Villages, so for me it isn't a common or reocurring problem.

CFrance. Wearing too much perfume is what my grandmother called a French bath.

You can write it here all you want but if they are not members of TOTV they will not see it, and if they are members of TOTV and read it, they will say that's not me because I only use a little bit of perfume.

I have had people pass me on the street and in stores that cause me to gag because of the perfume overload.

Z

[CFrance]

I don't like cologne or perfume on folks. It is hard to know why THEY like it.

Is it more courteous to tell them that they stink or just hold your nose and say peeee-ewww? Or perhaps avoid public gatherings?

Perhaps tell an usher so he can deliver the bad news? I think writing it here is the best way. They will read it and change their ways. It has only happened to me twice in my eight years here in The Villages, so for me it isn't a common or reocurring problem.

CFrance. Wearing too much perfume is what my grandmother called a French bath.
Ha ha! Thankfully, deodorant has become popular in Western Europe (phew!).

[Fredman]

If you have severe allergies, should the world stop smelling according to you?
I feel for your pain. Can you expect the entire world to accommodate?
Sorry, as I know you suffer.
If I am offended by democrats expressing opinions, should they stop?
If I am allergic to dogs, should no one have them?
If You are my dear friend and I tell you that particular cologne you like gives me a headache? Yes, there is a reasonable request.
Please take steps to avoid public contact if you must, and know that if you demand that all people everywhere knowingly provoke your allergies, that this is...

perhaps a paranoid why-do-they-do-that-to-me perspective. No one wears a perfume in order to annoy you. They have no clue. Would your broadcast help you prevent future episodes? No.
The world is not going to adopt for its perspective as a never wear, whateverallergy is uniquely yours.

PS i have allergies, but I do not expect dogs, cats, grass, mold, dust, or people wearing perfume to stop being there.

I don't expect the world to accommodate me but you don't have to bathe in the stuff

[CFrance]

If you have severe allergies, should the world stop smelling according to you?
I feel for your pain. Can you expect the entire world to accommodate?
Sorry, as I know you suffer.
If I am offended by democrats expressing opinions, should they stop?
If I am allergic to dogs, should no one have them?
If You are my dear friend and I tell you that particular cologne you like gives me a headache? Yes, there is a reasonable request.
Please take steps to avoid public contact if you must, and know that if you demand that all people everywhere knowingly provoke your allergies, that this is...

perhaps a paranoid why-do-they-do-that-to-me perspective. No one wears a perfume in order to annoy you. They have no clue. Would your broadcast help you prevent future episodes? No.
The world is not going to adopt for its perspective as a never wear, whateverallergy is uniquely yours.

PS i have allergies, but I do not expect dogs, cats, grass, mold, dust, or people wearing perfume to stop being there.
I sort of agree with you, but I don't have allergies, so I can't know to what extent perfume affects allergy sufferers. Therefore I don't wear it into public spaces where people are crowded together. (Church comes to mind, plus auditoriums, bus trips, and the like.) Wearing perfume is not so important to me to potentially subject others to suffering.

Otherwise, I decide how much to accommodate others based on "my rights." Maybe that's wrong, but that's where I agree with you, kitty. If it's really important to me, then all bets are off. For instance, I will not isolate my dog from public places because someone might be allergic. Nor will I isolate my pets if someone with allergies comes to the house.

And the peanut thing... On a recent flight, it was announced that nothing with peanuts would be served because there was one person on board with an allergy. One person in a plane of 250 passengers. Ridiculous. Restrict the people in his row.

[Fredman]

Do they have to bathe in the stuff

[greenhillsgirl]

Thanks Gracey. I think one should wear fragrance in smaller settings, if at all. When you pay 'good money' to hear great performances, you should be entitled, so to speak, to partake of just that.

[greenhillsgirl]

It really isn't about the allergies. I take meds for that every day. The fragrance simply was way to much

[Loudoll]

I read a bio by Robert Wagner in which he revealed that three of the women he loved deeply wore the same fragrance, Jungle Gardenia! This really messed with his mind for reasons we can well imagine but he didn't complain of allergies. First was Barbara Stanwyck, who was 24 years older than RW, later it was Elizabeth Taylor same age, and eventually Natalie Wood who was younger. Oh yes, I recommend this book, well written and he doesn't cheat the reader.

[Jima64]

Many years ago a young woman walked by me with just a hint of a wonderful soft perfume. So nice to enjoy the moment. Unfortunately I never asked what it was. Too much of any perfume would ruin what it is meant to do.

[twoplanekid]

I sort of agree with you, but I don't have allergies, so I can't know to what extent perfume affects allergy sufferers. Therefore I don't wear it into public spaces where people are crowded together. (Church comes to mind, plus auditoriums, bus trips, and the like.) Wearing perfume is not so important to me to potentially subject others to suffering.

Otherwise, I decide how much to accommodate others based on "my rights." Maybe that's wrong, but that's where I agree with you, kitty. If it's really important to me, then all bets are off. For instance, I will not isolate my dog from public places because someone might be allergic. Nor will I isolate my pets if someone with allergies comes to the house.

And the peanut thing... On a recent flight, it was announced that nothing with peanuts would be served because there was one person on board with an allergy. One person in a plane of 250 passengers. Ridiculous. Restrict the people in his row.


The other side is …
Several months ago my son asked the people in the seats in front of them to please not open a bag of peanut products because his one son traveling with him is highly allergic to peanuts. They seemed highly upset that they couldn’t eat their food in the plane during the short flight.

