Of the new neighborhoods...

[BS Beef]

For those of you who have toured around or investigated in the new neighborhoods which do you like the best? And why? I'm thinking about Dunedin, Labelle, Pine Ridge, Osceola Hills…I think that's about all.

[JoMar]

Don't know that any one is better than the other, the people make the neighborhoods, but, having said that, if you are looking for access to town squares or shopping, or medical you need to understand the distances from all that stuff. As announced, no plans for anymore town squares so location, location, location comes into play.

[justjim]

LaBelle is only 10 minutes via golf cart from Colony Plaza and even closer to 4 executive golf courses. Better yet---less than 5 minutes (you can walk) to Belle Glade C.C. and 27 holes of Championship golf. Brownwood is about 20 minutes via golf cart and less than 15 by car.

A vast range of homes to choose from in LaBelle. My choice of new Villages.

[SALYBOW]

I like them all but Pine Ridge stood out. Very close to Colony. We have three courses in Buttonwood and I never golf there always somewhere else. I have heard Volusia is nice.

[Phanatic Luvr]

Another thing to keep in mind is, Sumter County property taxes are less than Lake County property taxes. Just something to consider.

[joldnol]

Dunedin is the most centrally located. Very close to 3 championship courses and close to 7 execs (with 3 more coming on line). Closest of the new villages to Brownwood. In the middle of 3 Village Rec Centers (Manatee, Bradenton and Captiva).

Pine Ridge is far by cart to everything shopping but Colony. Close to 4 execs (3 are opening soon) and one champion.

Labelle is the next closest to shopping and amenities.

Osceola is the farthest away from town centers and golf.

[Kazmi]

Depends on what is more important to you. Dunedin is the closest to Brownwood. Labelle and Pine Ridge are closest to shopping though Osceola will have a shopping center on 44 soon.

We chose Labelle North because of Belle Glade (we are right across the street) and the surrounding courses. With all of the rec centers opening that won't be very far (Okeechobee, Burnsed) and quick access to Colony and Manitee, we're pretty happy with our choice. Our other choice would have been to wait until they build the southern end of Pine Hills (closest to Labelle) but then factored in the lower taxes of Sumter County.

[jnieman]

Don't know that any one is better than the other, the people make the neighborhoods, but, having said that, if you are looking for access to town squares or shopping, or medical you need to understand the distances from all that stuff. As announced, no plans for anymore town squares so location, location, location comes into play.

I agree. Don't discount a pre-owned home in a neighborhood like Hadley, Hemmingway, Amelia. We are so close to Colony (5 minute), 10 to Sumter Landing, 15 minutes to numerous Championship and Executive golf courses. You get so many extra upgrades in a pre-owned home as well. Laminate floors, pull out drawers, recessed lighting, upgraded fixtures, designer driveways, enclosed lanais, bird cages, etc. If you get a new home all of that is extra coming right out of your pocket.

[BS Beef]

Interesting feedback and I appreciate your comments!!! :thumbup:
I agree. Don't discount a pre-owned home in a neighborhood like Hadley, Hemmingway, Amelia. We are so close to Colony (5 minute), 10 to Sumter Landing, 15 minutes to numerous Championship and Executive golf courses. You get so many extra upgrades in a pre-owned home as well. Laminate floors, pull out drawers, recessed lighting, upgraded fixtures, designer driveways, enclosed lanais, bird cages, etc. If you get a new home all of that is extra coming right out of your pocket.

I have and will consider pre-owned. Tough to choose between established neighborhood vs. new where you will obviously have a brand new house but also the ability to pick and choose what you want including colors and materials from the beginning.

[vette]

We chose LaBelle not only because it will be an easy cart ride to both Colony and the new shopping center next to the Rohan RRC. Walking distance to Bel Glade, short ride to several rec centers and last but Not least the bond was extremely reasonable...

[jnieman]

We chose LaBelle not only because it will be an easy cart ride to both Colony and the new shopping center next to the Rohan RRC. Walking distance to Bel Glade, short ride to several rec centers and last but Not least the bond was extremely reasonable...

