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Guest
09-11-2015, 03:47 PM
The current administration hasn't learned a da-- thing from history or doesn't really care. Didn't learn anything from 911. Terrorists tried to destroy the American people and now the administration wants to help them get nuclear weapons. Now the administration wants to bring 10000 Syrians in to this country next not know who they are and burdening our economy and giving away our hard earned money. I just dont understand. There will be nothing left for our grandkids. Maybe nothing left for us. But be happy dont worry. BS. I still cant believe he ever made into office ,legally..

Guest
09-11-2015, 03:52 PM
The current administration hasn't learned a da-- thing from history or doesn't really care. Didn't learn anything from 911. Terrorists tried to destroy the American people and now the administration wants to help them get nuclear weapons. Now the administration wants to bring 10000 Syrians in to this country next not know who they are and burdening our economy and giving away our hard earned money. I just dont understand. There will be nothing left for our grandkids. Maybe nothing left for us. But be happy dont worry. BS. I still cant believe he ever made into office ,legally..

I hate to be pessimistic, but it may be too late.

Judging from the posters on here who violently and with great joy defend him.

Defend him for manipulating the congress to pass an ACA bill that whomever, of whatever party will need to tear down and start over, while the majority of americans opposed it.

Defend him for manipulating the congress to shut them down completely on a deal with Iran that 22% of americans support.

I can only assume from that and the fact that the alernatives for President are total and complete socialists (that includes Ms Clinton) that the battle is lost already.

Guest
09-11-2015, 04:36 PM
The current administration hasn't learned a da-- thing from history or doesn't really care. Didn't learn anything from 911. Terrorists tried to destroy the American people and now the administration wants to help them get nuclear weapons. Now the administration wants to bring 10000 Syrians in to this country next not know who they are and burdening our economy and giving away our hard earned money. I just dont understand. There will be nothing left for our grandkids. Maybe nothing left for us. But be happy dont worry. BS. I still cant believe he ever made into office ,legally..

it has always been this way...nothing new, but still depressing if you let it..

Guest
09-11-2015, 06:12 PM
The current administration hasn't learned a da-- thing from history or doesn't really care. Didn't learn anything from 911. Terrorists tried to destroy the American people and now the administration wants to help them get nuclear weapons. Now the administration wants to bring 10000 Syrians in to this country next not know who they are and burdening our economy and giving away our hard earned money. I just dont understand. There will be nothing left for our grandkids. Maybe nothing left for us. But be happy dont worry. BS. I still cant believe he ever made into office ,legally..

Obama has done more to advance the worldwide Jihad than any other Muslim leader in modern history.

He has now allowed for Iran to obtains nukes in a few years, and in effect, is sponsoring the latest Islamic invasion of Europe by allowing the creation of ISIS. The last invasion was in 1683 when the Christians repulsed the Islamic (ie Turkish) tide.

This guy grew up in Islam, understands the imperialistic jihad religion for what it is, and you have to conclude Obama knows exactly what's he's doing.

Guest
09-11-2015, 07:39 PM
Obama has done more to advance the worldwide Jihad than any other Muslim leader in modern history.

He has now allowed for Iran to obtains nukes in a few years, and in effect, is sponsoring the latest Islamic invasion of Europe by allowing the creation of ISIS. The last invasion was in 1683 when the Christians repulsed the Islamic (ie Turkish) tide.

This guy grew up in Islam, understands the imperialistic jihad religion for what it is, and you have to conclude Obama knows exactly what's he's doing.

:agree:

Guest
09-11-2015, 08:08 PM
It is amazing that you people actually believe the total nonsense that you are throwing out there. Here is his early history. Where the hell do you see that he grew up in Islam?

Obama was born on August 4, 1961,[2] at Kapiʻolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital (now Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children) in Honolulu, Hawaii,[3][4][5] and would become the first President to have been born in Hawaii.[6] His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, born in Wichita, Kansas, was of mostly English ancestry.[7] His father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Kenya. Obama's parents met in 1960 in a Russian language class at the University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa, where his father was a foreign student on scholarship.[8][9] The couple married in Wailuku on Maui on February 2, 1961,[10][11] and separated when, in late August 1961, Obama's mother moved with their newborn son to attend the University of Washington in Seattle for a year. During that time, Obama, Sr. completed his undergraduate economics degree in Hawaii in June 1962, then left to attend graduate school at Harvard University on a scholarship. Obama's parents divorced in March 1964.[12] Obama Sr. returned to Kenya in 1964 where he remarried; he visited Barack in Hawaii only once, in 1971.[13] He died in an automobile accident in 1982, his son being 21 years old at that time.[14]

In 1963, Dunham met Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian East–West Center graduate student in geography at the University of Hawaii, and the couple were married on Molokai on March 15, 1965.[15] After two one-year extensions of his J-1 visa, Lolo returned to Indonesia in 1966, followed sixteen months later by his wife and stepson in 1967, with the family initially living in a Menteng Dalam neighborhood in the Tebet subdistrict of south Ja****a, then from 1970 in a wealthier neighborhood in the Menteng subdistrict of central Ja****a.[16] From ages six to ten, Obama attended local Indonesian-language schools: St. Francis of Assisi Catholic School for two years and Besuki Public School for one and a half years, supplemented by English-language Calvert School homeschooling by his mother.[17]

Obama with his half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng, mother Ann Dunham and grandfather Stanley Dunham, in Honolulu, Hawaii
Obama returned to Honolulu in 1971 to live with his maternal grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, and with the aid of a scholarship attended Punahou School, a private college preparatory school, from fifth grade until his graduation from high school in 1979.[18] Obama lived with his mother and sister in Hawaii for three years from 1972 to 1975 while his mother was a graduate student in anthropology at the University of Hawaii.[19] Obama chose to stay in Hawaii with his grandparents for high school at Punahou when his mother and sister returned to Indonesia in 1975 so his mother could begin anthropology field work.[20] His mother spent most of the next two decades in Indonesia, divorcing Lolo in 1980 and earning a PhD degree in 1992, before dying in 1995 in Hawaii following treatment for ovarian cancer and uterine cancer

Guest
09-11-2015, 08:30 PM
It is amazing that you people actually believe the total nonsense that you are throwing out there. Here is his early history. Where the hell do you see that he grew up in Islam?

Obama was born on August 4, 1961,[2] at Kapiʻolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital (now Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children) in Honolulu, Hawaii,[3][4][5] and would become the first President to have been born in Hawaii.[6] His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, born in Wichita, Kansas, was of mostly English ancestry.[7] His father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Kenya. Obama's parents met in 1960 in a Russian language class at the University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa, where his father was a foreign student on scholarship.[8][9] The couple married in Wailuku on Maui on February 2, 1961,[10][11] and separated when, in late August 1961, Obama's mother moved with their newborn son to attend the University of Washington in Seattle for a year. During that time, Obama, Sr. completed his undergraduate economics degree in Hawaii in June 1962, then left to attend graduate school at Harvard University on a scholarship. Obama's parents divorced in March 1964.[12] Obama Sr. returned to Kenya in 1964 where he remarried; he visited Barack in Hawaii only once, in 1971.[13] He died in an automobile accident in 1982, his son being 21 years old at that time.[14]

In 1963, Dunham met Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian East–West Center graduate student in geography at the University of Hawaii, and the couple were married on Molokai on March 15, 1965.[15] After two one-year extensions of his J-1 visa, Lolo returned to Indonesia in 1966, followed sixteen months later by his wife and stepson in 1967, with the family initially living in a Menteng Dalam neighborhood in the Tebet subdistrict of south Ja****a, then from 1970 in a wealthier neighborhood in the Menteng subdistrict of central Ja****a.[16] From ages six to ten, Obama attended local Indonesian-language schools: St. Francis of Assisi Catholic School for two years and Besuki Public School for one and a half years, supplemented by English-language Calvert School homeschooling by his mother.[17]

Obama with his half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng, mother Ann Dunham and grandfather Stanley Dunham, in Honolulu, Hawaii
Obama returned to Honolulu in 1971 to live with his maternal grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, and with the aid of a scholarship attended Punahou School, a private college preparatory school, from fifth grade until his graduation from high school in 1979.[18] Obama lived with his mother and sister in Hawaii for three years from 1972 to 1975 while his mother was a graduate student in anthropology at the University of Hawaii.[19] Obama chose to stay in Hawaii with his grandparents for high school at Punahou when his mother and sister returned to Indonesia in 1975 so his mother could begin anthropology field work.[20] His mother spent most of the next two decades in Indonesia, divorcing Lolo in 1980 and earning a PhD degree in 1992, before dying in 1995 in Hawaii following treatment for ovarian cancer and uterine cancer


Amazing that you ignore the OP and The point of the thread.

Nobody accused him of anything. He was exposed to the Muslim faith early in his life, his father was a Muslim. All of that for what it is worth.

What do you feel about the point being made by the OP ?

Guest
09-11-2015, 10:49 PM
Amazing that you ignore the OP and The point of the thread.

Nobody accused him of anything. He was exposed to the Muslim faith early in his life, his father was a Muslim. All of that for what it is worth.

What do you feel about the point being made by the OP ?

you didn't read his early childhood, did you? He was born in early August, 1961. His father and mother split in late August, 1961. The inky early exposure he had to the Muslim faith was his name. Take a good look at the posts on this thread. You would think he was a devote Muslim.

The point of the thread is there isn't one. There are over 340 million people in the US. An additional 10,000 is going to destroy us. That is total nonsense. Remember Romney 47% don't pay taxes. That is about 150 million. An additional 10,000 isn't a pi$$ hole in the snow.

90% of the posters on this forum just want to blow off steam. Making stuff up just to get angry is a way of life.

Guest
09-12-2015, 04:59 AM
Obama's real father was not African, even though he was probably told that. Check out the background of Frank Marshall Davis, member of communist USA. Obama's grandfather used to visit this guy frequently with little Obama. Why? Good question. Davis was a black radical and Obama's grandfather was a white veteran. Does that make sense? Obama writes about Davis in his book. Read it. Also, Davis was having an affair with Obama's mother when she was a young teen. He wrote about it. Davis was married and his wife knew about it. Check out early photos of Davis and compare them with Obama and then compare his supposed African father's photos with him. Obama's mother got pregnant by a married man and had to find a legit father for the baby. She met Obama senior and hooked up with him for a very/very short time. She didn't know he was already married so their marriage was not legit. Sound far fetched? Do a little research. It's interesting, but no longer relevant. The point is that Obama is a fraud, and a large liberal majority elected him, not once but twice. What a bunch of idiots! Stupid as well, since they were con'd twice. All of this is supposition from my reading a lot in an attempt to learn more about a very secretive Obama. Some of it was gleaned from his books, and some from other sources. Like I said, it is all just theory, but since his life has been so questionable, a lot of folks have dug into his past. It doesn't matter now, other than to prove how stupid some Americans are for voting for radical, twice.

