Vice Presidential choice..make a difference ?

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TO ALL....

Will the choice of a Vice Presidential candidate influence your vote for President ?

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Probably not. I'm going to hold my nose and vote for McCain. The alternative is to scary. I sure hope he picks Romney, though.

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Yes! Whoever is picked for VP I believe is more important in this race than earlier ones. In McCain's case, it will make or break his support from the far right, and with Obama there is always the hold outs for Hillary who can make or break it for him. It will be interesting, to say the least!

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Yes!

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Johnny, can you hear me?

Who's the far right going to vote for? Call their bluff.

For the first time since I have been old enough to vote, I don't know if I can vote. I know. I know. It's bad. I hate feeling like this.

Obama? I been sweet-talked all my life.

It was my party and I'll cry if I want to.

What in the :edit: am I doing in a political thread tonight? I work so hard to stay out of these things. But Bucco, this is a hot question with me.

Boomer the Abandoned, the Forsaken, the Girl Out in the Cold

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Boomer, I fear we are all out in the cold.

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Johnny, can you hear me?

Who's the far right going to vote for? Call their bluff.

For the first time since I have been old enough to vote, I don't know if I can vote. I know. I know. It's bad. I hate feeling like this.

Obama? I been sweet-talked all my life.

It was my party and I'll cry if I want to.

What in the am I doing in a political thread tonight? I work so hard to stay out of these things. But Bucco, this is a hot question with me.

Boomer the Abandoned, the Forsaken, the Girl Out in the Cold
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I share a lot of your feelings but I am not sure if I can "not vote" ! I do think that the VP choice in both parties may have more of an impact than in the past, but not sure it is a deal breaker. If you have read any of my posts, you understand my fear of one candidate and I cannot imagine a VP choice allaying that fear (although I have always liked Joe Biden).

It is a tough presidential election, and a way to go yet. I forsee LOTS coming out of the woodwork once they get serious but it is not a great election cycle for sure.

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I share a lot of your feelings but I am not sure if I can "not vote" ! I do think that the VP choice in both parties may have more of an impact than in the past, but not sure it is a deal breaker. If you have read any of my posts, you understand my fear of one candidate and I cannot imagine a VP choice allaying that fear (although I have always liked Joe Biden).

It is a tough presidential election, and a way to go yet. I forsee LOTS coming out of the woodwork once they get serious but it is not a great election cycle for sure.


Bucco, as you know, I have been in your camp on this election, however I can't see that a VP will sway many voters, I think most have made up their minds by now. The whole election process has been going for so long that many people are just plain sick of all the hype by the media.

I also agree that a lot of "stuff" will be coming out in the next 10 weeks, and as the ole saying goes, you ain't seen notning yet...........

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I was almost afraid to look in during my morning coffee today. I was so afraid that somebody would have come in during the night and tried to cut and paste me until I could not even move. I was afraid I would be in real trouble. I try so hard to stay away from this forum.

But my heart, it is broken.

And while war is Hell, always has been, always will be, I do not begin to try to understand all that is associated there.

It is the economy.

There is a thread that I cannot stay out of. It's the one called "US Home Values Bottomed Out?" In that one, I used the quote "Unrestrained greed is not only bad morals, it's bad economics." And you know what, I suppose I could have quoted, "We reap what we sow." But I did not sow this. Or did I? I am guilty of voting for some of those :edit: who let banking and healthcare lobbyists destroy so many. As long as those lobbyists keep slopping the hogs, we will continue to be a Nation :edit: ed.

I am not trying to sell a house. For now, Mr. Boomer and I have our retiree healthcare coverage. I did not buy banking stocks. Mr. Boomer and I would not be retired had we not been able to figure out how to afford it. But I am completely furious and oh so lost because I guess I must be a big picture thinker.

Dems will decide we are all rich, even if we are not even close. But you watch, if we managed to hold onto a couple of bucks, we will suddenly find ourselves in the rich category. Dems will tax what they should encourage and subsidize what they should discourage.

And the whole "NO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE" crank 'em up and to the polls battlecry is nothing more than a way to mobilize a chunk of the vote without offering any solutions.

Too many people that I know are terrified over what is to happen to their healthcare if they find they must retire or want to retire. Too many find themselves with no access to buy into good plans. Like I have said before, "The people I know are not looking for a free ride where healthcare is concerned. They just want to be able to buy a ticket to ride." (and that one is a quote from the actual Boomer. I think it sums it up pretty well.)

Oh, and have you looked at the cost of college tuition lately? That's another one.

I was told years ago that I was a closet Democrat. Don't know for sure. But I rarely acted upon those closet urges. My daughter Boomette, the Democrat, tells me that I brought her up to be a Democrat. I did not know I was doing that. I think she may be confused. But I think what must have happened is that I brought her up to be a big picture thinker and to work hard and to care about others. That's what too many Dem political types want to think they are. Or worse, want us to think they are. Oh if only that were really, truly a Democrat, I would so be there.

