I will not go pink

[looneycat]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

[graciegirl]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%



Give to all of them. When you are diagnosed with any of them you are really scared.

[looneycat]

Give to all of them. When you are diagnosed with any of them you are really scared.

when I give, and I do, I give to cancer research

[kansasr]

While I don't know the source of your data, I can tell you that, among women, breast cancer is the second leading cause of death, exceeded only by lung cancer and greater than colorectal cancer. (US Cancer Statistics Working Group).

As the second leading cause of death among women, I for one have no trouble wearing pink to support this cause.

[Villager Joyce]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

If you don't wish to support breast cancer, that is your right. I don't understand your need to come on TOTV and spew your hatred. A large percentage of tbe population has or had breast cancer or a family member has or was lost to breast cancer. It has nothing to do with boobs. It has to do with cancer. I'm trying to keep this civil enough so the admin don't remove it. Just know what I think would not pass mustard.

[Lovey2]

YIKES! to the person diagnosed, and their families, any cancer can be, and often is, deadly. You have a right to not play, but it's not so cool to make light of an awful disease that has killed so many, and usually disfigured those that have lived thru it. I don't think it is a boob "obsession". Methinks the boob issue is not where you lay it.

[jnieman]

I don't see the need to post those statistics on this board.

[justjim]

I was under the impression that wearing pink on Fridays during October was just showing support for an overall cancer cure. Oh well, I will wear pink anyway for whatever........

[Jima64]

Pleast remember that breast cancer is also a male problem. It is not a "boob" thing!

[Jima64]

While I don't know the source of your data, I can tell you that, among women, breast cancer is the second leading cause of death, exceeded only by lung cancer and greater than colorectal cancer. (US Cancer Statistics Working Group).

As the second leading cause of death among women, I for one have no trouble wearing pink to support this cause.

I hope the poster of the statistics realizes that by hacving these "popular events" women are sometimes fortunate to detect the cancer early enough to treat and survive it. Sometimes I wonder why a person would have a problem with another persons efforts to help people. Again thanks for your posting.

[looneycat]

so that is all you haters take away from my post. I guess your blind knee jerk reactions are stronger than your reading skills. make light? preclude other cancers? where do you get this crap. kansar I don't know where you get your stats but mine ARE accurate. I feel sorry for anyone who has cancer but would love to see the majority of the money donated going towards the most lethal forms and breast cancer, thanks to past donations, is not even close. breast cancer is most lethal when it has spread and become one of the other forms...and no, money given to breast cancer usually stays with it.According to to american cancer society ther were 40,000 deaths in 2014 from breast cancer...there were 163,000 deaths from respiratory cancer and 148,000 digestive system cancer.

[looneycat]

While I don't know the source of your data, I can tell you that, among women, breast cancer is the second leading cause of death, exceeded only by lung cancer and greater than colorectal cancer. (US Cancer Statistics Working Group).

As the second leading cause of death among women, I for one have no trouble wearing pink to support this cause.

I doubt their numbers are for mortality, you are quoting incidence not mortality, only 10.8% of breast cancer cases cause death. read with your brain not just your eyes. I say this afterreading the uscwg stats at the cdc website.

[looneycat]

If you don't wish to support breast cancer, that is your right. I don't understand your need to come on TOTV and spew your hatred. A large percentage of tbe population has or had breast cancer or a family member has or was lost to breast cancer. It has nothing to do with boobs. It has to do with cancer. I'm trying to keep this civil enough so the admin don't remove it. Just know what I think would not pass mustard.

when the daily rags front page is all about pink ribbons I felt it necessary to post, not that that is your business. the only hate here is yours. I did not say I don't support finding a cure for cancer quite the contrary, I said we need to spend more of the money on other forms, and to those who aren't so mean spirited, that would resolve quite a few of the breast cancer mortalities since those often are due to the cancer morphing into other forms and spreading. and yes I say boobs because any honest man will tell you that is why they support it as well, because its easy if it is of interest to them...I did say honest man, and yes men die of it too 400 of the 40,430 deaths in 2014 were men.

[fred53]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

is certainly appropriate...don't go pink...who cares?