I never doubted that Obama was an American. But, I have never doubted that Obama hates the American way. He was born in America, but he sure doesn't act like an American.

And yes, he was raised in an Islamic/Muslim environment, and prayed to Islam.

Guest
09-12-2015, 06:51 AM
People will believe what they want to believe myself I believe what I see and the action of a person. I really dont care about your past .

Guest
09-12-2015, 07:04 AM
People will believe what they want to believe myself I believe what I see and the action of a person. I really dont care about your past .

Actions do speak louder than words.

Give me one example where Obama openly condems radical islamic terrorists. Just one.

On the other hand he provides all kinds of examples of poor judgement; one example? Counseling with Al Sharpton on which black issues to make a national example.

He is what he is. A racist person with a warm spot for Islamaic anything that duped the American voters (the ones that voted for him that is) that were more enamored with his rhetoric than who or what he was and is. Add to that those dumb enough to fall for the first black president BS!

Guest
09-12-2015, 07:15 AM
People will believe what they want to believe myself I believe what I see and the action of a person. I really dont care about your past .

Hmm, when you say you "...really don't care about a person's past" in the context of better evaluating who / she is, what you're really saying is you're an idiot who thinks he's somehow morally superior for not taking important info into account

Guest
09-12-2015, 08:59 AM
:thumbup:Actions do speak louder than words.

Give me one example where Obama openly condems radical islamic terrorists. Just one.

On the other hand he provides all kinds of examples of poor judgement; one example? Counseling with Al Sharpton on which black issues to make a national example.

He is what he is. A racist person with a warm spot for Islamaic anything that duped the American voters (the ones that voted for him that is) that were more enamored with his rhetoric than who or what he was and is. Add to that those dumb enough to fall for the first black president BS!

Spot on :thumbup:

Guest
09-12-2015, 09:17 AM
The current administration hasn't learned a da-- thing from history or doesn't really care. Didn't learn anything from 911. Terrorists tried to destroy the American people and now the administration wants to help them get nuclear weapons. Now the administration wants to bring 10000 Syrians in to this country next not know who they are and burdening our economy and giving away our hard earned money. I just dont understand. There will be nothing left for our grandkids. Maybe nothing left for us. But be happy dont worry. BS. I still cant believe he ever made into office ,legally..









10000 is not enough - we have room to help many more than that. And we should - and will

Guest
09-12-2015, 09:43 AM
10000 is not enough - we have room to help many more than that. And we should - and will

You first. You are willing to use other folks' money and time to do it, right? Sorry, but the majority of Americans do NOT want them here. We have enough radical enemies here as it is. Liberals need these folks so that they can get some more votes.

Guest
09-12-2015, 10:05 AM
Actions do speak louder than words.

Give me one example where Obama openly condems radical islamic terrorists. Just one.

On the other hand he provides all kinds of examples of poor judgement; one example? Counseling with Al Sharpton on which black issues to make a national example.

He is what he is. A racist person with a warm spot for Islamaic anything that duped the American voters (the ones that voted for him that is) that were more enamored with his rhetoric than who or what he was and is. Add to that those dumb enough to fall for the first black president BS!

The numerous drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration clearly indicate his desire to destroy Islamic terrorists or whatever else you want to call them. Obama's drone strikes are more than 9 times the number of strikes under Bush. Plenty of additional strikes have been carried out since this article was written in January.

So hot shot, there is your "one" example. At least you got the actions speak louder than words part correct, which is a milestone for you since it happens so rarely.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/02/02/almost-2500-killed-covert-us-drone-strikes-obama-inauguration/

Guest
09-12-2015, 10:20 AM
The numerous drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration clearly indicate his desire to destroy Islamic terrorists or whatever else you want to call them. Obama's drone strikes are more than 9 times the number of strikes under Bush. Plenty of additional strikes have been carried out since this article was written in January.

So hot shot, there is your "one" example. At least you got the actions speak louder than words part correct, which is a milestone for you since it happens so rarely.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/02/02/almost-2500-killed-covert-us-drone-strikes-obama-inauguration/

Look at the bigger strategic picture, if you are able to do so, and stop apologizing and defending Obama simply because you are a Dummycrat. We're talking about the future of the country and western civilization and your petty pot shots are pathetically irrelevant.

Obama's ACTIONS, overall, have advanced the jihad worldwide. That is obvious at this point.

Guest
09-12-2015, 10:24 AM
10000 is not enough - we have room to help many more than that. And we should - and will

Yes, agree.

We start with your spare bedrooms and garage. I'm guessing you can take at least 3 families and kids.

You are a wonderful human being ... stupid, but wonderful.

ps your stupidity is also the reason why Trump will be the next President ... because normal people are FED UP with your kind of moronic emoting and non-thinking.

Guest
09-12-2015, 11:08 AM
The numerous drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration clearly indicate his desire to destroy Islamic terrorists or whatever else you want to call them. Obama's drone strikes are more than 9 times the number of strikes under Bush. Plenty of additional strikes have been carried out since this article was written in January.

So hot shot, there is your "one" example. At least you got the actions speak louder than words part correct, which is a milestone for you since it happens so rarely.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/02/02/almost-2500-killed-covert-us-drone-strikes-obama-inauguration/

Interesting post.

This is pretty accurate although I do not care for the website but the numbers appear to be spot on.

Funny, this poster would join others in condemning ALL conservatives and ALL Republicans as war mongers and always wanting to bomb.

Actually Obama has dropped bombs in more countries that Bush and that you can check but it is accurate.

Difference is comittment. Obama bombed Libya, for regime change I might add...something Bush is oft criticized for, and then walked away turning that country over to the terrorists.

Many...a very large percentage of the immigrants are from Libya.

Syria was another example. In that country we KNEW that citizens were being bombed, and knew that children were being slaughtered in the street, as well as being gassed and left lying in the streets.

We huffed and puffed and even drew a red line, then we simply ignored it and sent a few drones over....ILLEGALLY I might add since no UN resolution allowed it.

MOST of the immigrants are coming from Syria.

This President said we had a 60 nation coalition to fight the terrorists.....then late last year very quietly it was referred to as 40 nation and now.....tell me...where is his coalition to fight terrorism in the ME ?

Point is, you went away from the actual subject of this thread to defend your president, but the fact is......ISIS has grown significantly in this administration, AlQueda had gotten another breath and foothold, we are about to...well, actually we are in the quick process of getting a lot of money to the single largest sponsor of terrorism ever seen on earth. We have allowed Libya to fall, we have allowed Yemen to fall, and I say WE because it is a fact that they are in the hands of terrorist because of actions taken by this administration and the woman who wants to succeed in the WH.

Not sure why you feel the need to defend this President. The thread was about refugees, the terrible threat they pose to our country.

So much of this problem could have been addressed years ago with some kind of action other than drone strikes which by the way, kill so many many innocent citizens.

So stick with the refugee problem...I just wanted you to know that you were right...he beat Bush with killing with drones but wanted to add a bit more substance to the story you were telling

Guest
09-12-2015, 11:21 AM
Look at the bigger strategic picture, if you are able to do so, and stop apologizing and defending Obama simply because you are a Dummycrat. We're talking about the future of the country and western civilization and your petty pot shots are pathetically irrelevant.

Obama's ACTIONS, overall, have advanced the jihad worldwide. That is obvious at this point.

To the person that this was directed at, look at the bigger picture. The far right will not listen to, or read anything that doesn't support the warped view of President Obama. All they do is follow Trump's lead, and talk in extremes. Future of the country and western civilization is a perfect example. Germany, England ,and France apparently aren't part of western civilization. If they were, why would they sign the agreement with Iran, and take in as many Syrian refugees as they have. Let me guess! Socialist countries that don't have a problem with jihad. Not only do they not have a problem it, but they support it.

They talk about petty shots but 90% of them make a habit of calling people names. For some reason known only to them, they think it bothers adults.

One person here stated Democrats are letting refugees in the US for their votes. How do you even begin to address that?

The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

Guest
09-12-2015, 11:35 AM
The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

Then you obviously don't understand the modern Democrat Left of which you are a part ... not surprising actually

Guest
09-12-2015, 11:37 AM
To the person that this was directed at, look at the bigger picture. The far right will not listen to, or read anything that doesn't support the warped view of President Obama. All they do is follow Trump's lead, and talk in extremes. Future of the country and western civilization is a perfect example. Germany, England ,and France apparently aren't part of western civilization. If they were, why would they sign the agreement with Iran, and take in as many Syrian refugees as they have. Let me guess! Socialist countries that don't have a problem with jihad. Not only do they not have a problem it, but they support it.

They talk about petty shots but 90% of them make a habit of calling people names. For some reason known only to them, they think it bothers adults.

One person here stated Democrats are letting refugees in the US for their votes. How do you even begin to address that?

The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

Let us begin with the basics.

Trump entered this political arena less than 3 months ago....THREE MONTHS and you mention him as some kind of leader. THREE MONTHS.

Now I listened very hard to Obama when he ran for President and while I had my concerns I certainly did nothing but profess my fears.

Problem is HE HAS LIED to all of us....he has single handldly destroyed congress and how it is supposed to work....he has taken such a wonderful opportunity to bring the country closer together racially and has made the divide now so wide...and he did that with his actions, not innuendos....he has strapped this country with one of the biggest single financial disasters ever (the ACA) I assume you are up to date on the fact that this law is not even in affect yet fully and the cost to our government is going to be astronomical and he did this with less than 50% of americans wanting that particular bill and by manipulating the rules of the US Congress.....he is pushing the USA into a deal on Iran that is supported by about 22% of americans..TWENTY TWO..not a mistype and he did that with political backroom theatrics and still could not convince his own party of its merits.

I am not calling you names....not calling our President names...simply stating facts.

You agree on Sharpton ? THINK for a minute. Sharpton has been a tax cheat, felon who has lied his entire career, YET your President puts his total trust in him. Does that make you feel good about the judgement being used in the WH ?

Guest
09-12-2015, 11:37 AM
10000 is not enough - we have room to help many more than that. And we should - and will

After you take a couple Muslim refugees into your house to live with you and your spouse, please be careful. If you look at any of the photographs or videos, MOST of the refugees are military age Muslim males.

Thus, while your kindness is just wonderfully heart warming, please make sure they don't behead any of you friends or blow your house up.

Guest
09-12-2015, 12:25 PM
Liberals want the refugees? OK, but just remember that when they start beating and killing gays, and women you are going to run out of liberal voters. shria law, you know.

