McCain names Sarah Palin VP running mate

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121993453813079803.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news

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Wow! That is a surprise!!!

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Shallow, isn't it. ::)

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Shallow, isn't it. ::)


How? From what little I've read of her, I'm impressed. We'll see more when the dust settles.

While not a "good ole boy", she seems to have more experience then Senator Obama without a tenth of the controversy.....but it is a bit early to say anything.

Frank D.

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Boy I am impressed with her so far:

A working Mom with 5 kids
A independent thinker and reformer
She fought Big Oil and won
Has Executive experience
has a record of supporting green energy programs
fought bureaucracy and big government spending

Sounds like a pleasant change

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Boy I am impressed with her so far:

A working Mom with 5 kids
A independent thinker and reformer
She fought Big Oil and won
Has Executive experience
has a record of supporting green energy programs
fought bureaucracy and big government spending

Sounds like a pleasant change



We wouldn't want anyone, especially a female, with common sense to be involved with politics now would we? Obama is always spouting "change", Sarah Palin is what we conservatives call change, and a fresh one at that.
McCain/Palin 2008 for a real change!!

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Not worth a comment. I think McCain could have picked Goofy and the Republicans would have found a reason to think the choice was wonderful. Seeeeeee youuuuu, in November ....
That was me singing! :o

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Not worth a comment. I think McCain could have picked Goofy and the Republicans would have found a reason to think the chose was wonderful. Seeeeeee youuuuu, in November ....
That was me singing! :o


Nor is this one worth a comment, but what the heck --- Likely, had the "chose" been Goofy, I doubt there would have been that much acclaim, even though Goofy also has better credential, less questionable baggage, and is overall better qualified than Obama.

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Hmmm- well, I guess the “experience” factor doesn’t mean anything after all. I imagine McCain will now remove all ads pointing to Obama’s “inexperience”. It looks like his new strategy is to find the person with the least amount of influence, make her his VP choice and tout her as an undiscovered savior. The idea is if you can’t beat the “inexperienced crowd” you might as well join them. Is McCain really in this thing to win or is he just a sacrificial lamb thrown out by the Republican party in a no win political year? If I remember correctly the Republican machine nominated Bob Dole (who? – oh, yeah) as their choice against an unbeatable Bill Clinton.

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I guess the “experience” factor doesn’t mean anything after all.

But Obama is running for president, not vice president. On the job training for president?? Come on, give us a break.

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I'm impressed with Sarah Palin thus far

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But Obama is running for president, not vice president. On the job training for president?? Come on, give us a break.

So what you’re saying is that the VP slot is just a figurehead who can be void of qualifications or experience? That’s quite a comforting thought knowing a rock can fill the position. I’d rather have an experienced hand a heartbeat away from the presidency but if I need training as a commercial fisherman I will know where to go.

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There is no comparison between 'experience' in Pres. and Veep. The President will be running the country immediately. People vote for the President...not the Veep.

As far as experience.....Gov. of a State, Mayor of a city....has much more leadership experience than being a state senator or u.s. senator - of which you are one of 100.

Hmmmm apples and oranges....they are not the same

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Gee, why is it not OK for anyone to say anything about Obamas wife...and yet we are already dissing Sarah and her husbands career. This is what I hate about politics...people get mean. Everyone has an opinoin....why can't we all just agree to disagree and not dis anyone. This goes for both parties...Rep. and Dem.

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Just what does experience mean?

It is such a meaningless gage to try to apply to a politician.

BTK

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The irony here is fantastic.
Only a dem could have the hudspa to stand up and call Sarah Palin inexperienced as apposed to (Sam and Red this is for you) Obama. She has Executive experience Obama and Biden are Senators, Can anyone tell me what Senators do?, Besides talk.
One of you said " totally inexperienced person only a heartbeat away from the presidency" Isn't that better than a totally inexperienced person in the presidency?
One of you said " do you really think she's ready to step in as president?" one could ask do you really think he's ready to step in as president?

As to a question asked earlier on totv about the seemingly large number of dems here. I dont think there are so many as it is that they are the loudest. They waste no opportunity to disparage those who dare to speak ill about any lefty point of view or person, I think in the hope is that their loud rebukes will discourage any reasonable discussion on the other side. I was so disappointed when I found totv from the first day I noticed that the Bush haters were all over the site. If you will go back and check posts , you will find It is always the dems who call names and make snide remarks and question other posters intelligence. IMPO Benj.

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Just two observations....

Gov Palin, I believe, had served 5 years in office before Sen Obama thought about running for office....

And lastly...from Sen Obama's speech of last night...

