The Donald's Honesty.

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Donald Trump Has A Massive PolitiFact Problem, And (Surprise) His Fans Don't Mind (http://reverbpress.com/politics/donald-trump-selling-fear-fibs-surprise-fans-dont-mind/)

This does not surprise me in the least. barf

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Donald Trump Has A Massive PolitiFact Problem, And (Surprise) His Fans Don't Mind (http://reverbpress.com/politics/donald-trump-selling-fear-fibs-surprise-fans-dont-mind/)

This does not surprise me in the least. barf

Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

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Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

:thumbup:

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Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

An amputee could count the number of times she has told the truth, on one hand.

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Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

BIG HUGE difference in the two.

First, I have been saying all along...Trump represents a total disaster for the Republican Party, but to even mention him in the same sentence is diluted thinking AT BEST.

While Trump is now "stretching the truth" to get attention, Ms Clinton has a record that actually defies the imagination.

Beginning back in Arkansas, she has been known, and factually reported on, as a nasty liar who is vindictive and mean.

I have been saying all along that Trump is screwing things up, but I might also add, that the only hope Trump will have should he ever get the nod is to run against Ms Clinton. Her track record...Trump has nine...is so poor, so riddled with controversy and bad judgement...and I have not even touched on he lying and cheating....that he would have open season in her.

Trump is bad.....Clinton escalates lying to anew threshold. There have been BOOKS written on her deceit....BOOKS, not truth-o-meters.

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So Trump is bad in your opinion.....I guess you like to press 1 for ENGLISH!

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So Trump is bad in your opinion.....I guess you like to press 1 for ENGLISH!

And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.

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Has there ever been an election cycle where you didn't choose the best of the worst?

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And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.

Press #1 for Trump or #2 for Hillary. Which would you press?

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And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.

And therein is the problem. Our elected have formed their own political class that is focused on their personal needs and the needs of those special interest groups that contribute to their position. There has to be a candidate that does in fact believe in the rights and needs of the country and it's people. We cannot continue to allow the political class to conduct "their" business as usual with no or at best little regard for those who elected them in the first place.

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And therein is the problem. Our elected have formed their own political class that is focused on their personal needs and the needs of those special interest groups that contribute to their position. There has to be a candidate that does in fact believe in the rights and needs of the country and it's people. We cannot continue to allow the political class to conduct "their" business as usual with no or at best little regard for those who elected them in the first place.

...and Trump brags about how he has contributed money to all candidates so he can have favors.

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...and Trump brags about how he has contributed money to all candidates so he can have favors.

Don't you hate it when a celebrity tells the truth? Darn that man!

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And therein is the problem. Our elected have formed their own political class that is focused on their personal needs and the needs of those special interest groups that contribute to their position. There has to be a candidate that does in fact believe in the rights and needs of the country and it's people. We cannot continue to allow the political class to conduct "their" business as usual with no or at best little regard for those who elected them in the first place.

You don't have much choice. Every one of them is in someone's pocket. Just have to figure out which one closest resembles what you are looking for. America is not going to get perfect. There was only one perfect person that ever existed in the world. If you want a nice person, then you had better hang out in church. You're not going to get nice in D.C. And I don't want "nice." I want ruthless and shrewd right now. Someone that will tell the poor to get off their behinds and contribute to society instead of being leaches. No one criticized Biden for using the "F" word. They laughed. We need a little less PC and substitute manners instead.

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...and Trump brags about how he has contributed money to all candidates so he can have favors.

Does it bother you that special interest groups and lobbyists will seek special favors from Hillary in exchange for their campaign contributions?

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Donald Trump Has A Massive PolitiFact Problem, And (Surprise) His Fans Don't Mind (http://reverbpress.com/politics/donald-trump-selling-fear-fibs-surprise-fans-dont-mind/)

This does not surprise me in the least. barf

So very persuasive ... your brilliant post has convinced me to not vote for Trump, and instead just put up with the usual limp wristed BS and watch the country implode. Great idea ...

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So very persuasive ... your brilliant post has convinced me to not vote for Trump, and instead just put up with the usual limp wristed BS and watch the country implode. Great idea ...

:a20::a20::a20::a20:

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So very persuasive ... your brilliant post has convinced me to not vote for Trump, and instead just put up with the usual limp wristed BS and watch the country implode. Great idea ...

You really think there are not better Republican candidates than the Donald? If you look at his policies too he is not a conservative but wants a "HUGE" government which is going to put up a HUGE addition to the budget deficit. A 1900 mile wall and a great military. That will really make this country great again. What it will do is goad ISIS and other terrorists to target us even more as it will give them all kinds of rhetoric to get more recruits. Trump is a very ugly American.

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And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but your intelligence should be insulted by him if you can maintain a pulse. He is no different than any other pol, promising a lot of stuff he can't deliver.

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I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but your intelligence should be insulted by him if you can maintain a pulse. He is no different than any other pol, promising a lot of stuff he can't deliver.

I am a bit confused, but that is easy to do.

You responded to my post as if my post was in support of Donald Trump.

It was most certainly not. I consider him a blight, and he represents the only hurdle that the Republicans party must overcome to be in the WH.

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Personally, I believe that Trump is not going to honor the "pledge" he took not to run as a third party candidate when the RNC chooses not to have him as the Republican nominee.

Trump will say it was just his way to get around an "illegal contract" and will use it to show how he can undo any Presidential order he deems an "illegal contract" in his mind.

Thus being said, in short, Trump will run, will siphon off votes from Republicans, and the Democrat gets to be President - again!

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Personally, I believe that Trump is not going to honor the "pledge" he took not to run as a third party candidate when the RNC chooses not to have him as the Republican nominee.

Trump will say it was just his way to get around an "illegal contract" and will use it to show how he can undo any Presidential order he deems an "illegal contract" in his mind.

Thus being said, in short, Trump will run, will siphon off votes from Republicans, and the Democrat gets to be President - again!

We can only hope! A jerk like that in the White House is every American's worst nightmare.

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You really think there are not better Republican candidates than the Donald? If you look at his policies too he is not a conservative but wants a "HUGE" government which is going to put up a HUGE addition to the budget deficit. A 1900 mile wall and a great military. That will really make this country great again. What it will do is goad ISIS and other terrorists to target us even more as it will give them all kinds of rhetoric to get more recruits. Trump is a very ugly American.

Given that you can actually say these actions would "goad ISIS" etc indicates you have no credibility to discuss this. They are acting in accordance with Islam 101 so how is standing up to them going to make it worse? WTF?? Have to shake my head at the cluelessness of some people.

On second thought, just get a prayer rug and learn to pray to Mecca.

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We can only hope! A jerk like that in the White House is every American's worst nightmare.

Given that we currently have a major league jerk in the White House, what exactly is your nightmare?

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Given that we currently have a major league jerk in the White House, what exactly is your nightmare?

:agree: :thumbup:

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Given that you can actually say these actions would "goad ISIS" etc indicates you have no credibility to discuss this. They are acting in accordance with Islam 101 so how is standing up to them going to make it worse? WTF?? Have to shake my head at the cluelessness of some people.

On second thought, just get a prayer rug and learn to pray to Mecca.

I see. Having a hothead in the White House will just calm all the other people in the world who have a hatred of the United States based on some very warped view of some major world religion. Try actually reading The Koran as well. What ISIS is doing with it is about the same as what Charles Manson did with Beatles' songs. Both have violence in them but both can be used as weapons for someone's very evil agenda.

I wish they had the poster's name on this so that I could know who is writing this very ugly and very unfair response.

I majored in religious studies at the University of Nevada, Reno. Earned two BAs in History and Philosophy at UNR. A MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver where a close friend of mine Mohammad Mahmood also was studying. I believe he worked at the University of Mosul Library. Mosul has been in ISIS's hands since 2014 or so. I also have a JD from the University of Minnesota Law School and have been a fighter for respect for survivors/victims of crimes and their informational needs since 1991 taking great risks with my reputation and career.