Guest
09-12-2015, 01:37 PM
To the person that this was directed at, look at the bigger picture. The far right will not listen to, or read anything that doesn't support the warped view of President Obama. All they do is follow Trump's lead, and talk in extremes. Future of the country and western civilization is a perfect example. Germany, England ,and France apparently aren't part of western civilization. If they were, why would they sign the agreement with Iran, and take in as many Syrian refugees as they have. Let me guess! Socialist countries that don't have a problem with jihad. Not only do they not have a problem it, but they support it.

They talk about petty shots but 90% of them make a habit of calling people names. For some reason known only to them, they think it bothers adults.

One person here stated Democrats are letting refugees in the US for their votes. How do you even begin to address that?

The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

While other posters have pointed out the inaccuracies in your post, allow me to post a REASON for one of your inaccuracies.

You mention Trump.....the NEW 3 MONTH OLD TRUMP as the leader.

WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO HIM ?

Because they are sick of the last 6 years, the poised, slick lies told to the country and, in my opinion, the ridiculing of the american people by our President.

THAT is why the people are listening to Trump.

Guest
09-12-2015, 01:57 PM
America now has two solutions to the mass influx of liberalism.

1. Planned Parenthood
2. Muslim refugees (sharia law)

The future of the Republican party is assured.

Guest
09-12-2015, 04:39 PM
Let us begin with the basics.

Trump entered this political arena less than 3 months ago....THREE MONTHS and you mention him as some kind of leader. THREE MONTHS.

Now I listened very hard to Obama when he ran for President and while I had my concerns I certainly did nothing but profess my fears.

Problem is HE HAS LIED to all of us....he has single handldly destroyed congress and how it is supposed to work....he has taken such a wonderful opportunity to bring the country closer together racially and has made the divide now so wide...and he did that with his actions, not innuendos....he has strapped this country with one of the biggest single financial disasters ever (the ACA) I assume you are up to date on the fact that this law is not even in affect yet fully and the cost to our government is going to be astronomical and he did this with less than 50% of americans wanting that particular bill and by manipulating the rules of the US Congress.....he is pushing the USA into a deal on Iran that is supported by about 22% of americans..TWENTY TWO..not a mistype and he did that with political backroom theatrics and still could not convince his own party of its merits.

I am not calling you names....not calling our President names...simply stating facts.

You agree on Sharpton ? THINK for a minute. Sharpton has been a tax cheat, felon who has lied his entire career, YET your President puts his total trust in him. Does that make you feel good about the judgement being used in the WH ?


What I said was "following Trump's lead"! That doesn't make him a leader. The posters here are using that same tactic as Trump by always using the extremes, ie: best, worst, etc. He obviously set the example, and posters here are following his example.

You have got to kidding on the Obama has single handedly destroyed congress, and how it works. So, the filibuster king, Mitch McConnell, skates all responsibility for congresses meltdown. The Tea Party has taken out almost all moderate Republicans, and that is Obama's fault. "Give us our country back". That comment was made early in his presidency, but he is the problem!

Back up the ACA comment with facts. Here is a fact for you the Kaiser Research Group stated from 1999 to 2009 the increase in health insurance premiums was 131%, and inflation during that period was 28%. You don't think that those types of increases, and the causes had to be addressed.

There is so much misinformation being spread about the Iran deal that has lead to the 22%. The Democrats in the Senate looked into in great detail the agreement, went into many classified meetings, contacted other countries involved in the sanctions, and then voted based upon what they found, and the alternatives. The Republicans rejected the deal before they even saw it. What was the alternative, a better deal.

Colin Powell says that the deal, if Iran complies, is a good deal. His comments are totally dismissed due to the color of his skin. That speaks volumes for the far right.

Guest
09-12-2015, 04:57 PM
What I said was "following Trump's lead"! That doesn't make him a leader. The posters here are using that same tactic as Trump by always using the extremes, ie: best, worst, etc. He obviously set the example, and posters here are following his example.

You have got to kidding on the Obama has single handedly destroyed congress, and how it works. So, the filibuster king, Mitch McConnell, skates all responsibility for congresses meltdown. The Tea Party has taken out almost all moderate Republicans, and that is Obama's fault. "Give us our country back". That comment was made early in his presidency, but he is the problem!

Back up the ACA comment with facts. Here is a fact for you the Kaiser Research Group stated from 1999 to 2009 the increase in health insurance premiums was 131%, and inflation during that period was 28%. You don't think that those types of increases, and the causes had to be addressed.

There is so much misinformation being spread about the Iran deal that has lead to the 22%. The Democrats in the Senate looked into in great detail the agreement, went into many classified meetings, contacted other countries involved in the sanctions, and then voted based upon what they found, and the alternatives. The Republicans rejected the deal before they even saw it. What was the alternative, a better deal.

Colin Powell says that the deal, if Iran complies, is a good deal. His comments are totally dismissed due to the color of his skin. That speaks volumes for the far right.


You just made up stuff to post.

First how dare you, in any way, accuse posters of racism as relates to Powell. You simply made that charge up, which is becoming typical.

You do know that the ACA has not even taken effect yet, and the numbers you cite include those who had no premium when this began.

And finally because your accusation of racism which has become the standard yell of you folks under all circumstances is very insulting. I will just suggest you read the acts of Reid, etal on the ACA, the bribe paid to LA to get that final vote, and the gyrations used on Iran.

That's it.....stop with your racial crap. If you don't know anything, hust keep your mouth shut and stop with general scattergun racist remarks.

Disgusting, not only you your blatant racism but your simply espousing far left propaganda, which is old, been disproved.

But what do I know, being a racist and all

Guest
09-12-2015, 05:26 PM
What I said was "following Trump's lead"! That doesn't make him a leader. The posters here are using that same tactic as Trump by always using the extremes, ie: best, worst, etc. He obviously set the example, and posters here are following his example.

You have got to kidding on the Obama has single handedly destroyed congress, and how it works. So, the filibuster king, Mitch McConnell, skates all responsibility for congresses meltdown. The Tea Party has taken out almost all moderate Republicans, and that is Obama's fault. "Give us our country back". That comment was made early in his presidency, but he is the problem!

Back up the ACA comment with facts. Here is a fact for you the Kaiser Research Group stated from 1999 to 2009 the increase in health insurance premiums was 131%, and inflation during that period was 28%. You don't think that those types of increases, and the causes had to be addressed.

There is so much misinformation being spread about the Iran deal that has lead to the 22%. The Democrats in the Senate looked into in great detail the agreement, went into many classified meetings, contacted other countries involved in the sanctions, and then voted based upon what they found, and the alternatives. The Republicans rejected the deal before they even saw it. What was the alternative, a better deal.

Colin Powell says that the deal, if Iran complies, is a good deal. His comments are totally dismissed due to the color of his skin. That speaks volumes for the far right.

More liberal propaganda. Too bad you are so brainwashed that you believe all the :censored: that they feed you. Instead of attempting to defend with myths, try being the open minded liberal that your ideology suggests and look at the truth.

What was the big Obamacare todo all about? It was supposed to make health care more affordable for EVERYONE. What did it do? My premiums went up 50% in one year. My daughter's deductible went up 20% in one year and her premiums went up about the same or more. Folks that paid cash for their medical are now required to "purchase" insurance or pay a fine. Medicare that we paid all our working lives for, is now being stolen from by almost a trillion bucks to help pay for those that don't have insurance. STOLEN!! We are now required to pay for abortions, that is supposed to be unconstitutional, but have to pay for anyway. Business owners have to pay for health insurance and have closed down because of it. My daughter-in-law sold her business because she couldn't afford the changes in the healthcare laws. These are things that you gloss over or will deny and accuse others of lying. Now, a process/test that my wife's oncologist requires periodically to make sure she is cancer free, is no longer affordable. It used to be covered by our insurance. Don't tell me how great Obamacare is.
You can deny how the recession started all you want, but one fact remains, when 9/11 caused the crash of the stock market and my 401K went down the tube, it didn't take the Bush administration a year to get the economy back up on it's feet. He may not have had much to do with it, but he definitely didn't hinder it, like this administration has. This administration is still holding up the economy recovery and has cost us more money than any other administration combined all the way back to G.Washington. And when Obama is gone the economy will still be attempting to recover. Our children will feel the effect.
With Obama:
More folks on food stamps than ever
More folks quit the job market than ever
More folks below poverty level
More blacks unemployed than ever
More blacks aborted than born last year
Lower middle class lifestyle
Larger terrorist threat than ever
Lies about number of deportations
Too many negative things associated with this administration.
Lies about Benqhazi
Panel to decide whether or not you get healthcare treatment

When are you going to be a man and quit lying about the Tea Party. They had nothing to do with anything except focus on constitutional values. You still haven't told me one thing that you know as fact about them. I asked you before and you simply CAN'T answer. You know nothing and it's not like it is a secret Mason handshake or anything. Tell me what you don't like about what the Tea Party stands for.

Are you against smaller government?
Are you against a gov guided by the constitution?

What are you against? Do you even know? Write to Reid and Pelosi and get back to me.

Guest
09-12-2015, 06:02 PM
More liberal propaganda. Too bad you are so brainwashed that you believe all the :censored: that they feed you. Instead of attempting to defend with myths, try being the open minded liberal that your ideology suggests and look at the truth.

What was the big Obamacare todo all about? It was supposed to make health care more affordable for EVERYONE. What did it do? My premiums went up 50% in one year. My daughter's deductible went up 20% in one year and her premiums went up about the same or more. Folks that paid cash for their medical are now required to "purchase" insurance or pay a fine. Medicare that we paid all our working lives for, is now being stolen from by almost a trillion bucks to help pay for those that don't have insurance. STOLEN!! We are now required to pay for abortions, that is supposed to be unconstitutional, but have to pay for anyway. Business owners have to pay for health insurance and have closed down because of it. My daughter-in-law sold her business because she couldn't afford the changes in the healthcare laws. These are things that you gloss over or will deny and accuse others of lying. Now, a process/test that my wife's oncologist requires periodically to make sure she is cancer free, is no longer affordable. It used to be covered by our insurance. Don't tell me how great Obamacare is.
You can deny how the recession started all you want, but one fact remains, when 9/11 caused the crash of the stock market and my 401K went down the tube, it didn't take the Bush administration a year to get the economy back up on it's feet. He may not have had much to do with it, but he definitely didn't hinder it, like this administration has. This administration is still holding up the economy recovery and has cost us more money than any other administration combined all the way back to G.Washington. And when Obama is gone the economy will still be attempting to recover. Our children will feel the effect.
With Obama:
More folks on food stamps than ever
More folks quit the job market than ever
More folks below poverty level
More blacks unemployed than ever
More blacks aborted than born last year
Lower middle class lifestyle
Larger terrorist threat than ever
Lies about number of deportations
Too many negative things associated with this administration.
Lies about Benqhazi
Panel to decide whether or not you get healthcare treatment

When are you going to be a man and quit lying about the Tea Party. They had nothing to do with anything except focus on constitutional values. You still haven't told me one thing that you know as fact about them. I asked you before and you simply CAN'T answer. You know nothing and it's not like it is a secret Mason handshake or anything. Tell me what you don't like about what the Tea Party stands for.