"For eighteen long months, you have stood up, one by one, and said enough to the politics of the past. You understand that in this election, the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us - that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn't come from Washington. Change comes to Washington. Change happens because the American people demand it - because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time."


Is not Gov Palin the only one of all 4 candidates who meets that criteria ?

It just struck me when reading this part of his speech !

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Re benj's post - On a totally non-political note, as a New Yorker I just have to correct something. It should be:

khutspe
חוצפּה
Main Entry: chutz·pah (Merriam Webster spelling)
Variant(s): also chutz·pa or hutz·pah or hutz·pa
Function: noun
Etymology: Yiddish khutspe, from Late Hebrew ḥuṣpāh
Date: 1883
: supreme self-confidence : nerve, gall
synonyms see temerity
אַ דאַנק (thank you!)

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Benj, I said neither one. I have not really commented on Obama, McCain or any of them.
I refuse to lose friends over this election. It will come and go. I have commented on the process ripping apart possible friendships. Maybe you have me confused with someone else.






The irony here is fantastic.
Only a dem could have the hudspa to stand up and call Sarah Palin inexperienced as



apposed to (Sam and Red this is for you) Obama. She has Executive experience Obama and Biden are Senators, Can anyone tell me what Senators do?, Besides talk.
One of you said " totally inexperienced person only a heartbeat away from the presidency" Isn't that better than a totally inexperienced person in the presidency?
One of you said " do you really think she's ready to step in as president?" one could ask do you really think he's ready to step in as president?

As to a question asked earlier on totv about the seemingly large number of dems here. I dont think there are so many as it is that they are the loudest. They waste no opportunity to disparage those who dare to speak ill about any lefty point of view or person, I think in the hope is that their loud rebukes will discourage any reasonable discussion on the other side. I was so disappointed when I found totv from the first day I noticed that the Bush haters were all over the site. If you will go back and check posts , you will find It is always the dems who call names and make snide remarks and question other posters intelligence. IMPO Benj.

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"For eighteen long months, you have stood up, one by one, and said enough to the politics of the past. You understand that in this election, the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us - that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn't come from Washington. Change comes to Washington. Change happens because the American people demand it - because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time."

He is bringing "change" so he picks Biden as a running mate. What the heck kind of change is that? And an attack dog senator at that.
As for Palin, for the last two years while she was running a state, Obama was running for president. She has more substance in her baby finger than he does in his whole body.

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Ok Travel,

I tried to spell KHUTSPE several ways and even tried to look it up in the dictionary. Now I know why I couldn't find it. But I hope you get my point anyway.

Just after my post I read the subsequent posts and you only have to go back a few posts to make my point. In just the last few the dems have said...
SO she was runner up in Miss Alaska...I would consider that an accomplishment.
Palin is a featherweight..Obama is?...
She will continue the Bush policy of never telling the truth...
She will spin a good snow job...
She is a Bimbo beauty queen...
McCain picked her because Cindy is starting to show her age...
It's McCains personal policy to dump a partner...
Bush Cheney and " Dumbsfeld" should be executed in the morning
One guy said he couldn't live through another election like the last two. But seems to have lived through them pretty well.

Maybe It's just me but this doesn't seem like people who are very fair minded. Does it to you?

I cought holly hell from members here for calling Obama Lord Obama. They said I was name calling. So what do you call these comments? Are you going to ask these posters to stop language like this? Benj

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It never ceases to amaze me how we think (myself included) we know the answers about political candidates. I feel the problem is we NEVER know what the actual truth is with national politics. We listen to news sources, jump on the bandwagon of someone who “seems” to think the way we do, and “defend” his politics by believing every negative thing that is said about his opposition. Swift Boat coalition against Kerry; complaints about GW’s Air Guard “service”. But where were these guys when Kerry ran for the senate and GW for governor? I guess they were good enough for those offices but not good enough for president?

As cliché as it may sound, my belief is that politicians only have THEIR own interests at heart and not that of the country, and 61 years of living has borne that out. McCain and Bush thought each other an S.O.B. - but now they have kissed and made up - for the good and unity of the PARTY. Who cares about the PARTY? What about the USA? And of course, Clinton and Obama are no different.

I’m a Viet Nam 30% disabled vet an draw a retirement from the AF Reserves after 26 years total service, as well as a 20 year Federal Civil Service and 20 year Plumber union pensions. I am not so much afraid as I am tired of it all, and a registered INDEPENDENT! But I’m glad new generations of interested young voters are taking their place in the “I can make a difference” line - liberals as well as young conservatives. I hope they can make a “difference” - but I don’t have the heart to tell them I don’t believe it will happen.