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We can only hope! A jerk like that in the White House is every American's worst nightmare.

Too late, the nightmare is already in there and has been in there for the past six years.

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I see. Having a hothead in the White House will just calm all the other people in the world who have a hatred of the United States based on some very warped view of some major world religion. Try actually reading The Koran as well. What ISIS is doing with it is about the same as what Charles Manson did with Beatles' songs. Both have violence in them but both can be used as weapons for someone's very evil agenda.

I wish they had the poster's name on this so that I could know who is writing this very ugly and very unfair response.

I majored in religious studies at the University of Nevada, Reno. Earned two BAs in History and Philosophy at UNR. A MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver where a close friend of mine Mohammad Mahmood also was studying. I believe he worked at the University of Mosul Library. Mosul has been in ISIS's hands since 2014 or so. I also have a JD from the University of Minnesota Law School and have been a fighter for respect for survivors/victims of crimes and their informational needs since 1991 taking great risks with my reputation and career.

My first reaction is … you really need to seek a refund on your education and degrees because it’s clear you didn’t learn much.

I have indeed read the Koran and studied the life / biographies of Mohammed and like you have multiple degrees. There are in effect two Korans, first one peaceful and second warlike. When Mohmand was in Mecca, he preached peace. However, after about 10 years of preaching he only had about 200 converts. He then got kicked out for being a pain in the butt and moved to Medina …i.e. the Hegira in 622AD. At that point, he snapped and because a warlord and wow, did that new strategy ever work! Gangbusters … he terrorized and killed people by the tens of thousands and his membership skyrocketed..

Most people don’t know, and this include you, that Mohammad was an epileptic which explains his “visions.” Like Charles Manson, Muhammad was a psychopathic killer. Ruthless and bloody. That’s what the ISIS leaders are trying to emulate and they are doing a good job of it … and that’s what I mean by Islam 101.

By the way, Muhammed was also child molester. He was betrothed to this second wife Aisha when she was six and then began sexual relations with her at age 9. Nice guy huh?

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I see. Having a hothead in the White House will just calm all the other people in the world who have a hatred of the United States based on some very warped view of some major world religion. Try actually reading The Koran as well. What ISIS is doing with it is about the same as what Charles Manson did with Beatles' songs. Both have violence in them but both can be used as weapons for someone's very evil agenda.

I wish they had the poster's name on this so that I could know who is writing this very ugly and very unfair response.

I majored in religious studies at the University of Nevada, Reno. Earned two BAs in History and Philosophy at UNR. A MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver where a close friend of mine Mohammad Mahmood also was studying. I believe he worked at the University of Mosul Library. Mosul has been in ISIS's hands since 2014 or so. I also have a JD from the University of Minnesota Law School and have been a fighter for respect for survivors/victims of crimes and their informational needs since 1991 taking great risks with my reputation and career.

Sounds like something Taltarzac would say. He is always attempting to convince everyone of his credentials and expertise in all subjects too.

Politics is ugly. Get over it.

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My first reaction is … you really need to seek a refund on your education and degrees because it’s clear you didn’t learn much.

I have indeed read the Koran and studied the life / biographies of Mohammed and like you have multiple degrees. There are in effect two Korans, first one peaceful and second warlike. When Mohmand was in Mecca, he preached peace. However, after about 10 years of preaching he only had about 200 converts. He then got kicked out for being a pain in the butt and moved to Medina …i.e. the Hegira in 622AD. At that point, he snapped and because a warlord and wow, did that new strategy ever work! Gangbusters … he terrorized and killed people by the tens of thousands and his membership skyrocketed..

Most people don’t know, and this include you, that Mohammad was an epileptic which explains his “visions.” Like Charles Manson, Muhammad was a psychopathic killer. Ruthless and bloody. That’s what the ISIS leaders are trying to emulate and they are doing a good job of it … and that’s what I mean by Islam 101.

By the way, Muhammed was also child molester. He was betrothed to this second wife Aisha when she was six and then began sexual relations with her at age 9. Nice guy huh?

No doubt a pillar of the community.

If liberals continue to get their pacifistic way, we are going to end up in another Crusade. Muslims only respect power, not weakness. And talk without threats is considered weakness to them.

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Sounds like something Taltarzac would say. He is always attempting to convince everyone of his credentials and expertise in all subjects too.

Politics is ugly. Get over it.

Hardly all subjects.

And why do you not actually try doing some research before running your mouth? Would love to know whom I am speaking to?

I received 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications from 1992 through 2002. A very hard thing to do with just the resources of a loving understanding family, 4 degrees, and the use of a computer. I actually think that Donald Trump might be someone who would appreciate my taking on the establishment with respect to practical materials in libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. My 224 613 Project. It always was easier to get some Republican supporters for this than the Democrats. Senator Orrin Hatch was one of the people who helped me out a bit.

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No doubt a pillar of the community.

If liberals continue to get their pacifistic way, we are going to end up in another Crusade. Muslims only respect power, not weakness. And talk without threats is considered weakness to them.

One could view the above as a cause to negate Obama being a muslim.

Or how would muslims view a weak muslim?

In the current case.....a blessing!

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My first reaction is … you really need to seek a refund on your education and degrees because it’s clear you didn’t learn much.

I have indeed read the Koran and studied the life / biographies of Mohammed and like you have multiple degrees. There are in effect two Korans, first one peaceful and second warlike. When Mohmand was in Mecca, he preached peace. However, after about 10 years of preaching he only had about 200 converts. He then got kicked out for being a pain in the butt and moved to Medina …i.e. the Hegira in 622AD. At that point, he snapped and because a warlord and wow, did that new strategy ever work! Gangbusters … he terrorized and killed people by the tens of thousands and his membership skyrocketed..

Most people don’t know, and this include you, that Mohammad was an epileptic which explains his “visions.” Like Charles Manson, Muhammad was a psychopathic killer. Ruthless and bloody. That’s what the ISIS leaders are trying to emulate and they are doing a good job of it … and that’s what I mean by Islam 101.

By the way, Muhammed was also child molester. He was betrothed to this second wife Aisha when she was six and then began sexual relations with her at age 9. Nice guy huh?

Do you have some credible links to this information?

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Do you have some credible links to this information?

Why ISIS Is Not, In Fact, Islamic | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/)

Saying you are Muslim while beheading someone, does not make that person a Muslim. Just a murderer.

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Why ISIS Is Not, In Fact, Islamic | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/)

Saying you are Muslim while beheading someone, does not make that person a Muslim. Just a murderer.

You genuinely do not understand Islamic history ... John Quincy Adams summarized in best almost 200 years ago when he said "...the essence of the Islamic doctrine is violence and lust ... to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature."

The PC crowd, such as Think Progress etc, likes to deny the obvious. Read your history. Mohammed was the Charles Manson of his age, except he had a huge army at his disposal. They killed or enslaved millions. His followers today are simply doing what they were instructed to do back in the 7th century AD.

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Hardly all subjects.

And why do you not actually try doing some research before running your mouth? Would love to know whom I am speaking to?

I received 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications from 1992 through 2002. A very hard thing to do with just the resources of a loving understanding family, 4 degrees, and the use of a computer. I actually think that Donald Trump might be someone who would appreciate my taking on the establishment with respect to practical materials in libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. My 224 613 Project. It always was easier to get some Republican supporters for this than the Democrats. Senator Orrin Hatch was one of the people who helped me out a bit.

Ah, thought so. An ego only rivaled by Trump. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

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One could view the above as a cause to negate Obama being a muslim.

Or how would muslims view a weak muslim?

In the current case.....a blessing!