[looneycat]

YIKES! to the person diagnosed, and their families, any cancer can be, and often is, deadly. You have a right to not play, but it's not so cool to make light of an awful disease that has killed so many, and usually disfigured those that have lived thru it. I don't think it is a boob "obsession". Methinks the boob issue is not where you lay it.

make light by showing how many people actually die? you call that making light?? where did I say any of what you inferred? that's pretty flawed thinking that just because the word boob was used in the place of breasts it means I take this lightly? what i see is someone quick to attack. shame on you.

[looneycat]

Pleast remember that breast cancer is also a male problem. It is not a "boob" thing!

so you don't have breasts? please explain. where did I say it was not a male issue? .01 of the breast cancer deaths are male.

[Lovey2]

make light by showing how many people actually die? you call that making light?? where did I say any of what you inferred? that's pretty flawed thinking that just because the word boob was used in the place of breasts it means I take this lightly? what i see is someone quick to attack. shame on you.

I don't wanna fight with you. Apparently I'm not the only one that "misread" your post. YOU said it was a boob obsession, and most recently said most men only support it because its boobs. The word you used doesn't matter...boob, breast, tata...whatever, YOU called it an obsession. I know several men who's wives have had their breasts removed and could not give a damn about the "breast", it's their wife they are concerned with. Again, I think YOU have the boob issue. And I return: Shame on you!

[looneycat]

I don't wanna fight with you. Apparently I'm not the only one that "misread" your post. YOU said it was a boob obsession, and most recently said most men only support it because its boobs. The word you used doesn't matter...boob, breast, tata...whatever, YOU called it an obsession. I know several men who's wives have had their breasts removed and could not give a damn about the "breast", it's their wife they are concerned with. Again, I think YOU have the boob issue. And I return: Shame on you!

sigh! again I repeat what is it about boob obsession that means any of the things you have assumed? and yes I said men get behind it because they like breasts, so? it is true. it means it is something they can get behind because they are familiar with breasts. if you called it vagina cancer they would be squeamish to be involved. I won't argue that point it takes honesty to admit it and those here that would deny it do so only to argue.And if you say that those same men whose wives had to go through the pain and anguish associated with breast cancer never were attracted by or stimulated by their wives breasts you are living in fantasyland.I stand by my statements.

[outlaw]

What color goes with prostate cancer month?

[Lovey2]

sigh! again I repeat what is it about boob obsession that means any of the things you have assumed? and yes I said men get behind it because they like breasts, so? it is true. it means it is something they can get behind because they are familiar with breasts. if you called it vagina cancer they would be squeamish to be involved. I won't argue that point it takes honesty to admit it and those here that would deny it do so only to argue.And if you say that those same men whose wives had to go through the pain and anguish associated with breast cancer never were attracted by or stimulated by their wives breasts you are living in fantasyland.I stand by my statements.

You have sexualized breast cancer. I have no words for that. Suffice it to say, I am shocked and feel badly for you. I can't imagine your outlook on so many other issues if this is how you look at breast cancer. Clearly we will never agree, so stand by your statements, it's your right, and I will bow out of this thread. I sincerely hope this never hits home for you or any of yours.

[graciegirl]

so you don't have breasts? please explain. where did I say it was not a male issue? .01 of the breast cancer deaths are male.



I know you mean well. I think I understand what you are saying.


When cancer strikes it devastates anyone associated with it. So breast cancer badly harms men who love women who get it and lung cancer tears apart the lives of family members who don't have it. Cancer SUCKS. All kinds.


It is all as scary as hell. It all can kill and does kill and anyone dealing with the diagnosis, either hearing they have it or someone they love has it are rendered frightened to death and hopeless for awhile. Some cancers almost always kill and others kill too often. I don't think we should be arguing about where our money goes.


Just give your support and prayers to all affected and your money to what ever one feels right for you. It all will help. Someone.


Sending my caring thoughts to anyone fighting cancer right now and to the people who love them. Helene and I are survivors. 13 people in my family have survived cancer.

[looneycat]

is certainly appropriate...don't go pink...who cares?

as yours is unimaginative. and that is correct if you don't care that is your prerogative.

[Villager Joyce]

Gracie, you proved what a good person you are by trying to explain the actions of a lunatic, I mean looneycat. Unfortunately LCs responses proved over and over the reality that the responding posters did not misread the OP.

[looneycat]

I know you mean well. I think I understand what you are saying.


