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Guest
10-01-2015, 06:23 PM
and as usual he had absolutely nothing of any substance to say (SOP) except push on the gun issue....AGAIN.

It is a good thing the networks suck up to the office which he certainly has no idea about at all. All talk waste of time in chief!!!

Guest
10-01-2015, 07:34 PM
Every shooter is always on prescription medication! Remember Cain killed Able with a rock! Guns do not kill - people kill!

Guest
10-01-2015, 08:29 PM
Did we get the shooters name yet??

Guest
10-01-2015, 08:50 PM
it is taking a very long time to release the shooter's identity. this makes me jump to dark thoughts of terrorism links. i guess we shall find out eventually.

Guest
10-01-2015, 08:57 PM
Every shooter is always on prescription medication! Remember Cain killed Able with a rock! Guns do not kill - people kill!

Good folk tale told in every culture.

However, to reality, would a person armed with rock have been able to kill 10 college students? No. Would he have been able to do that with a knife? No.

However, now we will have right wing fools say that students SHOULD ALL be armed at college levels so they can protect themselves.

IN THE WORDS OF COL. SHERMAN T. POTTER - HORSE HOCKEY!

Guest
10-01-2015, 09:33 PM
Have former detectives armed on college campuses. End of story. If Christian, the student was shot in head. If not, shot in leg. Hmmm wonder what God this guy followed

Guest
10-01-2015, 09:48 PM
Mental health care is the answer, not gun laws.

Guest
10-01-2015, 09:56 PM
This is all time low for president again. We didn't even know names of victims and he's politically blaming NRA. He is a disgrace. He didn't say a word about the 49 shot in Chicago last weekend.

Guest
10-02-2015, 06:24 AM
This is all time low for president again. We didn't even know names of victims and he's politically blaming NRA. He is a disgrace. He didn't say a word about the 49 shot in Chicago last weekend.

Every country the world order goes into they remove the guns of the people very early in the game. It is not so easy with America! In the Bible Jesus says if you do not have a sword sell your cloak and get one.

Guest
10-02-2015, 06:35 AM
Mental health care is the answer, not gun laws.

I absolutely agree with this.

Guest
10-02-2015, 07:22 AM
I am a gun owner. I own both long gun and hand guns.

WE NEED STRICT GUN CONTROL LAWS NOW.

Guest
10-02-2015, 07:34 AM
I am a gun owner. I own both long gun and hand guns.

WE NEED STRICT GUN CONTROL LAWS NOW.

I am not a gun owner.

Just inserting this into the conversation and hope to hear comments.

From what I understand, the state of Oregon has all the components that gun control advocates call for.

My second comment is hearing ex police officers talk about their careers and the lack of guns involved in crimes they were involved in that were legally purchased, which means gun control laws would not have any impact.

I hear no conversation or very little about the mental health of our country.

Just adding to the conversation because I do not think it is as black and white or simple as stricter gun control. Chicago has some of the strictest laws in the country.

Guest
10-02-2015, 07:39 AM
I might add and this is from my gut with no investigation, but seems to me we have so many "rights" about privacy that processing anything, including an employment application is hairy now.

And secondly, nobody talks about all the hate speak that is spewed all over this wonderful internet. Just check out that TOPIX site if you want to read unvarnished hate.

Lastly, I suggest that we have lost all regard and respect for two things that are slowly destroying us. Family and the Law. We seem to put ourselves ahead of any law and distort the family in so many ways.

Guest
10-02-2015, 08:00 AM
We are now hearing he's black with ties to Islam. Omg what a shock!!

Guest
10-02-2015, 08:08 AM
Hearing Christians shot in head and non Christians in leg. Gun laws or no gun laws with borders wide open the Muslims continue entering. So glad I'm a senior now and will be checking out soon so I don't have to witness what is coming. Kids today too busy playing on their phones in their self absorbed world to even know. We are a country destroying from within and you can look toward the lacl of Leadership to thank, Hollywood, the libs, the destruction of the family, and the just plain stupid

Guest
10-02-2015, 08:47 AM
I am a gun owner. I own both long gun and hand guns.

WE NEED STRICT GUN CONTROL LAWS NOW.

Exactly what "strict gun control laws" do you want to improve on? Because we have strict gun control laws. Almost ALL gun related incidents are related to illegally obtained guns, by perpetrators that would not normally be able to purchase a gun legally. What more do you wish?

