Implications of Obama's Religion - Whatever it Really Was: A Muslim Perspective

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The link below is instructive about the Muslim perspective of Obama's religion.* Whether Obama was ever a Muslim or perceived to have been a Muslim and assuming he is a Christian today here are the implications...

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5845

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You're never going to drop this Muslim thing are you Mucci? grrrrrrrrrr

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I dont like to bring any religion into politics, but is there anything in the article that was not true ?

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Sorry, it is hard to put much credence in a man who is known for his hatred and fear of Muslims, considered a neoconservative and is a racist ("brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and not exactly maintaining Germanic standards of hygiene").

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Sorry, it is hard to put much credence in a man who is known for his hatred and fear of Muslims, considered a neoconservative and is a racist ("brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and not exactly maintaining Germanic standards of hygiene").
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Did not know that about the author,and I do believe in most cases,the author of pieces is important !

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Please read the link below. Whether Obama was ever a Muslim or perceived to have been a Muslim and assuming he is a Christian today here are the implication's...

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5845

If Obama thinks he is a Christian but the Muslim world thinks of him as Muslim what are the implications? Do you think he will pass a law that we all have to pray 6 times a day and face to Mecca? As soon as he gets in The White House all women will have to wear the Burka?

What is it that will happen?

John F Kennedy was a truely great President and the first Catholic. Many people though he would reguire all people to eat fish on Friday. That he would give the US over to Rome. Just Silly.

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IMHO....it is all the same one God.....no matter what you call him or her........

just thought I would throw that in!!!!

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Please get off the the racist, and Muslim craaap. Stay on target with the issues. This thread is just plain garbage.

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JFK was a truly great president????

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I was 10 years old when I went to a Democratic committee meeting with my father....JFK was running. He was great in my eyes...he made us laugh, he made us think and he did lead the country.

As I got older and studied things he had some issues. However, to this day I get sad when I think of the days after he was gunned down. I can still hear the drums....

He will always be great in my eyes and I will defend him till I die.

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Please get off the the racist, and Muslim craaap.* Stay on target with the issues.* This thread is just plain garbage.


I hate to break the news to you, but the "Muslim craap" is one of the most series issues facing western civilization.* It is appropriate to at least understand what 1.3 billion (+/-) people may think of a president who just might be an infidel worthy of stoning to death.* Yes, yes, I know, it is the job of the Secret Service to protect him.

Calling this topic racist?* Please note the difference between "race" and "religion"* - in fact,* a religion that has become as much a political and military philosophy as a religion known for it's violent intolerance around the world.

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Sounds like something I studied in High School....in 1936 someone came to power in Europe to him it didn't matter what religion you were. If your mother was Jewish then you were Jewish.

We all know how that turned out.

I thought as Americans we were better than that.

Obama is NOT now nor ever was a Muslim.

And if you keep this up I will be compelled to vote for him. And I leave in one of those battleground states....McCain needs Colorado.

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cologal,

Bad news for you . I also live in Colorado and it will please me to know that my vote will cancel your vote out. Benj

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And if you keep this up I will be compelled to vote for him. And I leave in one of those battleground states....McCain needs Colorado.


OMG.....KEEP IT UP!!!! cologal WANTS to vote for Obama....just needs one more reason and you can give it to him!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

;D

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cologal,

Bad news for you . I also live in Colorado and it will please me to know that my vote will cancel your vote out. Benj


Hey that is really good news.....I needed a reason to vote. So if I can cancel out a McCain in Colorado that's a plus.


LOL.. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Sounds like something I studied in High School....in 1936 someone came to power in Europe...


Yeah, I studied that, too. His name was N. Chamberlain. (I understand that isn't what you were referring to. I thought I'd twist your point a little. ::)

"Chamberlain's legacy is marked by his appeasement policy regarding his signing of the Munich Agreement in 1938, conceding part of Czechoslovakia to German dictator Adolf Hitler. In the same year he also ceded the Irish Free State Royal Navy ports."

The similarity with folks who have their head in the sand about the insidiousness of Islam is not recognizing and acting on a known threat and ridiculing anyone who attempts to bring the seriousness of the threat to the attention of the public.

