Obama invites gays to Pope visit

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OBAMA WELCOMES RELIGIOUS REBELS - Catholic League (http://www.catholicleague.org/obama-welcomes-religious-rebels/)

Apparently, Obama has decided to make a mockery of the Pope's visit (23 Sept) to the White House by inviting a bunch of weirdos as well.

By inviting this group of weirdos to the White House during the Pope's visit, he is demonstrating his religious intolerance.

Atheists
Gay nuns and priests
Transgenders
Pro-abortionists
Also attending is Gene Robinson, the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, who left his wife of 14 years for his male partner, then last year “divorced” that partner.

I'm not Catholic but I defy anyone to prove to me that Obama is the Christian that liberals attempt to insist he is. It is easier for me to believe he is Muslim as that one individual said at the Trump rally than to believe all the assertions attempting to convince us that he is Christian. Just because he attended a hate monger preaching church in the past, it doesn't prove he is any way a Christian convert and this just makes it even harder to believe.

Question: Will he treat the Pope like he treated the leader of Israel, and walk out of/ignore a meeting with him to eat dinner?

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OBAMA WELCOMES RELIGIOUS REBELS - Catholic League (http://www.catholicleague.org/obama-welcomes-religious-rebels/)

Apparently, Obama has decided to make a mockery of the Pope's visit (23 Sept) to the White House by inviting a bunch of weirdos as well.

By inviting this group of weirdos to the White House during the Pope's visit, he is demonstrating his religious intolerance.

Atheists
Gay nuns and priests
Transgenders
Pro-abortionists
Also attending is Gene Robinson, the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, who left his wife of 14 years for his male partner, then last year “divorced” that partner.

I'm not Catholic but I defy anyone to prove to me that Obama is the Christian that liberals attempt to insist he is. It is easier for me to believe he is Muslim as that one individual said at the Trump rally than to believe all the assertions attempting to convince us that he is Christian. Just because he attended a hate monger preaching church in the past, it doesn't prove he is any way a Christian convert and this just makes it even harder to believe.

Question: Will he treat the Pope like he treated the leader of Israel, and walk out of/ignore a meeting with him to eat dinner?

He'll probably also invite Al Sharpton, the families of Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin, Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, Rev. Jeremiah Wright and the leaders of ACORN, black lives matter and CARE as well, so what's the difference?

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OBAMA WELCOMES RELIGIOUS REBELS - Catholic League (http://www.catholicleague.org/obama-welcomes-religious-rebels/)

Apparently, Obama has decided to make a mockery of the Pope's visit (23 Sept) to the White House by inviting a bunch of weirdos as well.

By inviting this group of weirdos to the White House during the Pope's visit, he is demonstrating his religious intolerance.

Atheists
Gay nuns and priests
Transgenders
Pro-abortionists
Also attending is Gene Robinson, the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, who left his wife of 14 years for his male partner, then last year “divorced” that partner.

I'm not Catholic but I defy anyone to prove to me that Obama is the Christian that liberals attempt to insist he is. It is easier for me to believe he is Muslim as that one individual said at the Trump rally than to believe all the assertions attempting to convince us that he is Christian. Just because he attended a hate monger preaching church in the past, it doesn't prove he is any way a Christian convert and this just makes it even harder to believe.

Question: Will he treat the Pope like he treated the leader of Israel, and walk out of/ignore a meeting with him to eat dinner?

It is intuitively obvious to even a casual observer you don't know what the heck you are talking about!!!!

This pope is different than popes in the past something I find refreshing.

Gay Catholics find a new tone under Pope Francis, and from their own bishops - Religion News Service (http://www.religionnews.com/2015/02/16/gay-catholics-find-new-tone-pope-francis-bishops/)

The other thing that is quite obvious you are a bigot....

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It is intuitively obvious to even a casual observer you don't know what the heck you are talking about!!!!

This pope is different than popes in the past something I find refreshing.

Gay Catholics find a new tone under Pope Francis, and from their own bishops - Religion News Service (http://www.religionnews.com/2015/02/16/gay-catholics-find-new-tone-pope-francis-bishops/)

The other thing that is quite obvious you are a bigot....

Same old lame liberal limp wrist attacks ... your bigoted bigot comment.

What is obvious is this ... Obama is not an American in any true sense of the word. He is a Left wing flame thrower who hates the society he "leads"

Allah Akbar does seem to be his guiding philosophy ... even a close minded idiot like you can no longer deny the reality we see.

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He'll probably also invite Al Sharpton, the families of Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin, Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, Rev. Jeremiah Wright and the leaders of ACORN, black lives matter and CARE as well, so what's the difference?

Perhaps you don't know or can't remember this Pope went out and washed the feet of the poor.....

He his head and shoulders above the content of this post.

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Perhaps you don't know or can't remember this Pope went out and washed the feet of the poor.....

He his head and shoulders above the content of this post.

It's not about the Pope, it's about the disrespect the president plans on showing him

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Same old lame liberal limp wrist attacks ... your bigoted bigot comment.

What is obvious is this ... Obama is not an American in any true sense of the word. He is a Left wing flame thrower who hates the society he "leads"

Allah Akbar does seem to be his guiding philosophy ... even a close minded idiot like you can no longer deny the reality we see.

You do realize the term limp wrist implies I am gay?

Thank you for making my case....

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Same old lame liberal limp wrist attacks ... your bigoted bigot comment.

What is obvious is this ... Obama is not an American in any true sense of the word. He is a Left wing flame thrower who hates the society he "leads"

Allah Akbar does seem to be his guiding philosophy ... even a close minded idiot like you can no longer deny the reality we see.

:agree:

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It's not about the Pope, it's about the disrespect the president plans on showing him

This Pope has shown respect in his positions on the poor, the divorced and gays.

Your views are out of step with his!

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:agree:

Oh look another one!!!

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This Pope has shown respect in his positions on the poor, the divorced and gays.

Your views are out of step with his!

And I care about that WHY?

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It's not about the Pope, it's about the disrespect the president plans on showing him

You might have to spell it out for him/her because it is obvious that they don't have the common sense to understand what you are saying. I'm still waiting for the racist accusation, because I don't condone this presidents policies or agenda. No patriotic American would. But, then again I believe in American freedom and exceptionalism. I'm not a European socialist liberal. And I say that with the utmost disrespect to the other poster.

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It is intuitively obvious to even a casual observer you don't know what the heck you are talking about!!!!

This pope is different than popes in the past something I find refreshing.

Gay Catholics find a new tone under Pope Francis, and from their own bishops - Religion News Service (http://www.religionnews.com/2015/02/16/gay-catholics-find-new-tone-pope-francis-bishops/)

The other thing that is quite obvious you are a bigot....

Actually, it is quite OBVIOUS that you don't understand the definition of "bigot." But, I also understand that if your "education" is not given to you, a liberal doesn't have much understanding of a lot of issues.

Here, let me GIVE you or help you understand why you are mistaken (WRONG). A bigot by definition does not tolerate. I tolerate but don't condone. The Pope tolerates but does not condone the sins. Get it? God hates the sin but loves the sinner. I am no better, and I hate the sin and tolerate the sinner. Not always, but as much as an average Christian can.

Obama is a total disgrace to our country and is the most disrespectful person in power that has ever lead (from behind) this country. And speaking of leading from behind, that seems to relate to this/his latest misadventure of inviting deviates to the meeting with the Pope. And I did use that word properly.

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Actually, it is quite OBVIOUS that you don't understand the definition of "bigot." But, I also understand that if your "education" is not given to you, a liberal doesn't have much understanding of a lot of issues.

Here, let me GIVE you or help you understand why you are mistaken (WRONG). A bigot by definition does not tolerate. I tolerate but don't condone. The Pope tolerates but does not condone the sins. Get it? God hates the sin but loves the sinner. I am no better, and I hate the sin and tolerate the sinner. Not always, but as much as an average Christian can.

Obama is a total disgrace to our country and is the most disrespectful person in power that has ever lead (from behind) this country. And speaking of leading from behind, that seems to relate to this/his latest misadventure of inviting deviates to the meeting with the Pope. And I did use that word properly.

Not sure what you mean by "If your education is not given to you"

I had to pay for my education at a Catholic college... I come from working class stock. And I have helped to pay for my sisters children to get their education when their father would not!

I didn't find any tolerance in that post.

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Perhaps you don't know or can't remember this Pope went out and washed the feet of the poor.....

He his head and shoulders above the content of this post.

Sounds like Obama is disrespecting the Pope and Catholics in general by inviting so many deviants to the party. An atheist also. Of course, I doubt you would see it that way. Anyone that will compromise their integrity, morals and ethics to defend Obama must have no pride at all.