Do you want better knife control laws? How about making sure all the little league kids register their bats?

We have a mental control issue, not weapon control. I learned gun control in the Marines. Sight alignment, controlled breathing, gently squeeze the trigger. Gun control.

The constitution protects these kids so that they can watch violent TV and movies, play violent video games where they KILL others, and explicit sex. When you get rid of morals, you leave a vacuum for deviant behavior. Better get used to it, because if it ain't guns, then it will be bombs, knives, bats, axes, steel pipes, cars, etc. Can't get rid of the deviant mentality, so why attempt to get rid of the one defensive device that we have to protect ourselves? We can't carry a Cop around with us 24 hrs a day, and a security guard is very expensive. A good person with a legally purchased gun may be the one person that will save your life, and yet you won't even know he has it all these years until you find yourself in a dangerous situation.

If you want to get rid of violent behavior, you would be better off attempting to cull the deviant DNA gene in newborns. Yes, I am being facetious.

Besides, why do folks worry about a couple dozen school kids, when Planned Parenthood is murdering more black kids in one year than the amount born? More children are killed by abortion than are killed by guns. More children are killed by drugs than by guns. Actually, more people are killed by doctors than by guns.

Most of this was NOT in response to your comment, just throwing in my two cents.

Guest
10-02-2015, 08:58 AM
Good folk tale told in every culture.

However, to reality, would a person armed with rock have been able to kill 10 college students? No. Would he have been able to do that with a knife? No.

However, now we will have right wing fools say that students SHOULD ALL be armed at college levels so they can protect themselves.

IN THE WORDS OF COL. SHERMAN T. POTTER - HORSE HOCKEY!

Would he be able to do that with an automobile? Yes.

Guest
10-02-2015, 09:22 AM
I will repeat what I just posted in the regular section of TOTV.

It is not just the guns!!! It is gun avaialability in a very permissive, anything goes and is allowed society with little or no enforcement or involvement.

The continuous exposure to violence in our society becomes allowable at an eralier and earlier age every year. The movies, television, 24/7 medias all promote and exploit violence and promote in your face and thug like behavior. Add in the catalysts of drug availability and not enforcing existing laws all contribute to what our society has bred and become.

The guns have been around since our beginnings. The rampant violence is a funtion of our so called modern day society that refuses to risk hurting someones feelings no matter what they do.

It is not just the guns. Our society promotes and thrives on violence without enforcement.

Guest
10-02-2015, 09:27 AM
More Obama acting and wasting time:

NationalJournal (http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/74252/facing-long-odds-obama-vows-another-try-gun-regulation?mref=home)

And of course the usual me and I Obama self promoting:

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=38185&from=allstories

Words. Words and more words.

Actions? None!

Added value? The usual, none!

= the usual waste of time.

Guest
10-02-2015, 09:47 AM
80% of gun related deaths are gang related.

80% of those deaths are drug related, but liberals want to legalize drugs and ban guns. Go figure.

Guest
10-02-2015, 09:51 AM
It's fact that there are more gun related deaths in cities like D.C. with the strictest gun control laws than all of the rest of the country combined.

Guest
10-02-2015, 09:54 AM
6,000 shootings in Chicago since 2012 where there are strict gun laws and Not a word from Obama about it.??? Doesn't fit the agenda, the black on black crime??

Guest
10-02-2015, 09:59 AM
Would he be able to do that with an automobile? Yes.

BUT, he did not use a car. He used a GUN!

Do not try the "what if..." game. Use the reality situation.

Guest
10-02-2015, 10:18 AM
BUT, he did not use a car. He used a GUN!

Do not try the "what if..." game. Use the reality situation.

OK a dose of reality:

High gun crimes in Washington DC, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.

High black involvement in gun crimes in in Washington, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.

Strictest gun laws in Washington, CHicago and New York.

The strict gun control laws have no effect on gun availability or gun incident frequencies.

Any wonder why these data are not used in speeches?

Guest
10-02-2015, 10:37 AM
OK a dose of reality:

High gun crimes in Washington DC, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.

High black involvement in gun crimes in in Washington, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.

Strictest gun laws in Washington, CHicago and New York.

The strict gun control laws have no effect on gun availability or gun incident frequencies.

