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08-22-2015, 09:33 PM
Voting By Sex, Age, Race, Money, And Education - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/voting-by-sex-age-race-money-and-education-2012-11)

When you look at these numbers, why is it a stretch to say the Republican party is made up of older white voters? The next Republican nominee is going to have a real hard time winning over young, and women voters.

The white voters made up 72% of the people that voted. Given the hard line policies that candidates have taken, they are almost giving up on 28% of non white voters.

What is worse, Romney is a moderate Republican. Given the polls, moderates are far behind the far right.

Guest
08-23-2015, 05:42 AM
Voting By Sex, Age, Race, Money, And Education - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/voting-by-sex-age-race-money-and-education-2012-11)

When you look at these numbers, why is it a stretch to say the Republican party is made up of older white voters? The next Republican nominee is going to have a real hard time winning over young, and women voters.

The white voters made up 72% of the people that voted. Given the hard line policies that candidates have taken, they are almost giving up on 28% of non white voters.

What is worse, Romney is a moderate Republican. Given the polls, moderates are far behind the far right.

Ok, so you are attempting to bait the conservatives. Fine, I'll bite.

First off, Romney is not running for election.
Second, You will never get 100% voter turn out. It's never happened in history.
Third, What is your point regarding Republicans being "older white voters?" Everyone knows that when you get older, you get smarter and if you were a Democrat, you change to conservative. That's a given....

The only reason Democrats get ANY votes is because they are known for their Santa Clause give-a-ways of tax payers' money and lackadaisical attitude toward crime. If it's too difficult to prosecute, then legalize it. Minorities reap the most from the Dem's handouts and are easily bought. Now that women have taken a place of equality with men, they are smart enough to vote their conscience, so the vote is pretty much splitting.

This election will be determined by the Independent vote. As it stands right now, Hillary won't get the Independent vote, so I hope she stays in the race. There will also be a lack of turnout of the black voter and even the Democrat voter. The gays (a very minute group) got their way, so the Dems have nothing to offer them that they didn't have before. Nothing to buy them with.

In essence, the election will be determined (as it stands now) by the Independent voter.

Guest
08-23-2015, 05:52 AM
The simple truth is Mitt Romney did not get elected because 4% of thw white voters refused to vote for him...thank the Republican Establishments interference. Will they repeat their mistake this time around?

We are still a long way to the actual voting.

And as a personal aside let's hope truly that the best candidate prevails because we need goo leadership.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
08-23-2015, 06:28 AM
Voting By Sex, Age, Race, Money, And Education - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/voting-by-sex-age-race-money-and-education-2012-11)

When you look at these numbers, why is it a stretch to say the Republican party is made up of older white voters? The next Republican nominee is going to have a real hard time winning over young, and women voters.

The white voters made up 72% of the people that voted. Given the hard line policies that candidates have taken, they are almost giving up on 28% of non white voters.

What is worse, Romney is a moderate Republican. Given the polls, moderates are far behind the far right.

I would much much prefer that the best candidate be elected, rather than dwell on what party he/she might be.

Lets all hope for that, since we are quite a way from any election, and I sincerely hope that the wish of each on here is for the best person and not some party to win and bring us back from the doldrums this country is in right now.

Guest
08-23-2015, 07:59 AM
The simple truth is Mitt Romney did not get elected because 4% of the white voters refused to vote for him.

Actually. this statement is the reason that I posted the %'s. Where does this 4 % comment come from? Mathematically, it doesn't seem possible that that could be true. 72% of the vote were white. Romney won this group by 20%. A large percentage of older people vote. Most of this 4% would have to come from the 45-59 age group. Romney won this group by 5%. Obama won the woman vote by 11%.

Men between the age of 45-59 would have to be almost the entire 4%. Since popular vote doesn't determine the president, this 4% would have to be from Democrat leaning states. What did the Republican higher ups do to turn off men between the ages of 45-59 in such high numbers in Democrat leaning states?

The statement that really hurt Romney 49% comment. Men between the ages of 45-59 do not fall into the do not taxes category. It appears that someone (not you) made the 4% comment to feel better about themselves.

To the person(s) that keep on throwing out there, that the reason Democrats do anything is to buy votes. That is nonsense. If it is a given the older you get the smarter you get, well then men between the ages 45-59 don't seem to be getting smarter. They gave the election to President Obama by staying away.

Concerning the statement, Independents will determine the next president. that probably isn't right either. Given the direction that the either far right or left the parties have taken, there aren't that many true Independents out there. Whichever way they lean will get their vote. Independent has lost its meaning.

Guest
08-23-2015, 08:36 AM
I am very curious as to the intent of the OP here.

Guest
08-23-2015, 10:03 AM
I am very curious as to the intent of the OP here.

He's trying to agitate by implying that white voters are racists. Another race baiter.

Guest
08-23-2015, 10:13 AM
The simple truth is Mitt Romney did not get elected because 4% of the white voters refused to vote for him.

