Waiting for the tee to clear...

[fred53]

or "Losing your cool"....

it is recommended that when there is a group on the tee that you wait till it's clear before moving up...

the reasons are a few: so that you don't make noise while the group on the tee is hitting...to avoid crowding the tee

now I had a run-in with someone who mistakenly thinks that coming to the tee...any tee...while his group is on them is a breach in etiquette....he was/is misinformed...the only etiquette breach is that while approaching the tee your cart or the occupants are making noise and once get there keep talking even while people are hitting...

I was walking...waited till the group(as a whole)was moving to the forward most tee and walked up to the gold tee(quietly)...once the debarked the cart I stood stock still and waited while they hit...

the person who didn't like me there told me to leave and started in on a rant about it being improper....he is/was wrong...I asked him if this was an etiquette issue...he yelled that it was...now this is the same person who drives his cart within a few feet of the greens and tees....hits multiple tee shots from the black tees(no he rarely came close to the green)and yelled at me(aren't there others on the course this might be bothering?)...he was choosing which etiquette suggestions to consider worth his time...

summation: if you're going to lose it on the course try and make sure that you're in the right...to those who will inevitably agree with this curmudgeon...many of the etiquette suggestions here at the villages are put in place because of people who are clueless as to what not to do on the course...they are in no way a reflection of etiquette in the rules of golf which rely on common sense and consideration...

[Bay Kid]

"The best revenge is living well!" Enjoy because they are miserable.

[tomwed]

or "Losing your cool"....
...many of the etiquette suggestions here at the villages are put in place because of people who are clueless as to what not to do on the course...
I agree. Many beginners don't like the pressure of more eyes watching them tee off.

And I will stay back unless there is a gap in front of the group. Than I like to move up quietly as a way of sending a message they need to close the gap. It's passive aggressive etiquette.

[DonH57]

What was the guy doing hitting multiple tee shots, shooting for his own best ball? I would think having two foursomes on a tee box would be crowded and someone could get hurt. I've seen foursomes standing on a tee box taking practice swings at a tee'd ball when another group are on a green.

[golfing eagles]

What was the guy doing hitting multiple tee shots, shooting for his own best ball? I would think having two foursomes on a tee box would be crowded and someone could get hurt. I've seen foursomes standing on a tee box taking practice swings at a tee'd ball when another group are on a green.

I think the OP was stating that this guy was irate just because they came within 30 yds of the tee box, not that they were standing up on the tee box with them, in which case he would have a legitimate complaint

[justjim]

OP, I assume you were a single in this situation and the guy doing the "hollering" was in a foursome. A single (according to the rules of golf) has no status. However, if the guy was hitting two balls off the tee in front of you and slowing play up he was definitely in the wrong.

If I. Felt like a confrontation, I would say something regarding hitting two balls off the tee, if not, I would find me a shade tree and enjoy the scenery!

[TrudyM]

I am married to the nicest guy on earth. That said he came in after his round yesterday a little miffed. When playing by himself he scores much lower as his concentration is better with out the social side. He uses these rare times (which he looks forward to) to really play serious. Yesterday while playing alone he felt like he was being pushed by the group behind. He could only move as fast as the group in front (a foursome) allowed and wished the group behind would have given him some breathing room. His feeling was that their tee time was two slots ahead of theirs and also set to allow for a foursome to play at his t time and that surely they could wait a few minutes and stay in their own timing schedule which would have given him some breathing room even with the very slow play of the group ahead of him. He didn't say anything to them but probably nicely should have asked if they would back off I think. He by the way usually plays a pretty fast round.

[DonH57]

I think the OP was stating that this guy was irate just because they came within 30 yds of the tee box, not that they were standing up on the tee box with them, in which case he would have a legitimate complaint

I see what you mean after reading it again. I don't think the group I normally play with ever gets near another group teeing off. It's hard to avoid a large audience on the very first hole since it's close to everything and you can feel the 20 or so eyeballs staring at you.:D

[Bonny]

I'm one of those, just relax and enjoy.
If there are people in front of us teeing off at the forward tee and we're going to hit from the middle tee, we hang back and wait for them to tee off. When they leave the tee box, we move to the middle tee. What's the hurry ? You can't tee off until they finish the hole. There is plenty of time to get set up and ready to tee off.