:agree:

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I am a bit confused, but that is easy to do.

You responded to my post as if my post was in support of Donald Trump.

It was most certainly not. I consider him a blight, and he represents the only hurdle that the Republicans party must overcome to be in the WH.

My apologies, I hit the wrong reply button. Your post was correct

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Ah, thought so. An ego only rivaled by Trump. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

That's really funny. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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You genuinely do not understand Islamic history ... John Quincy Adams summarized in best almost 200 years ago when he said "...the essence of the Islamic doctrine is violence and lust ... to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature."

The PC crowd, such as Think Progress etc, likes to deny the obvious. Read your history. Mohammed was the Charles Manson of his age, except he had a huge army at his disposal. They killed or enslaved millions. His followers today are simply doing what they were instructed to do back in the 7th century AD.

THat was 200 years ago. This is like judging the Christian and Judaic Religions by cherry picking [I]The Bible[/]. There are probably a billion peaceful Muslims.

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That was 200 years ago. This is like judging the Christian and Judaic Religions by cherry picking The Bible. There are probably a billion peaceful Muslims.

Correction.

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THat was 200 years ago. This is like judging the Christian and Judaic Religions by cherry picking [I]The Bible[/]. There are probably a billion peaceful Muslims.

Inside Islam: What a Billion Muslims Really Think - UPF (http://www.upf.tv/films/inside-islam/) Good link.

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Why ISIS Is Not, In Fact, Islamic | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/)

Saying you are Muslim while beheading someone, does not make that person a Muslim. Just a murderer.

If a person puts a dress on and changes his name to Caitlyn, that doesn't make him a woman either.

A person that goes to church may not be a real Christian by some standards.

If one claims to be a Muslim and kills someone, he may be a murderer, but he is also a radical Islamic terrorist. Call it what you want. A scumbag by some standards, a religious freak by others.

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If a person puts a dress on and changes his name to Caitlyn, that doesn't make him a woman either.

A person that goes to church may not be a real Christian by some standards.

If one claims to be a Muslim and kills someone, he may be a murderer, but he is also a radical Islamic terrorist. Call it what you want. A scumbag by some standards, a religious freak by others.

So what? You seem to making out that Islam has a fundamentally violent steak because Mohammad ruled by 7th Century standards. That's like saying that Romans now act and think the same as Romans did back in the 7th Century. They do not. Nor do Germans, Englishmen, Russians, etc.

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That's really funny. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Of course not. I don't have your obvious education, as you said yourself. And I don't have Trump's billions either. And yet, I criticize both equally. Even if I respect Trump's billions more than many years of wasted education and money spent on it, by some. Lighten up, Taltarzac. Just messing with you. I bet I'm not far off though.

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So what? You seem to making out that Islam has a fundamentally violent steak because Mohammad ruled by 7th Century standards. That's like saying that Romans now act and think the same as Romans did back in the 7th Century. They do not. Nor do Germans, Englishmen, Russians, etc.

You're responding to the wrong post. I did not get into the p..ing contest with you over history. I'm talking about present. If you wish to defend the poor unfortunately misunderstood Muslims, that's up to you. Don't expect us to buy it though. Only an idiot would feel sorry for them, when they teach so much hate and evil. But, some are more naive than others. Sorry if I'm not PC enough for you....no, not really.

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Why ISIS Is Not, In Fact, Islamic | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/)

Saying you are Muslim while beheading someone, does not make that person a Muslim. Just a murderer.

If you say so. I'll take their word for it that they are Muslim, before I send them on to meet Allah.

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Of course not. I don't have your obvious education, as you said yourself. And I don't have Trump's billions either. And yet, I criticize both equally. Even if I respect Trump's billions more than many years of wasted education and money spent on it, by some. Lighten up, Taltarzac. Just messing with you. I bet I'm not far off though.

I actually got quite a lot of materials for survivors/victims of crimes into libraries of all kinds from 1992 through 2002. That's why I received the 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications. My efforts were worldwide too. It was not about my ego-- as so much is about Donald Trump-- than what is actually in libraries in every state in the US and many other countries.

My 224 613 Project had an impact and continues to have an impact with helping survivors/victims of crimes. I could not have done that work without the connections made at the University of Nevada, Reno; BYU; the College of San Mateo; the University of Denver, and especially the University of Minnesota Law School. I have had other help from the University of California, San Francisco Health Sciences Campus, Brandeis University, the Harvard School of Public Health and many other institutions.

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If you say so. I'll take their word for it that they are Muslim, before I send them on to meet Allah.

I see so the however million Muslims in the United States are all potential murderers because how Fox TV and other wags portray one of the religions in the world with the most followers?

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I see so the however million Muslims in the United States are all potential murderers because how Fox TV and other wags portray one of the religions in the world with the most followers?

World (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/06/07/worlds-muslim-population-more-widespread-than-you-might-think/) Link for statistics.

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So what? You seem to making out that Islam has a fundamentally violent steak because Mohammad ruled by 7th Century standards. That's like saying that Romans now act and think the same as Romans did back in the 7th Century. They do not. Nor do Germans, Englishmen, Russians, etc.

I am in fact saying this .... the post Mecca (622AD) teachings of muhammed are without a doubt violent and warlike . The history makes it obvious and is undeniable by anyone who can read. Plenty of peaceful Muslims etc but the source doctrine is not.

Actually the best way to understand Islam is to recognize its really an imperial political movement masquerading as a religion

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I see so the however million Muslims in the United States are all potential murderers because how Fox TV and other wags portray one of the religions in the world with the most followers?

You talk like a liberal. You go from one extreme to another. If we can't have a deal with Iran, then it has to be war. No gray area, it's always the extreme.

If a murderer says he is a Muslim, then I will take his word for it that he is a radical terrorist Muslim. Are you going to deny his claim? I did not say all Muslims are radicals, or terrorists or murderers. You said it, not me. Of course, I probably have more experience with Muslims than you do. I didn't get my information from a book, but by experience.

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You talk like a liberal. You go from one extreme to another. If we can't have a deal with Iran, then it has to be war. No gray area, it's always the extreme.

If a murderer says he is a Muslim, then I will take his word for it that he is a radical terrorist Muslim. Are you going to deny his claim? I did not say all Muslims are radicals, or terrorists or murderers. You said it, not me. Of course, I probably have more experience with Muslims than you do. I didn't get my information from a book, but by experience.

Of course, if Iran gets control of a nuclear weapon we should do anything in our power to stop it.

How many Muslims do you know? I probably hung out with six or so at the University of Denver. They were individuals with different backgrounds, beliefs, etc. All from different Middle Eastern Countries. Some allowed their wives to socialize with us Americans, others did not.

I went to law school at the University of Minnesota from 1986-1989. Congressman Keith Ellison-- who I believe is the first Muslim elected to the US Congress-- was Class of 1990. I was Class of 1989. He was not born a Muslim but converted. Except for being very ambitious, I do not remember much of anything else about him as we hardly cared what religion other students were.

I had a two year or so correspondence with Mahmood Mohammad who was a fellow student at the University of Denver GSLIM. He was a librarian at the University of Mosul. His brother was some kind of general or other in Sadda, Hussein's army. His letters to me became filled with more and more hate towards the west as his time away from the US grew further. The Iran-Iraq War dragged on during that time taking thousands of lives on both sides. There are many fanatics still in both Iraq and Iran. THey may base some of that fanaticism on their reading of the Koran. Warriors have often used religious tracts to justify their greed, warlust, or whatever. The University of Mosul is now controlled by ISIS as far as I know. Mahmood Mohammad probably did whatever he had to do to stay alive if he is even still living. Murderous fanatics rarely act with any kind of reason so who knows what happened in Mosul.

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Press #1 for Trump or #2 for Hillary. Which would you press?