Sending my caring thoughts to anyone fighting cancer right now and to the people who love them. Helene and I are survivors. 13 people in my family have survived cancer.

what I offered was perspective. what I found, astonishingly, was people affronted because their cancer issue was far from the most deadly. I did not and would never say that any form of cancer is not an awful experience. I have lost several female relatives to cancer, my sister has had breast cancer so yes I'm very familiar with the anxiety and fear it produces.

[Barefoot]

Nevermind.

[jscottb]

If you don't wish to support breast cancer, that is your right. I don't understand your need to come on TOTV and spew your hatred. A large percentage of tbe population has or had breast cancer or a family member has or was lost to breast cancer. It has nothing to do with boobs. It has to do with cancer. I'm trying to keep this civil enough so the admin don't remove it. Just know what I think would not pass mustard.

It's not hate, It's facts.

[Retiring]

Pleast remember that breast cancer is also a male problem. It is not a "boob" thing!

I lost a good friend to breast cancer. He was 49 years old. He had been in remission for about 5 yrs, that horrible thing came back and took him. About 400-500 men die each year of breast cancer. Sounds like a small number, until you’re one of them. RIP EJ.

[redwitch]

LC, I do understand the point you're trying to make. My father died from bladder cancer, my mother from a brain tumor, my brother had been diagnosed with stomach cancer although he died in a diving accident shortly after his diagnosis, I somehow survived melanoma. Any cancer diagnosis is devastating.

I agree that more money needs to be spent on other cancers. However, if breast cancer had not come to the public's attention, it would still be one of the deadliest cancers like it was in the fifties and sixties. Public awareness has made a huge difference. Little by little, other cancers are coming into the limelight. Hopefully, they will reach the low statistics that breast cancer has today. In the meantime, I'll wear my pink if, for no other reason, than to celebrate the declining numbers for breast cancer deaths. But I'll donate to ACS for cancer research rather than for a specific form of cancer.

[manaboutown]

LC, I do understand the point you're trying to make. My father died from bladder cancer, my mother from a brain tumor, my brother had been diagnosed with stomach cancer although he died in a diving accident shortly after his diagnosis, I somehow survived melanoma. Any cancer diagnosis is devastating.

I agree that more money needs to be spent on other cancers. However, if breast cancer had not come to the public's attention, it would still be one of the deadliest cancers like it was in the fifties and sixties. Public awareness has made a huge difference. Little by little, other cancers are coming into the limelight. Hopefully, they will reach the low statistics that breast cancer has today. In the meantime, I'll wear my pink if, for no other reason, than to celebrate the declining numbers for breast cancer deaths. But I'll donate to ACS for cancer research rather than for a specific form of cancer.

:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Until almost three years ago I had not really given any type of cancer much thought. My parents (and my father smoked for 80 years!), aunts, uncles and cousins had not, to my knowledge, suffered any cancers although some friends had. Then my daughter developed stage IV GBM, the brain cancer that killed Ted Kennedy. So far so good but some of the patients we have gotten to know in a monthly support group have passed away. Several of them had initially been hit by breast or other cancers which "migrated" and presented as brain tumors.

We do the brain tumor walks and contribute to that cause.

One just really never knows. I got hit with an early stage melanoma less than a year ago, had a Mohs procedure, and so far so good.

Much of today's cancer research which seems promising is directed toward developing immune system stimulation. Many times research can lead to different results than those sought. Corning glass and Viagra are two such examples. One just never knows. I support research for ALL cancers.

[Loudoll]

[QUOTE=looneycat;1122579]while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

It makes me sad to see in the oncologist's office all the pink ribbons, the fundraiser posters, upcoming events, etc. while my husband waits for his grueling prostate cancer treatment there. Only breast cancer matters.

[asianthree]

Op wear pink or not. Glad you are not on any three day walk to raise money. Pink for as far as you can see. There has been cancer in our family. I :BigApplause: for those who walk the walk.

[Happinow]

I have a sister who didn't survive cancer.....I have made a beautiful breast cancer wreath in her honor. I'm happy to make one for anyone who would like to honor someone who has survived or who have lost, or just to show support.

[looneycat]

LC, I do understand the point you're trying to make. My father died from bladder cancer, my mother from a brain tumor, my brother had been diagnosed with stomach cancer although he died in a diving accident shortly after his diagnosis, I somehow survived melanoma. Any cancer diagnosis is devastating.