The realtor had told us the bond was $25,000, is that not true? Also, where will the Rohan RRC shopping center be built and what types of stores will be in it? Is it going to be like colony or larger with anchor stores?

[Phanatic Luvr]

For those of you looking in the newer areas, and have not experienced Colony Shopping Center in January, February and March .... BEWARE!!!!!!! It's not a pretty sight. You will have to either go very early in the morning or in the evening. Parking is horrible and Publix is just plain annoying. And never go on the 1st, 2nd or 3rd of January, Feb. or March. That is when all the new renters come in and need to stock up. Just saying .....

[twoplanekid]

I purchased a new Holly last December in the Village of Lake Deaton. Before this purchase, I looked at many Bridgeport/Boxwood/Holly model homes. Two of these pre-owned Bridgeport houses near Lake Sumter are still on the market at more than 10% off the asking price from the summer of 2014.

They are a better deal cost wise than last year yet the new builds are so competitive in price to the pre-owned in my opinion. There are only two new houses left in Lake Deaton for sale. Both show a large discount.

[HimandMe]

Don't know that any one is better than the other, the people make the neighborhoods, but, having said that, if you are looking for access to town squares or shopping, or medical you need to understand the distances from all that stuff. As announced, no plans for anymore town squares so location, location, location comes into play.

I think LaBelle looks best...location, shopping, amenities. Is there a LaBelle Village website?

[RickeyD]

I think LaBelle looks best...location, shopping, amenities. Is there a LaBelle Village website?


Best to check a flood map if you're interested in any village south of 466A & east of Morse.

[graciegirl]

Best to check a flood map if you're interested in any village south of 466A & east of Morse.


There is no reason to say things like that. The Villages have a very good record for excavating surfaces for run off, managing the levels of ponds and seeing that things drain properly.


About five years ago we had 13 inches of rain within three days and there was standing water, not high, but standing water at the intersection of Morse and Stillwater. That was it. I think that is amazing.

[RickeyD]

There is no reason to say things like that. The Villages have a very good record for excavating surfaces for run off, managing the levels of ponds and seeing that things drain properly.


About five years ago we had 13 inches of rain within three days and there was standing water, not high, but standing water at the intersection of Morse and Stillwater. That was it. I think that is amazing.


I am stating the obvious. Look at a terrain map of the aforesaid area. It's unlike any other area in the Villages. Can the developer control it ? Perhaps they can, but if it's my money on the table I'll buy high ground property any time over low ground. Any smart person doing their due diligence would. That is reason enough to say things like that, dear Gracie.

[ScorpioSquared]

I think LaBelle looks best...location, shopping, amenities. Is there a LaBelle Village website?

There is a LaBelle website for LaBelle residents though. It lists social activities, etc. It doesn't detail properties in LaBelle if that's what you were after.

[golfing eagles]

I am stating the obvious. Look at a terrain map of the aforesaid area. It's unlike any other area in the Villages. Can the developer control it ? Perhaps they can, but if it's my money on the table I'll buy high ground property any time over low ground. Any smart person doing their due diligence would. That is reason enough to say things like that, dear Gracie.

I have to agree with GG on this one.
I bought south of 466A and just east of Buena Vista. My house is at 72 ft above sea level, even the highest point in TV is only 140. My foundation is 15 1/2 feet above the pond on the golf course which is about 70-80 yds away. I don't expect to be sitting on my roof for the rescue helicopter, nor is Noah going to pull up to my front door. FEMA and Flood insurance people say we're fine. And if TV handled 13 inches in 3 days without looking like Johnstown PA, I'm not worried

[twoplanekid]

Use this map to see the 100 year flood plan data. Zoom/cut to the correct location and then click the 100 year flood zone box to the right of the map. This information is found on the Sumter County site.