[DonH57]

I am married to the nicest guy on earth. That said he came in after his round yesterday a little miffed. When playing by himself he scores much lower as his concentration is better with out the social side. He uses these rare times (which he looks forward to) to really play serious. Yesterday while playing alone he felt like he was being pushed by the group behind. He could only move as fast as the group in front (a foursome) allowed and wished the group behind would have given him some breathing room. His feeling was that their tee time was set to allow for a foursome to play at his t time and that surely they could wait a few minutes and stay in their own timing schedule which would have given him some breathing room. He didn't say anything to them but probably nicely should have asked if they would back off I think. He by the way played a really fast round.

I understand how that feels sometimes. It took me a while but I learned to only concentrate on staying up with the group in front of me and ignoring the ones behind me. It helped my playing.

[fred53]

OP, I assume you were a single in this situation and the guy doing the "hollering" was in a foursome. A single (according to the rules of golf) has no status. However, if the guy was hitting two balls off the tee in front of you and slowing play up he was definitely in the wrong.

If I. Felt like a confrontation, I would say something regarding hitting two balls off the tee, if not, I would find me a shade tree and enjoy the scenery!

I was with three other people in carts...as I said I was walking so having "status" is not the issue...as for "status" that applies when you are playing the course and as a single you have no status to play through a foursome on the course...it has absolutely nothing to do with standing well away from a group hitting from the forward tee...no shade tree as I would have gladly taken refuge...but I was not looking for a confrontation and did nothing wrong by the rules of golf or etiquette of golf...I've played from Japan to Scotland and most in between...you are always allowed to approach the next tee when others are present as long as you don't interfere with their tee shots, keep still and quiet...I followed all these etiquette rules...he was not holding up play in my opinion, but likely thought I thought he was...foolish man was completely clueless unfortunately that happens often when you have the situation we have here...which is great by the way...

[tomwed]

Do you ever see anyone on an exec hit a provisional, call a ball unplayable and know their options, drop a ball from shoulder length, walk back on a lost ball, or hit an embedded lie?
This is not that kind of golf community.

When someone offers to keep my score I tell them I don't keep score. And when they ask why not? I tell them if you're not going to count them all, why count any? That's funny to a seasoned golfer.

I agree. It is great here when you don't take golf [or much of anything else] too seriously.

[TheVillageChicken]

OP, I assume you were a single in this situation and the guy doing the "hollering" was in a foursome. A single (according to the rules of golf) has no status. However, if the guy was hitting two balls off the tee in front of you and slowing play up he was definitely in the wrong.

If I. Felt like a confrontation, I would say something regarding hitting two balls off the tee, if not, I would find me a shade tree and enjoy the scenery!


That used to be true, but as of 2004, the reference was removed from the Etiquette Section of The Rules of Golf.

[Polar Bear]

Just a quick FYI...

Do Singles Have the Right to Play Through? (http://golf.about.com/od/golfetiquette/f/singlespriority.htm)

[villages07]

To the basic question the OP had (and ignoring the boorish behavior by the man he encountered).... On the exec courses I know a lot of people who feel pressured and uncomfortable when the group behind them pulls up to the tee boxes before their group has finished teeing off. I personally prefer that the group hangs back to a safe spot before the black tees until our group finishes teeing off. Space, quiet, prying eyes, etc... To me it is an etiquette issue. I think more women, especially newer golfers, are bothered by this than perhaps experienced male golfers. JMHO of course.

[golfing eagles]

To the basic question the OP had (and ignoring the boorish behavior by the man he encountered).... On the exec courses I know a lot of people who feel pressured and uncomfortable when the group behind them pulls up to the tee boxes before their group has finished teeing off. I personally prefer that the group hangs back to a safe spot before the black tees until our group finishes teeing off. Space, quiet, prying eyes, etc... To me it is an etiquette issue. I think more women, especially newer golfers, are bothered by this than perhaps experienced male golfers. JMHO of course.