The annoying emoter who posted his emotional discharge would clearly press 2 for Hillary given his pseudo passionate diatribe

Washington is broken and corrupt I want someone to wade in and clean house

Thus I press 1

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Of course, if Iran gets control of a nuclear weapon we should do anything in our power to stop it.

How many Muslims do you know? I probably hung out with six or so at the University of Denver. They were individuals with different backgrounds, beliefs, etc. All from different Middle Eastern Countries. Some allowed their wives to socialize with us Americans, others did not.

I went to law school at the University of Minnesota from 1986-1989. Congressman Keith Ellison-- who I believe is the first Muslim elected to the US Congress-- was Class of 1990. I was Class of 1989. He was not born a Muslim but converted. Except for being very ambitious, I do not remember much of anything else about him as we hardly cared what religion other students were.

I had a two year or so correspondence with Mahmood Mohammad who was a fellow student at the University of Denver GSLIM. He was a librarian at the University of Mosul. His brother was some kind of general or other in Sadda, Hussein's army. His letters to me became filled with more and more hate towards the west as his time away from the US grew further. The Iran-Iraq War dragged on during that time taking thousands of lives on both sides. There are many fanatics still in both Iraq and Iran. THey may base some of that fanaticism on their reading of the Koran. Warriors have often used religious tracts to justify their greed, warlust, or whatever. The University of Mosul is now controlled by ISIS as far as I know. Mahmood Mohammad probably did whatever he had to do to stay alive if he is even still living. Murderous fanatics rarely act with any kind of reason so who knows what happened in Mosul.

I sometimes would scold Mahmood about his tasteless Kurd jokes. These were the only jokes he seemed to know.


On Findlaw, I had a good friend who was a Muslim in Malaysia. She was a lawyer of some kind there and was a very gentle and kind person often defending others' right to follow whatever religion their hearts were set on as long as these beliefs did not lead to violence.

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The annoying emoter who posted his emotional discharge would clearly press 2 for Hillary given his pseudo passionate diatribe

Washington is broken and corrupt I want someone to wade in and clean house

Thus I press 1

Hillary or Trump are not the choices yet.

IMHO there are better alternatives on both sides. That might be though the choices we have. Neither one seems particularly honest.

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Hillary or Trump are not the choices yet.

IMHO there are better alternatives on both sides. That might be though the choices we have. Neither one seems particularly honest.

BTW, Hillary Clinton through her time as First Lady and her connection to the Health Care Task Force did send me a very nice letter when I was fighting for better access for survivors/victims of crimes to practical information. This letter was from Carol Rasco who was the William Jefferson Clinton Domestic Affairs Advisor. I would have to look up the date. The Health Care Task Force as far as I know never succeeded in getting their plan off the ground. I have pestered Presidents in the past about the 224 613 Project and whoever becomes President on January 20, 2017 I will try to get them involved in it. I did take a run at Obama/Biden through their ObamaCare but as far as I know did not get anywhere. Maybe, the next administration will be more attune to these ideas.

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https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/111573-post18.html

Looks like it was not as promising as I had thought.

I mean the letter from Carol Rasco who was the Domestic Policy Advisor of the Clinton Administration for some time period.

I sometimes wonder what e-mails of mine will show up in some of these various politician record scrubs.

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BTW, Hillary Clinton through her time as First Lady and her connection to the Health Care Task Force did send me a very nice letter when I was fighting for better access for survivors/victims of crimes to practical information. This letter was from Carol Rasco who was the William Jefferson Clinton Domestic Affairs Advisor. I would have to look up the date. The Health Care Task Force as far as I know never succeeded in getting their plan off the ground. I have pestered Presidents in the past about the 224 613 Project and whoever becomes President on January 20, 2017 I will try to get them involved in it. I did take a run at Obama/Biden through their ObamaCare but as far as I know did not get anywhere. Maybe, the next administration will be more attune to these ideas.

You know, your "me, me, me" pounding on your chest about your fantastic education is pretty boring, Taltarzac. Instead of giving us a synopsis of your lifelong learning, why don't you stick with the thread once in a while. I am sure everyone appreciates you long list of educational institutions that you spent the majority of your life at, while the rest of us were living our lives, but come on, dude. Get back on track with the thread or take a pill, or both.

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I actually got quite a lot of materials for survivors/victims of crimes into libraries of all kinds from 1992 through 2002. That's why I received the 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications. My efforts were worldwide too. It was not about my ego-- as so much is about Donald Trump-- than what is actually in libraries in every state in the US and many other countries.

My 224 613 Project had an impact and continues to have an impact with helping survivors/victims of crimes. I could not have done that work without the connections made at the University of Nevada, Reno; BYU; the College of San Mateo; the University of Denver, and especially the University of Minnesota Law School. I have had other help from the University of California, San Francisco Health Sciences Campus, Brandeis University, the Harvard School of Public Health and many other institutions.

Oh my gosh, I just read this entire thread and you almost never touch on the actual topic you just rant about how spectacular you are. Someone mentioned you're ego being as big as The Donald's. Frankly I'd say that's understating it…..by a long shot. Wholly Cow, I can't imagine how many mirrors there must be in your house. Lest you miss out on an opportunity to see yourself in all your academic glory

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The annoying emoter who posted his emotional discharge would clearly press 2 for Hillary given his pseudo passionate diatribe

Washington is broken and corrupt I want someone to wade in and clean house

Thus I press 1

First off let me say I truly hope it doesn't come down to this. I've thought about this a bit and I don't think I could bring myself to vote for either one. I can say without hesitation I would not vote for Hilary. She's too dishonest (and that's being generous), I don't think she actually likes people. But The Donald hmmm. I think his popularity is in large put due TO his honesty. He just blurts out what ever he thinks and then stands behind it. I will say I wish more or all pol's would do this.

I'll leave with the Bobby Jindal quote - paraphrased about Trump. Donald Trump has never read the Bible. He's not in it.

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First off let me say I truly hope it doesn't come down to this. I've thought about this a bit and I don't think I could bring myself to vote for either one. I can say without hesitation I would not vote for Hilary. She's too dishonest (and that's being generous), I don't think she actually likes people. But The Donald hmmm. I think his popularity is in large put due TO his honesty. He just blurts out what ever he thinks and then stands behind it. I will say I wish more or all pol's would do this.

I'll leave with the Bobby Jindal quote - paraphrased about Trump. Donald Trump has never read the Bible. He's not in it.

I will bet he skimmed over it at some point. If you look at the link I started this with though he does not get good marks for making honest statements according to the fact checkers.

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I will bet he skimmed over it at some point. If you look at the link I started this with though he does not get good marks for making honest statements according to the fact checkers.

My prediction is that Hillary Clinton will be the next President.

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You know, your "me, me, me" pounding on your chest about your fantastic education is pretty boring, Taltarzac. Instead of giving us a synopsis of your lifelong learning, why don't you stick with the thread once in a while. I am sure everyone appreciates you long list of educational institutions that you spent the majority of your life at, while the rest of us were living our lives, but come on, dude. Get back on track with the thread or take a pill, or both.

I must say some of you guys and gals must take mean pills every morning. Or, maybe being cruel just is part of your lack of character?

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Oh my gosh, I just read this entire thread and you almost never touch on the actual topic you just rant about how spectacular you are. Someone mentioned you're ego being as big as The Donald's. Frankly I'd say that's understating it…..by a long shot. Wholly Cow, I can't imagine how many mirrors there must be in your house. Lest you miss out on an opportunity to see yourself in all your academic glory

Not that many mirrors. This is not academic glory but actually making a difference in the lives of survivors/victims of crimes. Maybe some people can see that. Donald Trump has actually touched sometimes on preventing crimes. It is usually in his nasty rhetoric. Information is power though which businessmen certainly understand a great deal.