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Benj ~ My correction of the spelling of khutspe is a totally lighthearted comment. The spelling would be almost impossible to find if you didn't have access to a Yiddish dictionary.
Now on to the topic at hand -
I vigorously oppose name-calling of anyone, politicians or not. My mother used to teach us that it was a sign of ignorance if you could not express yourself without name calling.
You may not know this, but I used to post more frequently, however when I once commented that I found it offensive when people were outright disrespectful and nasty in their remarks about our President (and others), I was told that if I didn't like it, don't read it.
I am registered as an Independent and have not posted any comments supporting or opposing any candidate on this forum. I have posted informational links and just yesterday was criticized for that as well (an AARP survey, which I thought was harmless, and I was told to "wake up").
So I guess it comes with the territory - I'll choose to stay in the kitchen, but hope to help turn down the heat with a little levity when possible.
Have a good weekend!
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and I was told to "wake up").
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TRAVEL...I got the same line a few times. Some folks, if you dont agree with their views, consider you a bit "asleep". I suppose we should thank them for being so sharp and "awake" and keeping us on the right path :)

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Ok Travel,

I tried to spell KHUTSPE several ways and even tried to look it up in the dictionary. Now I know why I couldn't find it. But I hope you get my point anyway.

Just after my post I read the subsequent posts and you only have to go back a few posts to make my point. In just the last few the dems have said...
SO she was runner up in Miss Alaska...I would consider that an accomplishment.
Palin is a featherweight..Obama is?...
She will continue the Bush policy of never telling the truth...
She will spin a good snow job...
She is a Bimbo beauty queen...
McCain picked her because Cindy is starting to show her age...
It's McCains personal policy to dump a partner...
Bush Cheney and " Dumbsfeld" should be executed in the morning
One guy said he couldn't live through another election like the last two. But seems to have lived through them pretty well.

Maybe It's just me but this doesn't seem like people who are very fair minded. Does it to you?

I cought holly hell from members here for calling Obama Lord Obama. They said I was name calling. So what do you call these comments? Are you going to ask these posters to stop language like this? Benj


Suffice it to say that this forum is not connected to Republicans or conservatives in any way except for the few who have the nerve to stick their two sense in on occasion.
Seems as if we are all in training for the socialist regime that we will have to endure if Obama wins. ::)

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Lazeelink..Great post. :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :agree:
They are all a bunch of self serving ----------fill in the blanks!!





It never ceases to amaze me how we think (myself included) we know the answers about political candidates. I feel the problem is we NEVER know what the actual truth is with national politics. We listen to news sources, jump on the bandwagon of someone who “seems” to think the way we do, and “defend” his politics by believing every negative thing that is said about his opposition. Swift Boat coalition against Kerry; complaints about GW’s Air Guard “service”. But where were these guys when Kerry ran for the senate and GW for governor? I guess they were good enough for those offices but not good enough for president?

As cliché as it may sound, my belief is that politicians only have THEIR own interests at heart and not that of the country, and 61 years of living has borne that out. McCain and Bush thought each other an S.O.B. - but now they have kissed and made up - for the good and unity of the PARTY. Who cares about the PARTY? What about the USA? And of course, Clinton and Obama are no different.

I’m a Viet Nam 30% disabled vet an draw a retirement from the AF Reserves after 26 years total service, as well as a 20 year Federal Civil Service and 20 year Plumber union pensions. I am not so much afraid as I am tired of it all, and a registered INDEPENDENT! But I’m glad new generations of interested young voters are taking their place in the “I can make a difference” line - liberals as well as young conservatives. I hope they can make a “difference” - but I don’t have the heart to tell them I don’t believe it will happen.

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Sadly I agree with both Lazeelink and Sam. I do so wish that we were wrong and that politicians were not the self serving, purchased subjects of the "Master" corporations. I really, really, wish I was wrong. I would love it if someone could give me proof of this, not opinions...I have enough of those on my own.

The only good thing I can say about this presidential race is that the vp candidates are more interesting than the p candidates. (I will capitalize their titles when they win me over...which hasn't happened yet, that's for sure.) So far a lot of rhetoric. Today's move though sparked a little interest in me. I may just have to look into Gov. Palin. Biden is interesting on a certain level.

I need to believe that Biden and Palin represent we, the people not the good ol boys...cause I don't believe it of their running mates. And please, the good ol boys are in both parties.