Any wonder why these data are not used in speeches?

Another interesting but never spoken of statistic:
There are twice as many gun related deaths perpetrated by blacks than whites. Does gun control mean we stop selling guns to blacks? No, because most of those gun related deaths were utilizing illegally obtained guns.

Guest
10-02-2015, 10:46 AM
BUT, he did not use a car. He used a GUN!

Do not try the "what if..." game. Use the reality situation.

The point was, if someone wants to kill another person, they will...using any means available (e.g automobile, pressure-cooker bomb, etc.). I guess you missed the point, not surprising, really, when you olny see the world from an anti-gun ownership viewpoint.

Guest
10-02-2015, 10:53 AM
The UK has very strict gun control laws. But, they have more crime by knives than we do gun crimes per capita. Basically, by percent the UK has twice as many knife crimes as the U.S. has gun crimes.

Guns and knives don't kill people, people kill people. Ban the people and keep the guns and you will have no deaths by guns. Keep the people and ban the guns, and you will still have murders/crime. It's a no brainer.

Guest
10-02-2015, 10:57 AM
BUT, he did not use a car. He used a GUN!

Do not try the "what if..." game. Use the reality situation.

Take away the perpetrator, did the gun commit the murders?

I've been keeping a close eye on my guns and not one of them have committed a crime since I have had them. The moment one of them goes out and commits a crime, being a law abiding citizen, I plan to turn it in to be prosecuted.

Guest
10-02-2015, 10:57 AM
From the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC 24/7: Saving Lives, Protecting People.

"Every day, almost 30 people in the United States die in motor vehicle crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. This amounts to one death every 51 minutes. The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $59 billion."

Where is the liberal outrage? I guess it doesn't fit your political agenda. Have another beer.:beer3:

Guest
10-02-2015, 11:01 AM
From the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC 24/7: Saving Lives, Protecting People.

"Every day, almost 30 people in the United States die in motor vehicle crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. This amounts to one death every 51 minutes. The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more than $59 billion."

Where is the liberal outrage? I guess it doesn't fit your political agenda. Have another beer.:beer3:

Hmmm, which one should we ban, the car or the alcohol?

Guest
10-02-2015, 11:07 AM
Dear guests:

The most telling aspect of this tragedy was that the perpetrator's blog that he wanted national attention. Duh? so what do the news outlet do provided 24/7 coverage and will be featuring this incident for political purposes until the ad nauseam. Kudos to the Police Chief for refusing to give the perp any chance of press

Obama did his due diligence and dispatch and it showed again. the victims were white the perp black. the cause radicalism His address was so practiced it sounded like a kid learning how to read ....See spot. see spot run. since the issue was radicalism Valerie Jarett called him and told him to make political hay and blame it on guns just as she told him to blame Benghazi on a video

I'll bet the parents of that young woman killed by the illegal in Calif are still waiting by the phone for a call from Obama

Progressives appear to be reactionaries given their responses of gun control, climate change and protection of lions. Wonder why they do not show more concerned for the unborn?

Clearly guns are not the issue but progressives don't like to be confused by the facts

Blame misguided security policies by this Admin. blame misguided mental health laws that prevent a mental ill person the benefit of a support system such as that of his/her family. Blame hypocrites in Hollywood who admonish acts such as this but continue to produce violent and vile movies clamourizing gangsters, drugs, sex and murders and even serial killers.

I am so fed up with progressives and their illogical mutterings and over kill remedies.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
10-02-2015, 11:14 AM
Hmmm, which one should we ban, the car or the alcohol?

I guess the bigger question is, which would you ban?

Guest
10-02-2015, 11:19 AM
If this shooter in oregon made his choices to kill, shoot in the head, based on whether or not the killed were "Christian" why is this not called a terror attack?

Guest
10-02-2015, 11:27 AM
I guess the bigger question is, which would you ban?

I think I would ban the liberals and keep both the cars and the alcohol. No liberals, very little crime. The rest of the U.S. is too busy working for a living, to get into trouble. No time to think of ideas for getting into trouble if you are working. Liberals gone, problem gone. Conservatives see a crime, they take care of it immediately, not via psychological counseling and probation. We don't make excuses for the criminal. We kill them. Problem solved. Cost=less than a buck for a bullet. Instead of the family suing the state because of their scumbag thug relative, make them pay for the cost of any overtime, mortuary services, funeral and burial. No one should be able to make money off of a thug relative.