Sumter County - Geographic Information System (http://www.sumtergis.com/gis/)

[Polar Bear]

I am stating the obvious. Look at a terrain map of the aforesaid area. It's unlike any other area in the Villages. Can the developer control it ? Perhaps they can, but if it's my money on the table I'll buy high ground property any time over low ground. Any smart person doing their due diligence would. That is reason enough to say things like that, dear Gracie.

Ooohh. A bit high on one's self are we?

It's not so obvious at all. If the developer cannot come up with a plan to handle the design storms, they will not get their permits. Of course you have to be aware of flood zones when you develop. That I will agree is obvious. But there's no "perhaps" about it...they either control the water or they don't develop the property.

You do know that higher elevations can flood, right? And lower elevations can handle drainage just fine. It's all in the engineering. The developer has done a very good job in that regard to this point. There is no reason to believe that the southern areas will be handled any less efficiently...even if the topography is a bit different.

[RickeyD]

Ooohh. A bit high on one's self are we?

It's not so obvious at all. If the developer cannot come up with a plan to handle the design storms, they will not get their permits. Of course you have to be aware of flood zones when you develop. That I will agree is obvious. But there's no "perhaps" about it...they either control the water or they don't develop the property.

You do know that higher elevations can flood, right? And lower elevations can handle drainage just fine. It's all in the engineering. The developer has done a very good job in that regard to this point. There is no reason to believe that the southern areas will be handled any less efficiently...even if the topography is a bit different.


The only thing I'm high on, is a hill. Many house's at the bottom of our street with perpetual soggy lawns that the developer refuses to fix. Areas that should have remained wetlands, not developed. But, profit rules and the poor schmucks who didn't do their due diligence suffer.

[graciegirl]

The only thing I'm high on, is a hill. Many house's at the bottom of our street with perpetual soggy lawns that the developer refuses to fix. Areas that should have remained wetlands, not developed. But, profit rules and the poor schmucks who didn't do their due diligence suffer.



???????

In our neighborhood which is three years old, three properties had standing water at the beginning and those problems were quickly solved by the developer. I hope we will hear from other people who had their problems solved.

We think it is wonderful that some bright people took some swamp land and fixed it up and sold it to a lot of people. It is the American way.

I eagerly bought here and so did over a hundred thousand other people without a gun to our heads and most of us are satisfied.

[Sandtrap328]

There have been posts on TOTV about mosquito problems in some of the new sections. Someone said that mosquito control spraying was not done in all the new sections.

I know that Bonifay Club outdoor bar has a bad fly problem. The manager told me that is because it was built on a former cattle field. Who knows?

To me, I find the well established areas a better buy. Negotiations on price, lower or no bond, no surprises about what is built, and mature landscaping are a few reasons.

I have always suggested having BOTH a Villages realtor and an MLS agent. Neither can show each other's homes. No need to be sneaky because they know savvy buyers do it.

Best of luck. You will be happy anywhere. But check out resales in established neighborhoods!

[golfing eagles]

The only thing I'm high on, is a hill. Many house's at the bottom of our street with perpetual soggy lawns that the developer refuses to fix. Areas that should have remained wetlands, not developed. But, profit rules and the poor schmucks who didn't do their due diligence suffer.

Being in Lake Deaton, like you are, there are soggy lawn problems. At first I thought it was solely a grading/drainage problem, as shown in the first picture. I too met with the builder, home warranty and the lawn service, and yes, there is some reluctance to install a French drain, at least at first. It is also true that areas south of 466A have a large amount of clay soil which hampers drainage. In the last 5 months I have had the lawn core aerated and top dressed, and the second picture is taken 2 weeks after, showing tremendous improvement (albeit weeds), despite a lot of rainfall. The developer will fix the problem, if you stay after them and it is clearly due to drainage. In my situation, given the photo evidence, I'm not sure I can make that case, but it is a work in progress. The head of home warranty is coming back in October to review the situation, and there ARE properties in lake Deaton that they have fixed. They probably just want to be sure that a French drain is the solution

[golfing eagles]

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[RickeyD]

???????

In our neighborhood which is three years old, three properties had standing water at the beginning and those problems were quickly solved by the developer. I hope we will hear from other people who had their problems solved.