I agree that more money needs to be spent on other cancers. However, if breast cancer had not come to the public's attention, it would still be one of the deadliest cancers like it was in the fifties and sixties. Public awareness has made a huge difference. Little by little, other cancers are coming into the limelight. Hopefully, they will reach the low statistics that breast cancer has today. In the meantime, I'll wear my pink if, for no other reason, than to celebrate the declining numbers for breast cancer deaths. But I'll donate to ACS for cancer research rather than for a specific form of cancer.
:agree:

[looneycat]

Op wear pink or not. Glad you are not on any three day walk to raise money. Pink for as far as you can see. There has been cancer in our family. I :BigApplause: for those who walk the walk.

as do I, for me it is not my cause specifically. I do not in any way denigrate anyone's dedication to their cause

[golf2140]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

Wow, do you feel better. I will support Pink because it supports cancer research

[Cedwards38]

I have a wife and two daughters!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Nothing wrong with supporting breast cancer research or any type of cancer research for that matter. I have a young niece who is now battling breast cancer and it's a horrible ordeal.

It is a bit perplexing however, how so much public attention is given to breast cancer and ovarian cancer when the number one killer of women is heart disease, causing 1 in 3 deaths each year. That’s approximately one woman every minute!

I guess the people behind the breast cancer campaign have just done a better public relations job.

[wudda1955]

I guess the people behind the breast cancer campaign have just done a better public relations job.

Exactly. This explains why breast cancer is in the spotlight and other types are not.

[RickeyD]

Lung cancer is number three on this list. My wife had lung cancer 5 years ago. She has never smoked. There is a stigma associated with lung cancer in that those afflicted did it to themselves. My wife did nothing to harm her lungs. There is an entire wing dedicated to breast cancer at Stonybrook University hospital in NY. The oncology wing serves everyone else. It's a political football as to which disease is the disease of the decade. It use to be polio, and MS. Now its breast cancer. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. The other wheels simply get f***ed.

[outlaw]

Lung cancer is number three on this list. My wife had lung cancer 5 years ago. She has never smoked. There is a stigma associated with lung cancer in that those afflicted did it to themselves. My wife did nothing to harm her lungs. There is an entire wing dedicated to breast cancer at Stonybrook University hospital in NY. The oncology wing serves everyone else. It's a political football as to which disease is the disease of the decade. It use to be polio, and MS. Now its breast cancer. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. The other wheels simply get f***ed.

I notice there seems to be more lung cancers going on; non-smoking related. What are the doctors telling you the probable causes are?

[RickeyD]

I notice there seems to be more lung cancers going on; non-smoking related. What are the doctors telling you the probable causes are?


They don't know because there is not enough research. The money flows elsewhere.

[xNYer]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

This misstates the frequency of the various cancers. Breast and prostate cancers are far more prevalent than pancreatic cancer. The considerable advancement in treatments of the more frequently diagnosed cancers has caused a significant reduction in the five year death rate.

[NotFromAroundHere]

This misstates the frequency of the various cancers. Breast and prostate cancers are far more prevalent than pancreatic cancer. The considerable advancement in treatments of the more frequently diagnosed cancers has caused a significant reduction in the five year death rate.

Exactly. For many of the higher mortality cancers on this list, breast cancer has more deaths then the others even have diagnoses.

[NotFromAroundHere]

breast cancer is most lethal when it has spread and become one of the other forms...

So what you're saying is - breast cancer awareness, which is certainly increased by all of the pink events, helps to reduce the mortality from breast cancer and other types of cancer.

[goodtimesintv]

If you feel slighted with other types of cancer, then DO what the women did to raise awareness and the research monies.

While men could have been campaigning to raise awareness and research monies for prostate cancer, they--at younger ages than prostate cancer years--have seemed to be far more focused on Viagra and the other superficial drugs. That is stupid.

[looneycat]

This misstates the frequency of the various cancers. Breast and prostate cancers are far more prevalent than pancreatic cancer. The considerable advancement in treatments of the more frequently diagnosed cancers has caused a significant reduction in the five year death rate.

it does not show frequency at all just the percent of those who die, it states exactly what it claims to. the incidence of cancer is roughly 235,000/yr of whom the 5 year mortality rate is 40,000. the incidence of pancreatic cancer is about 41,000/yr of whom 39,500 die in 5 years.....neither is a good outcome

[looneycat]

If you feel slighted with other types of cancer, then DO what the women did to raise awareness and the research monies.