In Orwell's "Animal Farm" at the end of the book, the pigs have thrown the farmer out of the house. The pigs have set up inside, all cozy and warm and more bloated than ever. Well, you know what, the pigs are in the House and in the Senate.

Maybe what we should have been doing this century is making sure we voted in gridlock. But now, it's too late for gridlock. Things could be worse, you say. Well, yeah, maybe. . .

(I cannot believe I did this rant. And that is only the first chapter. And I am going to try so hard to not write the rest. What's the point? I come here to TOTV to play around a little. I better get back to that.)

But I will tell you what. If ol' John Boy caves to the far right, he's not takin' me to the dance.

And then, for thie first time in my life, I will probably have to be a wallflower.

(Let me tell you a little secret now that I have told you so many others. Mr. Boomer looks very much like a younger version of McCain. It is getting downright eerie. Some people think he looks like Steve Martin. I think I'll go with that one for now. And there was a lady in Macy's the other night who said he looks like Anderson Cooper. But she did not say that he looks like Alice Cooper so that's good.)

Sadly I remain,
Boomer the Abandoned, the Forsaken, the Girl Out in the Cold

(You know what's getting too weird around here is that I never know what I am going to write and in what thread I am going to stick it. This is getting to be crazyworld for me. I thought it was how I was passing that cold, dreary, snowed in winter many, many months ago. Guess I can't tell myself that anymore.)

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Boomer, have you thought about running for president? :bigthumbsup: Keep posting, gal!

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Boomer, have you thought about running for president? :bigthumbsup: Keep posting, gal!


Oh Peachie,

I was back in there editing and adding to that rant when your post appeared.

I have to tell you something funny about yourself.

You know when you wrote that thing in the "US Home Values Bottomed Out?" thread. The thing you wrote about jealously guarding your mattress. And you laid out all the costs associated with a second home not a rental. And you even brought up the umbrella policy.

Well, when I read it, I laughed out loud, here in the kitchen. Mr. Boomer looked over my shoulder to see why I was laughing. And before I even told him, he said, "That looks like you wrote it." And it did, Peach. It did. Right down to the umbrella policy. I rant to people about getting umbrella policies. Some people have never heard of them. Can you imagine?

So Peachie, are you my long lost twin?

Boomer

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1rnfl Boomer, I thought so often when reading your posts; "poor thing, her brain works very much like mine". ;D

Yours works at a higher level, though, so I shall aspire to greater heights :read:.

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Hey Peachie,

If you run for President, I will be your VP.

And now I really have to get out of here today. That rant was not in my plans.

Boomer

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I have had umbrella policies for as long as I can remember. They are dirt cheap and give more peace of mind. I just have to remember not to leave them in a restaurant. ;)

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Sam, always look under the chair before you leave the restaurant, that may help ;D. Mr. Peachie is also my insurance agent so we have been under that umbrella for a long, long time. The peace of mind is very comforting....

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I have had umbrella policies for as long as I can remember. They are dirt cheap and give more peace of mind. I just have to remember not to leave them in a restaurant. ;)



Sam,

That is a hoot. You are starting to sound like GG. I love that straight schtick she does. I told her once that if George Burns had hooked up with her after his beloved Gracie Number One, he could have continued that standup routine for a lot longer.

Well, I really have to get on with my best laid plans of the day. And stop hijacking this thread which I actually am liking a lot, even though it is political.

Girlz Rulz!

Boomer

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psssst, Sam, Peachie is sleepin' with her insurance agent.

I have got to get out of here. I have got to stop this. Hijacking is so rude. I have already probably :edit: off a bunch of people with my rant.

I am gone. (But I guess you already knew that.)

Boomer

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Michael Moore is calling for Caroline Kennedy to run with Obama. That is scary for Obama if you look at it from a conspiracy standpoint. The Kennedys have been trying to get one of their own into the Presidency since who knows when. It would be in their best interest if Obama and Caroline ran together and won, wouldn't it? I won't say anymore, use your own judgement. Of course the Clintons would be called in as consultants on this one, lol!!

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Lord Obamas new campaign slogan


VOTE DEMOCRAT.....IT'S EASIER THAN WORKING.

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Lord Obamas new campaign slogan


VOTE DEMOCRAT.....IT'S EASIER THAN WORKING.
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This may be very true. Folks on here have been a bit critical of my saying I feared socialism if Sen Obama was elected but they are not looking at his historyas I have tried to spell out but the entire Democratic logic....recent example...

The Democrats wanted to bail out all the folks in trouble with mortgages...meaning you and I and every other responsible american pay not only our mortgage but theirs as well. The President said he would veto it for a long time. He did finally sign it (in private) after the Democrats stopped opposing to some help the President wanted for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which was the card they played...to quote the President "proposed reforms to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac "are too important to the stability of our nation's housing market, financial system and the broader economy not to be enacted immediately."

NOW the media is lambasting the President for signing the Democratic bill that he opposed but was cornered into signing. It is a Democratic bill and I sincerely believe if Sen Obama is elected we will bail out anyone in this country and others at a cost to us !