Are you against smaller government?
Are you against a gov guided by the constitution?

What are you against? Do you even know? Write to Reid and Pelosi and get back to me.

:bigbow:

Guest
09-12-2015, 11:33 PM
There is so much misinformation being spread about the Iran deal that has lead to the 22%. The Democrats in the Senate looked into in great detail the agreement, went into many classified meetings, contacted other countries involved in the sanctions, and then voted based upon what they found, and the alternatives. The Republicans rejected the deal before they even saw it. What was the alternative, a better deal.


Let's face it ... you are a genuine, no questions asked, left wing true believer.

22% of the people support this giveaway because they're subject to misinformation etc. ??? Really?

Pathetic ... how about 3/4 of the people have enough common sense to reject it. But Obama is leading a jihad ... literally and people like you are just too stupid (no other word for it) to even realize much less admit the obvious.

Nice Dummycrat "victory" ... by selling out the country.

Guest
09-13-2015, 06:04 AM
Let's face it ... you are a genuine, no questions asked, left wing true believer.

22% of the people support this giveaway because they're subject to misinformation etc. ??? Really?

Pathetic ... how about 3/4 of the people have enough common sense to reject it. But Obama is leading a jihad ... literally and people like you are just too stupid (no other word for it) to even realize much less admit the obvious.

Nice Dummycrat "victory" ... by selling out the country.

:agree:

Guest
09-13-2015, 06:34 AM
10000 is not enough - we have room to help many more than that. And we should - and will

Dear Guest: This immigration crisis resulting from the the violence of radical Islam terrorist is the worse disaster since the 1940's.

Europe still with over whelming guilt because of the Holocaust and driven by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights has mistakenly and continues to admit people into their countries who cannot relate or wish to assimilate into their respective societies.

Once a country begins admitting refugees it will great an opening that will grow to an unmanageable economic and social level. Secondly it is virtually impossible to effect security measures that will ferret out terrorists. A policy of asylum while compassionate needs to be tough minded enough to cut off the flow by providing preventable measures that created it and to secure one's borders.

Simply stated America should not accept these refugees but provide resources at their home of origins and work with membering nations to defeat the Islamic terrorists creating their reason to leave.

Again we have the madness and manifest incompetence of this Administration's ineffective policies.

P.S. People can argue and guess about Obama's birth place ,religious beliefs, etc. But that old saw "the proof is in the pudding" prevails. Obama by omission or commission has shown himself to align with Muslims, is surrounded with staff who are Muslim and in just about any manner has never shown respect for America, its service men and women and the American people. He is Muslim, Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright bred

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
09-13-2015, 07:21 AM
Dear Guest: This immigration crisis resulting from the the violence of radical Islam terrorist is the worse disaster since the 1940's.

Europe still with over whelming guilt because of the Holocaust and driven by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights has mistakenly and continues to admit people into their countries who cannot relate or wish to assimilate into their respective societies.

Once a country begins admitting refugees it will great an opening that will grow to an unmanageable economic and social level. Secondly it is virtually impossible to effect security measures that will ferret out terrorists. A policy of asylum while compassionate needs to be tough minded enough to cut off the flow by providing preventable measures that created it and to secure one's borders.

Simply stated America should not accept these refugees but provide resources at their home of origins and work with membering nations to defeat the Islamic terrorists creating their reason to leave.

Again we have the madness and manifest incompetence of this Administration's ineffective policies.

P.S. People can argue and guess about Obama's birth place ,religious beliefs, etc. But that old saw "the proof is in the pudding" prevails. Obama by omission or commission has shown himself to align with Muslims, is surrounded with staff who are Muslim and in just about any manner has never shown respect for America, its service men and women and the American people. He is Muslim, Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright bred

Personal Best Regards:

:thumbup:

Guest
09-13-2015, 07:26 AM
Let's face it ... you are a genuine, no questions asked, left wing true believer.

22% of the people support this giveaway because they're subject to misinformation etc. ??? Really?

Pathetic ... how about 3/4 of the people have enough common sense to reject it. But Obama is leading a jihad ... literally and people like you are just too stupid (no other word for it) to even realize much less admit the obvious.

Nice Dummycrat "victory" ... by selling out the country.

When each Democratic senator looked into the agreement with great detail, and the alternatives before voting for it, they have no common sense. Colin Powell likes the deal, if it implemented, he is a racist. All the other in P5plus1 approved the deal, they are only looking out for themselves. The United Nations approved the deal, what do they know. It is always something isn't it.

3/4 of Americans, who have never seen the deal, are smarter than the rest of the world. My, don't we a lot of ourselves! Obama is leading a jihad against the holier than thou far right. You know the all knowing, all seeing, never wrong, closed minded far right. The far right than have moved so far right they are off the grid. When a moderate, who hasn't changed his/her views, is called a left wing liberal, he/she isn't the problem.

Your own party has tried to disown the far right, but can't. Why? Because closed minded will never admit they are wrong. For them name calling and fear is the name of the game, and they excel at it.

Guest
09-13-2015, 07:33 AM
Dear Guest: This immigration crisis resulting from the the violence of radical Islam terrorist is the worse disaster since the 1940's.

Europe still with over whelming guilt because of the Holocaust and driven by the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights has mistakenly and continues to admit people into their countries who cannot relate or wish to assimilate into their respective societies.

Once a country begins admitting refugees it will great an opening that will grow to an unmanageable economic and social level. Secondly it is virtually impossible to effect security measures that will ferret out terrorists. A policy of asylum while compassionate needs to be tough minded enough to cut off the flow by providing preventable measures that created it and to secure one's borders.

Simply stated America should not accept these refugees but provide resources at their home of origins and work with membering nations to defeat the Islamic terrorists creating their reason to leave.

Again we have the madness and manifest incompetence of this Administration's ineffective policies.

P.S. People can argue and guess about Obama's birth place ,religious beliefs, etc. But that old saw "the proof is in the pudding" prevails. Obama by omission or commission has shown himself to align with Muslims, is surrounded with staff who are Muslim and in just about any manner has never shown respect for America, its service men and women and the American people. He is Muslim, Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright bred

Personal Best Regards:

Obama concisely identified, without a doubt.

Guest
09-13-2015, 09:27 AM
When each Democratic senator looked into the agreement with great detail, and the alternatives before voting for it, they have no common sense. Colin Powell likes the deal, if it implemented, he is a racist. All the other in P5plus1 approved the deal, they are only looking out for themselves. The United Nations approved the deal, what do they know. It is always something isn't it.

3/4 of Americans, who have never seen the deal, are smarter than the rest of the world. My, don't we a lot of ourselves! Obama is leading a jihad against the holier than thou far right. You know the all knowing, all seeing, never wrong, closed minded far right. The far right than have moved so far right they are off the grid. When a moderate, who hasn't changed his/her views, is called a left wing liberal, he/she isn't the problem.

Your own party has tried to disown the far right, but can't. Why? Because closed minded will never admit they are wrong. For them name calling and fear is the name of the game, and they excel at it.

Your posts are a joy to read ... because they are so unintentionally comical. You use the term "far right" multiple times. What a joke. This is like muttering a drug induced chant or something, probably intended to ward off evil spirits?

What you call Far Right is simple to explain ... common sense, of which you apparently have none. Just because you smear it by name calling doesn't change the facts on the ground.

The only thing that will ever change you mind on this is apparently seeing a mushroom cloud over an American City. My prediction ... you will still have "doubts" about it and perhaps find a way to blame the US anyway.

Guest
09-13-2015, 09:31 AM
When each Democratic senator looked into the agreement with great detail, and the alternatives before voting for it, they have no common sense. Colin Powell likes the deal, if it implemented, he is a racist. All the other in P5plus1 approved the deal, they are only looking out for themselves. The United Nations approved the deal, what do they know. It is always something isn't it.

3/4 of Americans, who have never seen the deal, are smarter than the rest of the world. My, don't we a lot of ourselves! Obama is leading a jihad against the holier than thou far right. You know the all knowing, all seeing, never wrong, closed minded far right. The far right than have moved so far right they are off the grid. When a moderate, who hasn't changed his/her views, is called a left wing liberal, he/she isn't the problem.

Your own party has tried to disown the far right, but can't. Why? Because closed minded will never admit they are wrong. For them name calling and fear is the name of the game, and they excel at it.

Your point is well taken in some regards.

However, allow me.....the ranking democrat on the Foreign Relations comm will vote against the deal. I would assume that he (Cardin) is well informed along with the other dems who will vote against.

I think you have it mixed up. A poster or two on here have said that anyone opposed is racist because of Powell. You cannot have it both ways in the need to call racist.

EVERYONE knew that the other parties in this deal wanted it badly. They do not have the ties to Israel that we used to have....they have had business deals and want the sanctions to end for their own economy.

The americans, 3/4 of them, of course do not have the knowledge of Sen Cardin but they see a very famaliar pattern emerging. If you have read the links supplied about the backroom arm twisting in congress on this deal, the rush to the UN to make congress look bad, and the minipulation to dis allow even a vote, it is eerily like the ACA bill.

We have bowed to Russia, etc so their economy can thrive.....we make certain conditions when negotiations began AND THEN THE COUNTRY WAS INTERESTED. We gave in on ALL points during negotiations. The President is ignoring the american citizens on this and is playing his political games once again.....and by the way, he is good at it, but I always hoped that statesmanship would trump party.....that the good of our country would trump party.

And speakng of Trump....he is getting attention because of our President and his politicking. Americans are just sick of it....not just his side, but his side has really gotten good at it and are forcing our country down a very slippery slope.

Guest
09-13-2015, 10:51 AM
Your point is well taken in some regards.

However, allow me.....the ranking democrat on the Foreign Relations comm will vote against the deal. I would assume that he (Cardin) is well informed along with the other dems who will vote against.

I think you have it mixed up. A poster or two on here have said that anyone opposed is racist because of Powell. You cannot have it both ways in the need to call racist.

EVERYONE knew that the other parties in this deal wanted it badly. They do not have the ties to Israel that we used to have....they have had business deals and want the sanctions to end for their own economy.

The americans, 3/4 of them, of course do not have the knowledge of Sen Cardin but they see a very famaliar pattern emerging. If you have read the links supplied about the backroom arm twisting in congress on this deal, the rush to the UN to make congress look bad, and the minipulation to dis allow even a vote, it is eerily like the ACA bill.