Guest
10-02-2015, 11:37 AM
Take away the perpetrator, did the gun commit the murders?

I've been keeping a close eye on my guns and not one of them have committed a crime since I have had them. The moment one of them goes out and commits a crime, being a law abiding citizen, I plan to turn it in to be prosecuted.

The question is - have you EVER committed a crime with your guns? Maybe something as minor as walking into bar area of a restaurant while carrying? Since there is no way of tracking who you are - you can be honest with your answer.

Guest
10-02-2015, 11:46 AM
Conservatives see a crime, they take care of it immediately, not via psychological counseling and probation. We don't make excuses for the criminal. :loco:We kill them.:loco::loco: Problem solved. Cost=less than a buck for a bullet. Instead of the family suing the state because of their scumbag thug relative, :rant-rave:make them pay for the cost of any overtime, mortuary services, funeral and burial. No one should be able to make money off of a thug relative.:loco:

Wow!

Advocating for immediate execution for ANY type of crime is rather stiff, isn't it?

Purse snatching, shoplifting, tax cheating, speeding in your golf cart, sex on the square all get a bullet to the back of the head in Conservative's viewpoint?

Guest
10-02-2015, 12:50 PM
Wow!

Advocating for immediate execution for ANY type of crime is rather stiff, isn't it?

Purse snatching, shoplifting, tax cheating, speeding in your golf cart, sex on the square all get a bullet to the back of the head in Conservative's viewpoint?

Another typical liberal response. Are you sure that you aren't Obama? If not a bad deal, then war? Naw, all liberals are of like mind.

Guest
10-02-2015, 12:52 PM
The question is - have you EVER committed a crime with your guns? Maybe something as minor as walking into bar area of a restaurant while carrying? Since there is no way of tracking who you are - you can be honest with your answer.

Nope, never walked into a bar with my gun. How about you? Have you ever smoked marijuana? Have you ever exceeded the speed limit? Have you ever driven through a stop sign without stopping first? Give it a break, no one is buying it. Liberals are the problem, not guns.

Guest
10-02-2015, 12:55 PM
Wow!

Advocating for immediate execution for ANY type of crime is rather stiff, isn't it?

Purse snatching, shoplifting, tax cheating, speeding in your golf cart, sex on the square all get a bullet to the back of the head in Conservative's viewpoint?

Nope, attacking from behind is a liberal thing.

Unlike you and your messiah in the White House, I don't believe that it's an either choice, a bad deal or a war.

Guest
10-02-2015, 01:11 PM
The question is - have you EVER committed a crime with your guns? Maybe something as minor as walking into bar area of a restaurant while carrying? Since there is no way of tracking who you are - you can be honest with your answer.

It's legal to carry concealed into a restaurant that has a bar in it, if the primary purpose of the restaurant is to sell food, not alcohol. The law states that you cannot enter an establishment that has the primary function of selling alcohol.

As a matter of fact, if you fear my being a concealed carry citizen, then wear a shirt with the word Liberal on it and if you run into any trouble on the street where I happen to be, I'll make sure to stay out of the way and not interfere. I'll let you counsel with the dirtbag, and go about my personal business. There is no law requiring me to assist you. Hopefully, a cop or medic will be there before you bleed out from your misunderstanding.

Guest
10-02-2015, 01:15 PM
Wow!

Advocating for immediate execution for ANY type of crime is rather stiff, isn't it?

Purse snatching, shoplifting, tax cheating, speeding in your golf cart, sex on the square all get a bullet to the back of the head in Conservative's viewpoint?

Hmmm, you read a lot more into that post than I did. Do you always jump to extremes?

Guest
10-02-2015, 01:18 PM
If this shooter in oregon made his choices to kill, shoot in the head, based on whether or not the killed were "Christian" why is this not called a terror attack?

Does it matter? Maybe if he shouted "Praise God!" we could label it terrorism. It's much easier to take advantage of this while it is still hot and call it a need for gun control. Hurry, jump on the wagon before it slows down.

Guest
10-02-2015, 01:27 PM
and as usual he had absolutely nothing of any substance to say (SOP) except push on the gun issue....AGAIN.

It is a good thing the networks suck up to the office which he certainly has no idea about at all. All talk waste of time in chief!!!

