View Full Version : Can coyotes jump walls?
kittygilchrist
09-07-2015, 09:28 AM
A friend with 5 dogs, each weighing about 1/3 of my cat's weight just emailed to ask me the question in the topic.
I have to post this for other courtyard pet owners, despite that I said in another thraed that I am taking a break from totv.
https://www.google.com/search?q=coyotes+jump+fence&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
KathieI
09-07-2015, 09:40 AM
A friend with 5 dogs, each weighing about 1/3 of my cat's weight just emailed to ask me the question in the topic.
I have to post this for other courtyard pet owners, despite that I said in another thraed that I am taking a break from totv.
https://www.google.com/search?q=coyotes+jump+fence&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
Kitty, first of all, sorry to hear your taking a break from TOTV, I hope all is well with you.
To answer your question, when I lived in Los Angeles and all our homes were surrounded with walls similar to CYVs, we still had coyotes getting into back yards and attack small pets. They are extremely clever and resourceful and if there is a way to get up and over a wall, they will find it. For instance, there might be a tree or bush that they could use to get on top of the wall and once there, they could easily jump down. We never let our pets outside on our property when we weren't at home or during the night for fear that they could be prey for coyotes or other animals. As an example, a few months ago I put my doggies outside on my lanai about 6am, at the first light, and found a huge possum with babies on her back, sitting on the top of my villa wall. Had no idea how she got up there but after examining the circumstances, realized that she used a tree or bush to get up there. Imagine my surprise and fear when I saw this. Attaching a picture for ya'll to see.
chuckinca
09-07-2015, 09:49 AM
A few years ago my nephew and his wife wanted to adopt a cat from the SPCA.
When they were filling out the paper work they were asked if the cat would be indoor only and they said they had a yard area with a 10 foot high masonry wall that they wanted to let the cat roam around. They were told that coyotes could get over 12 foot high walls and that if the cat couldn't be strictly indoor that they couldn't have it.
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graciegirl
09-07-2015, 10:20 AM
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Sandtrap328
09-07-2015, 11:10 AM
Common sense, please!
In the 6 years I have been here, I have heard ONE report of a dog being taken by a coyote. It was after midnight and off the leash. Sad, yes.
Never have I heard of a factual report of a dog or cat being taken from a lanai or courtyard by a wild animal.
Your pets are safe on lanais. A cat may jump over a courtyard wall. Keep cats indoors. Stay with your dog while it is in your courtyard.
Why be scared of a possum with babies sitting on the wall? Leave it alone just like you should leave any wild animal alone.
Taltarzac725
09-07-2015, 11:17 AM
http://www.azgfd.gov/pdfs/h_f/urban_coyote_faq.pdf
This is good. It is from the Arizona Game and Fish Department. It does describe how to make walls coyote proof.
I am working on getting the factual report of the cat taken off of the lanai in Lynnhaven on Livingston Loop. It may take some time. There was another one in Buttonwood that I seriously doubt someone is making up. Her friend/neighbor did post on here and I believe her.
A mother opossum will protect its young. That is the only critter our dogs have had encounters with here in Lynnhaven. Nothing happened but I had to pick up Sport as he was face-to-face with a mother opossum and barking up a storm. Sport was off leash as he usually stayed in the yard at night. Beau, our newer dog is a real chaser of anything. If he saw a coyote in our yard he would chase it and unfortunately that would not end well for him.
Coyotes like cat sized pets from research I have done. I doubt if a single one would take on a standard poodle, German Shepherd, or some other bigger dog. A group of them might.
gerryann
09-07-2015, 11:30 AM
A friend with 5 dogs, each weighing about 1/3 of my cat's weight just emailed to ask me the question in the topic.
I have to post this for other courtyard pet owners, despite that I said in another thraed that I am taking a break from totv.
https://www.google.com/search?q=coyotes+jump+fence&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
You may be taking a break from TOTV, but I see you are now taking your agenda to The Villages Facebook page.
It is true that we all need to take precautions with our pets, but Cmon Kitty, you are scaring folks that have not moved here yet. As far as anyone knows.....no Coyote has jumped over any wall here and taken any pets.
This is bordering on obsession, paranoia, and is getting ridiculous!
kittygilchrist
09-07-2015, 11:35 AM
Common sense, please!
In the 6 years I have been here, I have heard ONE report of a dog being taken by a coyote. It was after midnight and off the leash. Sad, yes.
Never have I heard of a factual report of a dog or cat being taken from a lanai or courtyard by a wild animal.
Your pets are safe on lanais. A cat may jump over a courtyard wall. Keep cats indoors. Stay with your dog while it is in your courtyard.
Why be scared of a possum with babies sitting on the wall? Leave it alone just like you should leave any wild animal alone.
Graphic warning. Stop here if you want to.
Coyote kills cat inside 6' or so fence. Scales fence with it dangling from his mouth.