Actually. this statement is the reason that I posted the %'s. Where does this 4 % comment come from? Mathematically, it doesn't seem possible that that could be true. 72% of the vote were white. Romney won this group by 20%. A large percentage of older people vote. Most of this 4% would have to come from the 45-59 age group. Romney won this group by 5%. Obama won the woman vote by 11%.

Men between the age of 45-59 would have to be almost the entire 4%. Since popular vote doesn't determine the president, this 4% would have to be from Democrat leaning states. What did the Republican higher ups do to turn off men between the ages of 45-59 in such high numbers in Democrat leaning states?

The statement that really hurt Romney 49% comment. Men between the ages of 45-59 do not fall into the do not taxes category. It appears that someone (not you) made the 4% comment to feel better about themselves.

To the person(s) that keep on throwing out there, that the reason Democrats do anything is to buy votes. That is nonsense. If it is a given the older you get the smarter you get, well then men between the ages 45-59 don't seem to be getting smarter. They gave the election to President Obama by staying away.

Concerning the statement, Independents will determine the next president. that probably isn't right either. Given the direction that the either far right or left the parties have taken, there aren't that many true Independents out there. Whichever way they lean will get their vote. Independent has lost its meaning.

All this is your opinion, and really not thought out.
Romney's comment was of the 47%, and it was meant to be private. A liberal spy recorded it. Typical lowlife practice. And it was taken out of context, which is common practice in campaign fights.

Saying that there are less Independents is not correct either. Show me the stats indicating a lower Independent count. You always ask for proof, so where's your proof. Saying it doesn't make it so.

There is no such thing as a "true" Independent. Independents vote according to what they believe are the best policies, not necessarily according to ideology of a party. In my opinion, they can't make up there minds to join a party.

Republican and Democrat voters equal almost the same percentage of voters. Independents will make the difference in a lot of elections. You will not see Republicans voting for Hillary in this election. Of course, you may see Dems staying home because they are disgusted with her. So, like I said before, and I reiterate the Independents will be the deciding factor. Being the first female president will not mean much to them. But, not being trustworthy will mean something.

Guest
08-23-2015, 12:15 PM
The intent was very simple. Where did the 4% comment come from? I was an accountant. The 4% number doesn't seem to make sense mathematically. Why is that so hard accept? Why do a small group of people always want to argue, call people names, and offer next to nothing but hatred to any thread. I don't have a problem with your question. Take a look at the post directly below yours, and tell me where that cane from.

Guest
08-23-2015, 12:35 PM
Romney's comment was of the 47%, and it was meant to be private. A liberal spy recorded it. Typical lowlife practice. And it was taken out of context, which is common practice in campaign fights.

How much thought did it take to come up with that statement? Why would anyone take you seriously, after making a comment like that?

Fox News at the time broke down the 47% by category. Fox News didn't take that statement out of context. Romney meant very word that he said. He couldn't dance away from it later.

Guest
08-23-2015, 12:41 PM
Romney's comment was of the 47%, and it was meant to be private. A liberal spy recorded it. Typical lowlife practice. And it was taken out of context, which is common practice in campaign fights.

How much thought did it take to come up with that statement? Why would anyone take you seriously, after making a comment like that?

Fox News at the time broke down the 47% by category. Fox News didn't take that statement out of context. Romney meant very word that he said. He couldn't dance away from it later.

All of that and you focused on the part about Romney? And then you couldn't answer the other poster's question to you. Go away troll, go away. Romney is not running for office, and you would know that IF you were paying attention.

Guest
08-23-2015, 03:33 PM
All of that and you focused on the part about Romney? And then you couldn't answer the other poster's question to you. Go away troll, go away. Romney is not running for office, and you would know that IF you were paying attention.

You are a complete fool. He said that I should backup my comment about Independents. Did you see him backup his statement about Independents? So, I should do something that he didn't do.

His comments about Independents that they are just lazy, that says all there has to be said about his state of mind.

Guest
08-23-2015, 03:49 PM
Record-High 42% of Americans Identify as Independents (http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx)

Take a look at the chart that includes party plus independents leaning to a specific party. That chart has the Democrats at 47%, and Republicans at 41%. The Democrats have gained support over the past few years, and the Republicans have lost ground. His statement that Independents won't vote for a Democrat is just the opposite of current trend.

Guest
08-23-2015, 05:59 PM
Record-High 42% of Americans Identify as Independents (http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx)

Take a look at the chart that includes party plus independents leaning to a specific party. That chart has the Democrats at 47%, and Republicans at 41%. The Democrats have gained support over the past few years, and the Republicans have lost ground. His statement that Independents won't vote for a Democrat is just the opposite of current trend.

That information is almost two years old. However, the registered Independent voters do out number registered Democrat or Republican. Democrat slightly outnumbers Republican in percentage, but only by a few percentage points. Like the post above said, the Independent votes will make the difference in this election. Take into consideration the last election, where Republicans gained the majority in congress, and the fact that you won't have the large black turnout, which is predominantly Democrat, and you are going to see Republicans with a slight advantage. Independents lean to the right and if Hillary is still in the game, then she will assure a Republican victory.