We think it is wonderful that some bright people took some swamp land and fixed it up and sold it to a lot of people. It is the American way.

I eagerly bought here and so did over a hundred thousand other people without a gun to our heads and most of us are satisfied.


You forgot the disclaimer.

[golfing eagles]

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[golfing eagles]

anyway, the before image was all mud and puddles

[RickeyD]

Being in Lake Deaton, like you are, there are soggy lawn problems. At first I thought it was solely a grading/drainage problem, as shown in the first picture. I too met with the builder, home warranty and the lawn service, and yes, there is some reluctance to install a French drain, at least at first. It is also true that areas south of 466A have a large amount of clay soil which hampers drainage. In the last 5 months I have had the lawn core aerated and top dressed, and the second picture is taken 2 weeks after, showing tremendous improvement (albeit weeds), despite a lot of rainfall. The developer will fix the problem, if you stay after them and it is clearly due to drainage. In my situation, given the photo evidence, I'm not sure I can make that case, but it is a work in progress. The head of home warranty is coming back in October to review the situation, and there ARE properties in lake Deaton that they have fixed. They probably just want to be sure that a French drain is the solution


I'm jealous of your perseverance. Me, I would have no patience if I dropped 500K for a house in Florida and my back lawn is a swamp. I avoided this issue simply by looking up my block and down my block just to make sure I wasn't at the bottom.

[graciegirl]

You forgot the disclaimer.





You a Michigan fan too?

[biker1]

There are actually two issues. Regarding the pitch of the roads, the location of catch basins, and the location and number of retention ponds, the developer appears to have consistently done a competent job. I say this because I see virtually no flooding of the roads, at least where I am, during very heavy rains. The second issue is the grading of the lots and the determination of where french drains need to be installed and the competency of the installation. In this regard, there are numerous examples of a mediocre job. I have seen dozens of instances where french drains were retroactively installed in my Village and at least one example where a french drain was initially installed but had to be redone because of poor installation. You might be temped to say "well they came back and installed them where they were needed". The issue is that you can now see exactly where they were retroactively installed because of poor regrading and sod installation. In addition, warranty has, in some cases, only agreed to address the issues after much back and forth with the homeowners.

The only thing I'm high on, is a hill. Many house's at the bottom of our street with perpetual soggy lawns that the developer refuses to fix. Areas that should have remained wetlands, not developed. But, profit rules and the poor schmucks who didn't do their due diligence suffer.

[Polar Bear]

The only thing I'm high on, is a hill. Many house's at the bottom of our street with perpetual soggy lawns that the developer refuses to fix. Areas that should have remained wetlands, not developed. But, profit rules and the poor schmucks who didn't do their due diligence suffer.

Ahh. Such a positive attitude. Now I understand your earlier post.

By the way, that would have been a great retort if you'd stopped after your first sentence. Now it's just calling your neighbors names.

[twoplanekid]

If you look at Google earth and then click on show historical imagery back to 1994, you can see what was built on what.

[cmj1210]

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[RickeyD]

Ahh. Such a positive attitude. Now I understand your earlier post.

By the way, that would have been a great retort if you'd stopped after your first sentence. Now it's just calling your neighbors names.


Poor schmuck is a regional term not in this case used as a pejorative. If you were from NYC you'd understand. But your not.

[keithwand]

The only thing I'm high on, is a hill. Many house's at the bottom of our street with perpetual soggy lawns that the developer refuses to fix. Areas that should have remained wetlands, not developed. But, profit rules and the poor schmucks who didn't do their due diligence suffer.

Scmuck here.
We love our new home (2012) below 466A.
No flooding but we do have insurance even if the pool overflows and water comes inside.
I suggest you check out Mount Dora for high area. Not quite as high as McKinley
But keep looking.

[Polar Bear]

Poor schmuck is a regional term not in this case used as a pejorative. If you were from NYC you'd understand. But your not.

I hope all of your neighbors are from NYC so they understand.

