Do Jobs Help Our Economy?

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Here's an interesting fact........

Which Political Party Has Created More Jobs? (http://politicsthatwork.com/democrats-create-more-jobs.php)

[Guest]

Here's an interesting fact........

Which Political Party Has Created More Jobs? (http://politicsthatwork.com/democrats-create-more-jobs.php)

Here's another interesting fact

Trump Tops Clinton in Economic Trust - Rasmussen Reports™ (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_tops_clinton_in_economic_trust?utm_source=ne wsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DailyNewsletter)

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A trick question just like;

are you still beating your wife?

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I understand that facing those facts can be a difficult chore sometimes. It can be an effective strategy to simply ignore the facts and try to change the subject, thus pretending that the documented, measurable facts are not the real issue. FOX News has been doing that for years. The truth can sure make things complicated, huh?

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Read these headlines on the site's news page to see how neutral and unbiased they are...

Aggregated Political and Economic News, Opinion and Analysis (http://politicsthatwork.com/news.php)

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I understand that facing those facts can be a difficult chore sometimes. It can be an effective strategy to simply ignore the facts and try to change the subject, thus pretending that the documented, measurable facts are not the real issue. FOX News has been doing that for years. The truth can sure make things complicated, huh?

Not difficult for me as they are certainly not new.

Reason you do not hear it more is that your statistics are without any context whatsoever, and it is a fact that the person in the WH, no matter the party will take credit and blame but have little effect on job growth.

If it were as simple as you present it, it would be front page news every election cycle and a constant barrage of news on that subject,

Those statistics which I think everyone knows again...no context and giving credit and laying blame at the wrong place.

BUT it is good sign material and posting fodder but not worth a discussion

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As for bias, numbers are numbers. Pretty interesting historical trend don't you think? Context? Here's your context. As for job creation, Democrats in the White House = jobs creation. I'm not saying, necessarily, who is responsible. But you can't deny the historical trends.

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As for bias, numbers are numbers. Pretty interesting historical trend don't you think? Context? Here's your context. As for job creation, Democrats in the White House = jobs creation. I'm not saying, necessarily, who is responsible. But you can't deny the historical trends.

Do not think anyone is or will argue your numbers.

You make no point, so it is assumed you just feel that if a democrat is in the White House, then automatic jobs gain.

You profess not to know who is responsible, so my question would be...so what ?

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As for bias, numbers are numbers. Pretty interesting historical trend don't you think? Context? Here's your context. As for job creation, Democrats in the White House = jobs creation. I'm not saying, necessarily, who is responsible. But you can't deny the historical trends.

So you are proclaiming that Obamacare has, and will, create millions of jobs??

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Since Obama,

More workers have left the job force than ever in history
More families are on food stamps than ever before
More families live at poverty level than ever before
More blacks are unemployed than ever before
More black babies aborted last year than born
Abortions subsidized unconstitutionally by gov for the first time.
The national debt has/will double
More terrorist attacks than ever before
More businesses have gone under and not come back
First time a president has declared leading from behind, which really means "following".
America is no longer world leader, first time.
First time a president has deemed cops to be the enemy, ever
First war on Christianity by white house
Worst racial division widened by a president.
First death list, to include Americans
First president to leave Americans overseas to die at hands of radicals, with no assistance attempted. Lied and blamed it on video.
First gov enforced purchase requirement of product. Health Insurance.

The list is actually at least five times this long, but I think you get the idea. Obama is the worst of failed experiments in American history.

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Since Obama,

More workers have left the job force than ever in history
More families are on food stamps than ever before
More families live at poverty level than ever before
More blacks are unemployed than ever before
More black babies aborted last year than born
Abortions subsidized unconstitutionally by gov for the first time.
The national debt has/will double
More terrorist attacks than ever before
More businesses have gone under and not come back
First time a president has declared leading from behind, which really means "following".
America is no longer world leader, first time.
First time a president has deemed cops to be the enemy, ever
First war on Christianity by white house
Worst racial division widened by a president.
First death list, to include Americans
First president to leave Americans overseas to die at hands of radicals, with no assistance attempted. Lied and blamed it on video.
First gov enforced purchase requirement of product. Health Insurance.

The list is actually at least five times this long, but I think you get the idea. Obama is the worst of failed experiments in American history.

Good point ... Obama is the petri dish experiment that didn't work

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Here's another interesting fact

Trump Tops Clinton in Economic Trust - Rasmussen Reports™ (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_tops_clinton_in_economic_trust?utm_source=ne wsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DailyNewsletter)







Rasmussen .......... Rasmussen .......... mmmmm, yeah I've heard of them.

They are the cracker jack polling firm that predicted that Mitt was going to win 325 electoral votes.

A great source of reliable data from Rasmussen.

Try Forbes on for size .........

Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/)

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Rasmussen .......... Rasmussen .......... mmmmm, yeah I've heard of them.

They are the cracker jack polling firm that predicted that Mitt was going to win 325 electoral votes.