Coyote Vs Cat - YouTube (http://youtu.be/wXYOvqt48VE)
Taltarzac725
09-07-2015, 11:37 AM
You may be taking a break from TOTV, but I see you are now taking your agenda to The Villages Facebook page.
It is true that we all need to take precautions with our pets, but Cmon Kitty, you are scaring folks that have not moved here yet. As far as anyone knows.....no Coyote has jumped over any wall here and taken any pets.
This is bordering on obsession, paranoia, and is getting ridiculous!
After Small Dog Is Carried off by a Coyote, The Neighbor (http://iheartdogs.com/after-small-dog-is-carried-off-by-a-coyote-the-neighbors-rottweiler-springs-into-action/)
A little humor.
Coyotes could be a problem in the newer developments south of CR466A especially since established coyotes were pushed out of their hunting grounds. I applaud Kitty for trying to educate people about this potential problem.
KathieI
09-07-2015, 11:38 AM
Common sense, please!
..... Why be scared of a possum with babies sitting on the wall? Leave it alone just like you should leave any wild animal alone.
This is EXACTLY why I do not post much on TOTV any longer, smart azzes who take things out of context....
I didn't say I touched it, or would do anything to it. Just answering the OP's question??? Scared?? You would be too if you saw this 50lb thing 6 feet away, although I was screened in and my dogs were barking at it. What about rabies, ticks, fleas, biting to protect her babies... How did I know if she would fall off the wall into my backyard..... all those things run through your mind as something is unfolding. Yadda, yadda, yadda....
Have a nice day.
kittygilchrist
09-07-2015, 11:45 AM
You may be taking a break from TOTV, but I see you are now taking your agenda to The Villages Facebook page.
It is true that we all need to take precautions with our pets, but Cmon Kitty, you are scaring folks that have not moved here yet. As far as anyone knows.....no Coyote has jumped over any wall here and taken any pets.
This is bordering on obsession, paranoia, and is getting ridiculous!
Graphic warning. Stop here if you want to.
Nothing personal...your opinion of my mental status is noted. This moment 220 more people know coyotes easily jump walls, kill and jump back over before eating.
Tag, 20 lb dog, inside 4 foot fence, remains found 100' outside fence.
Owners warn dog owners...
Coyote jumps fence, kills family dog in Golden (http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/9news-evenings/2014/02/23/1818110/)
xcaligirl
09-07-2015, 01:10 PM
Exactly the same reason why I haven't been on much. Seems like every time I do say anything, I either get blasted or removed.
DonH57
09-07-2015, 01:26 PM
I would think a Coyote would have to pole vault over a courtyard wall to get in.
kittygilchrist
09-07-2015, 01:36 PM
Exactly the same reason why I haven't been on much. Seems like every time I do say anything, I either get blasted or removed.
Tiresome. However, I am learning lots about how to keep myself and my pets safe. Some people object to my sharing that education, that, LOL, that might be how a coyote pack attacks.
Hey! Maybe I can learn about hostile TOTV posters watching coyote pack attacks!
Must be video of victims that escape getting eaten! (Lol, Tal, Email me about the rottweiler video..)
Amazing---no, utterly fascinating how the mind works, and what people will say to obstruct educational information.
Word is I am an obsessed, paranoid, ridiculous fear monger, scaring people who want to move here, causing panic, and whatever...
I was going to get off here and recharge...but I would rather take more name-calling than to allow courtyard dog owners to remain ignorant that coyotes jump walls.
If detractors are reading this and continue to imply that I am enjoying scaring people or have a mental problem, know that I am tired of being maligned.
Excali, thanks for risking to say what you did. That took courage.
kittygilchrist
09-07-2015, 01:55 PM
I would think a Coyote would have to pole vault over a courtyard wall to get in.
sigh...utterly fascinating.
Maybe SOME people will watch the videos.
I googled pole vaulting coyotes and there were no hits. Courtyard pets must be safe.
Wait! News flash! If you misspell Don as Dan and google Dan pole vault coyote...you sly dog, Don, you knew this already didn't you?
Wile E. Coyote's Pole Vault Challenge Online Game (http://www.dan-dare.org/FreeFun/Games/CartoonsMoviesTV/WileECoyote3.htm)
Chi-Town
09-07-2015, 02:15 PM
I think I know why Google (GOOG) is $600 a share
KathieI
09-07-2015, 02:19 PM
I would think a Coyote would have to pole vault over a courtyard wall to get in.
You didn't even read what was written?????
Bogie Shooter
09-07-2015, 02:41 PM
A friend with 5 dogs, each weighing about 1/3 of my cat's weight just emailed to ask me the question in the topic.
I have to post this for other courtyard pet owners, despite that I said in another thraed that I am taking a break from totv.
https://www.google.com/search?q=coyotes+jump+fence&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
5 dogs?
kittygilchrist
09-07-2015, 02:43 PM
5 dogs?
Why do you ask?
Moderator
09-07-2015, 02:51 PM
Please remain on topic, without directing comments against members. One may take precautions or not.