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Not that many mirrors. This is not academic glory but actually making a difference in the lives of survivors/victims of crimes. Maybe some people can see that. Donald Trump has actually touched sometimes on preventing crimes. It is usually in his nasty rhetoric. Information is power though which businessmen certainly understand a great deal.

You know, you keep it up about survivors/victims of crimes, but you fail to realize that there might be some of us that actually kept folks from being survivors or victims of crimes. Like some of us were law enforcement and some of us are combat veterans, or both. You aren't the only service oriented person out there. I wonder how many babies you have delivered in an automobile. Have you ever given immunization shots to villagers in a jungle environment, or cleaned and dressed a child's nasty wound that had been covered with manure?

Now, get back to the thread and quit beating your chest. Personally, with all that knowledge you seem to indicate that you have acquired, you sure don't seem to know jack.

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My prediction is that Hillary Clinton will be the next President.

You're invited over to my next poker night. I'll enjoy taking your money.

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Oh my gosh, I just read this entire thread and you almost never touch on the actual topic you just rant about how spectacular you are. Someone mentioned you're ego being as big as The Donald's. Frankly I'd say that's understating it…..by a long shot. Wholly Cow, I can't imagine how many mirrors there must be in your house. Lest you miss out on an opportunity to see yourself in all your academic glory

I can't stop laughing. You have bested me in any snide quip or joke I might have used. :eclipsee_gold_cup: I take my hat off to you :ho:

He has got to lighten up on his self adoration. Although, I almost/almost enjoy a bit of it, when he doesn't put me to sleep waiting for the relevancy of his post.

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My prediction is that Hillary Clinton will be the next President.

My prediction is Hillary Clinton will become a resident of Sumter County FL after she is assigned to the Coleman Prison.

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My prediction is Hillary Clinton will become a resident of Sumter County FL after she is assigned to the Coleman Prison.

Ouch! Another excellent quip....:eclipsee_gold_cup:

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You know, you keep it up about survivors/victims of crimes, but you fail to realize that there might be some of us that actually kept folks from being survivors or victims of crimes. Like some of us were law enforcement and some of us are combat veterans, or both. You aren't the only service oriented person out there. I wonder how many babies you have delivered in an automobile. Have you ever given immunization shots to villagers in a jungle environment, or cleaned and dressed a child's nasty wound that had been covered with manure?

Now, get back to the thread and quit beating your chest. Personally, with all that knowledge you seem to indicate that you have acquired, you sure don't seem to know jack.

Yes. A salute to the police and military who are not paid very well for the JOBS they do. My 224 613 Project has been at my and my immediate family's expense with great sacrifice. And it has made a difference if you bother to look at the Photobucket array I have mentioned quite often which has many documents attached. I do think many of the candidates in this Presidential election know about the work I have been doing probably including Donald Trump. I am pretty sure that President Obama and Joe Biden knew about this struggle I had as well during the 2012 University of Denver Presidential debate as well as the VP ones as I 2003 e-mail I had sent many people had been circulating back then. It was published by The Justice a student magazine of Brandeis University. Mitt Romney also probably knew about this Brandeis University e-mail.

I know quite a bit more than many jacks. Practical information for survivors/victims is critical to their ability to journey through the legal system, medical care, support systems, etc. Many organizations supported by efforts to create a dialog between various providers of services.

This thread is about the honesty of Donald Trump. I do like his challenging the establishment about politics as usual. He does seem to want to connect with the people rather than talking at them. We will see how this story progresses.

Again, I value the brave work done by our PAID firemen, police, soldiers, coast guard, etc.

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Ouch! Another excellent quip....:eclipsee_gold_cup:

I see the dreaded six pack is back. A group of die hard hard line Republicans who beat up on any liberal who dares to post on the Political Thread. :cus:

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You're invited over to my next poker night. I'll enjoy taking your money.

Ann Coulter will be proud of you guys. I will drop her a line to look at this Political Thread's contents.

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My prediction is Hillary Clinton will become a resident of Sumter County FL after she is assigned to the Coleman Prison.

She was cleared by the Justice Department the last I heard.

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She was cleared by the Justice Department the last I heard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/us/justice-dept-says-hillary-clinton-had-authority-to-delete-certain-emails.html?_r=0

Supporting link.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/us/justice-dept-says-hillary-clinton-had-authority-to-delete-certain-emails.html?_r=0

Supporting link.

Obviously, you did not read your own link. They did NOT clear her. They said she was allowed to delete CERTAIN personal emails. Nice try.

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She was cleared by the Justice Department the last I heard.

I guess you heard wrong.

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I see the dreaded six pack is back. A group of die hard hard line Republicans who beat up on any liberal who dares to post on the Political Thread. :cus:

Oh, come on. If you are going to come on here calling names, then expect a bit of Big Boy heat. No one is going to sympathize with you. Even the real Democrats know how to debate civilly without name calling. If you are going to take the radical left, liberal stance and call us names, then be a big boy and prepare to stand up for yourself instead of running off to hide when the conversation amps up a bit.

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Yes. A salute to the police and military who are not paid very well for the JOBS they do. My 224 613 Project has been at my and my immediate family's expense with great sacrifice. And it has made a difference if you bother to look at the Photobucket array I have mentioned quite often which has many documents attached. I do think many of the candidates in this Presidential election know about the work I have been doing probably including Donald Trump. I am pretty sure that President Obama and Joe Biden knew about this struggle I had as well during the 2012 University of Denver Presidential debate as well as the VP ones as I 2003 e-mail I had sent many people had been circulating back then. It was published by The Justice a student magazine of Brandeis University. Mitt Romney also probably knew about this Brandeis University e-mail.

I know quite a bit more than many jacks. Practical information for survivors/victims is critical to their ability to journey through the legal system, medical care, support systems, etc. Many organizations supported by efforts to create a dialog between various providers of services.

This thread is about the honesty of Donald Trump. I do like his challenging the establishment about politics as usual. He does seem to want to connect with the people rather than talking at them. We will see how this story progresses.

Again, I value the brave work done by our PAID firemen, police, soldiers, coast guard, etc.

Ok, well while you have had your head in books for years, some of us have lived the real life. Writing about something doesn't make you an expert on it. So far, on each comment you make, whether here or on another forum you spend many lines talking about yourself, instead of the subject. Granted, you do add maybe one line as an after thought regarding the subject of the thread.
I hope you realize that you sound condescending when you say such things like "our PAID firemen, police...." And the fact that you use caps on "PAID" proves how you think lower of them because it is part of their job instead of volunteering. Do you really think that anyone is awed by your written papers and suggestions to politicians? Dude, have you ever heard of the term "overkill?"

There, you have been successful in diverting attention from the thread to YOU.

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BIG HUGE difference in the two.

First, I have been saying all along...Trump represents a total disaster for the Republican Party, but to even mention him in the same sentence is diluted thinking AT BEST.

While Trump is now "stretching the truth" to get attention, Ms Clinton has a record that actually defies the imagination.

Beginning back in Arkansas, she has been known, and factually reported on, as a nasty liar who is vindictive and mean.

I have been saying all along that Trump is screwing things up, but I might also add, that the only hope Trump will have should he ever get the nod is to run against Ms Clinton. Her track record...Trump has nine...is so poor, so riddled with controversy and bad judgement...and I have not even touched on he lying and cheating....that he would have open season in her.

Trump is bad.....Clinton escalates lying to anew threshold. There have been BOOKS written on her deceit....BOOKS, not truth-o-meters.

Dear Guest: Is it beyond the realm of possibilities given his past and close relationship with the Clintons and the fact that Trump spends all his time on attacks against any GOP candidate that he is not running interference for Hillary? Have you yet heard him say anything against Hillary? This is a big time take no prisoners businessman that could incur riches and power beyond his dreams if she is elected.