I am anything but a fan of President Obama on just about anything and have expressed that loud and clear on this forum for years,

HOWEVER

I understand his anger and his frustration; I really do.

I am not a gun owner; never have been. BUT.....

USA leads the world in shootings like this ? Why ?

Ok....in no logical order at all...

1. Why does anyone need so many guns ? Why does not a collector need to declare himself a collector and be on record.

2. Why do so many multiple magazine guns need to be held personally ?

3. Why do we not ever look at what has happened in this country that has all these hateful shooting ? The law has NO respect. The family has NO respect. We seem to obey only laws that we want and make light of it. THIS IS THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM, NOT THE GUNS THEMSELVES.

4. Why do we tolerate the constant killing of people under the guise of gangs ? Are we so sensitive to race issues that we allow this kind of violence, where illegal guns are used to kill one race basically while we turn all our attention on media and elsewhere on on misguided policeman ?

5. Why are we not magnifying the family issues that seem to always be behind these shooters ?

Ok...did my venting but as a country we just ignore what I think are the problems. I agree with those who say guns dont kill, but that is not enough.
I am also mad and angry and I join the President in that emotion.

Guest
10-02-2015, 02:13 PM
If you don't like guns, then don't buy one.

"USA leads the world in shootings like this ? Why ?"
Because we lead the world in mental cases like this.

"1. Why does anyone need so many guns ?"
Is having a bunch of guns the problem? Are the killers, gun collectors? I haven't seen any evidence of this.

I think that some of you are just frustrated at the amount of mental illness, not at the instrument used to kill others. Do you really think that getting rid of guns is going to hide or alleviate the problem?

The problem is not guns. It's mental illness. What's related to mental illness? Morals, ethics, conscience, environment, responsibility, etc. Take away the moral standards, making respect for others a non-issue then you are bound to have problems with the law.

Less church attendance
No respect for the flag and country
violent TV and movies
Violent video games
Sexual deviancy in TV, Movies and news
Acceptable PUBLIC sexual deviancy
Public vulgar language
Unacceptable public behavior, allowed under supposed constitutional venue.
Acceptable violation of ethics (ie, improper handling of classified material, lying, etc)
Slackening of law enforcement
Adultery

Need I go on? These are indicators of a sliding of American standards and civility.

Guns are an instrument of self defense and hunting. If it was safe enough to leave our homes unlocked and vehicles unlocked, then there would be no need for self defense.

If there is no longer a belief in God then there is no longer any fear of repercussion for doing evil. If our high American standards are no longer valid, then America will degenerate into chaos and criminality.

Guest
10-02-2015, 03:33 PM
Liberals say it is impossible to control a few million illegals aliens so they want to legalize them, but they say they can control a billion legally owned guns.

Guest
10-02-2015, 06:42 PM
If you don't like guns, then don't buy one.

"USA leads the world in shootings like this ? Why ?"
Because we lead the world in mental cases like this.

"1. Why does anyone need so many guns ?"
Is having a bunch of guns the problem? Are the killers, gun collectors? I haven't seen any evidence of this.

I think that some of you are just frustrated at the amount of mental illness, not at the instrument used to kill others. Do you really think that getting rid of guns is going to hide or alleviate the problem?

The problem is not guns. It's mental illness. What's related to mental illness? Morals, ethics, conscience, environment, responsibility, etc. Take away the moral standards, making respect for others a non-issue then you are bound to have problems with the law.

Less church attendance
No respect for the flag and country
violent TV and movies
Violent video games
Sexual deviancy in TV, Movies and news
Acceptable PUBLIC sexual deviancy
Public vulgar language
Unacceptable public behavior, allowed under supposed constitutional venue.
Acceptable violation of ethics (ie, improper handling of classified material, lying, etc)
Slackening of law enforcement
Adultery

Need I go on? These are indicators of a sliding of American standards and civility.

Guns are an instrument of self defense and hunting. If it was safe enough to leave our homes unlocked and vehicles unlocked, then there would be no need for self defense.

If there is no longer a belief in God then there is no longer any fear of repercussion for doing evil. If our high American standards are no longer valid, then America will degenerate into chaos and criminality.

Thank you. This message needs to be repeated often as possible. I do and have been here and in the regular forum.