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You might have to spell it out for him/her because it is obvious that they don't have the common sense to understand what you are saying. I'm still waiting for the racist accusation, because I don't condone this presidents policies or agenda. No patriotic American would. But, then again I believe in American freedom and exceptionalism. I'm not a European socialist liberal. And I say that with the utmost disrespect to the other poster.

Who called the dogs out?

So now I am european socialist....You all can't stand people who call you out or who disagree with your positions.

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Sounds like Obama is disrespecting the Pope and Catholics in general by inviting so many deviants to the party. An atheist also. Of course, I doubt you would see it that way. Anyone that will compromise their integrity, morals and ethics to defend Obama must have no pride at all.

LOL!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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Not sure what you mean by "If your education is not given to you"

I had to pay for my education at a Catholic college... I come from working class stock. And I have helped to pay for my sisters children to get their education when their father would not!

I didn't find any tolerance in that post.

I tried to explain the definition of Tolerate vs. Condone, but it must have gone over your head. Sorry if I sound impatient, but if one doesn't know the difference between words, then they really shouldn't make accusations that someone is a bigot when they don't know the definition.

And if you are Catholic and don't have a problem with someone disrespecting your Pope, then who am I to comment on it. After all, I am not Catholic. Maybe I should help you along and make some jokes about priests and little boys. Would that set your mind at ease?

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Who called the dogs out?

So now I am european socialist....You all can't stand people who call you out or who disagree with your positions.

I didn't call you a "European socialist" but if the shoe fits.............

Disagree with me all you want, but don't get insulted if I don't agree with you. I believe that the silent majority should voice their opinion regardless of PC. The left doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

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I didn't call you a "European socialist" but if the shoe fits.............

Disagree with me all you want, but don't get insulted if I don't agree with you. I believe that the silent majority should voice their opinion regardless of PC. The left doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

Not going to ever wear that shoe....On the issue of gay rights your apparent position is NOT in the majority.

I'm not insulted...

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Who called the dogs out?

So now I am european socialist....You all can't stand people who call you out or who disagree with your positions.
Speaking of European socialism:

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I tried to explain the definition of Tolerate vs. Condone, but it must have gone over your head. Sorry if I sound impatient, but if one doesn't know the difference between words, then they really shouldn't make accusations that someone is a bigot when they don't know the definition.

And if you are Catholic and don't have a problem with someone disrespecting your Pope, then who am I to comment on it. After all, I am not Catholic. Maybe I should help you along and make some jokes about priests and little boys. Would that set your mind at ease?

I said I went to a Catholic college and I did however, since the Church's handling of the wide spread sexual misconduct and child abuse I have become one of the many recovering Catholic's.

Why would you even say this:

Maybe I should help you along and make some jokes about priests and little boys.

That incident is not a laughing matter!!!

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Speaking of European socialism:

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:ho::clap2::mademyday:

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Not going to ever wear that shoe....On the issue of gay rights your apparent position is NOT in the majority.

I'm not insulted...

I've never been against gay rights. I haven't lived in a time period where they didn't have the same rights as me. I do not agree with special rights though. And the silent majority does NOT condone the gay lifestyle, they tolerate it. Big difference. You can fool yourself, but don't try to make fools of others. Not everyone is gullible enough to believe that the gay lifestyle is normal.

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Speaking of European socialism:

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Where are they? Perhaps they are too poor to leave?

Sorry, liberals, Scandinavian countries aren’t utopias | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2015/01/11/sorry-liberals-scandinavian-countries-arent-utopias/)

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I said I went to a Catholic college and I did however, since the Church's handling of the wide spread sexual misconduct and child abuse I have become one of the many recovering Catholic's.

Why would you even say this:

Maybe I should help you along and make some jokes about priests and little boys.

That incident is not a laughing matter!!!

Friend, you don't give up our faith due to a few bad incidents. I am not Catholic, but I wouldn't disrespect the Pope this way. And I do not see any other way of viewing this. Kind of like the way Obama has disrespected Israel when he ignored a visit from their leader.

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You do realize the term limp wrist implies I am gay?

Thank you for making my case....
I'm with you!

I can't get over the ignorance of this "conversation". It's this type of bigotry that destroys our countries' reputation and standing in the world as LEADERS. All people are created equal. ALL... not just heterosexual Christians. Ask the Pope. I think he'll say the same.

And what's with the anonymity of the original post? Just sayin'

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:BigApplause::BigApplause:

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I've never been against gay rights. I haven't lived in a time period where they didn't have the same rights as me. I do not agree with special rights though. And the silent majority does NOT condone the gay lifestyle, they tolerate it. Big difference. You can fool yourself, but don't try to make fools of others. Not everyone is gullible enough to believe that the gay lifestyle is normal.

Equal rights are NOT special rights!!! Make no mistake about that... You all are on silent nor in the majority.....

Your freedom of religion stops at other people's civil rights.

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That's their cross to bear. I've only been married once and for 42 years, so far. Like I said, one can tolerate, but not necessarily condone. Thank you for an example that I could use.

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Friend, you don't give up our faith due to a few bad incidents. I am not Catholic, but I wouldn't disrespect the Pope this way. And I do not see any other way of viewing this. Kind of like the way Obama has disrespected Israel when he ignored a visit from their leader.

It was NOT a few, the Church said it was just in the US....it was worldwide. Even the Pope's best friend was doing little boys. It was and still is a problem in the church.

I just reached a point at which I could not follow....

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Where are they? Perhaps they are too poor to leave?

Sorry, liberals, Scandinavian countries aren’t utopias | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2015/01/11/sorry-liberals-scandinavian-countries-arent-utopias/)

I'll see your New York Post and raise you a Huffington Post....

Denmark Is Considered The Happiest Country. You'll Never Guess Why. (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4070761)

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You do realize the term limp wrist implies I am gay?

Thank you for making my case....

Of course no surprise there ... you probably are gay.

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Sounds like Obama is disrespecting the Pope and Catholics in general by inviting so many deviants to the party. An atheist also. Of course, I doubt you would see it that way. Anyone that will compromise their integrity, morals and ethics to defend Obama must have no pride at all.

Yes, that's what Obama always does ... he shoots the middle finger to conventional morals, standards and instituyions That's why he's a flame throwing lefty and the WORST, most divisive President in our history although Millard Fillmore was the dullest.

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Of course no surprise there ... you probably are gay.

Keep the insults coming....just makes my point!

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Speaking of European socialism:

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European socialism has contracted a fatal disease ... it's called multiculturalism.

It enables the host to temporarily feel better about itself but destroys its ability to reproduce and defend itself.

In the most delicious of Darwinian ironies, in about 100 years the Islamic invasion will destroy the host, and turn Scandinavia into another 3rd world hellhole like every other Islamic-majority place in this world (except for the oil rich areas)

Very bad, by the way, for "gay rights" as this will be the first to go ... oh well.

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I've never been against gay rights. I haven't lived in a time period where they didn't have the same rights as me. I do not agree with special rights though. And the silent majority does NOT condone the gay lifestyle, they tolerate it. Big difference. You can fool yourself, but don't try to make fools of others. Not everyone is gullible enough to believe that the gay lifestyle is normal.

EXACTLY right ... excellent point

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Yes, that's what Obama always does ... he shoots the middle finger to conventional morals, standards and instituyions That's why he's a flame throwing lefty and the WORST, most divisive President in our history although Millard Fillmore was the dullest.
Interesting Red State article. Also, I can see where some posters get there rhetoric from.

Barack Obama will go down in history as the most successful president since Abraham Lincoln... | RedState (http://www.redstate.com/diary/imperfectamerica/2015/03/09/barack-obama-will-go-history-successful-president-since-abraham-lincoln/)

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Equal rights are NOT special rights!!! Make no mistake about that... You all are on silent nor in the majority.....

Your freedom of religion stops at other people's civil rights.

Just because the court said gays can get married doesn't make them married in God's eyes. Sorry if that makes God a bigot in your eyes, but I don't have the power to change that, even if I wished. If you are suggesting that Gays have a civil right to get married, then you are opening a big debate. They have always had that right, as long as they married according to the definition of marriage. One man and one woman. Personally, I think the government should leave their hands off of marriage as that should be a religious practice. And then that open a whole different aspect of the term marriage that the court can't dispute. The church says one man and one woman. Unless you are Mormon and then it's one man and several woman.

NC voters made the decision in that state to put a state constitutional amendment in that said marriage was defined as one man and one woman. That was the not so silent majority. Other states feel the same way. The court does not speak for the majority.