A great source of reliable data from Rasmussen.

Try Forbes on for size .........

Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/)

I am still working on what an article that is one year old has to do with Trump versus Clinton ? The article is not about them nor does it mention these people !!!!!!!

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Wrong file?
Wrong date?
Just wrong?

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Well, Mr. List Maker, you are holding true to form. The one thing that you always completely ignore is what he was handed both economically and politically. What did Obama do prior to his presidency that he should be tagged with all the consequences of the Great Recession? What did Obama do that made American companies send manufacturing jobs overseas? What wars did Obama start in the Middle East that caused the total breakdown of sanity in the Middle East?

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Well, Mr. List Maker, you are holding true to form. The one thing that you always completely ignore is what he was handed both economically and politically. What did Obama do prior to his presidency that he should be tagged with all the consequences of the Great Recession? What did Obama do that made American companies send manufacturing jobs overseas? What wars did Obama start in the Middle East that caused the total breakdown of sanity in the Middle East?

I frankly am not sure I have ever read any such criticisms of this President ever on here anyway.

But you lapse back to the "blame Bush" mentality.

I applauded on here some of his actions relative to the financial situation. I criticized on here Bush for some of his stupid spending.

As far as jobs...check NAFTA for the culprit in my opinion not Bush as you want to blame. NAFTA was the sender of jobs, and the person who put it into place has said it was a mistake recently.

Nobody blamed Obama for anything that was on going in the ME and not sure why you say that, BUT....that has nothing to do with what has happened there in the last 6 years.

You seem to want people to just blame Bush for everything and get off the back of Obama. Not that simple and it never is. That might make you political folks happy but it does not address problems.

Our current Presidents foreign policy is a disaster in my opinion. It has nothing to do with George Bush, as much as you would love to make it so. Every President, Democrat or Republican inherit problems that were not of their making. HOW they deal is how they are measured. What has happened in the last 6 years has worsened any problems that existed prior to.

I am trying to be respectful to your post, but frankly it is very disturbing to hear this same mantra over and over and over. President Obama has to stand on his own merits and they are extremely slim pickings.

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and by the way to add to my post.

i did not make that list and only responded because anytime somebody resorts to the blame Bush thing...well, it gets my attention

In any case, I just re read the list you refer to and see not much that had any relativity to Bush. Some with a big stretch but nothing with a direct relationship.

Perhaps it was a case of ...."oh yeah but look what he did" Remember when we did that as a child ?

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Well, Mr. List Maker, you are holding true to form. The one thing that you always completely ignore is what he was handed both economically and politically. What did Obama do prior to his presidency that he should be tagged with all the consequences of the Great Recession? What did Obama do that made American companies send manufacturing jobs overseas? What wars did Obama start in the Middle East that caused the total breakdown of sanity in the Middle East?

You don't get it ... or more accurately, you don't want to even ponder the possibility.

One big screwup that adds to the insanity ... Obama literally created ISIS by withdrawing all American forces from Iraq in 2011, and against the advice of his military leaders. He did it purely for 2012 political purposes ... disgusting.

ISIS is what's causing the current Islamic invasion of Europe by refugees. It's obvious to anyone who looks at the current situation. Try thinking about it ...

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Well, Mr. List Maker, you are holding true to form. The one thing that you always completely ignore is what he was handed both economically and politically. What did Obama do prior to his presidency that he should be tagged with all the consequences of the Great Recession? What did Obama do that made American companies send manufacturing jobs overseas? What wars did Obama start in the Middle East that caused the total breakdown of sanity in the Middle East?

So, what you are saying is that Obama was drafted into the presidency, not of his own doing. He did not want to be president and he did not make a whole bunch of promises that he would fix everything, right? His burden was so heavy that he started out BOWING to every foreign leader, friend or enemy. And it was all Bush's fault that he demeaned law enforcement for doing their jobs, called the Republicans "the enemy" and said they could sit at the back of the bus. It was Bush's fault that he lied about Obamacare, which no one had read and probably are still too lazy to read. It was Bush's fault that Obamacare stole over a half trillion bucks from Medicare. It was Bush's fault for the oil spill in the gulf and even though the supreme court told Obama that it was illegal for him to ban drilling, he maintained his ban on drilling.

Funny how Bush's poll ratings have risen, and Obama's have dropped. I am sure that it was Bush's fault. I bet Bush's dog ate Obama's home work too.

You gotta love having a president that makes excuses for his inadequacies and a persistent following that has to make excuses for his poor performance on a daily basis. Where other presidents were leaders, Obama insisted that his cowardice was really just leading from behind. A new term for "following."
And I am sure that it was Bush that insisted that IRS punish the Tea Party, and that the Attorney General sue Arizona for being patriotic and apprehending illegals. Something that the Feds should have been doing, but neglected.

If Obama is so needy, why in the world would Democrats support him? Oh, I just answered my question, he is needy and everyone knows that liberals love to support the needy.....with other's money of course.