He is bluffing/blustering his way on the campaign trail with not one iota of intelligent policy planning.

The suggestion is ridiculous, right? Well that's what makes it believable that and the fact that Clinton and Trump both swim in the same cesspool.

Personal Best Regards:

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You don't have much choice. Every one of them is in someone's pocket. Just have to figure out which one closest resembles what you are looking for. America is not going to get perfect. There was only one perfect person that ever existed in the world. If you want a nice person, then you had better hang out in church. You're not going to get nice in D.C. And I don't want "nice." I want ruthless and shrewd right now. Someone that will tell the poor to get off their behinds and contribute to society instead of being leaches. No one criticized Biden for using the "F" word. They laughed. We need a little less PC and substitute manners instead.

Dear Guest: Yea my Dad would say politicians are all crooks and you just have to figure out which one is going to leave a little on the bone for you

I loved my Dad but I thought to myself shouldn't Americans aspire to something greater when electing its leader. I saw it in Ronald Reagan and I saw it in Mitt Romney where both men could conduct politics while maintaining their self. Its defined as unselfishness.

Personal Best Regards:

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You genuinely do not understand Islamic history ... John Quincy Adams summarized in best almost 200 years ago when he said "...the essence of the Islamic doctrine is violence and lust ... to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature."

The PC crowd, such as Think Progress etc, likes to deny the obvious. Read your history. Mohammed was the Charles Manson of his age, except he had a huge army at his disposal. They killed or enslaved millions. His followers today are simply doing what they were instructed to do back in the 7th century AD.

Dear Guest: I happen to agree with you and my reading of history of Mohammad also track with yours.

However the more relevant issue as respects this conversation is that ISIS has shown themselves to be rapists, and barbaric murders killing anyone who they view is in their way. It doesn't take but one beheading or one person left in a cage and drowned to see through their insanity and madness. The only person I know who won't call them Islamic terrorist is Obama and the reaction you get from delusional progressives is Obama is right.

And another reality since this post is really about Trump. If Trump were president he would trade with ISIS if he thought it would make him a buck

Personal Best Regards:

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Dear Guest: Yea my Dad would say politicians are all crooks and you just have to figure out which one is going to leave a little on the bone for you

I loved my Dad but I thought to myself shouldn't Americans aspire to something greater when electing its leader. I saw it in Ronald Reagan and I saw it in Mitt Romney where both men could conduct politics while maintaining their self. Its defined as unselfishness.

Personal Best Regards:

I agree with you, but it won't happen today. We saw how they treated Romney. We have too many greedy/needy voters that will go for the celebrity that will offer them the best show/freebies. I doubt we will see the "nice guy" politician for a long time. Too many selfish people that are afraid of having their gravy train side railed. Right now, we need someone that will embarrass the lazy into working, and motivate the apathetic into participation. Only the thoughtful will vote for a boring candidate over a loud and obnoxious celebrity. There are so many ignorant Americans in our country that want to be entertained, rather than lead into prosperity. Having celebrities at the wheel is like having a driver of a bus that gets out of his seat on a moving vehicle to join the passengers in a drink and song. In Obama's case, he has pulled the bus over to a rest stop to purchase free drinks and food for the passengers instead of putting fuel and maintenance into the vehicle for the long travel ahead.

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Why ISIS Is Not, In Fact, Islamic | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/)

Saying you are Muslim while beheading someone, does not make that person a Muslim. Just a murderer.

Dear Guest: Its very puzzling for me to understand how in the most obvious of circumstance progressives continue to delude themselves? During the Spanish Inquistion were not the evil doing done by Christians;albeit Christians who had a warped perhaps politically bent reasoning for their crimes? I'll bet as a progressive you would agree with this assessment. So why would Obama progressives delude themselves to the fact that ISIS are muslims and that the Koran actually does invoke the annihilation of infidels (us)?

Personal Best Regards:

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Dear Guest: Its very puzzling for me to understand how in the most obvious of circumstance progressives continue to delude themselves? During the Spanish Inquistion were not the evil doing done by Christians;albeit Christians who had a warped perhaps politically bent reasoning for their crimes? I'll bet as a progressive you would agree with this assessment. So why would Obama progressives delude themselves to the fact that ISIS are muslims and that the Koran actually does invoke the annihilation of infidels (us)?

Personal Best Regards:

Liberals will insist that the moon is the sun and the sun is the moon, if it will benefit them in some way. Lying is a preferred character trait for liberals. The logical will never understand their reasoning, unless you consider that it is based on avarice.

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Dear Guest: I happen to agree with you and my reading of history of Mohammad also track with yours.

However the more relevant issue as respects this conversation is that ISIS has shown themselves to be rapists, and barbaric murders killing anyone who they view is in their way. It doesn't take but one beheading or one person left in a cage and drowned to see through their insanity and madness. The only person I know who won't call them Islamic terrorist is Obama and the reaction you get from delusional progressives is Obama is right.

And another reality since this post is really about Trump. If Trump were president he would trade with ISIS if he thought it would make him a buck

Personal Best Regards:

I doubt if anyone with any decency supports ISIS. They are barbaric very evil and will not listen to anyone but whoever is preaching their very warped view of The Koran.

Not sure if Donald Trump trades with Iran or Iraq now? Russia? China? It would be nice to get that kind of information.

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Oh, come on. If you are going to come on here calling names, then expect a bit of Big Boy heat. No one is going to sympathize with you. Even the real Democrats know how to debate civilly without name calling. If you are going to take the radical left, liberal stance and call us names, then be a big boy and prepare to stand up for yourself instead of running off to hide when the conversation amps up a bit.

Big Boy Heat? That's hilarious. Your group's attacks on me are extremely juvenile. Insensitive and mean too but very sophomoric.

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Ok, well while you have had your head in books for years, some of us have lived the real life. Writing about something doesn't make you an expert on it. So far, on each comment you make, whether here or on another forum you spend many lines talking about yourself, instead of the subject. Granted, you do add maybe one line as an after thought regarding the subject of the thread.
I hope you realize that you sound condescending when you say such things like "our PAID firemen, police...." And the fact that you use caps on "PAID" proves how you think lower of them because it is part of their job instead of volunteering. Do you really think that anyone is awed by your written papers and suggestions to politicians? Dude, have you ever heard of the term "overkill?"

There, you have been successful in diverting attention from the thread to YOU.

I have had my head in the books for years? I actually have spoken to many victims and written maybe 4000 victims' rights organization from 1992 through 2002. I wanted to see what they would like to have available in their libraries.

This again is my 224 613 Project which I believe many people in the Villages appreciate. Talk to some librarians in the area.

Back to Trump. This is something that money sure can be made in so I expect if elected he would be interested. Especially if he actually has some concerns for the people he seems to be fighting for in the debates. Not providing enough information of a very valuable kind is something that some in the establishment still seem to want to do. Facebook has made that quite difficult though and it seems some lawyers are also fighting to make practical information about the law much more of a reality. Trump's lawyers could come in handy about this in the struggle to assure that victims/survivors or on a more level playing field in the legal system.

I sent a few e-mails about my work to the Sumter County Clerk of Court when I had jury duty on May 19, 2014. I did not want to blindside them with my life experiences with the Michelle Mitchell 2-24-1976 murder investigation, trial, appeals, media coverage and the re-opening of the Michelle Mitchell murder investigation due to a DNA test of Kathy Woods. Look at the Gypsy Hill murders.

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I have had my head in the books for years? I actually have spoken to many victims and written maybe 4000 victims' rights organization from 1992 through 2002. I wanted to see what they would like to have available in their libraries.

This again is my 224 613 Project which I believe many people in the Villages appreciate. Talk to some librarians in the area.