But, before calling someone out as being a bigot, learn the definition. A requirement for the term "bigot" is INTOLERANT. Just because most of America TOLERATES the gay lifestyle does not necessitate that they CONDONE the deviant/abnormal behavior. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with loving another person of the same gender. Where I draw the line of what I condone or not, is that I feel that having sex with the same gender is abnormal or deviant behavior and not accepted as the norm. You can love someone else and cohabitate with them, but many of us feel that marriage is a religious experience that is defined as between one man and one woman.

Actually, I do NOT see marriage as a CIVIL right. You do not have a right to marry if you do not have anyone that wishes to marry you. You do not have the right to drive if you can't pass the test. There are stipulations on every privilege. Marriage has a stipulation (at least it did) that it is between a man and a woman. And that supposed civil right was always available to gays.

To call it discrimination is like saying it is discrimination if two cousins are refused a marriage license, or a brother and sister, or a man and two women, etc. If we start knocking down stipulations every time a small group of malcontents want a change, under the guise of discrimination, then we will have no set of laws, moral or statutory.

To summarize, I don't condone the gay lifestyle, but I tolerate it because I also have close relatives with that affliction. By definition, I am NOT a bigot.
So, if you call me an undeserved name, then be prepared for a long dissertation.

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It was NOT a few, the Church said it was just in the US....it was worldwide. Even the Pope's best friend was doing little boys. It was and still is a problem in the church.

I just reached a point at which I could not follow....

Sorry, I respect your decision.

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Just because the court said gays can get married doesn't make them married in God's eyes. Sorry if that makes God a bigot in your eyes, but I don't have the power to change that, even if I wished. If you are suggesting that Gays have a civil right to get married, then you are opening a big debate. They have always had that right, as long as they married according to the definition of marriage. One man and one woman. Personally, I think the government should leave their hands off of marriage as that should be a religious practice. And then that open a whole different aspect of the term marriage that the court can't dispute. The church says one man and one woman. Unless you are Mormon and then it's one man and several woman.

NC voters made the decision in that state to put a state constitutional amendment in that said marriage was defined as one man and one woman. That was the not so silent majority. Other states feel the same way. The court does not speak for the majority.

But, before calling someone out as being a bigot, learn the definition. A requirement for the term "bigot" is INTOLERANT. Just because most of America TOLERATES the gay lifestyle does not necessitate that they CONDONE the deviant/abnormal behavior. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with loving another person of the same gender. Where I draw the line of what I condone or not, is that I feel that having sex with the same gender is abnormal or deviant behavior and not accepted as the norm. You can love someone else and cohabitate with them, but many of us feel that marriage is a religious experience that is defined as between one man and one woman.

Actually, I do NOT see marriage as a CIVIL right. You do not have a right to marry if you do not have anyone that wishes to marry you. You do not have the right to drive if you can't pass the test. There are stipulations on every privilege. Marriage has a stipulation (at least it did) that it is between a man and a woman. And that supposed civil right was always available to gays.

To call it discrimination is like saying it is discrimination if two cousins are refused a marriage license, or a brother and sister, or a man and two women, etc. If we start knocking down stipulations every time a small group of malcontents want a change, under the guise of discrimination, then we will have no set of laws, moral or statutory.

To summarize, I don't condone the gay lifestyle, but I tolerate it because I also have close relatives with that affliction. By definition, I am NOT a bigot.
So, if you call me an undeserved name, then be prepared for a long dissertation.

I get your religious opinion and you have the right to your freedom of religion. But that does mean you get to impose your religion on the rest of us.

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I'll see your New York Post and raise you a Huffington Post....

Denmark Is Considered The Happiest Country. You'll Never Guess Why. (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4070761)

Without reading the article, let me guess....Vodka?

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I notice a lot the term "silent majority" on this forum. Everybody is old enough to know where it comes from and should wonder if it might be put to rest like "sock it to me".

Silent Majority definition.
A term used by President Richard Nixon to indicate his belief that the great body of Americans supported his policies and that those who demonstrated against the involvement of the United States in the Vietnam War amounted to only a noisy minority.

https://youtu.be/8qRZvlZZ0DY

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I get your religious opinion and you have the right to your freedom of religion. But that does mean you get to impose your religion on the rest of us.

My opinion is shared by the majority of America. Be glad, because we "Tolerate." But, feel free to invite Muslims into the country. Let's see if they "tolerate." Obama does, if that is any indication.

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I get your religious opinion and you have the right to your freedom of religion. But that does mean you get to impose your religion on the rest of us.

Oh, poor baby. Life must be tough for all the horrible things imposed on you. Where's my violin ???

That's a total red herring and you know that ... tsk tsk

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I notice a lot the term "silent majority" on this forum. Everybody is old enough to know where it comes from and should wonder if it might be put to rest like "sock it to me".

Silent Majority definition.
A term used by President Richard Nixon to indicate his belief that the great body of Americans supported his policies and that those who demonstrated against the involvement of the United States in the Vietnam War amounted to only a noisy minority.

https://youtu.be/8qRZvlZZ0DY

I think a better definition is people with common sense and who adhere (more or less) to the Judeo Christian norms that the country was founded on. (ps and who get upset when Obama shoots us the middle finger as he does often ...)

It's not that difficult to understand and everyone gets it ... except maybe for you.

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I notice a lot the term "silent majority" on this forum. Everybody is old enough to know where it comes from and should wonder if it might be put to rest like "sock it to me".

Silent Majority definition.
A term used by President Richard Nixon to indicate his belief that the great body of Americans supported his policies and that those who demonstrated against the involvement of the United States in the Vietnam War amounted to only a noisy minority.

https://youtu.be/8qRZvlZZ0DY

A couple definitions:

" a presumed moderate majority of the citizens who are too passive to make their views known"

" the majority of a country's citizens, regarded as not politically vocal, outspoken, or active."

But, if Nixon used it, then I guess liberals would consider the term NOT to be politically correct.

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Oh, poor baby. Life must be tough for all the horrible things imposed on you. Where's my violin ???

That's a total red herring and you know that ... tsk tsk

The same could be said about you...the War on Christians?

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Keep the insults coming....just makes my point!

You had a point? Or was it a complaint?

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The same could be said about you...the War on Christians?

Ah, the difference is there is a clear assault on Christianity with the modern day liberal "culture" media and so forth, and certainly aided/abetted by Obie amongst others.

Care to debate the obvious?

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Interesting Red State article. Also, I can see where some posters get there rhetoric from.

Barack Obama will go down in history as the most successful president since Abraham Lincoln... | RedState (http://www.redstate.com/diary/imperfectamerica/2015/03/09/barack-obama-will-go-history-successful-president-since-abraham-lincoln/)

Napoleon was successful too. So was Hitler, and Genghis Khan. I guess it's all a matter of perspective of what's a positive or negative.

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I get your religious opinion and you have the right to your freedom of religion. But that does mean you get to impose your religion on the rest of us.

I agree. And you have your right to whatever perversion of choice, but don't force it on the rest of us. Don't make my religion endorse your practice.

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Napoleon was successful too. So was Hitler, and Genghis Khan. I guess it's all a matter of perspective of what's a positive or negative.

Well, you're certainly correct in that the victors write the history.

Thus, if 50 years, we have about 37 self defined gender categories, we're about ready to convert to Islam and we're all broke, except for the environmental elites who live in coastline fortresses, I imagine we'll see Obie on Mt. Rushmore.

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Ah, the difference is there is a clear assault on Christianity with the modern day liberal "culture" media and so forth, and certainly aided/abetted by Obie amongst others.

Care to debate the obvious?

:thumbup:

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Well, you're certainly correct in that the victors write the history.

Thus, if 50 years, we have about 37 self defined gender categories, we're about ready to convert to Islam and we're all broke, except for the environmental elites who live in coastline fortresses, I imagine we'll see Obie on Mt. Rushmore.

I was told that the Mt. Rushmore idea is a no go. They did some measurements and found that there wasn't enough room for both his ego and his ears.

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Well, you're certainly correct in that the victors write the history.

Thus, if 50 years, we have about 37 self defined gender categories, we're about ready to convert to Islam and we're all broke, except for the environmental elites who live in coastline fortresses, I imagine we'll see Obie on Mt. Rushmore.

This year's freshman class (yes, I know the PC term for them, no I won't use it) at Univ of Maryland has to declare which gender identity they want to be referred to as. There are close to 100 choices. I think 3 choices would suffice---he, she, and it

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ABC news quote :

"Though Pope Francis is considered an especially tolerant pontiff, senior Vatican officials are reportedly anxious “that any photos of the Holy Father with these guests at the White House welcoming ceremony next Wednesday could be interpreted as an endorsement of their activities.”

Wow, there's that term again "tolerant." I wonder if he will get called a bigot for using that word.