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

Lake County millage rate is 50% higher than Sumter if that is a concern for you.
Sumter is 12.2918 VS Lake is 18.5763.

[BS Beef]

Oh my, I didn't realize what I had done :shocked:. When I was typing this thread I thought it was fairly innocuous. Apparently I was mistaken.

[Kazmi]

There is a LaBelle website for LaBelle residents though. It lists social activities, etc. It doesn't detail properties in LaBelle if that's what you were after.

I'd be interested in knowing how to find this website since we purchased in Labelle North.

[CraigC]

There are actually two issues. Regarding the pitch of the roads, the location of catch basins, and the location and number of retention ponds, the developer appears to have consistently done a competent job. I say this because I see virtually no flooding of the roads, at least where I am, during very heavy rains. The second issue is the grading of the lots and the determination of where french drains need to be installed and the competency of the installation. In this regard, there are numerous examples of a mediocre job. I have seen dozens of instances where french drains were retroactively installed in my Village and at least one example where a french drain was initially installed but had to be redone because of poor installation. You might be temped to say "well they came back and installed them where they were needed". The issue is that you can now see exactly where they were retroactively installed because of poor regrading and sod installation. In addition, warranty has, in some cases, only agreed to address the issues after much back and forth with the homeowners.

You hit the nail on the head! I agree 100% with your assessment of the situation in many areas south of 466A. I lived just north of 466A for 3+ years, and although the area was very flat (St. James), the drainage couldn't have been better. The lots were well prepared, and there was no real amount of standing water on lots just hours after the tropical storm came through in June of 2012. The lot that I live on here is a disgrace. I have an absolute river on both sides of my house when we have a heavy rain, and the yard has standing water for days after a rain.

Every neighbor on our block except for one is having water problems, and Villages Warranty is doing a great job of avoiding the obvious - poor design and grading. All but one on my block has attempted to get Villages Warranty to do something, and nothing of any significance has been done.

The houses across the street had the same problems, but a woman in one of the houses would come out and warn prospective buyers about the drainage problems (in the presence of their realtors). After a few weeks of this, the Villages decided to run a French drain behind the houses. Of course, this only works if there are still a number of homes left for sale in the neighborhood

While I love my neighbors, and my home (excepting the yard), I certainly would never buy south of 466A again, knowing what I know now. I certainly would advise prospective buyers to carefully examine lots after a rain, and if there appears to be a drainage problem, look elsewhere!! You will be fighting an uphill battle trying to get The Villages to fix it.

[big guy]

We love Sunset Pointe. We are close to Sumter Landing and in the geographical center of The Villages.

[Sunnygram]

???????

In our neighborhood which is three years old, three properties had standing water at the beginning and those problems were quickly solved by the developer. I hope we will hear from other people who had their problems solved.

We think it is wonderful that some bright people took some swamp land and fixed it up and sold it to a lot of people. It is the American way.

I eagerly bought here and so did over a hundred thousand other people without a gun to our heads and most of us are satisfied.

Well, this is 2015, and things have definitely changed. Maybe because they have more than they can handle, things are not handled quickly. Most of the people in our neighborhood are facing their year warranties running out and are nervous, upset, and unhappy.

[biker1]

Make sure you have a warranty claim "on record" with the warranty department before your year is out. They honored a warranty claim more than a year after our settlement date (although they did it kicking and screaming, metaphorically)


Well, this is 2015, and things have definitely changed. Maybe because they have more than they can handle, things are not handled quickly. Most of the people in our neighborhood are facing their year warranties running out and are nervous, upset, and unhappy.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We just bought a new house in Silver Lake. We looked around the new Villages and felt that they are very remote. We felt that we'd really only have reasonable access to Brownwood by golf cart. The fact that there is no bond in Lady Lake also influenced our decision. We are very happy with our new home and neighborhood.

We didn't want to live out in the middle of nowhere.