Back to Trump. This is something that money sure can be made in so I expect if elected he would be interested. Especially if he actually has some concerns for the people he seems to be fighting for in the debates. Not providing enough information of a very valuable kind is something that some in the establishment still seem to want to do. Facebook has made that quite difficult though and it seems some lawyers are also fighting to make practical information about the law much more of a reality. Trump's lawyers could come in handy about this in the struggle to assure that victims/survivors or on a more level playing field in the legal system.

I sent a few e-mails about my work to the Sumter County Clerk of Court when I had jury duty on May 19, 2014. I did not want to blindside them with my life experiences with the Michelle Mitchell 2-24-1976 murder investigation, trial, appeals, media coverage and the re-opening of the Michelle Mitchell murder investigation due to a DNA test of Kathy Woods. Look at the Gypsy Hill murders.

Correction -- Cathy Woods. Cathy Woods exonerated in the murder of Michelle Mitchell - My News 4 - KRNV, Reno, NV (http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Cathy-Woods-exonerated-in-the-murder-of-Michelle/rs4xM_JOyESofCN9JnFMNA.cspx)

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California police charge suspect in four-decade old 'Gypsy Hill Murders' | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/23/california-police-charge-suspect-in-four-decade-old-gypsy-hill-murders/)

A little bit more about my life with me head in books.

One thing I like about Donald Trump. It does seem he talks to people actually on a real level. I have not read his books though. It would surprise me if he actually reads The Bible but this is a book I find my nose in everyone in a while and John 3:16 is my favorite passage.

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California police charge suspect in four-decade old 'Gypsy Hill Murders' | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/23/california-police-charge-suspect-in-four-decade-old-gypsy-hill-murders/)

A little bit more about my life with me head in books.

One thing I like about Donald Trump. It does seem he talks to people actually on a real level. I have not read his books though. It would surprise me if he actually reads The Bible but this is a book I find my nose in everyone in a while and John 3:16 is my favorite passage.

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Oh, come on. If you are going to come on here calling names, then expect a bit of Big Boy heat. No one is going to sympathize with you. Even the real Democrats know how to debate civilly without name calling. If you are going to take the radical left, liberal stance and call us names, then be a big boy and prepare to stand up for yourself instead of running off to hide when the conversation amps up a bit.

Here is the thing about that small group of people who feel always "picked on" and constantly mention the "gang of six" which means nothing to anyone at all.

They are unsuccessful, losers and when they come here, they look for an opportunity for the quips and they will find them because that is how it is.

They always, and forever, ignore whatever the thread is about. They never supply any other link or information to add....

They simply whine about how they are "picked on". There are a lot of liberals who post here and would never stoop to suggesting they are being "picked on". If you quip you get quips in return.

I suggest to that group that they try posting something with facts that actually relate to a current event of some kind.

I think most know who they are and I have been told they...well, honestly two of them are on ignore on most posters TOTV because they do post in the regular forum.

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I have had my head in the books for years? I actually have spoken to many victims and written maybe 4000 victims' rights organization from 1992 through 2002. I wanted to see what they would like to have available in their libraries.

This again is my 224 613 Project which I believe many people in the Villages appreciate. Talk to some librarians in the area.

Back to Trump. This is something that money sure can be made in so I expect if elected he would be interested. Especially if he actually has some concerns for the people he seems to be fighting for in the debates. Not providing enough information of a very valuable kind is something that some in the establishment still seem to want to do. Facebook has made that quite difficult though and it seems some lawyers are also fighting to make practical information about the law much more of a reality. Trump's lawyers could come in handy about this in the struggle to assure that victims/survivors or on a more level playing field in the legal system.

I sent a few e-mails about my work to the Sumter County Clerk of Court when I had jury duty on May 19, 2014. I did not want to blindside them with my life experiences with the Michelle Mitchell 2-24-1976 murder investigation, trial, appeals, media coverage and the re-opening of the Michelle Mitchell murder investigation due to a DNA test of Kathy Woods. Look at the Gypsy Hill murders.

And that has what to do with the thread? :blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahbla hblah:

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Big Boy Heat? That's hilarious. Your group's attacks on me are extremely juvenile. Insensitive and mean too but very sophomoric.

I am not sure who this poster is. I do not know if it is a member of the troll patrol or the newer poster who calls people racist at the drop of a hat and levels charges and then flat out refuses to to back them up....just accuse with no facts.

If it is the second, once you start with the calling people racist because they do not agree with you, you are lost and you deserve whatever you get.

Sophmoric is a very strange accusation from you....really, have you ever read your posts ?

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Dear Guest: Its very puzzling for me to understand how in the most obvious of circumstance progressives continue to delude themselves? During the Spanish Inquistion were not the evil doing done by Christians;albeit Christians who had a warped perhaps politically bent reasoning for their crimes? I'll bet as a progressive you would agree with this assessment. So why would Obama progressives delude themselves to the fact that ISIS are muslims and that the Koran actually does invoke the annihilation of infidels (us)?

Personal Best Regards:

There are parts of The Bible especially the Old Testament which are similar in tone. My guess is that whoever wrote The Koran and I am not sure it was actually Mohammad was very familiar with Old and New Testaments and borrowed aspects of it like the Chosen People and the Ten Plagues and unique relationship with God of some individuals like Moses, Job, Noah, Abraham, Adam and Eve, Jesus, etc.

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I am not sure who this poster is. I do not know if it is a member of the troll patrol or the newer poster who calls people racist at the drop of a hat and levels charges and then flat out refuses to to back them up....just accuse with no facts.

If it is the second, once you start with the calling people racist because they do not agree with you, you are lost and you deserve whatever you get.

Sophmoric is a very strange accusation from you....really, have you ever read your posts ?

I have NEVER called anyone RACIST. That is a flat out lie.

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Big Boy Heat? That's hilarious. Your group's attacks on me are extremely juvenile. Insensitive and mean too but very sophomoric.

You're kidding, right? Seriously?

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Here is the thing about that small group of people who feel always "picked on" and constantly mention the "gang of six" which means nothing to anyone at all.

They are unsuccessful, losers and when they come here, they look for an opportunity for the quips and they will find them because that is how it is.

They always, and forever, ignore whatever the thread is about. They never supply any other link or information to add....

They simply whine about how they are "picked on". There are a lot of liberals who post here and would never stoop to suggesting they are being "picked on". If you quip you get quips in return.

I suggest to that group that they try posting something with facts that actually relate to a current event of some kind.

I think most know who they are and I have been told they...well, honestly two of them are on ignore on most posters TOTV because they do post in the regular forum.

And how is this about Donald Trump?

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I have NEVER called anyone RACIST. That is a flat out lie.

Bye :wave:

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Dear Guest: I happen to agree with you and my reading of history of Mohammad also track with yours.

However the more relevant issue as respects this conversation is that ISIS has shown themselves to be rapists, and barbaric murders killing anyone who they view is in their way. It doesn't take but one beheading or one person left in a cage and drowned to see through their insanity and madness. The only person I know who won't call them Islamic terrorist is Obama and the reaction you get from delusional progressives is Obama is right.

And another reality since this post is really about Trump. If Trump were president he would trade with ISIS if he thought it would make him a buck

Personal Best Regards:

Thanks for putting in your wisdom. A poster who actually tries to talk about stuff rather than making petty, stupid personal attacks on other posters.

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Bye :wave:

Good riddance to you.

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Thanks for putting in your wisdom. A poster who actually tries to talk about stuff rather than making petty, stupid personal attacks on other posters.

The gentleman to whom you directed your comment is always posting things that everyone should read....not that you need to agree but always intelligent and well presented.

HE is the one who is attacked so much as part of the "gang" that the trolls refer to.

I sure wish I had his patience because he takes a lot of heat from those trolls.

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Good riddance to you.