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I agree. And you have your right to whatever perversion of choice, but don't force it on the rest of us. Don't make my religion endorse your practice.

Whose asking your RELIGION to endorse anyone's practice.....

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Whose asking your RELIGION to endorse anyone's practice.....

The government. They are trying to make it that if churches don't marry gays then they lose their tax status.

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Whose asking your RELIGION to endorse anyone's practice.....

Anyone want to bake a cake? :boom:

[Guest]

Anyone want to bake a cake? :boom:

You clearly don't understand the law regarding public accommodation. If you own a business open to the public you can't deny service. That law was settled during the civil rights era but perhaps you forgot the lunch counters.

It's settled law and anyone who challenges the law loses.....

I don't understand why you can't bake a cake for a wedding but understand why you might not want to take pictures. I really won't want someone at my wedding how didn't want to be there how about you?

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Napoleon was successful too. So was Hitler, and Genghis Khan. I guess it's all a matter of perspective of what's a positive or negative.

When Obama kills 6 million people then you can compare him to Hitler!!!

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:thumbup:

I don't consider saying Season's Greeting's during the Christmas/Hanukkah instead of Merry Christmas as an assault on Christianity.

Christians on the other hand have and still do assault people with their faith. Take the Southern Baptist's for just one example.

[Guest]

When Obama kills 6 million people then you can compare him to Hitler!!!

No, I think I will now. The subject was not about killing, was it?

[Guest]

You clearly don't understand the law regarding public accommodation. If you own a business open to the public you can't deny service. That law was settled during the civil rights era but perhaps you forgot the lunch counters.

It's settled law and anyone who challenges the law loses.....

I don't understand why you can't bake a cake for a wedding but understand why you might not want to take pictures. I really won't want someone at my wedding how didn't want to be there how about you?

You clearly don't know the background related to the case.

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I don't consider saying Season's Greeting's during the Christmas/Hanukkah instead of Merry Christmas as an assault on Christianity.

Christians on the other hand have and still do assault people with their faith. Take the Southern Baptist's for just one example.

I've never been assaulted by the Southern Baptists. I've been invited to their services though. Is that unreasonable? Or, is that considered "assaulting people with their faith?"

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I've never been assaulted by the Southern Baptists. I've been invited to their services though. Is that unreasonable? Or, is that considered "assaulting people with their faith?"

You need to look into the History of Southern Baptists....

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I thought this thread was about Obama pushing his second favorite special interest group...

blacks = number one.

Gays and transgenders and other sexually confused = number 2.

I am starting to believe we do have a gay black person in the WH (in the residents quarters!

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You need to look into the History of Southern Baptists....

You should look into the history of the Democrat party. Dangerous slave owners, and refused to vote for abolishment of slavery. Some were KKK members too. Ooooh, scarey. Now, they have just morphed into socialist so they are only dangerous to our free lifestyle.

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I thought this thread was about Obama pushing his second favorite special interest group...

blacks = number one.

Gays and transgenders and other sexually confused = number 2.

I am starting to believe we do have a gay black person in the WH (in the residents quarters!

You have doubts? :MOJE_whot:

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When Obama kills 6 million people then you can compare him to Hitler!!!

Much better to compare him with as a half white Putin.

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When Obama kills 6 million people then you can compare him to Hitler!!!

Well, lets start counting.

1. The Syrian refugee crisis is directly and irrevocably due to Obama. How many have, or will die?

2. Of more numerical importance, I would think several Iranian nuclear warheads will get the numbers up quickly.

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I don't consider saying Season's Greeting's during the Christmas/Hanukkah instead of Merry Christmas as an assault on Christianity.


Well, that would make you completely and backassward wrong ... because that was the precise purpose of "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" along with "Xmas" ... all of which are designed to take the Christ out of Christmas.

At some point the Left will push to have 25 December related as the "Winter Holiday"

Anyone want to bet?

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Well, that would make you completely and backassward wrong ... because that was the precise purpose of "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" along with "Xmas" ... all of which are designed to take the Christ out of Christmas.

At some point the Left will push to have 25 December related as the "Winter Holiday"

Anyone want to bet?

Do not take that bet !!!

"If I had my druthers, Christmas would not be a federal holiday. It’s a no-brainer. The First Amendment categorically states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Clearly, designating the date upon which Christians observe the birth of their messiah as a federal holiday is making a law respecting an establishment of religion, and placing governmental weight behind Christianity.

Would I have U.S. citizens forgo end-of-the-year festivals or miss out on a federal day off? Not for the world. I would propose one of two remedies. Option 1: Rename Dec. 25 something secular, like “Family Day.” Uruguay has long celebrated Dec. 25 as Dia de la Familia. Option 2: Make Dec. 21 (the winter solstice), not Dec. 25 (Christmas), the federal holiday. The shortest, darkest day of the year is already a natural holiday, so why not make it a federal holiday as well?"

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/02/17/which-holidays-should-government-recognize/lets-observe-dec-25-but-not-as-christmas

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/christmas-stricken-from-school-calendar-after-muslims-ask-for-equal-treatment/2014/11/11/f1b789a6-6931-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html

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Well, that would make you completely and backassward wrong ... because that was the precise purpose of "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" along with "Xmas" ... all of which are designed to take the Christ out of Christmas.

At some point the Left will push to have 25 December related as the "Winter Holiday"

Anyone want to bet?

Yeah, Happy Solstice! And I bet it's closer than we can imagine. Da** liberal atheists that can't stand anyone being happy or content with live. They are a miserable lot, for sure.

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Do not take that bet !!!

"If I had my druthers, Christmas would not be a federal holiday. It’s a no-brainer. The First Amendment categorically states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Clearly, designating the date upon which Christians observe the birth of their messiah as a federal holiday is making a law respecting an establishment of religion, and placing governmental weight behind Christianity.

Would I have U.S. citizens forgo end-of-the-year festivals or miss out on a federal day off? Not for the world. I would propose one of two remedies. Option 1: Rename Dec. 25 something secular, like “Family Day.” Uruguay has long celebrated Dec. 25 as Dia de la Familia. Option 2: Make Dec. 21 (the winter solstice), not Dec. 25 (Christmas), the federal holiday. The shortest, darkest day of the year is already a natural holiday, so why not make it a federal holiday as well?"

Let'''s Observe Dec. 25, but Not as Christmas - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/02/17/which-holidays-should-government-recognize/lets-observe-dec-25-but-not-as-christmas)

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/christmas-stricken-from-school-calendar-after-muslims-ask-for-equal-treatment/2014/11/11/f1b789a6-6931-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html

I was pleasantly stunned when I moved to The Villages and saw how far they go to celebrate. And the rest of the country wonders why they are so miserable. Atheist hate to see anyone happy. Too bad they won't just move to another country, like a Muslim or Communist country where the Christian religion is banned.

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Do not take that bet !!!

"If I had my druthers, Christmas would not be a federal holiday. It’s a no-brainer. The First Amendment categorically states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Clearly, designating the date upon which Christians observe the birth of their messiah as a federal holiday is making a law respecting an establishment of religion, and placing governmental weight behind Christianity.

Would I have U.S. citizens forgo end-of-the-year festivals or miss out on a federal day off? Not for the world. I would propose one of two remedies. Option 1: Rename Dec. 25 something secular, like “Family Day.” Uruguay has long celebrated Dec. 25 as Dia de la Familia. Option 2: Make Dec. 21 (the winter solstice), not Dec. 25 (Christmas), the federal holiday. The shortest, darkest day of the year is already a natural holiday, so why not make it a federal holiday as well?"

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/02/17/which-holidays-should-government-recognize/lets-observe-dec-25-but-not-as-christmas

"Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/christmas-stricken-from-school-calendar-after-muslims-ask-for-equal-treatment/2014/11/11/f1b789a6-6931-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html

1) Even if you don't go to church and praise God for sending his son as our savior, you can watch for Santa Claus and plan your battle strategy for the retail stores on Dec 26th

2) Who gives a rat's turd what "Muslim Community Leaders" want---they can make a U-turn, head right back to their third world desert $___hole and spout out all the crap they want

[Guest]

Obama invited all those gays and deviates to the White House because he didn't want to face the Pope as the lone gay in attendance.

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It was NOT a few, the Church said it was just in the US....it was worldwide. Even the Pope's best friend was doing little boys. It was and still is a problem in the church.

I just reached a point at which I could not follow....

Ah please don't be so naieve as to limiit the practice to the church. The church happens to get the focus because it is an agenda item for somebody. And as long as there are males in any group there will always be a few disturbed folks that "do boys" while the same hypocrites promote it being OK for the guys to be doing it to each other.

It needs to be put back in the closet instead of being treated as if a major segment of the population has been freed. Gays and "all others" are a minority group that happens to have the support of the government and the media.