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OMG! These last few comments have gone beyond childish. Shame on you!

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OMG! These last few comments have gone beyond childish. Shame on you!
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If you are going to slam me and call me "beyond childish" and criticize you will need to show what I said that was untrue !!!!!!!!

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Link to the Wall Street Journal of July 31, 2008

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/31/business/31housing.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Last paragraph of the article..

"The bill includes an array of other aid for troubled borrowers, and about $15 billion in housing-related tax breaks. It also includes nearly $4 billion grants to local governments to buy and refurbished foreclosed properties, which Mr. Bush had opposed even as he signed the measure. The White House views that provision as a giveaway to banks and other lenders who own the seized properties"

From the Washington Times of July 27, 2008

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/27/congress-sends-mortgage-bailout-to-bush/

A few comments from that article...

"The House passed the bill on Wednesday, hours after President Bush withdrew a threatened veto of the measure. Mr. Bush is expected to sign the bill into law Monday."

"Many Senate Republicans were angry that Mr. Reid - - who as majority leader controls the legislative schedule - brought the housing bill to the floor in lieu of Republican proposals to increase domestic oil drilling, which they say would lead to lower gasoline prices at the pump. "

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Who said that all a Vice President does is break an occasional tie vote in the Senate and go to the funerals of foreign dignitaries?

Wasn't that Dick Cheney?

'Nuff said?

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Who said that all a Vice President does is break an occasional tie vote in the Senate and go to the funerals of foreign dignitaries?

Wasn't that Dick Cheney?

'Nuff said?
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I am not sure what this above post is all about...my post was in response to being beyond childish and suppled some facts on the ISSUE THAT was being discussed where it was implied I was making it up or something.

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I was replying to the original post, not your reply, Bucco. The original post posed the question of whether the choices of VP by the candidates would affect my vote. I was attempting to say that, given our experience of the last eight years, it sure will...and it should!

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I was replying to the original post, not your reply, Bucco. The original post posed the question of whether the choices of VP by the candidates would affect my vote. I was attempting to say that, given our experience of the last eight years, it sure will...and it should!
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Thanks....I had already been told I was "beyond childish" for sharing FACTS and did not want to have to go to my room again:)

Yeah, seems like VP may be more important this cycle more because of the candidates themselves !!

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What do you think are the chances of my man Joe (Biden, Delaware senator) being the democratic running mate?

It is all over the news here, but Joe isn't saying anything.

I have it on good authority that he really wants to be Sec of State.

Guess we'll wait and see.

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I also really like Sen Biden !

If he is chosen, it will surely give me pause,but my concerns about our intended President would trump it.

However, given any other candidate, he would really draw me !

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Lord Obamas new campaign slogan


VOTE DEMOCRAT.....IT'S EASIER THAN WORKING.

Hmm, crazy or just ignorant?

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Hmm, crazy or just ignorant?


Hmmm.....How about true. Benj

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Joe Biden. Isn't he from a state with 12 voters?

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Joe Biden. Isn't he from a state with 12 voters?
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LOL...yeah, the great state of Delaware !!!

I like Joe Biden and always have...if Sen Obama is elected he would make a great Secy of State...PEGGY D said on here that she heard on "good authority" that he wants that position !

Biden brings the international affairs to the slate !

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Dear Editor, Times-Dispatch:



'Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice. On June 30 I celebrate my independence day, and on July 4 I celebrate America's. This year is special, because it marks the 40th anniversary of my independence.



'On June 30, 1968, I escaped Communist Cuba, and a few months later, I was in the United States to stay. That I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day is just part of the story, but I digress.



'I've thought a lot about the anniversary this year. The election-year rhetoric has made me think a lot about Cuba and what transpired there.



In the late 1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So when a young leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive.



'When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, everyone followed. When he said he would bring justice and equality to all, everyone said, 'Praise the Lord.'



And when the young leader said, 'I will be for change and I'll bring you change,' everyone yelled, 'Viva Fidel!'



'But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner's guns went silent, the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education, it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented, Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over, more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. You can call those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the most fortunate Cubans. And now I'm back to the beginning of my story.



Luckily, we would never fall in America for a young leader who promised change without asking, what change? How will you carry it out? What will it cost America?



'Would we?'



Manuel Alvarez, Jr.

Sandy Hook, VA

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[quote=Bucco ]
Joe Biden. Isn't he from a state with 12 voters?
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LOL...yeah, the great state of Delaware !!!

I like Joe Biden and always have...if Sen Obama is elected he would make a great Secy of State...PEGGY D said on here that she heard on "good authority" that he wants that position !

Biden brings the international affairs to the slate !
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Yuk, yuk--12 voters!!

I worked with a close friend of the Biden family. Also Hubbys' cousin is on Joe's staff.
He'll make a good Sec of State for sure based on his experience in international affairs.

Joe is a real stand-up guy. Priming his son Beau for a political career. It's a name you'll hear in the future.