I'm sorry, I just don't get it. First of all , it's not a "safety" issue until you get within 5 feet of a golfer swinging a club. The etiquette is pretty simple---don't move or make noise while another golfer is hitting. As far as approaching a tee while everyone is just waiting anyway---not etiquette rule there at all. For those who don't want
to be "watched", you're probably getting "watched" by the group behind whether they are 10 or 30 yards away. Get over it. Are you afraid they will ridicule you?--No good golfer does that, so those who would aren't so good themselves, they just think they are. (BTW, they are probably the same golfers who are taking 2 shots, putting out 2 footers, scoring 8's and 9's on a hole and talking non-stop) Remember, no one has shot under par their first time playing (except maybe Tiger). It took Jack Nicklaus 3 years to break 70, and that was with daily play and practice and lessons from Jack Grout as a teenager---if you are a beginner, play and enjoy the game, obey the etiquette and ready golf yourself, and don't worry about the guy behind you

[tomwed]

Just a quick FYI...

Do Singles Have the Right to Play Through? (http://golf.about.com/od/golfetiquette/f/singlespriority.htm)
"In the "Pace of Play" section: "It is a group's responsibility to keep up with the group in front. If it loses a clear hole and it is delaying the group behind, it should invite the group behind to play through, irrespective of the number of players in that group." "


If the group in front of you is a hole behind, in The Villages the last thing you want to do is to invite the group behind to play through.

In The Villages I would suggest the "Pace of Play" section be written as follows:
If the group in front of you is a hole ahead, pick up the ball and drop it on the green and continue from there. no penalty, just to keep the group moving

The tees will never bottleneck and as golfers improve they will enjoy the game without pressure.

In the "Priority on the Course" section: "Unless otherwise determined by the Committee, priority on the course is determined by a group's pace of play. Any group playing a whole round is entitled to pass a group playing a shorter round. The term 'group' includes a single player."

On a champ course, my pace of play rule would be----If you catch up with the group ahead and no one is ahead of them. Go around them and skip the hole. This will also help everyone behind you.

[Bogie Shooter]

Seems rather simple ..........wait till the group ahead has left the tee, to move to the tee.

[Callaway Guy]

I'm sorry, I just don't get it. First of all , it's not a "safety" issue until you get within 5 feet of a golfer swinging a club. The etiquette is pretty simple---don't move or make noise while another golfer is hitting. As far as approaching a tee while everyone is just waiting anyway---not etiquette rule there at all. For those who don't want
to be "watched", you're probably getting "watched" by the group behind whether they are 10 or 30 yards away. Get over it. Are you afraid they will ridicule you?--No good golfer does that, so those who would aren't so good themselves, they just think they are. (BTW, they are probably the same golfers who are taking 2 shots, putting out 2 footers, scoring 8's and 9's on a hole and talking non-stop) Remember, no one has shot under par their first time playing (except maybe Tiger). It took Jack Nicklaus 3 years to break 70, and that was with daily play and practice and lessons from Jack Grout as a teenager---if you are a beginner, play and enjoy the game, obey the etiquette and ready golf yourself, and don't worry about the guy behind you

:eclipsee_gold_cup: :mademyday: they're also known as the "entitled ones". They are why I rarely play the execs; more a**es play the free courses rather than paying to play the championships. I've paid my dues with having to deal with idiots and hostile people; I can walk away from them now! 😉

[golfing eagles]

:eclipsee_gold_cup: :mademyday: they're also known as the "entitled ones". They are why I rarely play the execs; more a**es play the free courses rather than paying to play the championships. I've paid my dues with having to deal with idiots and hostile people; I can walk away from them now! 😉

I couldn't agree more. I played a couple execs last April with a neighbor, but other than that I think the last time was when I was 11. So normally, I wouldn't really care what goes on there. I did get a bit unlucky and had to have neurosurgery on my neck 3 weeks ago and so far have only 20% use of my left arm, which might make golf a bit difficult, so I may have more execs in my future than I was planning on, assuming I can swing at all. As far as the idiots and hostile golfers go, I grew up playing public courses on Long Island, so I think I can handle them