The whole subject seems a little queer to me!

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Ah please don't be so naieve as to limiit the practice to the church. The church happens to get the focus because it is an agenda item for somebody. And as long as there are males in any group there will always be a few disturbed folks that "do boys" while the same hypocrites promote it being OK for the guys to be doing it to each other.

It needs to be put back in the closet instead of being treated as if a major segment of the population has been freed. Gays and "all others" are a minority group that happens to have the support of the government and the media.

The whole subject seems a little queer to me!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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Threads like this one show us just how primitive we are. Does Christianity teach this hate? It may be time for some to read the bible, specifically the NEW Testament. I read more hate from supporters of religion than from atheists. Do you not understand that drives uncertain wanderers away from Christianity. Perhaps Luther is guiding you rather than your lord. Do you want that on your resume?

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Threads like this one show us just how primitive we are. Does Christianity teach this hate? It may be time for some to read the bible, specifically the NEW Testament. I read more hate from supporters of religion than from atheists. Do you not understand that drives uncertain wanderers away from Christianity. Perhaps Luther is guiding you rather than your lord. Do you want that on your resume?

The Bible states that God hates the sin and loves the sinner. Atheists have a choice, believe or not to believe. It's their choice. Christianity believes that atheist are condemned to eternal damnation. But, it's not the Christian's fault if one declines salvation. It's their free choice. It's not the Christians blame.

It's probably better if one does not delve deep into religion in a political forum, other than the issue. Obama's disrespecting the Pope is more of a personal affront than a religious issue. Even if the Pope DOES represent a major Christian faith.
Apparently, the Vatican is a bit worried that these weirdos/freaks will attempt to get their photos taken with the Pope and the Vatican does not want this to appear like the Pope endorses their deviant behavior.
Obama, the Muslim is blatantly disrespecting the Pope's position by inviting these "sinners" to the Pope's visit, knowing that they will not be there to be converted or forgiven, but to disrupt the visit and make a mockery of it.
Obama is still acting like a petulant child, that wants attention. He is a very poor representation for America, shaming us all.

[Guest]

Threads like this one show us just how primitive we are. Does Christianity teach this hate? It may be time for some to read the bible, specifically the NEW Testament. I read more hate from supporters of religion than from atheists. Do you not understand that drives uncertain wanderers away from Christianity. Perhaps Luther is guiding you rather than your lord. Do you want that on your resume?

Luther???? As in Martin Luther? Or did you mean Lucifer???

[Guest]

If it's Martin Luther that is being referred to, is that a bad thing? I guess it could be, depending on how you look at it. Seems like a better example of a negative could have been utilized.

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Well, that would make you completely and backassward wrong ... because that was the precise purpose of "Seasons Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" along with "Xmas" ... all of which are designed to take the Christ out of Christmas.

At some point the Left will push to have 25 December related as the "Winter Holiday"

Anyone want to bet?

On this point I would have to disagree....I used Happy Holidays when I don't know the religion of the person. If I do its Merry Christmas.

[Guest]

Obama's intentional act of inviting people who will create an affront to his guest, the Pope is at minimum done in poor taste. It goes to the character of Obama and should be little surprise to many. One wonders what Obama really hold dear and sacred? Its not America, it not Christianity its not capitalism.

He is a socialist but socialism is not conducive to America. Here is one reason why. In Denmark for example socialism works well because the Dane's have an unwritten rule that no one takes more than they need. Not here in America those on the dole whether domestic or foreign milk our system dry.

Our market driven economy has lifted all boats. It may not be perfect but it is the best system in the world and the lefties are destroying it.

As to the Pope. The sexual abuse scandals deeply scarred the Church. The only Pope of Polish ancestry brought hope back to many. The current Pope appeared to have the makings to bring back many to the church because he appeared down to earth sensible etc. However he is either naive or an outright socialist and either way any idea I had to return has been forgotten because I disagree with much of what this Pope has said.

So I will continue to pray from my home follow Christ teachings in my every day life as I am sure a pure heart is as good as going to church will get me to heaven.


Personal Best Regards:

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On this point I would have to disagree....I used Happy Holidays when I don't know the religion of the person. If I do its Merry Christmas.

Hmm, I guess some folks are so worried about PC that they fail to realize that the holiday IS Christ's birthday and we shouldn't be ashamed of referring to it with the traditional Merry Christmas. I'm not ashamed of it and many of my Jewish friends return the same salutation. I also try to remember their holidays so that I can greet them appropriately. That's my option. Just because some folks don't believe, does not make it taboo to greet each other during a holiday with the proper greeting. In my opinion, politically correct would dictate to THEM that they should take the initiative and greet me with my preference of greetings. PC works both ways, not just aimed at boosting up the liberal. I am sensitive to others and their feelings but find it sanctimonious for them to feel that I should change my religious practice to satisfy their non-belief. They have their right NOT to believe in anything, and I have my right to practice my religion as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Being cheerful, charitable and thankful during religious holidays is hardly harming anyone else, and I have no intention of changing for them. It won't change how they feel, so why should I care?

[Guest]

Obama's intentional act of inviting people who will create an affront to his guest, the Pope is at minimum done in poor taste. It goes to the character of Obama and should be little surprise to many. One wonders what Obama really hold dear and sacred? Its not America, it not Christianity its not capitalism.

He is a socialist but socialism is not conducive to America. Here is one reason why. In Denmark for example socialism works well because the Dane's have an unwritten rule that no one takes more than they need. Not here in America those on the dole whether domestic or foreign milk our system dry.

Our market driven economy has lifted all boats. It may not be perfect but it is the best system in the world and the lefties are destroying it.

As to the Pope. The sexual abuse scandals deeply scarred the Church. The only Pope of Polish ancestry brought hope back to many. The current Pope appeared to have the makings to bring back many to the church because he appeared down to earth sensible etc. However he is either naive or an outright socialist and either way any idea I had to return has been forgotten because I disagree with much of what this Pope has said.

So I will continue to pray from my home follow Christ teachings in my every day life as I am sure a pure heart is as good as going to church will get me to heaven.


Personal Best Regards:

Personal Best Regards

Good post! :thumbup:

[Guest]

Obama's intentional act of inviting people who will create an affront to his guest, the Pope is at minimum done in poor taste. It goes to the character of Obama and should be little surprise to many. One wonders what Obama really hold dear and sacred? Its not America, it not Christianity its not capitalism.

He is a socialist but socialism is not conducive to America. Here is one reason why. In Denmark for example socialism works well because the Dane's have an unwritten rule that no one takes more than they need. Not here in America those on the dole whether domestic or foreign milk our system dry.

Our market driven economy has lifted all boats. It may not be perfect but it is the best system in the world and the lefties are destroying it.

As to the Pope. The sexual abuse scandals deeply scarred the Church. The only Pope of Polish ancestry brought hope back to many. The current Pope appeared to have the makings to bring back many to the church because he appeared down to earth sensible etc. However he is either naive or an outright socialist and either way any idea I had to return has been forgotten because I disagree with much of what this Pope has said.

So I will continue to pray from my home follow Christ teachings in my every day life as I am sure a pure heart is as good as going to church will get me to heaven.


Personal Best Regards:

Personal Best Regards

President Obama's act of being inclusive will be viewed by the pope as a really good thing. If the pope were to be offended it would be by the unchristian like comments I've read on this thread. You people have this smug attitude as though you're better than others and yet you are so far off track it is unbelievable. It is really sad that someone who is obviously a bigot could refer to themselves as pure of heart. Ugh!

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President Obama's act of being inclusive will be viewed by the pope as a really good thing. If the pope were to be offended it would be by the unchristian like comments I've read on this thread. You people have this smug attitude as though you're better than others and yet you are so far off track it is unbelievable. It is really sad that someone who is obviously a bigot could refer to themselves as pure of heart. Ugh!

Two points:

1. Enough already of your faux outrage and reflex throwing of the "bigot" "hate" charge ... sooo tiresome and sooo transparent. You really need to up your game.

2. It is obvious to all, except those who choose not to see, the Star Wars bar scene of characters Obie has invited to attend the Pope's event is one more, GIANT middle finger being extended by our sorry excuse for President.

[Guest]

President Obama's act of being inclusive will be viewed by the pope as a really good thing. If the pope were to be offended it would be by the unchristian like comments I've read on this thread. You people have this smug attitude as though you're better than others and yet you are so far off track it is unbelievable. It is really sad that someone who is obviously a bigot could refer to themselves as pure of heart. Ugh!

Another poster that doesn't know the definition of BIGOT. Also good at accusing others of not being open minded. Fact is, that being open minded to sin is not a good thing. I'll leave it up to your god to forgive, and I'll just forget.