We have bowed to Russia, etc so their economy can thrive.....we make certain conditions when negotiations began AND THEN THE COUNTRY WAS INTERESTED. We gave in on ALL points during negotiations. The President is ignoring the american citizens on this and is playing his political games once again.....and by the way, he is good at it, but I always hoped that statesmanship would trump party.....that the good of our country would trump party.

And speakng of Trump....he is getting attention because of our President and his politicking. Americans are just sick of it....not just his side, but his side has really gotten good at it and are forcing our country down a very slippery slope.

:agree:

Guest
09-13-2015, 08:24 PM
Your point is well taken in some regards.

However, allow me.....the ranking democrat on the Foreign Relations comm will vote against the deal. I would assume that he (Cardin) is well informed along with the other dems who will vote against.

I think you have it mixed up. A poster or two on here have said that anyone opposed is racist because of Powell. You cannot have it both ways in the need to call racist.

EVERYONE knew that the other parties in this deal wanted it badly. They do not have the ties to Israel that we used to have....they have had business deals and want the sanctions to end for their own economy.

The americans, 3/4 of them, of course do not have the knowledge of Sen Cardin but they see a very famaliar pattern emerging. If you have read the links supplied about the backroom arm twisting in congress on this deal, the rush to the UN to make congress look bad, and the minipulation to dis allow even a vote, it is eerily like the ACA bill.

We have bowed to Russia, etc so their economy can thrive.....we make certain conditions when negotiations began AND THEN THE COUNTRY WAS INTERESTED. We gave in on ALL points during negotiations. The President is ignoring the american citizens on this and is playing his political games once again.....and by the way, he is good at it, but I always hoped that statesmanship would trump party.....that the good of our country would trump party.

And speakng of Trump....he is getting attention because of our President and his politicking. Americans are just sick of it....not just his side, but his side has really gotten good at it and are forcing our country down a very slippery slope.

What people have said here is they do not listen to Colin Powell, because he supported Obama in the last two president elections. O'Reilly tried to throw the race card in a very polite way at Powell. Powell snapped backed that his support for Obama was on economical policies, and not race. It was quite apparent that no one here listened to Powell's interview on Meet The Press. Why wouldn't you want to hear what a former Republican Secretary of State had to say about the agreement?

Obama made congress look bad by rushing to the UN for a vote. Is that right? 47 Republican senators wrote a letter to Iranian leaders to include Ayatollah Khomeini telling them the deal wasn't a done deal. The implication was the US was going to back out of a bad deal. The Iranian foreign minister called the letter a propaganda ploy. They brought Netanyahu to speak before Congress before the deal was finalized. How do you make that crowd look any worst than they already are? Are you going to even try to say the Republicans aren't playing games with this agreement?

21% of Americans support the deal, that is right. However, 30% said that do not know if it is a good deal or not. The poster wrote that 75% of Americans think it is a bad deal. He threw all the don't knows into the bad deal column. That isn't playing with numbers to support your argument! Then, what is?

We didn't give in everything to Iran on the agreement. They wanted their military sites to be off limits. Do you think for a second that Iran wanted their supplies of nuclear bomb material to be cut back as far as they have? This Iranian self inspection only applies to nuclear sites that have been dismantled. They will supply material from the sites for inspection.

The 24 day hysteria is just that. Iran delayed an inspection of one their former nuclear sites for 10 months before they let the IAEA onto them. The IAEA still found out that they were trying to produce nuclear bombs on the site. You literally can't hide what you were doing in 24 days.

There really does become a point where you have to provide some details of what you are going to do other than repeal and replace, get a better deal, and never say how.

I will look into this arm twisting deal. All the Democratic Senators that voted for the plan did so based upon conscience and not one of them mentioned arm twisting. The arm twisting was done behind closed doors. How nice another conspiracy theory.

I will ask you what is so bad about the ACA that it will bankrupt the country as one posted said. No one has ever answered that question that I can recall.

Guest
09-14-2015, 04:47 AM
What people have said here is they do not listen to Colin Powell, because he supported Obama in the last two president elections. O'Reilly tried to throw the race card in a very polite way at Powell. Powell snapped backed that his support for Obama was on economical policies, and not race. It was quite apparent that no one here listened to Powell's interview on Meet The Press. Why wouldn't you want to hear what a former Republican Secretary of State had to say about the agreement?

Obama made congress look bad by rushing to the UN for a vote. Is that right? 47 Republican senators wrote a letter to Iranian leaders to include Ayatollah Khomeini telling them the deal wasn't a done deal. The implication was the US was going to back out of a bad deal. The Iranian foreign minister called the letter a propaganda ploy. They brought Netanyahu to speak before Congress before the deal was finalized. How do you make that crowd look any worst than they already are? Are you going to even try to say the Republicans aren't playing games with this agreement?

21% of Americans support the deal, that is right. However, 30% said that do not know if it is a good deal or not. The poster wrote that 75% of Americans think it is a bad deal. He threw all the don't knows into the bad deal column. That isn't playing with numbers to support your argument! Then, what is?

We didn't give in everything to Iran on the agreement. They wanted their military sites to be off limits. Do you think for a second that Iran wanted their supplies of nuclear bomb material to be cut back as far as they have? This Iranian self inspection only applies to nuclear sites that have been dismantled. They will supply material from the sites for inspection.

The 24 day hysteria is just that. Iran delayed an inspection of one their former nuclear sites for 10 months before they let the IAEA onto them. The IAEA still found out that they were trying to produce nuclear bombs on the site. You literally can't hide what you were doing in 24 days.

There really does become a point where you have to provide some details of what you are going to do other than repeal and replace, get a better deal, and never say how.

I will look into this arm twisting deal. All the Democratic Senators that voted for the plan did so based upon conscience and not one of them mentioned arm twisting. The arm twisting was done behind closed doors. How nice another conspiracy theory.

I will ask you what is so bad about the ACA that it will bankrupt the country as one posted said. No one has ever answered that question that I can recall.

Since you cannot, will not answer any of our questions, I will state my opinion of your liberal comment.....

B...S... !!

Guest
09-14-2015, 05:59 AM
What people have said here is they do not listen to Colin Powell, because he supported Obama in the last two president elections. O'Reilly tried to throw the race card in a very polite way at Powell. Powell snapped backed that his support for Obama was on economical policies, and not race. It was quite apparent that no one here listened to Powell's interview on Meet The Press. Why wouldn't you want to hear what a former Republican Secretary of State had to say about the agreement?

Obama made congress look bad by rushing to the UN for a vote. Is that right? 47 Republican senators wrote a letter to Iranian leaders to include Ayatollah Khomeini telling them the deal wasn't a done deal. The implication was the US was going to back out of a bad deal. The Iranian foreign minister called the letter a propaganda ploy. They brought Netanyahu to speak before Congress before the deal was finalized. How do you make that crowd look any worst than they already are? Are you going to even try to say the Republicans aren't playing games with this agreement?

21% of Americans support the deal, that is right. However, 30% said that do not know if it is a good deal or not. The poster wrote that 75% of Americans think it is a bad deal. He threw all the don't knows into the bad deal column. That isn't playing with numbers to support your argument! Then, what is?

We didn't give in everything to Iran on the agreement. They wanted their military sites to be off limits. Do you think for a second that Iran wanted their supplies of nuclear bomb material to be cut back as far as they have? This Iranian self inspection only applies to nuclear sites that have been dismantled. They will supply material from the sites for inspection.

The 24 day hysteria is just that. Iran delayed an inspection of one their former nuclear sites for 10 months before they let the IAEA onto them. The IAEA still found out that they were trying to produce nuclear bombs on the site. You literally can't hide what you were doing in 24 days.

There really does become a point where you have to provide some details of what you are going to do other than repeal and replace, get a better deal, and never say how.

I will look into this arm twisting deal. All the Democratic Senators that voted for the plan did so based upon conscience and not one of them mentioned arm twisting. The arm twisting was done behind closed doors. How nice another conspiracy theory.

I will ask you what is so bad about the ACA that it will bankrupt the country as one posted said. No one has ever answered that question that I can recall.

I am typing this and already sorry that I am responding.

You are to be applauded for your total and complete support for the President, You would support this man under any or all circumstances.

Just a few and there are so many....but just a few suggestions.

First, visit the CBO analysis, which is a fluid and dynamic figure, but study the impact of the ACA on our economy, the cost WHEN IT FINALLY IS FINALLY TOTALLY IN OPERATION which is not now. Tell me how this country can afford that ?

On the Iran deal, while there is so much to say let me just ask you this question. Already, Iran is in Russia illegally negotiating ICBMS. England, France and Russia are all opening embassies as quick as they can because the money going into their coffers, along with China is going to be a massive amount. Iran is already making threats. Iran has already magically discovered more material than they knew they had....read sarcasm. They will do their own inspection of military site selected by them and get back to us.

Ok...let us assume that in the first year, Iran is caught with their hands in the cookie jar so to speak, in one way or the other...doing something they should not be doing. We say, that deal will be done.

Ok....how do you think those countries that now have a better economy and are dealing in trade with Iran will handle that ? Do you think they will say...oh, they cheated....lets pull the plug on the deal.

NOPE....all our bluster is just that...bluster. This is a NON REVERSABLE DEAL.

And as bad a deal as could be done. We rolled over on all our pre conceived ideas on what we want

I do compliment you though...you will support this administration at and on anything.

And please, despite your support for the President, can you skip the racial crap. it is insulting and does not apply, although, as the President feels it applies in everything.

Guest
09-14-2015, 07:18 AM
What people have said here is they do not listen to Colin Powell, because he supported Obama in the last two president elections. O'Reilly tried to throw the race card in a very polite way at Powell. Powell snapped backed that his support for Obama was on economical policies, and not race. It was quite apparent that no one here listened to Powell's interview on Meet The Press. Why wouldn't you want to hear what a former Republican Secretary of State had to say about the agreement?

Obama made congress look bad by rushing to the UN for a vote. Is that right? 47 Republican senators wrote a letter to Iranian leaders to include Ayatollah Khomeini telling them the deal wasn't a done deal. The implication was the US was going to back out of a bad deal. The Iranian foreign minister called the letter a propaganda ploy. They brought Netanyahu to speak before Congress before the deal was finalized. How do you make that crowd look any worst than they already are? Are you going to even try to say the Republicans aren't playing games with this agreement?

21% of Americans support the deal, that is right. However, 30% said that do not know if it is a good deal or not. The poster wrote that 75% of Americans think it is a bad deal. He threw all the don't knows into the bad deal column. That isn't playing with numbers to support your argument! Then, what is?

We didn't give in everything to Iran on the agreement. They wanted their military sites to be off limits. Do you think for a second that Iran wanted their supplies of nuclear bomb material to be cut back as far as they have? This Iranian self inspection only applies to nuclear sites that have been dismantled. They will supply material from the sites for inspection.