Now, he will not take either of his sons flying because he doesn’t want to create a scene on the plane. The safety of his one son who is highly allergic to peanuts is paramount and he doesn’t want that son to feel bad because of a condition he can’t control.

[CFrance]

The other side is …
Several months ago my son asked the people in the seats in front of them to please not open a bag of peanut products because his one son traveling with him is highly allergic to peanuts. They seemed highly upset that they couldn’t eat their food in the plane during the short flight.

Now, he will not take either of his sons flying because he doesn’t want to create a scene on the plane. The safety of his one son who is highly allergic to peanuts is paramount and he doesn’t want that son to feel bad because of a condition he can’t control.
I agree that is another side of the story. But for a whole plane to be inconvenienced for one person who is not the norm? What happened to epi pens?

[greenhillsgirl]

I also was on a flight that restricted peanuts being served. Most everyone respected that call...and you know, everyone brings a snack anyway. No big deal..a passenger did not have his/her life compromised.

[mgjim]

As a soldier, I spent several years in Korea and I used public transportation a lot. On particularly hot days during rush hour, the scent of garlic was really strong. I mentioned it to a friend of mine and asked him if he noticed it too. He said he hadn't but he said that Americans smelled strongly of old meat. You just never know what's coming out of your pores until you ask around.

[CFrance]

I also was on a flight that restricted peanuts being served. Most everyone respected that call...and you know, everyone brings a snack anyway. No big deal..a passenger did not have his/her life compromised.
My point was in answer to kittygilchrist's post #5. I think she raises some interesting questions.

[tomwed]

I wonder if I smell like old meat. The next time you go to the Sharon if you smell old meat just wave your hand for me. I'll know what it means.

[Xcuse]

I am not allergic but I have been "assaulted" by some overpowering perfumes worn by some people. It is generally an older person and I have been told that a persons sense of smell often diminishes as they age. Perhaps they don't realize how powerful the odor is to other people and it might help if a friend would mention that they don't need such a liberal application. As for strangers ...

[mgjim]

I wonder if I smell like old meat. The next time you go to the Sharon if you smell old meat just wave your hand for me. I'll know what it means.

I think it works better if you're on a city bus, with no air conditioning, and 100 degree heat. But, I'll be watching for you. :)

[twoplanekid]

I agree that is another side of the story. But for a whole plane to be inconvenienced for one person who is not the norm? What happened to epi pens?

While we carry epi pens with us for our 9 year old grandson, we do it with the understanding that

“EpiPen® and EpiPen Jr® Auto-Injectors are for the emergency treatment of life-threatening allergic reactions (anaphylaxis) caused by allergens, exercise, or unknown triggers; and for people who are at increased risk for these reactions. EpiPen® and EpiPen Jr® are intended for immediate administration as emergency supportive therapy only. Seek immediate emergency medical help right away”

Can’t do that while in flight.

I say this to let you know that epi pen use is to be followed by immediate emergency medical help. As I hate the long drive from Ohio to Florida, I am sorry my son has taken this stance but I understand his position. We will take our grandsons to and from Florida by car.

[TheVillageChicken]

As a soldier, I spent several years in Korea and I used public transportation a lot. On particularly hot days during rush hour, the scent of garlic was really strong. I mentioned it to a friend of mine and asked him if he noticed it too. He said he hadn't but he said that Americans smelled strongly of old meat. You just never know what's coming out of your pores until you ask around.

Been there, done that...Korea, that is, and I know what you are talking about.

Since my diet consists entirely of unicorn meat, I smell like cotton candy.

[tomwed]

I think it works better if you're on a city bus, with no air conditioning, and 100 degree heat. But, I'll be watching for you. :)

Remember, back in the day when you were at a concert and everyone is waving their arms back and forth with a cigarette lighter in their hands. I wonder if they were smelling old meat. I know a lighter can come in handy.

[graciegirl]

While we carry epi pens with us for our 9 year old grandson, we do it with the understanding that

“EpiPen® and EpiPen Jr® Auto-Injectors are for the emergency treatment of life-threatening allergic reactions (anaphylaxis) caused by allergens, exercise, or unknown triggers; and for people who are at increased risk for these reactions. EpiPen® and EpiPen Jr® are intended for immediate administration as emergency supportive therapy only. Seek immediate emergency medical help right away”

Can’t do that while in flight.

I say this to let you know that epi pen use is to be followed by immediate emergency medical help. As I hate the long drive from Ohio to Florida, I am sorry my son has taken this stance but I understand his position. We will take our grandsons to and from Florida by car.



If a child is endangered by a person eating peanuts in a small space than it is the parents responsibility to protect him from that danger. To me, that would mean driving rather than flying. Not all people truly understand the danger or know what Anaphalactic Shock is. One cannot count on their understanding or cooperation.


It is wise to let a child be aware of his condition and make sure that he knows that a medical condition does not lessen his worth or is reason for anyone to think differently about him. He must know so that he can protect himself. In my opinion anyway. Everyone runs their own railroad or flies their own plane.

[manaboutown]

When I was married my wife used perfume that smelled like weeds to me. She refused to change it. During that time I suffered frequent headaches. A divorce solved all of that!

[manaboutown]

As a soldier, I spent several years in Korea and I used public transportation a lot. On particularly hot days during rush hour, the scent of garlic was really strong. I mentioned it to a friend of mine and asked him if he noticed it too. He said he hadn't but he said that Americans smelled strongly of old meat. You just never know what's coming out of your pores until you ask around.

I'll take the smell of old meat any day compared to that of kimche. Pilots could smell it when flying over where it was being prepared.