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Two points:

1. Enough already of your faux outrage and reflex throwing of the "bigot" "hate" charge ... sooo tiresome and sooo transparent. You really need to up your game.

2. It is obvious to all, except those who choose not to see, the Star Wars bar scene of characters Obie has invited to attend the Pope's event is one more, GIANT middle finger being extended by our sorry excuse for President.

Exactly! :thumbup:

[Guest]

President Obama's act of being inclusive will be viewed by the pope as a really good thing. If the pope were to be offended it would be by the unchristian like comments I've read on this thread. You people have this smug attitude as though you're better than others and yet you are so far off track it is unbelievable. It is really sad that someone who is obviously a bigot could refer to themselves as pure of heart. Ugh!

I'm sure that the Pope, being the Christian he is, will forgive the Muslim for his blatant attempt to flaunt a deviant lifestyle in the Popes face. I am sure that Obama, the Muslim cares little for the feelings of the moral majority.

[Guest]

President Obama's act of being inclusive will be viewed by the pope as a really good thing. If the pope were to be offended it would be by the unchristian like comments I've read on this thread. You people have this smug attitude as though you're better than others and yet you are so far off track it is unbelievable. It is really sad that someone who is obviously a bigot could refer to themselves as pure of heart. Ugh!

It is quite obvious that I am better than some others. But, thanks for the reminder that you know what judging others is all about, as YOU judge others.

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This was said by a famous contemporary politician and it is one of the very few things on which I agree with him.

“Too often in our country, and I think both sides bear responsibility for us, there is to much shouting, at each other, there is too much making fun of each other.”

“It is easy to go out and talk with people who agree with you.”

“It is harder but not less important for us to try and communicate with those that do not agree with us.”

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OBAMA WELCOMES RELIGIOUS REBELS - Catholic League (http://www.catholicleague.org/obama-welcomes-religious-rebels/)

Apparently, Obama has decided to make a mockery of the Pope's visit (23 Sept) to the White House by inviting a bunch of weirdos as well.

By inviting this group of weirdos to the White House during the Pope's visit, he is demonstrating his religious intolerance.

Atheists
Gay nuns and priests
Transgenders
Pro-abortionists
Also attending is Gene Robinson, the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, who left his wife of 14 years for his male partner, then last year “divorced” that partner.

…..

The reason I called this poster a bigot is because he/she referred to gay people and right to lifers as weirdos and said the Pope would be offended by them. Additionally the poster showed intolerance and hatred of Muslims, even referring to the President of our country as being a Muslim. Even if he was, which he isn't, why would that be a big deal? Only a big deal if you hate Muslims, and are a bigot. One last thing: If being called a bigot bothers you so much, you are always free to stop being one. You might want to try acting like the Christian you purport yourself to be. Otherwise I am going to continue to call people like you what you are. And what you are is a bigot.

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I'm sure that the Pope, being the Christian he is, will forgive the Muslim for his blatant attempt to flaunt a deviant lifestyle in the Popes face. I am sure that Obama, the Muslim cares little for the feelings of the moral majority.

Slight correction required for accuracy:

HE DOES NOT CARE AT ALL

[Guest]

Referring to gays as having a "deviant" lifestyle, and showing hatred and intolerance of Muslims, sure fits the definition of bigot: a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group). And then to call oneself a Christian??? You must have learned a different brand of Christianity than the religion that most in this country practice. Yes, you may call yourself a Christian, but you are certainly a hate filled one.

[Guest]

Referring to gays as having a "deviant" lifestyle, and showing hatred and intolerance of Muslims, sure fits the definition of bigot: a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group). And then to call oneself a Christian??? You must have learned a different brand of Christianity than the religion that most in this country practice. Yes, you may call yourself a Christian, but you are certainly a hate filled one.

Full Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed
\-gə-təd\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb
See bigot defined for English-language learners
See bigot defined for kids

So a christian like everybody else can be tolerant and be OK!
Hence as long as one is tolerant they are not a bigot (not a "full" one anyway).
So a statement like;
I dislike muslims and can tolerate their presence as long as they do not try to convert everybody around them.
No bigotry intended at all.

[Guest]

A contemporary politician with whom I pretty disagree said this. It is the one thing that we should all agree on.

“Too often in our country, and I think both sides bear responsibility for us, there is to much shouting, at each other, there is too much making fun of each other.”

“It is easy to go out and talk with people who agree with you.”

“It is harder but not less important for us to try and communicate with those that do not agree with us.”

[Guest]

Full Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed
\-gə-təd\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb
See bigot defined for English-language learners
See bigot defined for kids

So a christian like everybody else can be tolerant and be OK!
Hence as long as one is tolerant they are not a bigot (not a "full" one anyway).
So a statement like;
I dislike muslims and can tolerate their presence as long as they do not try to convert everybody around them.
No bigotry intended at all.

I know it's hard to admit one is a bigot. The hatred and intolerance one shows towards gays (deviants) and Muslims qualifies you though. If it makes you feel better to call yourself a "partial" hate filled bigot, go for it. Thank goodness, fringe fanatics like you are far outnumbered when it comes time to go to the polls.

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I know it's hard to admit one is a bigot. The hatred and intolerance one shows towards gays (deviants) and Muslims qualifies you though. If it makes you feel better to call yourself a "partial" hate filled bigot, go for it. Thank goodness, fringe fanatics like you are far outnumbered when it comes time to go to the polls.

Please note that I did not say hate, seems to be a hang up for you. And I did say I would tolerate them. This takes the wind out of what ever point was intended, however it is what I said not what you want it to say.

The important point to be made is what I intended.........not a convenient re-statement thereof!

[Guest]

I know it's hard to admit one is a bigot. The hatred and intolerance one shows towards gays (deviants) and Muslims qualifies you though. If it makes you feel better to call yourself a "partial" hate filled bigot, go for it. Thank goodness, fringe fanatics like you are far outnumbered when it comes time to go to the polls.

All you seem to do in your posts is rant rant rant about bigots, racist, bigots, yadda ad nauseum.

Here's a suggestion--go look in the mirror and shout at yourself until your inner liberal rage is cleansed. Not quite as good as confession, but may help you nonetheless.

Finally, let's get your definition straight ... you use "bigot" as an epithet to smear or attack people that don't have your enlightened view of the world.

That's because what you deem as enlightened most normal people, with common sense, view as deviant .... which is why we don't like it being shoved in our faces by you and your left wing buddies.

[Guest]

All you seem to do in your posts is rant rant rant about bigots, racist, bigots, yadda ad nauseum.

Here's a suggestion--go look in the mirror and shout at yourself until your inner liberal rage is cleansed. Not quite as good as confession, but may help you nonetheless.

Finally, let's get your definition straight ... you use "bigot" as an epithet to smear or attack people that don't have your enlightened view of the world.

That's because what you deem as enlightened most normal people, with common sense, view as deviant .... which is why we don't like it being shoved in our faces by you and your left wing buddies.

Exactly! :thumbup:

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Please note that I did not say hate, seems to be a hang up for you. And I did say I would tolerate them. This takes the wind out of what ever point was intended, however it is what I said not what you want it to say.

The important point to be made is what I intended.........not a convenient re-statement thereof!

Oh, so you will "tolerate" the deviants? You just just don't get it.

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Since I tolerate but don't condone, I am NOT a bigot. But, if it makes you feel better to make false accusations, then be juvenile and point at me.

Deviant behavior = Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

If you have problems with the English language, blame your teacher.

Obama is Muslim by being the son of a Muslim. He is Muslim by birth, whether he practices his faith or not.

[Guest]

By the way, NO Christian faith and/or most other religions condone the gay lifestyle and it is considered DEVIANT behavior. When you attempt to convince people that the lifestyle is accepted by the majority, that is just not true. It is tolerated as law. Gay marriage in many states was voted in a referendum vote as defined "one man and one woman." North Carolina is an example. The supreme court decided to create their own laws, so they made deviant behavior a civil right.
What is done, is done but don't try to convince anyone that the lifestyle is normal. It isn't. Obama is just like the rest of the gays, trying to force the church to endorse a deviant and Biblically unaccepted practice.
Like I said before, Christians were taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. That's why we tolerate but don't condone.

Liberals love to use baiting, agitating and offensive terms like hate, bigot, racist, and sexist when someone doesn't agree with them. If you don't accept our opinion then move to a country that will accept your way. Oh, that's right, there aren't any.