[Vladimir]

Prior to moving to TV our previous house had numerous drainage and water in the crawl space issues. So far so good in the Gilchrist/Pinellas/Fernandina area and especially my lot. During heavy rains (3-4 inches in a few hours) I can see a river of water flowing in the back and the sides as it drains into the street. The water disappears in 30 minutes once the rain stops. So I'm happy that I don't have any standing water/drainage issues or a crawl space. And I think this area is now becoming more central to TV.

[don t]

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[tomwed]

Something you may like..check out WWW.1012 hollyhockway.info
It's not as interesting as you think.

[Sunnygram]

Make sure you have a warranty claim "on record" with the warranty department before your year is out. They honored a warranty claim more than a year after our settlement date (although they did it kicking and screaming, metaphorically)

Oh, we definitely have a warranty claim "on record" as does every house on our street except for one. The majority of the neighborhood was a drainage nightmare to begin with, but they have put in french drains and other drainage systems on the blocks on either side of ours.

[RickeyD]

Scmuck here.

We love our new home (2012) below 466A.

No flooding but we do have insurance even if the pool overflows and water comes inside.

I suggest you check out Mount Dora for high area. Not quite as high as McKinley

But keep looking.


If you read my post correctly my house is at a higher elevation, but those at the lower are having drainage issues. Mount Dora is not on my agenda and Mt. McKinley no longer exists.

[Kazmi]

Oh, we definitely have a warranty claim "on record" as does every house on our street except for one. The majority of the neighborhood was a drainage nightmare to begin with, but they have put in french drains and other drainage systems on the blocks on either side of ours.

Based on the posts on this thread, some are saying that the flooding issues are limited to the south of 466A. Didn't you just recently purchase in the Villages of St. James which is north of 466A?

Looks like 466A may not really be the dividing line between potential flooding and limited/no potential for flooding.

[Polar Bear]

Based on the posts on this thread, some are saying that the flooding issues are limited to the south of 466A. Didn't you just recently purchase in the Villages of St. James which is north of 466A?

Looks like 466A may not really be the dividing line between potential flooding and limited/no potential for flooding.
There is the potential for flooding anywhere...given poor enough engineering.

[dsbouley]

Wait until this winter. Try finding a parking spot in Colony.

[Sunnygram]

Based on the posts on this thread, some are saying that the flooding issues are limited to the south of 466A. Didn't you just recently purchase in the Villages of St. James which is north of 466A?

Looks like 466A may not really be the dividing line between potential flooding and limited/no potential for flooding.

No, we purchased in St. James over 3 years ago, and had absolutely no problems. Moved to Hillsborough this year, and have a river through our yard each time it rains, and it takes days to dry out. You can see from the picture that the water gets up high enough to wash the bark out of the bed on the right.

[Chatbrat]

Tamarind Grove no flooding issues at all, far away from major roads, keeps the heavy truck traffic to a minimum

[outlaw]

There have been posts on TOTV about mosquito problems in some of the new sections. Someone said that mosquito control spraying was not done in all the new sections.

I know that Bonifay Club outdoor bar has a bad fly problem. The manager told me that is because it was built on a former cattle field. Who knows?

To me, I find the well established areas a better buy. Negotiations on price, lower or no bond, no surprises about what is built, and mature landscaping are a few reasons.

I have always suggested having BOTH a Villages realtor and an MLS agent. Neither can show each other's homes. No need to be sneaky because they know savvy buyers do it.

Best of luck. You will be happy anywhere. But check out resales in established neighborhoods!

I actually worked with both, and told them up front that I was going to do this. they both immediately said they had no problem with this sort of arrangement. It is the only way to be exposed to virtually everything offered, except fsbo's.

[outlaw]

Ooohh. A bit high on one's self are we?

It's not so obvious at all. If the developer cannot come up with a plan to handle the design storms, they will not get their permits. Of course you have to be aware of flood zones when you develop. That I will agree is obvious. But there's no "perhaps" about it...they either control the water or they don't develop the property.