The 24 day hysteria is just that. Iran delayed an inspection of one their former nuclear sites for 10 months before they let the IAEA onto them. The IAEA still found out that they were trying to produce nuclear bombs on the site. You literally can't hide what you were doing in 24 days.

There really does become a point where you have to provide some details of what you are going to do other than repeal and replace, get a better deal, and never say how.

I will look into this arm twisting deal. All the Democratic Senators that voted for the plan did so based upon conscience and not one of them mentioned arm twisting. The arm twisting was done behind closed doors. How nice another conspiracy theory.

I will ask you what is so bad about the ACA that it will bankrupt the country as one posted said. No one has ever answered that question that I can recall.

You are overanalyzing. You're doing this because you are afraid of Iran ...afraid to confront, and thus you get wrapped around the rhetorical axle trying to justify the feckless.

Here's the gist so you can understand. The deal not just allows but ENSURES Iran gets a nuke.

That is a catastrophe for the West, you know ... the culture you are a part of as far as I know.

The solution is to increase sanctions, show resolve and get them to back down by the credible threat of use of force if need be.

This is preferable to actually having to use force in 5-10 years when Iran has the bomb. The other option is for you and your kids/grandkids to simply surrender and learn to pray facing Mecca.

Pick one ...

Guest
09-14-2015, 08:16 AM
You are overanalyzing. You're doing this because you are afraid of Iran ...afraid to confront, and thus you get wrapped around the rhetorical axle trying to justify the feckless.

Here's the gist so you can understand. The deal not just allows but ENSURES Iran gets a nuke.

That is a catastrophe for the West, you know ... the culture you are a part of as far as I know.

The solution is to increase sanctions, show resolve and get them to back down by the credible threat of use of force if need be.

This is preferable to actually having to use force in 5-10 years when Iran has the bomb. The other option is for you and your kids/grandkids to simply surrender and learn to pray facing Mecca.

Pick one ...

Now see, by offering up a solution....gee, how unique...increase the sanctions.

BUT you destroy one of the talking points. Our President, and others choose to offer only one single alternative, on any issue, and in this case they offered war. They offer only one to make it dramatic and agreeable to those who will go along with anything they want.

We now will be stuck...as said earlier...if Iran reneges in anyway, our allies will have such financial ties they will never agree to any action of any consequence.

YES....as many have said, including many democrats...this INSURES that Iran will get nuclear

Guest
09-14-2015, 08:19 AM
Now see, by offering up a solution....gee, how unique...increase the sanctions.

BUT you destroy one of the talking points. Our President, and others choose to offer only one single alternative, on any issue, and in this case they offered war. They offer only one to make it dramatic and agreeable to those who will go along with anything they want.

We now will be stuck...as said earlier...if Iran reneges in anyway, our allies will have such financial ties they will never agree to any action of any consequence.

YES....as many have said, including many democrats...this INSURES that Iran will get nuclear

First of all, I object to the phrase "our" President ...

Guest
09-14-2015, 09:32 AM
First of all, I object to the phrase "our" President ...

"the ONE" is appropriate. What a disappointment, is another way to describe him.

Guest
09-14-2015, 11:56 AM
I am typing this and already sorry that I am responding.

You are to be applauded for your total and complete support for the President, You would support this man under any or all circumstances.

Just a few and there are so many....but just a few suggestions.

First, visit the CBO analysis, which is a fluid and dynamic figure, but study the impact of the ACA on our economy, the cost WHEN IT FINALLY IS FINALLY TOTALLY IN OPERATION which is not now. Tell me how this country can afford that ?

On the Iran deal, while there is so much to say let me just ask you this question. Already, Iran is in Russia illegally negotiating ICBMS. England, France and Russia are all opening embassies as quick as they can because the money going into their coffers, along with China is going to be a massive amount. Iran is already making threats. Iran has already magically discovered more material than they knew they had....read sarcasm. They will do their own inspection of military site selected by them and get back to us.

Ok...let us assume that in the first year, Iran is caught with their hands in the cookie jar so to speak, in one way or the other...doing something they should not be doing. We say, that deal will be done.

Ok....how do you think those countries that now have a better economy and are dealing in trade with Iran will handle that ? Do you think they will say...oh, they cheated....lets pull the plug on the deal.

NOPE....all our bluster is just that...bluster. This is a NON REVERSABLE DEAL.

And as bad a deal as could be done. We rolled over on all our pre conceived ideas on what we want

I do compliment you though...you will support this administration at and on anything.

And please, despite your support for the President, can you skip the racial crap. it is insulting and does not apply, although, as the President feels it applies in everything.

Thank you so much for going out of your way to respond. There is so much to talk about the Iran deal, but instead of that you ask a question. Who answers a question with a question, a person that doesn't want to answer the initial question. That's who!

"They will do their own inspection of military site selected by them and get back to us." Where in the name of creation did you get that from? The IAEA will let them take their own samples as long as a IAEA inspector is there. That statement came for the head of the IAEA. I thought that you trusted the IAEA. The IAEA will be reporting their finding on the inspection by year end. They will have an inspection of all Iranian nuclear sites, and every suspected nuclear sites. The initial portion Iranian money will not be released until the IAEA is satisfied that Iran has meet the requirements under the agreement.

If we back out of the deal, then Iran doesn't have to cheat, because there is no deal. We are standing there alone with our thumps up our ass wondering what happened. You said all the other P5plus1 countries in the country have an economical reason to trade with Iran, and they are going to do it anyway. So, what the hell are we gaining by not accepting the deal? If Iran cheats, at least we have something to bring up with the UN.

Concerning race, you explain to me why Colin Powell is being ignored by members of his own party, and they refuse to listen to what he has to say on the Iranian agreement?

I am a liberal Democrat. That's funny, because I am voting for John Kasich in the 2016 Republican primary.

I do admire your support for the Republican party that opposes just about everything this president is for even though they were for it in the past. Obama is for it, then we are against it.

Guest
09-14-2015, 12:31 PM
Thank you so much for going out of your way to respond. There is so much to talk about the Iran deal, but instead of that you ask a question. Who answers a question with a question, a person that doesn't want to answer the initial question. That's who!

"They will do their own inspection of military site selected by them and get back to us." Where in the name of creation did you get that from? The IAEA will let them take their own samples as long as a IAEA inspector is there. That statement came for the head of the IAEA. I thought that you trusted the IAEA. The IAEA will be reporting their finding on the inspection by year end. They will have an inspection of all Iranian nuclear sites, and every suspected nuclear sites. The initial portion Iranian money will not be released until the IAEA is satisfied that Iran has meet the requirements under the agreement.

If we back out of the deal, then Iran doesn't have to cheat, because there is no deal. We are standing there alone with our thumps up our ass wondering what happened. You said all the other P5plus1 countries in the country have an economical reason to trade with Iran, and they are going to do it anyway. So, what the hell are we gaining by not accepting the deal? If Iran cheats, at least we have something to bring up with the UN.

Concerning race, you explain to me why Colin Powell is being ignored by members of his own party, and they refuse to listen to what he has to say on the Iranian agreement?

I am a liberal Democrat. That's funny, because I am voting for John Kasich in the 2016 Republican primary.

I do admire your support for the Republican party that opposes just about everything this president is for even though they were for it in the past. Obama is for it, then we are against it.

I really wish we could us the ignore feature in political.

Enjoy your dream world where Obama rules, and racist claims are the staple.

I, personally, am so sick of the race card..it is juvenile, unfounded and used when no other response is offered.

I, personally, am also sick of this administration who showed promise, but has lied and politicized any issue, including the race issue. They are not truthful, they tell half truths, but they got you to love them.

Have you read the manner in which this man garnered the votes for Iran deal ? Have you read how he got the votes for ACA ? And then, in addition, manipulated congress on both votes. Statesman, no...politician exclusively, yes.

I read with great interest the positive reviews on the various alternatives to ACA, especially the Rubio plan and can just hope because if the ACA continues, we are bankrupt.

You asked a question I must answer. You asked what the hell are we doing making this deal.....I agree.....the sanctions were working, got them to the table where we blew it. We have insured them a nuclear weapon, and insured we are stuck with this. This is disaster in a bottle.

Always this way with this resident....ACA....he said no alternative but forgot to ask. On Iran, he said only alternative is war...he made that up, and never asked and now with his politics has insured we will never get to even discuss alternatives.

Guest
09-14-2015, 12:56 PM
Colin Powell, distinguished military leader, ought to be ashamed of himself for placing politics ahead of the security of this nation. Its been obvious for some time now that he is a man scorned.

It is surprising that we have so many "Mr, Magoo's" that even in the face of the most obvious evidence these Magoo's continue to support Obama. Iran just yesterday again, lamented "Death To America" and the Magoo's cheer on Obama's Iran Deal. Russia is going to arm Syria and Obama still has made up his mind about the red line he drew concerning Assad's use of chemical weapons

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
09-15-2015, 11:23 AM
Thank you so much for going out of your way to respond. There is so much to talk about the Iran deal, but instead of that you ask a question. Who answers a question with a question, a person that doesn't want to answer the initial question. That's who!

"They will do their own inspection of military site selected by them and get back to us." Where in the name of creation did you get that from? The IAEA will let them take their own samples as long as a IAEA inspector is there. That statement came for the head of the IAEA. I thought that you trusted the IAEA. The IAEA will be reporting their finding on the inspection by year end. They will have an inspection of all Iranian nuclear sites, and every suspected nuclear sites. The initial portion Iranian money will not be released until the IAEA is satisfied that Iran has meet the requirements under the agreement.

If we back out of the deal, then Iran doesn't have to cheat, because there is no deal. We are standing there alone with our thumps up our ass wondering what happened. You said all the other P5plus1 countries in the country have an economical reason to trade with Iran, and they are going to do it anyway. So, what the hell are we gaining by not accepting the deal? If Iran cheats, at least we have something to bring up with the UN.

Concerning race, you explain to me why Colin Powell is being ignored by members of his own party, and they refuse to listen to what he has to say on the Iranian agreement?

I am a liberal Democrat. That's funny, because I am voting for John Kasich in the 2016 Republican primary.

I do admire your support for the Republican party that opposes just about everything this president is for even though they were for it in the past. Obama is for it, then we are against it.

Among other things, you said “… I am a Liberal Democrat”

Now that was not hard to figure out, but thanks for making the obvious more obvious anyway.

As such, you have a number of beliefs that most people with common sense believe range between the peculiar to the genuinely idiotic, including allowing Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon. Nuclear warming indeed.

Being a liberal democrat also explains your self-hatred and American loathing world view. Every time you speak, we all see yet more evidence that liberalism is a non-curable form of mental illness

Guest
09-15-2015, 12:37 PM
It appears someone else wants to negotiate and get sanctions removed.