While men could have been campaigning to raise awareness and research monies for prostate cancer, they--at younger ages than prostate cancer years--have seemed to be far more focused on Viagra and the other superficial drugs. That is stupid.

they have but nobody created a campaign for them that appealed to women as well. no pink ribbons or cute clothes and hats and bags to buy in pink for a disease that almost always kills. to say that men didn't campaign because they were too busy with viagra is just obscene.

[looneycat]

So what you're saying is - breast cancer awareness, which is certainly increased by all of the pink events, helps to reduce the mortality from breast cancer and other types of cancer.

really? at which pink event were there other types of cancer survivors, how were they highlighted at these events?

[looneycat]

[QUOTE=looneycat;1122579]while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

It makes me sad to see in the oncologist's office all the pink ribbons, the fundraiser posters, upcoming events, etc. while my husband waits for his grueling prostate cancer treatment there. Only breast cancer matters.

I hope with all my heart that your husband goes into total remission. I am sorry you have to experience the empty feeling one gets from feeling their issue doesn't get the attention it needs to achieve better results.

[Bonny]

really? at which pink event were there other types of cancer survivors, how were they highlighted at these events?
I'm a cancer survivor. Not breast cancer, but I'll still wear the pink !! It definitely helps all with cancer. Most raise money for cancer research, not just breast cancer.

[outlaw]

If you feel slighted with other types of cancer, then DO what the women did to raise awareness and the research monies.

While men could have been campaigning to raise awareness and research monies for prostate cancer, they--at younger ages than prostate cancer years--have seemed to be far more focused on Viagra and the other superficial drugs. That is stupid.

Hey, it's how you live, not how long you live...that's why, thanks to men, we have made great strides in HDTV and sports broadcasting.

[graciegirl]

Hey, it's how you live, not how long you live...that's why, thanks to men, we have made great strides in HDTV and sports broadcasting.



Sometimes I am just amazed. Just amazed at the things people write. I know they don't mean them.

[Gerald]

I support the breast cancer movement, not because of the breasts but because it is like all cancers a disease to cure. It's terrible effect on the person. If you don't that is your right.

[outlaw]

Sometimes I am just amazed. Just amazed at the things people write. I know they don't mean them.

You must be new to forums.

[graciegirl]

You must be new to forums.



When the subject is cancer...that about does it for establishing that we are now in serious territory. The only people who are allowed to joke about it, are those who have had it.


Because it is never a light subject and rarely discussed with sports broadcasting.

[l2ridehd]

There is a reason why breast cancer is down to a 10% 5 year survival rate and it's because of all the awareness that pink has created. So lots more early diagnosis because of education, more research into cures, and more knowledge exchanged to identify the correct treatment regiment to follow for those who have this disease.

Other cancers could certainly benefit if the same awareness model was followed. Any cancer cure or improvement in survival rate is good for all of us. And finding cures for any help find cures and add funds and resources to those that still need cures found. So support it and others, it will all help.

[JoMar]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

An example of statistics used to skew opinion that comes from ignorance or laziness to understand what is under the statistics. Either way, not very constructive or informative.

[lambchop285]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%
i find this offensive. If you were diagnosed with ANY cancer you would hope for the support of your friends and neighbors... and I dont this TOTV is a proper place to voice your anger....

[FosterMomma]

If your statistics are correct, perhaps the reason Breast Cancer is in the lower ranks is precisely because of the money raised by these events and the awareness they garner. It takes research money to beat this terrible disease.

And if there's a colour and day for any of the other cancers, I would happily support them as well.

[jgreen12]

Click on the links below to find the COMPLETE FACTS. They are GOV. STATISTICS FOR WOMEN, MEN, AND GENERAL.

Common Cancer Types - National Cancer Institute (http://www.cancer.gov/types/common-cancers)

CDC - Cancer Statistics - Women (http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/data/women.htm)

CDC - Cancer Statistics - Men (http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/data/men.htm)

[Judy n Ron]

Wife best friend had breast cancer and survived. However it metastized to her lungs then ultimately her brain, which are in your top 2 list. Nuff said.

[outlaw]

When the subject is cancer...that about does it for establishing that we are now in serious territory. The only people who are allowed to joke about it, are those who have had it.