[Guest]

By the way, NO Christian faith and/or most other religions condone the gay lifestyle and it is considered DEVIANT behavior. When you attempt to convince people that the lifestyle is accepted by the majority, that is just not true. It is tolerated as law. Gay marriage in many states was voted in a referendum vote as defined "one man and one woman." North Carolina is an example. The supreme court decided to create their own laws, so they made deviant behavior a civil right.
What is done, is done but don't try to convince anyone that the lifestyle is normal. It isn't. Obama is just like the rest of the gays, trying to force the church to endorse a deviant and Biblically unaccepted practice.
Like I said before, Christians were taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. That's why we tolerate but don't condone.

Liberals love to use baiting, agitating and offensive terms like hate, bigot, racist, and sexist when someone doesn't agree with them. If you don't accept our opinion then move to a country that will accept your way. Oh, that's right, there aren't any.

I agree ...at some point if liberals really think this Judeo Christian culture (ie what hasn't yet been destroyed) is so rotten, oppressive, mean, racist blah blah blah ... really, just move. Get your sorry a** on a plane and go to Denmark, or Egypt, or Greece, or Syria or Germany ...wherever you think you'll be happier. We will ALL be happier once you do that. I'll even pitch in a few dollars to help you ... as long as you turn in your US Passport when you leave.

[Guest]

The reason I called this poster a bigot is because he/she referred to gay people and right to lifers as weirdos and said the Pope would be offended by them. Additionally the poster showed intolerance and hatred of Muslims, even referring to the President of our country as being a Muslim. Even if he was, which he isn't, why would that be a big deal? Only a big deal if you hate Muslims, and are a bigot. One last thing: If being called a bigot bothers you so much, you are always free to stop being one. You might want to try acting like the Christian you purport yourself to be. Otherwise I am going to continue to call people like you what you are. And what you are is a bigot.

You must have a reading comprehension problem. I didn't see anything that indicated that the poster hates Muslims. I guess you read into it, just like the way you assumed him/her to be a bigot. I noticed another post somewhere that mentioned that if Obama was born of Muslim parent, then he would be Muslim by birth. So, I guess his/her statement would be correct in assuming Obama to be Muslim.

You really should do a bit of research before trying to use big words like "bigot" if you don't know that meaning. You embarrass yourself.

[Guest]

Oh, so you will "tolerate" the deviants? You just just don't get it.

All you need to do is look in the mirror to view who it is that not only does not get it, but shuts out any dialogue that is not in line with the one in the mirror.

Certainly narrows down how much one is able to discuss....does it not!

[Guest]

Speaking of deviants ....Liberals need to recognize that Islam endorses this type of sexual perversion and violence. It's in their "holy books" but most people don't have a clue so they prattle on about Islamophobia and other idiotic concerns.. Anyway, this seems pertinent to the thread.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=1

[Guest]

President Obama's act of being inclusive will be viewed by the pope as a really good thing. If the pope were to be offended it would be by the unchristian like comments I've read on this thread. You people have this smug attitude as though you're better than others and yet you are so far off track it is unbelievable. It is really sad that someone who is obviously a bigot could refer to themselves as pure of heart. Ugh!

Dear Guest:

Your judgmental and misinformed comments are exactly why understanding can never be reached.

For instance you refer to me as a bigot. However you either are not aware or ignore that when two people are on different philosophical planes they simply cannot agree. Because I do not agree with homosexuality does not mean I am a bigot. But people like you use that tactic as if it were a valid argument but clearly amounts to nothing but name calling because you have no valid argument.

Secondly you make a mistake of equating my disagreement with my Christian faith when in fact my feelings are based on nature's plan for continuation of a species. the natural order is man woman = new born.

Thirdly, you ignore the break down in social order stemming from homosexuality. This is especially true in military units where trust and cohesiveness are vital. This is why gay organizations are utilizing useful idiots like Hollywood to push making homosexuality as being normal and hence socially acceptable...enter an abundance of gay characters and gay sex so people get use to it.

Fourth: Again we have different views as to why Obama has included these controversial figures to this visit. Is it inclusiveness? Is it political? Is it Obama's usual in your face demeanor? One thing is clear. Its in very bad taste and hence goes to Obama character.

Fifth: The comments in this thread reveal much about the anger in America and the fundamental reason is that there is a battle going on between "traditionalist" and the lefties who want to carve out a "new normal" which in itself is a oxymoron because the "new normal" as exemplified by the attention Bruce Jenner is getting is "abnormal"

So folks like you can do all the name calling you want but there are people like me that will continue to believe in traditional America and that it was in these beliefs that America was at its best.

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

Dear Guest:

Your judgmental and misinformed comments are exactly why understanding can never be reached.

For instance you refer to me as a bigot. However you either are not aware or ignore that when two people are on different philosophical planes they simply cannot agree. Because I do not agree with homosexuality does not mean I am a bigot. But people like you use that tactic as if it were a valid argument but clearly amounts to nothing but name calling because you have no valid argument.

Secondly you make a mistake of equating my disagreement with my Christian faith when in fact my feelings are based on nature's plan for continuation of a species. the natural order is man woman = new born.

Thirdly, you ignore the break down in social order stemming from homosexuality. This is especially true in military units where trust and cohesiveness are vital. This is why gay organizations are utilizing useful idiots like Hollywood to push making homosexuality as being normal and hence socially acceptable...enter an abundance of gay characters and gay sex so people get use to it.

Fourth: Again we have different views as to why Obama has included these controversial figures to this visit. Is it inclusiveness? Is it political? Is it Obama's usual in your face demeanor? One thing is clear. Its in very bad taste and hence goes to Obama character.

Fifth: The comments in this thread reveal much about the anger in America and the fundamental reason is that there is a battle going on between "traditionalist" and the lefties who want to carve out a "new normal" which in itself is a oxymoron because the "new normal" as exemplified by the attention Bruce Jenner is getting is "abnormal"

So folks like you can do all the name calling you want but there are people like me that will continue to believe in traditional America and that it was in these beliefs that America was at its best.

Personal Best Regards:

:agree:

[Guest]

I'm sure that the Pope, being the Christian he is, will forgive the Muslim for his blatant attempt to flaunt a deviant lifestyle in the Popes face. I am sure that Obama, the Muslim cares little for the feelings of the moral majority.
Obama is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro women's rights, shaves, eats bacon, and drinks beer. After some basic processing, does that sound like a Muslim to you?

[Guest]

Obama is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro women's rights, shaves, eats bacon, and drinks beer. After some basic processing, does that sound like a Muslim to you?

Why not?

With his clearly demonstrated not following any guidelines, rules, constitution, bill of rights, etc and doing what ever he damn well pleases regardless what everybody either does or is supposed to do.

He is not a role model for much for any race, religion, party, gender, leadership(:1rotfl::1rotfl:) or just about anything else.

[Guest]

Obama is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro women's rights, shaves, eats bacon, and drinks beer. After some basic processing, does that sound like a Muslim to you?

Why don't you ask Obama himself, and see what he has to say about it??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

[Guest]

Referring to gays as having a "deviant" lifestyle, and showing hatred and intolerance of Muslims, sure fits the definition of bigot: a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group). And then to call oneself a Christian??? You must have learned a different brand of Christianity than the religion that most in this country practice. Yes, you may call yourself a Christian, but you are certainly a hate filled one.

Perhaps you need to review the definition of the word deviant.


de·vi·ant (dē′vē-ənt)
adj.
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.


Do you disagree that homosexuality differs from the norm?

[Guest]

Obama is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro women's rights, shaves, eats bacon, and drinks beer. After some basic processing, does that sound like a Muslim to you?

It doesn't sound like some of my friends that claim to be Jews either, and they do. I know a lot of Christians that drink, smoke and swear. They are still Christians.

[Guest]

Obama is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro women's rights, shaves, eats bacon, and drinks beer. After some basic processing, does that sound like a Muslim to you?

He also claims to be an American but you couldn't prove it by his actions either.

[Guest]

Referring to gays as having a "deviant" lifestyle, and showing hatred and intolerance of Muslims, sure fits the definition of bigot: a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group). And then to call oneself a Christian??? You must have learned a different brand of Christianity than the religion that most in this country practice. Yes, you may call yourself a Christian, but you are certainly a hate filled one.

You sure make the word "bigot" sound like a compliment. Did that poster that you attacked actually call himself/herself a Christian, or are you making assumptions? You do seem to be good at making assumptions and exaggerating. If you find this question too difficult to answer, I'll understand, because I did notice a hint of desperation in your post.

[Guest]

Why not?

With his clearly demonstrated not following any guidelines, rules, constitution, bill of rights, etc and doing what ever he damn well pleases regardless what everybody either does or is supposed to do.

He is not a role model for much for any race, religion, party, gender, leadership(:1rotfl::1rotfl:) or just about anything else.