Actually, I was hoping that you would take a hint and leave. You seem so intent on having us respond to you, so that you can slur them with insults, such as "Tea B..ger" or "you are not relevant" etc. Some of us would rather stick with the theme of the thread instead of trading insults with you. You seem to be able to lower our standards to your level (juvenile) when you jump in with your daily slurs. So, feel free to expand your horizon and explore other venues for your childish entertainment. Why don't you log in to the FOX forum and try to trade insults? I think they are calling you.

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Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim | www.wsbradio.com (http://www.wsbradio.com/ap/ap/top-news/trump-declines-to-correct-man-who-says-obama-is-mu/nnhY6/?ecmp=wsbam_social_facebook_sfp)

I found this very interesting about Donald Trump.

There does seem to be secretive parts of Barack Obama's educational background. So, he had a point back then in 2012. The birther movement seemed kind of silly and it looks like Donald Trump is distancing himself from it. I have trouble with anyone saying that Barack Obama is a Muslim. He is more politically astute than that. He would stay a Christian just for the votes IMHO. I am being cynical.

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Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim | www.wsbradio.com (http://www.wsbradio.com/ap/ap/top-news/trump-declines-to-correct-man-who-says-obama-is-mu/nnhY6/?ecmp=wsbam_social_facebook_sfp)

I found this very interesting about Donald Trump.

There does seem to be secretive parts of Barack Obama's educational background. So, he had a point back then in 2012. The birther movement seemed kind of silly and it looks like Donald Trump is distancing himself from it. I have trouble with anyone saying that Barack Obama is a Muslim. He is more politically astute than that. He would stay a Christian just for the votes IMHO. I am being cynical.

I also have a problem with anyone accusing Obama of being a Muslim. When he thinks he is a god, how could he bow to another deity? :bigbow:

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Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim | www.wsbradio.com (http://www.wsbradio.com/ap/ap/top-news/trump-declines-to-correct-man-who-says-obama-is-mu/nnhY6/?ecmp=wsbam_social_facebook_sfp)

I found this very interesting about Donald Trump.

There does seem to be secretive parts of Barack Obama's educational background. So, he had a point back then in 2012. The birther movement seemed kind of silly and it looks like Donald Trump is distancing himself from it. I have trouble with anyone saying that Barack Obama is a Muslim. He is more politically astute than that. He would stay a Christian just for the votes IMHO. I am being cynical.

The link is an excellent example of the media attempting to enforce a PC code ... thou shalt not say anything, anywhere of any type negative, critical or mocking about St. Obie.

You know what, I'm fed up with that.

Obama likely has a soft spot in his heart for Islam (for reasons explained in other posts). He says he's a Christian. Well, he says he loves America too. It's not hard to figure out why people are skeptical of Obie.

If you look at his record, whether he's a professed Muslim or not, he is the most successful Jihadi (defined as advancing Islam) in the last several hundred years. The last time the Muslims advanced on the West was 1683 when they were defeated, largely by Polish Catholics, at the gates of Vienna.

Since Obie has been POTUS we've seen a) creation of ISIS b) removal of essentially all Christians in the Middle East area under ISIS control ... when they have been there since the time of Christ c) an invasion of Europe by hundreds of thousands of Muslims that are, among other things, spreading the faith and d) the enabling of nuclear arms to Iran. Does anyone, even a wacko liberal, have difficulty understanding why people would ask such a question?

And, since when is it Trump or any other candidates job to tell a supporter to shut up? When has Obama ever done that concerning some of the crazy bat sh** comments his supports, many on this board, have made about the Tea Party as but once example?

And I certainly agree with your point ... even if Obama prays to Mecca five times a day in private, he is absolutely astute enough to say in public he's a "Christian" ... otherwise, the rubes would revolt

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The link is an excellent example of the media attempting to enforce a PC code ... thou shalt not say anything, anywhere of any type negative, critical or mocking about St. Obie.

You know what, I'm fed up with that.

Obama likely has a soft spot in his heart for Islam (for reasons explained in other posts). He says he's a Christian. Well, he says he loves America too. It's not hard to figure out why people are skeptical of Obie.

If you look at his record, whether he's a professed Muslim or not, he is the most successful Jihadi (defined as advancing Islam) in the last several hundred years. The last time the Muslims advanced on the West was 1683 when they were defeated, largely by Polish Catholics, at the gates of Vienna.

Since Obie has been POTUS we've seen a) creation of ISIS b) removal of essentially all Christians in the Middle East area under ISIS control ... when they have been there since the time of Christ c) an invasion of Europe by hundreds of thousands of Muslims that are, among other things, spreading the faith and d) the enabling of nuclear arms to Iran. Does anyone, even a wacko liberal, have difficulty understanding why people would ask such a question?

And, since when is it Trump or any other candidates job to tell a supporter to shut up? When has Obama ever done that concerning some of the crazy bat sh** comments his supports, many on this board, have made about the Tea Party as but once example?

And I certainly agree with your point ... even if Obama prays to Mecca five times a day in private, he is absolutely astute enough to say in public he's a "Christian" ... otherwise, the rubes would revolt

I must tell you, I am about as opposed to Obama's policies and attitude as anyway, but your post is a bit out of line.

President Obama has a different view of the world. It is based on his socialist bent and leaning which makes the USA a part of the European mix.

This was obvious when he ran in 2008.

He can be any religion he wants, but I object to the policies he has undertaken and especially his manner in doing so.

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The link is an excellent example of the media attempting to enforce a PC code ... thou shalt not say anything, anywhere of any type negative, critical or mocking about St. Obie.

You know what, I'm fed up with that.

Obama likely has a soft spot in his heart for Islam (for reasons explained in other posts). He says he's a Christian. Well, he says he loves America too. It's not hard to figure out why people are skeptical of Obie.

If you look at his record, whether he's a professed Muslim or not, he is the most successful Jihadi (defined as advancing Islam) in the last several hundred years. The last time the Muslims advanced on the West was 1683 when they were defeated, largely by Polish Catholics, at the gates of Vienna.

Since Obie has been POTUS we've seen a) creation of ISIS b) removal of essentially all Christians in the Middle East area under ISIS control ... when they have been there since the time of Christ c) an invasion of Europe by hundreds of thousands of Muslims that are, among other things, spreading the faith and d) the enabling of nuclear arms to Iran. Does anyone, even a wacko liberal, have difficulty understanding why people would ask such a question?

And, since when is it Trump or any other candidates job to tell a supporter to shut up? When has Obama ever done that concerning some of the crazy bat sh** comments his supports, many on this board, have made about the Tea Party as but once example?

And I certainly agree with your point ... even if Obama prays to Mecca five times a day in private, he is absolutely astute enough to say in public he's a "Christian" ... otherwise, the rubes would revolt

Totally agree :thumbup:

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There are a lot of African Americans who did convert to Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali It seems attractive to some of them.

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There are a lot of African Americans who did convert to Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali It seems attractive to some of them.

Probably just trying to get in touch with their roots. If they could see their distant relatives in Africa now, they probably wouldn't be in such a rush to convert.

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Probably just trying to get in touch with their roots. If they could see their distant relatives in Africa now, they probably wouldn't be in such a rush to convert.

Excellent point since most of Africa is a dysfunctional hellhole.

I think it was Muhammed Ali who, when visiting Africa, said he was sure glad his ancestor was put on "that boat" meaning the slave ship.

Slavery is American's original sin but guess what ... today's descendants of those slaves are still way, way better off here than had they ended up in Africa.

Anyone want to debate that??

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Excellent point since most of Africa is a dysfunctional hellhole.

I think it was Muhammed Ali who, when visiting Africa, said he was sure glad his ancestor was put on "that boat" meaning the slave ship.

Slavery is American's original sin but guess what ... today's descendants of those slaves are still way, way better off here than had they ended up in Africa.

Anyone want to debate that??

That seems true that much of Africa is quite a bloody mess.