Because it is never a light subject and rarely discussed with sports broadcasting.

I wasn't joking about cancer. I was joking about men and their priorities. But why am I wasting time trying to explain anything to you? Bless your heart, and have a nice day!

[Villager Joyce]

I wasn't joking about cancer. I was joking about men and their priorities. But why am I wasting time trying to explain anything to you? Bless your heart, and have a nice day!

The best defense is a good offense.

[FosterMomma]

I guess I don't see this as an "either/or" issue. Both my parents died of cancer. I have had it as has my 30 year old daughter (neither one breast cancer) but I will wear pink to support all the warrior women in my life, just as I would wear a daffodil or red to support the heart disease that plagues my husband and so many others. I find the negative posts to be astonishingly without compassion or generosity. Surely we can all imagine that research and cure for one cancer would serve to assist in finding cures for them all.

[Tea42]

Why is there a problem supporting this cause. It takes so little effort. If it motevates one person to be tested and it turns out they have cancer, then this support has worked. The reason the "events" are so popular is because so many people work hard to promote awareness and we shouldn't have a problem with their efforts as Jima64 stated.

If we had more "events" for the other cancers I am sure The Villages would support them. In my former life, people went door to door collecting for causes. I didn't slam the door on them.

However, I respect your opinion.

[outlaw]

Why is there a problem supporting this cause. It takes so little effort. If it motevates one person to be tested and it turns out they have cancer, then this support has worked. The reason the "events" are so popular is because so many people work hard to promote awareness and we shouldn't have a problem with their efforts as Jima64 stated.

If we had more "events" for the other cancers I am sure The Villages would support them. In my former life, people went door to door collecting for causes. I didn't slam the door on them.

However, I respect your opinion.

I think there are a lot of good causes and a lot of good intentions. But there are soooooo many now, that many people have become numb to all causes. Not judging one way or the other. Just saying that's the way it is.

[CFrance]

An example of statistics used to skew opinion that comes from ignorance or laziness to understand what is under the statistics. Either way, not very constructive or informative.
I'm late telling you how good I think your response was.:BigApplause:

[BradnKathy]

I've been making the same point for years but you got to hand it to the ladies, what a PR campaign.

BTW has anyone looked at what the National Breast Cancer Foundation, Inc leadership gets paid. Not bad for "NON PROFIT".

[tommymc]

I support all ribbon colors!!!! I have Multiple Sclerosis (M/S) so lets add ORANGE to the list of colors not to wear !.!.....

[AnnieMc]

Bad info. Many of the "Pink" events send proceeds to the American Cancer Society. Not just for Breast Cancer.

[Linda Ann]

For some reason the writer thinks the derogatory term "boobs" is acceptable. OK, whatever. I believe my breast, brains, ovaries, colon, skin etc. are all important parts of my body. Cancer in any part of my body can kill me.
Some people give to different causes due to the loss of a loved one. You are free to give or not give to whoever you choose. Your cause may not be mine and mine may not be yours. So be it.
The important thing is that people give to research if they choose to do so. Without research we would not have the simplest or complex ways to combat illnesses. If person takes an aspirin or has an artificial knee replacement it is because someone financed that research. Think of all the medications and health services that has helped you throughout your life and silently thank those who made it possible.

[bdorman]

The percentages are meaningless without "number of people" figures.

One percentage might be 98% but only effects 100 people, while another percentage is only 10% but effects 10,000 people.

[Villager Joyce]

For some reason the writer thinks the derogatory term "boobs" is acceptable. OK, whatever. I believe my breast, brains, ovaries, colon, skin etc. are all important parts of my body. Cancer in any part of my body can kill me.
Some people give to different causes due to the loss of a loved one. You are free to give or not give to whoever you choose. Your cause may not be mine and mine may not be yours. So be it.
The important thing is that people give to research if they choose to do so. Without research we would not have the simplest or complex ways to combat illnesses. If person takes an aspirin or has an artificial knee replacement it is because someone financed that research. Think of all the medications and health services that has helped you throughout your life and silently thank those who made it possible.

I agree with everything you say except...thank them LOUDLY.

[pauld315]

Bad info. Many of the "Pink" events send proceeds to the American Cancer Society. Not just for Breast Cancer.

I am not sure about that. If you take a look at the Komen site which is arguably the largest non profit raising money for breast cancer, the money they raise goes toward breast cancer related expenses or administration.