Merely expressing these concerns has little resemblance to Hitler's fascism as some distort. It sounds like those who are critical of such expression of concern would like to stifle free and legitimate expression - becoming more like those they accuse others of being. They become both Hitleresque and Chamberlainesque.

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You're never going to drop this Muslim thing are you Mucci? grrrrrrrrrr


No. There are some things that are just worth keeping in the forefront...and this is one.

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Oh get off the religion. I agree -we are all in the same world with the the same God or whatever. Bring up your arguments to at least a 10th grade level!!!
Yes , TV is very Republican. Yes, most people think Bush has done a bad job. Yes, our country is very split between Democrats and Republicans. Both parties will spin so their candidates will win. Just don't put crap on this board. The religion question is crap.

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Yeah, I studied that, too. His name was N. Chamberlain. (I understand that isn't what you were referring to. I thought I'd twist your point a little. ::)

"Chamberlain's legacy is marked by his appeasement policy regarding his signing of the Munich Agreement in 1938, conceding part of Czechoslovakia to German dictator Adolf Hitler. In the same year he also ceded the Irish Free State Royal Navy ports."

The similarity with folks who have their head in the sand about the insidiousness of Islam is not recognizing and acting on a known threat and ridiculing anyone who attempts to bring the seriousness of the threat to the attention of the public.

Merely expressing these concerns has little resemblance to Hitler's fascism as some distort. It sounds like those who are critical of such expression of concern would like to stifle free and legitimate expression - becoming more like those they accuse others of being. They become both Hitleresque and Chamberlainesque.


The only thing I would like to point out is....Radical Islam is a threat to the entire world. Anything, including religion, taken to an extreme is not good. My point about the Jews was, in those years, only that anyone with a Jewish mother was therefore a Jew.

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Oh get off the religion. I agree -we are all in the same world with the the same God or whatever. Bring up your arguments to at least a 10th grade level!!!
Yes , TV is very Republican. Yes, most people think Bush has done a bad job. Yes, our country is very split between Democrats and Republicans. Both parties will spin so their candidates will win. Just don't put crap on this board. The religion question is crap.



:agree:
Alex my dear...where did you come from...God Bless you...or whatever!!!

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My point about the Jews was, in those years, only that anyone with a Jewish mother was therefore a Jew.


Which I believe always was and remains today Jewish law.

From Judaism 101: Who is a Jew? A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.

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Which I believe always was and remains today Jewish law.

From Judaism 101: Who is a Jew? A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.



Aaahhhh....Muncle is back.....and I LOVE it!!!! Whether I agree or not....I love the attitude and prospective!

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Why are Muslims allowed to enter this country if they are so radical and hated?

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Not all Muslims are radical. Except I do dislike the women covering their hair..It makes me think they are not as respected, but I am very ignorant of the Islamic faith.

I remember when JFK ran for president that rumors ran rampant about the Pope having him in his control.

Why am I here posting in this political forum? :dontknow: I must have lost my mind.

Don't let me back in here. Or ignore me.

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Gracie, RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. Get out of there quickly!!!! It's a cold_cold place!!

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Why am I here posting in this political forum? :dontknow: I must have lost my mind.
Don't let me back in here. Or ignore me.



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It's ok Gracie...it happens to the best of us....and me too! ;)

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Not all Muslims are radical.

Very true.* Not all Muslims are radical.* Maybe only 5 or 10% are???* Hmmm, that would be, out of over 1 billion Muslims, only 50 to 100 million?* And how many of those "radicals" are in our country or plotting against it?*

Could you imagine the outcry against Christians if 10% of us were abortion clinic bombers?* Right now that percentage is probably closer to 0.00001% and those radicals still give us a bad name.

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Very true. Not all Muslims are radical. Maybe only 5 or 10% are??? Hmmm, that would be, out of over 1 billion Muslims, only 50 to 100 million? And how many of those "radicals" are in our country or plotting against it?

Could you imagine the outcry against Christians if 10% of us were abortion clinic bombers? Right now that percentage is probably closer to 0.00001% and those radicals still give us a bad name.


I agree anything taken to an extreme is never good.

I just noticed that you lived in Manassas, Va....did you know the State Senator Chuck Colgan? One of the few Pro-life Democrats..he stood up to the party and refused to vote Pro Choice.