I hope you did not pass on your lack of understanding to your children and grandchildren. You are truly clueless.

[Guest]

I hope you did not pass on your lack of understanding to your children and grandchildren. You are truly clueless.

If asked, I tell my grandchildren what the Bible says. If you have a problem with the Bible, take it up with God. If God says it's wrong, I guess I shouldn't second guess HIM.

The Pope does not endorse the gay lifestyle or abortions. He said he forgives, but he NEVER said it was OK.

[Guest]

I hope you did not pass on your lack of understanding to your children and grandchildren. You are truly clueless.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

From the creators of cluslessness

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Guest]

I hope you did not pass on your lack of understanding to your children and grandchildren. You are truly clueless.

What do you call a basement full of liberals? A whine cellar.

[Guest]

What do you call a basement full of liberals? A whine cellar.

Now this is funny.....considering all the whining going on in this forum!!!!

[Guest]

Anyone have a clue, why the pope, a religious leader, plans on talking about "climate change"? Idiotic!!!!

[Guest]

Anyone have a clue, why the pope, a religious leader, plans on talking about "climate change"? Idiotic!!!!

You know, they may be on to something. As crazy and radical as the world has become, it stands to reason that it must be in the air.

[Guest]

You know, they may be on to something. As crazy and radical as the world has become, it stands to reason that it must be in the air.

Didn't Biden claim that the cause of terrorism was global warming?

[Guest]

I know it's hard to admit one is a bigot. The hatred and intolerance one shows towards gays (deviants) and Muslims qualifies you though. If it makes you feel better to call yourself a "partial" hate filled bigot, go for it. Thank goodness, fringe fanatics like you are far outnumbered when it comes time to go to the polls.

Dear Guest:

Please do not confuse ideology with personal affronts. While one can agree that bigots exist you seem to lose sight that one can disagree with an ideology and not be a bigot to do otherwise is a non sequitur.

One poster express it best when that poster said "I am sick of the in your face"attitude. Bill Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell " worked. Having been in the military suspecting someone is gay vis a vis knowing is a big game changer as progressives like to say.

Gong too far is another problem here. Gays and their advocates who are working hard to eliminate gender is problematic. Its like saying that we ought to eliminate race. So let's pretend we have no white, black, brown yellow ,red. Perhaps we can all gravitate toward the Bruce Jenner who feels he is she or that white president for the NAACP that felt she was black. Let's take it further if you are heavy no problem just feel skinny.......

My complete and only point here is that disagreement doesn't make one a bigot. We need to stop the name calling because we can never reach understanding and that is all we can reach because agreement isn't going to happen with this issue anymore that it has with abortion

Personal Best Regards

[Guest]

Anyone have a clue, why the pope, a religious leader, plans on talking about "climate change"? Idiotic!!!!

There's a great irony here ... people who are true believers in the climate change doomsday scenario advocate major reductions of fossil fuels.

They don't understand physics among other things, and certainly not economics. Reducing or eliminating fossil fuel usage would simply condemn millions to bone crushing poverty.

[Guest]

I hope you did not pass on your lack of understanding to your children and grandchildren. You are truly clueless.

I didn't pass on your lack of common sense and morality to my grandchilden. I may not have a clue, but I do know that difference between accepted behavior and deviant behavior. And I don't have to re-write the dictionary to explain it.

How do you explain to your grandchildren the difference between God's design, and mans perversion? How can you explain it to them without telling them that some folks are just abnormal?

[Guest]

And don't forget the 15 yr old Muslim boy who looked like he was building a bomb in school. Can't invite the family of those who died for this country but Muslims, gays, transgenders, socialists, Marxists. Hell yea. Absolutely disgusting

[Guest]

And don't forget the 15 yr old Muslim boy who looked like he was building a bomb in school. Can't invite the family of those who died for this country but Muslims, gays, transgenders, socialists, Marxists. Hell yea. Absolutely disgusting

That Muslim boy's family will probably sue the gov and win millions for false arrest, racial and religious profiling, etc.

[Guest]

And don't forget the 15 yr old Muslim boy who looked like he was building a bomb in school. Can't invite the family of those who died for this country but Muslims, gays, transgenders, socialists, Marxists. Hell yea. Absolutely disgusting

Ah yes, the poor Muslim boy who was so viciously discriminated against because he built a clock ... except it was in a briefcase and most rational people (you excluded) would say ...hey, wonder if that's a bomb?

He apparently set out to fool the credulous and gullible but, let's face it, that's pretty easy to do with guilt ridden liberals who, deep down, hate the evil rotten yadda yadda US with all of its white Euro privilege blah blah

Look at the links

Richard Dawkins: Clock Made by Muslim Boy All Part of a Hoax? (http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/richard-dawkins-clock-muslim-boy/2015/09/22/id/692642/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGit-XltUB4

[Guest]

Returning to the original post... No one mentioned that 15,000 people were invited to the White House lawn which included some gay people. Then the Pope will meet with Obama separately.

Very misleading info from the Right Wing Press as usual.

[Guest]

Right wing? I believe the press releases come from Obama's staff. Do you really think that Obama invited an Atheist to meet the Pope so that he/she could be converted? Is Obama going to suddenly proclaim that he is now a Catholic? He's been everything else, it seems. Just another scheme by Obama to agitate those that oppose his policies.

[Guest]

Ah yes, the poor Muslim boy who was so viciously discriminated against because he built a clock ... except it was in a briefcase and most rational people (you excluded) would say ...hey, wonder if that's a bomb?

He apparently set out to fool the credulous and gullible but, let's face it, that's pretty easy to do with guilt ridden liberals who, deep down, hate the evil rotten yadda yadda US with all of its white Euro privilege blah blah

Look at the links

Richard Dawkins: Clock Made by Muslim Boy All Part of a Hoax? (http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/richard-dawkins-clock-muslim-boy/2015/09/22/id/692642/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGit-XltUB4

And if it was truly a bomb and it went off and many children killed there would be an outcry of why was nothing done to prevent this.

We either subscribe to the facts that if one acts like, looks like, or is suspicious of intent to harm something is done about it. And if you or a loved one (Really open terminology) does not want to be at risk of scrutiny......DON'T DO WHAT THE PROFILE STATES.

Do some of you really think the laws, rules, guidelines should have different applications as prscribed by race, religion, gender (or lack of it) etc?
We know that is what the current administration and it's supporters and lemmings want. The rest of us, the MAJORITY, do not. Look and act like you are a problem, regardless of flavor, you deserve what you get.

How many Americans have been killed by children who are either delivering a bomb or are the bomb?

Cut the party, race, gender, BS....the innocent little boy, like it or not, by appearing to be a threat, intentional or otherwise. No heart on the sleeve or minority or special interest consideration warranted....LIKE IT OR NOT!!

[Guest]

Relative to the OP and the subject of the thread....


"The Vatican last week expressed discomfort over some of the guests who are expected in attendance -- reportedly concerned by the optics that could be created if the pope is photographed with transgender activists, the first openly gay U.S. Episcopal bishop or a nun who will be on the South Lawn for the ceremony on Wednesday morning."

White House Says Vatican's Angst Over Guest List Won't Sour Pope's Visit - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-vaticans-angst-guest-list-sour-popes/story?id=33950384)

[Guest]

Relative to the OP and the subject of the thread....


"The Vatican last week expressed discomfort over some of the guests who are expected in attendance -- reportedly concerned by the optics that could be created if the pope is photographed with transgender activists, the first openly gay U.S. Episcopal bishop or a nun who will be on the South Lawn for the ceremony on Wednesday morning."

White House Says Vatican's Angst Over Guest List Won't Sour Pope's Visit - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-vaticans-angst-guest-list-sour-popes/story?id=33950384)

And Obama is eating this up. He is either extremely stupid, or evilly scheming. Which is it?

[Guest]

Obama is a disgrace to America, and it's about time that liberals quit making excuses for his terrible performance.

[Guest]

Relative to the OP and the subject of the thread....


"The Vatican last week expressed discomfort over some of the guests who are expected in attendance -- reportedly concerned by the optics that could be created if the pope is photographed with transgender activists, the first openly gay U.S. Episcopal bishop or a nun who will be on the South Lawn for the ceremony on Wednesday morning."

White House Says Vatican's Angst Over Guest List Won't Sour Pope's Visit - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-vaticans-angst-guest-list-sour-popes/story?id=33950384)

Obama, once again being Obama, shoots the middle finger to most of us by turning the Pope's visit into the Star Wars bar scene with his guest list

[Guest]

Obama, once again being Obama, shoots the middle finger to most of us by turning the Pope's visit into the Star Wars bar scene with his guest list

He forgot to put up the sign

Yo PaPa welcome to my world!