Regardless, the women have done a fantastic job with PR to raise money for this one specific form of cancer. Granted, at times, the research for breast cancer can be used with other forms of cancer. However, it would be nice if more of the money raised could be donated to organizations trying to fight all types of cancer.

I say this having a wife who has benefited tremendously over the past 20 years of fighting this disease successfully through research that was done with money earmarked for breast cancer. She has survived it twice, the last time being 11 years ago and she will be a 20 year survivor next year. Being the primary caregiver, I saw firsthand the inside of many oncology offices, cancer treatment hospitals and radiation clinics. There are so many other forms of cancer that need the same attention as breast cancer. There are several that have a minimal chance of surviving 5 years after diagnosis still and no concerted efforts to help raise money for research. This is unacceptable in 2015.

With early detection, breast cancer has nowhere near the 5 year mortality rate it once had due to all the money that has poured in for research and education. That is a great thing and while I would love to see this form completely eradicated, however, there needs to be more focus and resources put on other forms of cancer at this point. Until we can eradicate all forms of cancer through more global research, I don't think any of them will ever get down to a 0% 5 year mortality rate.

[pgc4340]

while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%
Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

I understand your desire to go pink. I did not go pink until my dearest friend died from breast cancer age 53 years old. On her 6 year anniversary date of being declared cancer free, breast cancer was found to have metastasized to her liver. Another friend was recently diagnosed, and after surgery is under treatment. Another childhood friend had prostrate cancer, was doing very well, until it was also found to have metastasized to his liver. He is now on hospice at 68 years old. My neighbor across the street was found to have cancer in his brain, too late for treatment, he died within days at age 65. I also have friends who have lost children/grandchildren to childhood cancer, which relapsed again and again. Now I support all cancers, but now I donate more toward those with little promise of a cure because of the need for more research.

[Villager Joyce]

I understand your desire to go pink. I did not go pink until my dearest friend died from breast cancer age 53 years old. On her 6 year anniversary date of being declared cancer free, breast cancer was found to have metastasized to her liver. Another friend was recently diagnosed, and after surgery is under treatment. Another childhood friend had prostrate cancer, was doing very well, until it was also found to have metastasized to his liver. He is now on hospice at 68 years old. My neighbor across the street was found to have cancer in his brain, too late for treatment, he died within days at age 65. I also have friends who have lost children/grandchildren to childhood cancer, which relapsed again and again. Now I support all cancers, but now I donate more toward those with little promise of a cure because of the need for more research.

I wish I could have some of what you have in your heart. You have every reason to be negative, but your message is a positive one with hope. Thank you for posting.

[lynnschindel]

It's hard to believe that anyone would campaign for people NOT to support curing cancer of any type! I'm a survivor of breast cancer - one of the lucky ones because I caught it very early. Cancer, in all its forms, is non-partisan in its deadliness. When the doctor says to you, "I'm sorry - it's malignant" nothing can prepare you for the fear that makes your blood run cold. I hope you never hear those words. And by the way, a lot of men get breast cancer, too. So, please don't be a "boob" and be selective in your support of a cure.

[goodtimesintv]

they have but nobody created a campaign for them that appealed to women as well. no pink ribbons or cute clothes and hats and bags to buy in pink for a disease that almost always kills. to say that men didn't campaign because they were too busy with viagra is just obscene.

Oh, really?

Here's a good example:

Prostate Cancer Therapy Too Good to Be True Explodes Health Costs

“Imagine a prostate cancer therapy that has almost no side effects. Hospitals say it exists and they’re vying to be among the first to offer it.

Too bad the treatment may not work as well as advertised and could boost America’s already spiraling health-care costs.

The technology uses narrowly focused proton beams to deliver precisely targeted blasts of radiation. The particle beams are delivered by 500-ton machines in facilities that cost from $100 million to $200 million, and can require a football-field sized building to house.

A typical treatment costs about $50,000, twice as much as traditional radiation therapy though it is usually covered by Medicare or private insurance......

....The easiest group to market to in the country is a group of men worrying about the functioning of their pen**es,” said Paul Levy, former head of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston....

Prostate Cancer Therapy Too Good to Be True Explodes Health Cost - Bloomberg Business (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-03-26/prostate-cancer-therapy-too-good-to-be-true-explodes-health-cost)