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Well I have stuck my two cents in on occasion and and have got no satisfaction at all for either penny. Seeing how Susan has posted something here I feel safe to post also.
Forget the experience factor and who is a man, white or black and who is a woman. You all must think party. It does not, and I repeat does not matter what Obama says. He will do in the end what Soros and the leftwingers want. McCain will eventually toe the line with the right wing. The only way to to sanely get any kind of rationale out of this or any other election is to know what each party stands for. It's not magic. It is on record. Democrats love big government. Trying to save the world by giving everything to people who won't work for it. They will tear down our military and defense. They will tax you to death and back to pay for all their social programs. Republicans love corporations and money. They will cut or hold down taxes and they will keep the military and defense strong. They make people earn what they have and let them keep it. They will end pork barrel spending. It is the simple philosophy of Liberals (do what feels good at any cost) and conservative (keep things on an even keel). I am a Republican and a conservative, seeing 80,000 people at a football stadium to hear a speech made me cry just thinking how much money that fiasco cost. I'm sure that money could have gone to people, who as Obama opines, feel the pain. Obama is the most liberal person in Washington and Biden is third. That should be enough to scare the pants off of you. Foreign relations experience. Forgetaboutit....No big deal. That is why we have a Congress and Senate. That is why we have a Secretary of State and Defense. Bush just didn't go to war. Congress went along with the same information he had. There were 18 UN resolutions outstanding. Don't forget it was Bill Clinton who named Saddam an outlaw and called for regime change. If Bush went in for oil, as all leftwingers would have you believe, then how come we don't have oil fields in our possession and the Iraqi people living on handouts. Think party people, you elect a party and what they stand for, not a person. The person you elect will carry out the party's plank. Always has and always will.........

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"And there they go, McCain and Palin,

To the trail, they shall be sailin’,

Yet ... I’ve never seen an odder pair,

He so ancient, she 'sooooooooooo' fair."

Anon

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I always did like that poet "Anon!" ;) :joke:

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I am posting against my better judgement because I don't want to make enemies before I even arrive in TV, but I seem to have lost control of my fingers and my husband is not here to tell me to "step away from the keyboard now"!!

So, I'll just simply ask.....how can we pass judgement on a person just introduced to us yesterday??? Seems we are judging on party affiliation only and I think there is alot more to Sarah than any of us now know. I'll admit, I'm hoping to hear alot of good! :bigthumbsup:

Karen

Pssst: some of my best friends are liberals ;D

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I am posting against my better judgement because I don't want to make enemies before I even arrive in TV, but I seem to have lost control of my fingers and my husband is not here to tell me to "step away from the keyboard now"!!

So, I'll just simply ask.....how can we pass judgement on a person just introduced to us yesterday??? Seems we are judging on party affiliation only and I think there is alot more to Sarah than any of us now know. I'll admit, I'm hoping to hear alot of good! :bigthumbsup:

Karen

Pssst: some of my best friends are liberals ;D

Karen.

You are moving right across the street from us. We will have such a great time!

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Graciegirl,

I am sure there are many good times ahead of us and we are counting the days until we arrive...now down to 30!!!!

Karen

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This is definitely becoming more interesting.

Those who are rallying around the Democractic party's Change we can believe in banner being waved by a 3-year Senator with 6 years State Senator experience are now poo-pooing the Republican VP selection of a 2-year Governor with 4 years experience as a city councilperson, 4 years experience as a mayor and 2 years experience as a State commissioner. How hypocritical!

Are there questions about the experience of the Democratic Presidential candidate and the Republican Vice-Presidential candidate? Of course!

Gov. Palin unquestionably brings to the campaign something none of the 3 Senators do - executive experience dealing with the guts part of government: public works, fire and police service; social services, solving domestic problems from up-close-and-personal with Americans (versus the DC ivory tower), seeing tax money spent wisely, how business affect communities, the environment for the local's viewpoint, etc.

That's the big value of having Governors in the Executive Branch - they know what will eat up the time and energy, and what decisions can't be filibustered away, hidden in committee or traded (a bridge for me and you get a dam...). If Americans really are concerned about the economy, the environment, and domestic issues in general, where's THAT experience in a Senator's resume? (that's all three of them!) Senator's talk-the-talk, but never walk-the-walk, because that's done back "home" and not in DC.

If elected President, Sen. McCain will be picking his key advisory team (those with the offices in the Old Executive Building next-door tp the White House), along with the Secretaries of the various Departments of government and independent agencies. If the unthinkable happened, Gov. Palin would be surrounded with the McCain advisors and would undoubtably rely very heavily on their counsel. I don't see a downer in that.