You do know that higher elevations can flood, right? And lower elevations can handle drainage just fine. It's all in the engineering. The developer has done a very good job in that regard to this point. There is no reason to believe that the southern areas will be handled any less efficiently...even if the topography is a bit different.

I have seen plenty of "permitted" developments with flooding issues. If you buy in Florida, or anywhere else for that matter, looking at flood zone maps is prudent. If you choose to ignore the information, and instead assume that the county, developer, and various builders did everything correctly, then go for it. I'm with rickeyd on this; due diligence.

[outlaw]

For those of you who have toured around or investigated in the new neighborhoods which do you like the best? And why? I'm thinking about Dunedin, Labelle, Pine Ridge, Osceola Hills…I think that's about all.

Before you decide on a location, read the stickies regarding things to know before buying in TV. Trains, kissing lanais, neighborhood pools, proximity to activities, shopping, town centers, rec centers, being on the first hole of a golf course, electric grid towers, and about a hundred other things to consider.

[Polar Bear]

I have seen plenty of "permitted" developments with flooding issues. If you buy in Florida, or anywhere else for that matter, looking at flood zone maps is prudent. If you choose to ignore the information, and instead assume that the county, developer, and various builders did everything correctly, then go for it. I'm with rickeyd on this; due diligence.

Read my post again. I never said to ignore any information and I also advocate due diligence.

By the way, if it's not a "permitted development", it's an illegal development. So of course flooding occurs in permitted developments. That's where construction practices, engineering, and...yes...due diligence come into play.

[graciegirl]

I have read it here several times that a French drain costs about $125 and tons of young men who can put it in.


Sounds like there is more clay south of 466A.

[outlaw]

Read my post again. I never said to ignore any information and I also advocate due diligence.

By the way, if it's not a "permitted development", it's an illegal development. So of course flooding occurs in permitted developments. That's where construction practices, engineering, and...yes...due diligence come into play.

"But there's no "perhaps" about it...they either control the water or they don't develop the property."

Your words, not mine.

[Polar Bear]

"But there's no "perhaps" about it...they either control the water or they don't develop the property."

Your words, not mine.
Yes...and I stand behind them. Their design must control the water. If it's not constructed to do so, then they are in violation and it must be fixed.

[pbkmaine]

I have read it here several times that a French drain costs about $125 and tons of young men who can put it in.


Sounds like there is more clay south of 466A.


Yes indeed, Gracie. At least, that's what IFAS says. All the sand we have up here turns to clay right around Brownwood.

[asianthree]

We are having some issues on the side of our house sod seems to stay soggy all the time. We are having the sprinkler system checked. That's not our issue. We'll wait and see if we need to put in gutters and a French drain when we come down. It's a preowned apparently the original owner had it looked at more than once but apparently didn't get it taken care of. When we bought the home the sprinkling system had not been on for quite a while so lawn was completely dry. But since it's just one side of her house I'm not as concerned.

[outlaw]

Yes...and I stand behind them. Their design must control the water. If it's not constructed to do so, then they are in violation and it must be fixed.

"they either control the water or they DON'T DEVELOP THE PROPERTY"

"If it's not constructed to do so, then they are in violation and it must be fixed."

So how did they get a permit if they didn't control the water?

[Polar Bear]

"they either control the water or they DON'T DEVELOP THE PROPERTY"

"If it's not constructed to do so, then they are in violation and it must be fixed."

So how did they get a permit if they didn't control the water?

I already answered that. They show control of the water in their design and they get their permit. If their project fails after construction, that's another issue altogether...and it must be fixed or they are in violation of their permit.

Control of the water is demonstrated in the design phase. That's the way engineering and development works. That's the control I was referring to. You want to continue your argument with parsing and semantics, knock yourself out.

[Simone]

How do I actually hire a realtor and a MLS agent? Will be looking to buy next month and only have a villages realtor so far.

[dbussone]

How do I actually hire a realtor and a MLS agent? Will be looking to buy next month and only have a villages realtor so far.


If you are looking for a new home, the TV realtors are the only choice you have. On a resale, both TV and MLS realtors are options.