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birdawg
09-07-2015, 03:13 PM
Kitty keep up the good work.
kittygilchrist
09-07-2015, 03:41 PM
Kitty keep up the good work.
OK! Thank you!
Graphic text and video below! Warning stop reading if you want to.
Daisy's owner yelled her name after the coyote picked her up by the neck. Daisy was spared the neck breaking snap and lives!
There had been no previous coyote sightings in this neighborhood. 6 foot fence.
Coyote attacks dog in backyard of Westminster neighborhood | FOX31 Denver (http://kdvr.com/2015/08/07/coyote-attacks-dog-in-backyard-of-westminster-neighborhood/)
Barefoot
09-07-2015, 09:40 PM
You may be taking a break from TOTV, but I see you are now taking your agenda to The Villages Facebook page.
It is true that we all need to take precautions with our pets, but Cmon Kitty, you are scaring folks that have not moved here yet. As far as anyone knows.....no Coyote has jumped over any wall here and taken any pets.
This is bordering on obsession, paranoia, and is getting ridiculous!
From some of the posts, you would think pets are regularly disappearing from our lanais and courtyards. This is not true.
IMHO, scare tactics are unnecessary to make sure we are all watchful of our pets, make sure they are leashed, and don't walk after dark near ponds or remote areas.
Just common sense.
Topspinmo
09-07-2015, 10:10 PM
A friend with 5 dogs, each weighing about 1/3 of my cat's weight just emailed to ask me the question in the topic.
I have to post this for other courtyard pet owners, despite that I said in another thraed that I am taking a break from totv.
https://www.google.com/search?q=coyotes+jump+fence&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
I thought the limit for dogs was two in the villages??????
CFrance
09-07-2015, 10:14 PM
I thought the limit for dogs was two in the villages??????
You can move to TV with however many pets you have at the time.
Topspinmo
09-07-2015, 10:29 PM
So, I can really have as many pets as I want!
Barefoot
09-08-2015, 12:24 AM
You can move to TV with however many pets you have at the time.
Topspinmo
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So, I can really have as many pets as I want!
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Our Deed Restriction states two domestic pets per household.
I was told the reason is that The Villages does not want people breeding pets.
I've heard that the "unofficial" word from the Village Sales Reps is that you can move to The Villages with all your pets.
And then as your pets become old and die, you cannot replace all of them, you must adhere to the two pet maximum.
Taltarzac725
09-08-2015, 05:49 AM
What to do if you encounter a coyote while walking your dog (http://www.urbancoyoteproject.com/blog/2015/5/16/what-to-do-if-you-encounter-a-coyote-while-walking-your-dog)
Some more pointers about coyotes and common sense. The most important seems to be short leashes.
I really appreciate the work Kitty has done on increasing awareness of the problems especially in the areas of development in the Villages where coyotes homes so to speak have been disturbed. Most of the sightings which show up on her coyote sighting thread are in the new areas of the Villages near CR466A.
CFrance
09-08-2015, 06:51 AM
Topspinmo
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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So, I can really have as many pets as I want!
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Our Deed Restriction states two domestic pets per household.
I was told the reason is that The Villages does not want people breeding pets.
I've heard that the "unofficial" word from the Village Sales Reps is that you can move to The Villages with all your pets.
And then as your pets become old and die, you cannot replace all of them, you must adhere to the two pet maximum.
Agree. That seemed pretty clear in my original answer to Topspin, so I assumed he was trying to be facetious. And some have said on this forum that some areas have a one pet restriction.
Barefoot
09-08-2015, 09:19 AM
Agree. That seemed pretty clear in my original answer to Topspin, so I assumed he was trying to be facetious. And some have said on this forum that some areas have a one pet restriction.
I assumed all Villages had a two-pet per household restriction, but obviously not. :doggie: :doggie:
Warren posted that in his Village, there is a one-pet restriction. :shocked:
Taltarzac725
09-08-2015, 09:24 AM
I assumed all Villages had a two-pet per household restriction, but obviously not. :doggie: :doggie:
Warren posted that in his Village, there is a one-pet restriction. :shocked:
It varies from Village to Village. It seems that most of the Villages has a two pet rule for those pets you get while living in the Villages.
kittygilchrist
09-08-2015, 09:25 AM
Mod has warned against topic change. Seems like a natural conversation, but let's not make work for them. OK? :024:
Barefoot
09-08-2015, 10:58 AM
I thought the limit for dogs was two in the villages??????
You've been warned. Next time you go off topic, you'll have to go to the Principal's Office. ;)
I think with three Threads on coyotes, this subject has run out of steam. :popcorn:
kittygilchrist
09-08-2015, 11:21 AM
You've been warned. Next time you go off topic, you'll have to go to the Principal's Office. ;)
I think with three Threads on coyotes, this subject has run out of steam. :popcorn:
:agree:
What would do you think would happen if I cut the do not remove under penalty of law tag off a throw pillow? I have a guest coming.
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