There has been many attempts to portray Sen. Obama in the President Kennedy image - young, dynamic and "change-driven." President Kennedy also picked a former nominee-opponent for VP (as Sen. Obama has) and kept that person totally out of the decision loop, making VP Johnson's first months as President an extraordinary challenge. Would Sen. Biden to suffer the same fate, and why not?

Gov. Palin has demonstrated in her career that she will not be used as window-dressing. If the McCain-Palin ticket wins, I just don't see her being the "invisible VP" that Lyndon Johnson was and what Sen. Biden seems destined to also become.

So, What's the Problem ? ? ?

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Good post as usual, Steve. I'm not saying that because I agree with you, though I do. It is no coincidence or mistake that only two sitting Senators were elected President in the history of the US, and neither of them were all that successful.

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Good Post SteveZ. :bigthumbsup: I usually agree with you on almost every subject. I always read and analyze what you have to say. I can't say the same for many others who use this forum to try to force their opinion and thus try to convert us to their way of thinking. As always I enjoy your posts. :bigthumbsup:

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SteveZ and Muncle,
Keep your opinions(which mirror mine) coming. Enjoy reading posts from both you guys!!!!!!!!!

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I will have to wait and see what happens with whoever winds up being elected President this November. I never quite belief the packaging anymore with politicians. They seem to be a lot like a box of chocolate, you never know what it is until you bite into it and with US politicians-- you usually just cannot spit them out.

I do like the look though of Governor Palin. She looks like a genuine artcle in the mold perhaps of Janet Reno?

Saturday Night Live writers will sure have a lot of with Palin if she becomes VP as she looks very much like Tina Fey.

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Shallow, isn't it. ::)
this coming from a man's view, so I will just walk away for this post....you labeled the wrong person shallow!!!

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this coming from a man's view, so I will just walk away for this post....you labeled the wrong person shallow!!!



So men aren't allowed to have opinions or points of view?? Just because he is a man means he is wrong? GIVE me a break! That is not a very good argument....and I am a WOMAN!!

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I know that the pick of Sarah Palin is a home run if for no other reason that it has the libs panty's in such a wad. They are going crazy because they know she is a game changer.

I already have a campaign slogan for her presidential run ( that will really have the libs in rehab)..

Here it is .... Sarah Palin-palin and simple.

what do you think? Benj

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I know that the pick of Sarah Palin is a home run if for no other reason that it has the libs panty's in such a wad.

Was this set of words the best choice? Couldn't you say that perhaps the democrats are very nervous?

By the way....I am not nervous nor are my panties in a wad.....

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cassie I could have said you libs were apoplectic but I didn't think I could spell it.

HOW BOUT THAT SARAH!!

be careful what you say she's packin heat. Benj

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cassie I could have said you libs were apoplectic but I didn't think I could spell it.

HOW BOUT THAT SARAH!!

be careful what you say she's packin heat. Benj


Well that might have been a better choice of words...whether appropriate or not...you are entitled to your opinion....perhaps "we libs" get excited easily or angered...but it certainly sounds a little nicer then panties in a wad.....my guess is that Mrs. Palin would have used apoplectic versus panties in wad.....I was simply asking for a little dignity while being free to express your opinion....that's all....

Now in regards to packing heat...might you explain the usage of this phrase? If you are talking about me....well I don't think that would be the best description either!

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WOW chels

Your going to talk to someone about dignity on here, no kidding??

The only reason you complain about my remarks is because you know I'm right and I think all you libs do have your panty's in a wad.

As far as packin heat. You libs cant take a joke either. Benj

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WOW chels

Your going to talk to someone about dignity on here, no kidding??

The only reason you complain about my remarks is because you know I'm right and I think all you libs do have your panty's in a wad.

As far as packin heat. You libs cant take a joke either. Benj


Benj, why are you addressing me? I think you mean Cassie. But I will agree that Palin and simple do go together. ;)

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WOW chels

Your going to talk to someone about dignity on here, no kidding??

The only reason you complain about my remarks is because you know I'm right and I think all you libs do have your panty's in a wad.

As far as packin heat. You libs cant take a joke either. Benj


While I appreciate the comment that you think I am Chels....that my friend is NOT right...

and on the same note....when you really know about MY panties then we can talk about them being in a wad....and trust me it is NOT ever going to happen!

I am all for opinions and expressing them...I was just asking for a little dignity....nothing I think I don't try to give....I don't think I have ever talked about a certain party lines panties.....

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Sorry I apologize I got my libs confused.

Believe it or not Simple is an honored trait in alot of the country. So is common sense and good humor. Benj

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You are right BenJ, simply speaking, your can do can't keep up with your want to!!! LOL