"(CNN)In its latest bout of saber rattling, North Korea says it is ready to use nuclear weapons against the United States and other foes if they pursue "their reckless hostile policy" toward Kim Jong Un's regime.

Kim Jong Un's regime may already have 10 to 15 nuclear weapons, according to David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector who now heads the non-profit Institute for Science and International Security.

In a report in February, Albright predicted that Pyongyang could increase its stockpile to anywhere between 20 and roughly Kim Jong Un's regime may already have 10 to 15 nuclear weapons, according to David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector who now heads the non-profit Institute for Science and International Security.

In a report in February, Albright predicted that Pyongyang could increase its stockpile to anywhere between 20 and roughly 100 nuclear weapons by 2020.

The growing nuclear arsenal poses a serious strategic challenge for the United States.

The U.S. government has repeatedly called on North Korea to commit to denuclearization as a condition of any future negotiations, but Kim's regime has repeatedly dismissed such an idea, demanding to be recognized as a nuclear power."


North Korea issues nuclear warning to U.S., other foes - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/15/asia/north-korea-nuclear-program/)

Guest
09-15-2015, 02:19 PM
It appears someone else wants to negotiate and get sanctions removed.


"(CNN)In its latest bout of saber rattling, North Korea says it is ready to use nuclear weapons against the United States and other foes if they pursue "their reckless hostile policy" toward Kim Jong Un's regime.

Kim Jong Un's regime may already have 10 to 15 nuclear weapons, according to David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector who now heads the non-profit Institute for Science and International Security.

In a report in February, Albright predicted that Pyongyang could increase its stockpile to anywhere between 20 and roughly Kim Jong Un's regime may already have 10 to 15 nuclear weapons, according to David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector who now heads the non-profit Institute for Science and International Security.

In a report in February, Albright predicted that Pyongyang could increase its stockpile to anywhere between 20 and roughly 100 nuclear weapons by 2020.

The growing nuclear arsenal poses a serious strategic challenge for the United States.

The U.S. government has repeatedly called on North Korea to commit to denuclearization as a condition of any future negotiations, but Kim's regime has repeatedly dismissed such an idea, demanding to be recognized as a nuclear power."


North Korea issues nuclear warning to U.S., other foes - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/15/asia/north-korea-nuclear-program/)

It appears that Obie is working overtime to destroy us. IF Biden is stressed now, can you imagine what Obie will be handing him IF he was to get elected? Poor guy. As vulgar as Biden can get with his language, can you just vision his verbal vomit when he pictures what Obie is doing to him?

Guest
09-15-2015, 07:44 PM
It appears that Obie is working overtime to destroy us. IF Biden is stressed now, can you imagine what Obie will be handing him IF he was to get elected? Poor guy. As vulgar as Biden can get with his language, can you just vision his verbal vomit when he pictures what Obie is doing to him?

All I know is that the Iran deal has a bunch of side issues and this magnifies one of them. This is a country WITH nukes and sanctions.

Wait until the ME, and with Russia helping them all to nuke tecnology, etc how long before Syria joins this group.

We already know they have and will use gas and such weapons on their OWN people.

The ME is going to be well armed with nukes, hate for the US and an ally (Russia) seeking to get back its place on the stage.

Stand by

Guest
09-15-2015, 08:32 PM
Among other things, you said “… I am a Liberal Democrat”

Now that was not hard to figure out, but thanks for making the obvious more obvious anyway.

As such, you have a number of beliefs that most people with common sense believe range between the peculiar to the genuinely idiotic, including allowing Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon. Nuclear warming indeed.

Being a liberal democrat also explains your self-hatred and American loathing world view. Every time you speak, we all see yet more evidence that liberalism is a non-curable form of mental illness

You know what is obvious your total inability to spot sarcasm. You do excel in a common practice of all Republicans taking something out of context, and then running with it.

Try looking at the sentence that followed the liberal democrat comment. How do you explain the fact that I will be voting for John Kasich in the Florida primary? I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.

If the US backed out of the deal, it was reported that Iran could develop a nuclear bomb in two months, and they have the material to produce it. So, I guess two months is a much longer period than 15 to 25 years. From your own first hand experience, you must be real familiar with mental illness. As far as common sense is concern, try getting some.

Guest
09-15-2015, 08:47 PM
Colin Powell, distinguished military leader, ought to be ashamed of himself for placing politics ahead of the security of this nation. Its been obvious for some time now that he is a man scorned.

It is surprising that we have so many "Mr, Magoo's" that even in the face of the most obvious evidence these Magoo's continue to support Obama. Iran just yesterday again, lamented "Death To America" and the Magoo's cheer on Obama's Iran Deal. Russia is going to arm Syria and Obama still has made up his mind about the red line he drew concerning Assad's use of chemical weapons

Personal Best Regards:

This post is total nonsense. Did you listen to his Meet The Press interview? There wasn't literally anything in there that had a hint of politics. Who scorned him?

Of course, the far right in Iran said "Death to America", that is what the far right in any country yells at all of their enemies. The far right in Iran is walking lock step with the Republicans in this country in hating this deal. Are you enjoying your company?

Guest
09-16-2015, 05:06 AM
This post is total nonsense. Did you listen to his Meet The Press interview? There wasn't literally anything in there that had a hint of politics. Who scorned him?

Of course, the far right in Iran said "Death to America", that is what the far right in any country yells at all of their enemies. The far right in Iran is walking lock step with the Republicans in this country in hating this deal. Are you enjoying your company?

Total BS. I suppose you think that the Wall St protesters were also Republicans?

Guest
09-16-2015, 05:49 AM
This post is total nonsense. Did you listen to his Meet The Press interview? There wasn't literally anything in there that had a hint of politics. Who scorned him?

Of course, the far right in Iran said "Death to America", that is what the far right in any country yells at all of their enemies. The far right in Iran is walking lock step with the Republicans in this country in hating this deal. Are you enjoying your company?

"The far right in Iran is walking lock step with the Republicans in this country in hating this deal"

THIS IS NOT ORIGINAL.

The President already said it at the same time as saying those who did not agree were the "crazies".

BUT you stole it from the highest office in the land.

Oh except that hard right in Iran is NOT opposed to the deal

They simply proclaim killing us. I suppose just a subtle difference

Guest
09-16-2015, 07:37 AM
This post is total nonsense. Did you listen to his Meet The Press interview? There wasn't literally anything in there that had a hint of politics. Who scorned him?

Of course, the far right in Iran said "Death to America", that is what the far right in any country yells at all of their enemies. The far right in Iran is walking lock step with the Republicans in this country in hating this deal. Are you enjoying your company?

"the far right," "the far right", "the far right" yadda

You sound like another unhinged liberal. In addition to making an idiotic, truly ignorant comparison between the "far right" in Iran (oxymoron) and conservatives (ie constitutional government ...you know, like the Founding Fathers bequeathed us) you appear to be sputtering and spitting when you talk.

Guest
09-16-2015, 07:53 AM
"the far right," "the far right", "the far right" yadda

You sound like another unhinged liberal. In addition to making an idiotic, truly ignorant comparison between the "far right" in Iran (oxymoron) and conservatives (ie constitutional government ...you know, like the Founding Fathers bequeathed us) you appear to be sputtering and spitting when you talk.

:thumbup:

Guest
09-16-2015, 10:55 AM
You know what is obvious your total inability to spot sarcasm. You do excel in a common practice of all Republicans taking something out of context, and then running with it.

Try looking at the sentence that followed the liberal democrat comment. How do you explain the fact that I will be voting for John Kasich in the Florida primary? I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.

If the US backed out of the deal, it was reported that Iran could develop a nuclear bomb in two months, and they have the material to produce it. So, I guess two months is a much longer period than 15 to 25 years. From your own first hand experience, you must be real familiar with mental illness. As far as common sense is concern, try getting some.

Look, it's clear your condition as a liberal is incurable. I'm sorry about that. In the meantime, speaking of common sense, see if you can detect any in this short video regarding the Iran deal.

Iran Side Effects (http://www.iransideeffects.com/)

Guest
09-16-2015, 11:28 AM
Obama has done more to advance the worldwide Jihad than any other Muslim leader in modern history.

He has now allowed for Iran to obtains nukes in a few years, and in effect, is sponsoring the latest Islamic invasion of Europe by allowing the creation of ISIS. The last invasion was in 1683 when the Christians repulsed the Islamic (ie Turkish) tide.

This guy grew up in Islam, understands the imperialistic jihad religion for what it is, and you have to conclude Obama knows exactly what's he's doing.

And just which administration allowed Iran to multiply their centrifuges from
0-5,000?

Your comment about Obama growing up in Islam just shows how ignorant you might be or maybe its something else.

Guest
09-16-2015, 11:41 AM
And just which administration allowed Iran to multiply their centrifuges from
0-5,000?

Your comment about Obama growing up in Islam just shows how ignorant you might be or maybe its something else.

You are correct on your statement on the increase in centrifuges which happened at the tail end of the Bush administration.

You also are correct about Obama growing up in Islam...he did but at a very young age.

My post is not to applaud you so much, even though I just did, but to point out the fact about the centrifuges came out in a big way....not that is was a secret, but made the media because of that oft maligned network FOX !!

I could not help myself. Fox is so maligned with no reason ever given that I just thought it would be nice to point out the source of that information to the mainstream media.

Guest
09-16-2015, 11:43 AM
And just which administration allowed Iran to multiply their centrifuges from
0-5,000?

Your comment about Obama growing up in Islam just shows how ignorant you might be or maybe its something else.

Bush should have used his power I agree.

As far as Obie goes, his natural father and 1/2 his relatives are Muslim. His step father was a Muslim. He attended Islamic school for a while as a youth. His actions reflect an affinity for Islam. I realize you're blind to it, and always will be, but it's clear Obama's heart is with Islam. He can't come out and say it yet ... what you call ignorance I simply call willful blindness on your part.

Guest
09-16-2015, 12:36 PM
You are correct on your statement on the increase in centrifuges which happened at the tail end of the Bush administration.

You also are correct about Obama growing up in Islam...he did but at a very young age.

My post is not to applaud you so much, even though I just did, but to point out the fact about the centrifuges came out in a big way....not that is was a secret, but made the media because of that oft maligned network FOX !!

I could not help myself. Fox is so maligned with no reason ever given that I just thought it would be nice to point out the source of that information to the mainstream media.

I will give the point on FOX cause I loved how they took it to Cheney.....

I was raised Catholic but I am no longer a practicing Catholic. So Obama was exposed to Islam...So he was introduced to Davis a Communist does that make him a communist? Before you answer I would might want to think about it.

Guest
09-16-2015, 12:43 PM
I will give the point on FOX cause I loved how they took it to Cheney.....

I was raised Catholic but I am no longer a practicing Catholic. So Obama was exposed to Islam...So he was introduced to Davis a Communist does that make him a communist? Before you answer I would might want to think about it.

I thought for a minute you were going to trip yourself up, because as you continue to add to your list you will have to pause. I do suggest you do a bit of reading on who and what he associated with as he grew older. It IS an interesting list, and certainly at this point "circumstantial" , but it was a pretty good indicator of his adult views.

But you stopped so.......

Guest
09-16-2015, 12:44 PM
Bush should have used his power I agree.

As far as Obie goes, his natural father and 1/2 his relatives are Muslim. His step father was a Muslim. He attended Islamic school for a while as a youth. His actions reflect an affinity for Islam. I realize you're blind to it, and always will be, but it's clear Obama's heart is with Islam. He can't come out and say it yet ... what you call ignorance I simply call willful blindness on your part.

Are you the same one that accused me of not being able to tie my shoes?

You and I will always be on the opposite side of this because did not support Bush's invasion of Iraq and I was right. The American public was lied to in the run up to the war..... I have 3 nephews currently in the military, 1 of which has seen 4 tours in the gulf and holds the purple heart for wounds he suffered. I don't want any of them to be cannon fodder in a foolish war. Invading Iraq didn't work and invading Syria will work just about the same.....

So I am sure you are worried about the Republican candidate that was raised by a Commie right?

Guest
09-16-2015, 02:36 PM
Total BS. I suppose you think that the Wall St protesters were also Republicans?

I really had to think about this post, but then I finally understood what your point is. Total BS! You just forewarned us what the rest of your post was going to be about.

Guest
09-16-2015, 03:40 PM
I really had to think about this post, but then I finally understood what your point is. Total BS! You just forewarned us what the rest of your post was going to be about.

Since the totality of your comment, that I responded to was BS, I decided not to continue. You have no inkling of fact, or truth and just parrot the same old liberal talking points, that have no basis in reality. I figured, why bother since all you are doing is attempting to bait the conservatives that are on here having a conversation. It's a waste of time trying to converse with you, because you are either completely ignorant of fact, or just too biased already to do any research and contribute to the conversation with some factual evidence.

Guest
09-16-2015, 03:42 PM
"The far right in Iran is walking lock step with the Republicans in this country in hating this deal"

THIS IS NOT ORIGINAL.

The President already said it at the same time as saying those who did not agree were the "crazies".

BUT you stole it from the highest office in the land.

Oh except that hard right in Iran is NOT opposed to the deal

They simply proclaim killing us. I suppose just a subtle difference

I don't remember Obama stating that the far right in Iran is walking lock with the Republicans in this country. I will take your word for it. It just proves the old adage, "great minds think alike". (lol)

Guest
09-16-2015, 04:06 PM
I don't remember Obama stating that the far right in Iran is walking lock with the Republicans in this country. I will take your word for it. It just proves the old adage, "great minds think alike". (lol)

"“It’s those hard-liners who are most comfortable with the status quo. It’s those hard-liners chanting ‘Death to America’ who have been most opposed to the deal,” Obama said in that speech. “They’re making common cause with the Republican caucus.”

Read more: Obama Calls Iran Nuclear Deal Opponents 'The Crazies' | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/25/obama-calls-iran-nuclear-deal-opponents-the-crazies/#ixzz3lwCpnGWx)

Guest
09-16-2015, 06:43 PM
I will give the point on FOX cause I loved how they took it to Cheney.....

I was raised Catholic but I am no longer a practicing Catholic. So Obama was exposed to Islam...So he was introduced to Davis a Communist does that make him a communist? Before you answer I would might want to think about it.

I think it's reasonable to infer that, in most cases, if you are exposed to a religion or way of life at a young age, and as long as the memories are largely positive, you will likely have a soft spot for that in your heart as you get older ... even if you fall away from it for whatever reason.

I too was raised Catholic, but simple stopped going to church for 40+ years. Guess what, I rejoined the church just recently. You may still harbor ill feelings towards it still ... never said it's 100%.

But I think my point is valid ... when all is said and done, in my opinion Obama has an obvious soft spot in his heart towards Islam ... it is, after all, the faith of his father. I also think that explains why he was so quick to invite the Muslim kid from Dallas to the White House.

Guest
09-17-2015, 05:32 AM
Obama is a communist Muslim. That's why he is a mental case. There's no denying that.

Guest
09-17-2015, 05:47 AM
Obama was raised with Muslim schooling
His mentor throughout his childhood until college was a registered communist
He hung out with radical activists in college
He was associated with a radical anarchist bomber as a community organizer
His only known association with a secular Christian faith was perverted by a hate mongering, biased and radical preacher.

Yep, I can tell he is a born again Christian.

Guest
09-18-2015, 12:04 AM
I think it's reasonable to infer that, in most cases, if you are exposed to a religion or way of life at a young age, and as long as the memories are largely positive, you will likely have a soft spot for that in your heart as you get older ... even if you fall away from it for whatever reason.

I too was raised Catholic, but simple stopped going to church for 40+ years. Guess what, I rejoined the church just recently. You may still harbor ill feelings towards it still ... never said it's 100%.

But I think my point is valid ... when all is said and done, in my opinion Obama has an obvious soft spot in his heart towards Islam ... it is, after all, the faith of his father. I also think that explains why he was so quick to invite the Muslim kid from Dallas to the White House.

Obama might as you have said have a soft spot for Muslims. Unlike you a large number of Republicans believe without a doubt that he is a Muslim. If you need any evidence of that, take a look at many of the posts on this board. There are still many birthers out there. Trump was trying to prove that in the very recent past.

Obama wasn't the only one reaching out to this kid, MIT, and the founder of Facebook also have a soft spot for the 14 year old.

You aren't alone in going back to church. As we get older in life, we have to cover all bases just in case there really is a heaven or hell.

Guest
09-18-2015, 12:32 AM
Obama is a communist Muslim. That's why he is a mental case. There's no denying that.

Make that a registered Muslim and you got it right. You never seen him on television eating barbecue ribs, have you? Muslims dont eat barbecue. Proof!

Guest
09-18-2015, 04:04 AM
Make that a registered Muslim and you got it right. You never seen him on television eating barbecue ribs, have you? Muslims dont eat barbecue. Proof!

I'm not sure about Obama and BBQ ribs, but I do know that his wife loves them. She certainly stuffed her face with them when they made their stop in Ashville, NC. Of course, I know Jews that eat pork spare ribs too.

Guest
09-18-2015, 08:21 AM
Make that a registered Muslim and you got it right. You never seen him on television eating barbecue ribs, have you? Muslims dont eat barbecue. Proof!
Shish kebabs are of Middle Eastern origin, so much for your Muslim theory.

Guest
09-18-2015, 09:31 AM
Shish kebabs are of Middle Eastern origin, so much for your Muslim theory.

Actually, they are supposed to have originated in Turkey. Turkey considers itself to be Eastern Europe, not Middle Eastern. But, one person's Arab is another person's Turk, I guess. Most of the stuff I had in Turkey was called "Kabab" and was a bit different because of the lack of the "shish" part, I guess. I have to say that they had the best bread I have ever had, and I have traveled a bit of the world. But, I digress....sorry.

Guest
09-18-2015, 09:43 AM
Make that a registered Muslim and you got it right. You never seen him on television eating barbecue ribs, have you? Muslims dont eat barbecue. Proof!

I hope you are not serious. If you are, seek help.

Guest
09-18-2015, 09:44 AM
Shish kebabs are of Middle Eastern origin, so much for your Muslim theory.

They are made with lamb meat. Pig meat is barbecue and they dont eat pig meat. The jews that eat pig meat isnt really of the jewish religion but just of the jewish race.

Guest
09-18-2015, 10:03 AM
They are made with lamb meat. Pig meat is barbecue and they dont eat pig meat. The jews that eat pig meat isnt really of the jewish religion but just of the jewish race.

Agree in most cases. However, I know of Jews that go to synagogue and still love BBQ pork spare ribs. I realize that this is not the norm.

Guest
09-18-2015, 10:49 AM
Actually, they are supposed to have originated in Turkey. Turkey considers itself to be Eastern Europe, not Middle Eastern. But, one person's Arab is another person's Turk, I guess. Most of the stuff I had in Turkey was called "Kabab" and was a bit different because of the lack of the "shish" part, I guess. I have to say that they had the best bread I have ever had, and I have traveled a bit of the world. But, I digress....sorry.
You're right, Turkey is considered Eastern Europe and kabobs moved on from there. But the point is Turkey is 98% Muslim, hence the fallacy that they don't eat barbecue. BTW, the best kabobs for barbecuing (grilling I found out from my Memphis neighbor) are from Fresh Market.

Guest
09-18-2015, 12:13 PM
You're right, Turkey is considered Eastern Europe and kabobs moved on from there. But the point is Turkey is 98% Muslim, hence the fallacy that they don't eat barbecue. BTW, the best kabobs for barbecuing (grilling I found out from my Memphis neighbor) are from Fresh Market.

Yes, you are correct. Turkey is predominantly Muslim. Just pointing out a little trivia, since I spent a few years there. Not trying to criticize you. I picked up some long flat skewers from Armenia that resemble swords in size, for my BBQ. I've been smoking ribs and roasts and haven't had a chance yet to try them out yet. There I go, digressing. I better be careful or someone is going to think that I am a liberal, always trying to divert from the subject...:1rotfl:

Guest
09-18-2015, 12:28 PM
How to you get to barbecue from the original subject.

Guest
09-18-2015, 02:07 PM
How to you get to barbecue from the original subject.

Good question. I believe someone said Obama couldn't be Muslim because he enjoys BBQ. Of course, smoked brisket is dynamite BBQ if done right, and a Muslim would probably die for it.. I wonder if they would still be awarded a few virgins if they went that way?

Guest
09-18-2015, 04:55 PM
Good question. I believe someone said Obama couldn't be Muslim because he enjoys BBQ. Of course, smoked brisket is dynamite BBQ if done right, and a Muslim would probably die for it.. I wonder if they would still be awarded a few virgins if they went that way?

I don't think Obama interested in virgins of the female sex ... excuse me, that is people who self identify as female.

Guest
09-19-2015, 04:26 AM
I don't think Obama interested in virgins of the female sex ... excuse me, that is people who self identify as female.

I didn't want to bring that up, but I believe you are right. I do not think he is interested in females at all. But, I thought that I was the only one that seemed to notice that he seems to be attracted more to males. Maybe that is why the Mrs. treats him more like a brother than a lover in public. She knows. But, I have to be careful or a liberal will say that I "hate" him. That is their catch all response when they have no logical answer or defense for the worst past six years in American history.