I do not understand why more Americans do not see or comprehend the degeneration of morals and America complimented by the permissive anything goes and by all means don't say something when you see something for fear of offending someone.

If nothing changes morally, in law enforcement and more doing what is right then....today may well be as good as we will ever see it in the foreseeable future.

All one has to do is look back from whence we have come and what is fully acceptable today that not too long ago was either taboo, or just common sense not done or condoned.

We are living the saying....going to hell in a handbasket.

Guest
10-02-2015, 06:52 PM
Try to not discredit the author or the source, but read the entire article.
Set aside the ones you don't believe or doubt.
No matter what it is an ugly picture that is closer to the truth than most of us want to acknowledge.
We just never get to see it all in one list like this.

Absolutely confirms....IT AIN'T THE GUNS:

100 Facts About The Moral Collapse Of America That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe (http://thetruthwins.com/archives/100-facts-about-the-moral-collapse-of-america-that-are-almost-too-crazy-to-believe)

Guest
10-03-2015, 09:43 AM
...and now we have Jeb Bush saying "stuff happens" when speaking about the Oregon college killings. Good going, Jebbie. That is a sure way to show Americans how you feel about gun violence. Just quit now and throw your support to Buckwheat.

Guest
10-03-2015, 10:00 AM
...and now we have Jeb Bush saying "stuff happens" when speaking about the Oregon college killings. Good going, Jebbie. That is a sure way to show Americans how you feel about gun violence. Just quit now and throw your support to Buckwheat.

Nice try again attempting to ignore what the intent of the comments were and going after the semantics and as usual ignoring the point of the comment.

So predictable. So :censored: shallow.

Guest
10-03-2015, 10:09 AM
...and now we have Jeb Bush saying "stuff happens" when speaking about the Oregon college killings. Good going, Jebbie. That is a sure way to show Americans how you feel about gun violence. Just quit now and throw your support to Buckwheat.

I can see why liberals are stupid enough to support Hilary, after reading your comment. I dare you to post his complete statement, instead of two words of it.

When Hilary was questioned about the deaths in Benghazi, she replied "what difference does it make?"

Of course, you probably didn't eve read or listen to Bush's complete statement. I am sure that you got your information from Huffington Post or some other teenager from your on-line video game.

Guest
10-03-2015, 11:17 AM
This is all time low for president again. We didn't even know names of victims and he's politically blaming NRA. He is a disgrace. He didn't say a word about the 49 shot in Chicago last weekend.

When this man was first elected, I actually thought he should be given a chance. Immediately during discussions on health care....he called them discussions; I found them to be lectures....he copped this attitude and it has remained

not just the fourth quarter. It’s trash talk time.
President Barack Obama’s never done a good job hiding his disdain for the people he doesn’t like—a long list that includes reporters, Republicans, pretty much every member of Congress, the foreign leaders he considers petty and childish (Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyanu most of all). Everyone would see things his way, he tends to project, if only they were a little smarter and thought it through as thoroughly as he has.
Story Continued Below
Usually when he’s explaining why the world’s wrong and he’s right, he’s looking down his nose and drily lecturing, getting deep into wonky policy explications that leave even his staff yawning and too confused or bored to explain.
On Friday afternoon in the State Dining Room, at a wide-ranging press conference, he was just having a good time.
He showed up ready to mock, with an unimpressed, exaggerated upside down smile just one right cheek mole short of a Robert DeNiro impression. The smile popped up again and again, as he swept his hand to dismiss questions, cutting off one reporter reciting criticism of him versus Putin with a wrap-it-up finger motion and saying, “I get it,” then sneering through a takedown that ended with him taking a beat like he’d been training at the Friar’s Club: “So – what was the question again?”
On Jeb Bush's dismissal of a school shooting in Oregon as “stuff happens": “I don’t even think I need to react to that one.''
On the upcoming fight with Congress over the debt ceiling, with a laugh: “I’m sure the speaker’s race complicates these negotiations.''
The most pronounced smirk came as he brushed off people who don’t agree with him on guns: “There are all sort of crackpot theories floating around,” Obama said, “some of which are sometimes ratified by elected officials in the other party.”


Read more: Obama’s trash talk - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/obama-putin-congress-gun-control-214399#ixzz3nWQlLRzZ)

Guest
10-03-2015, 03:26 PM
Obama is nothing more than a ghetto baby, that has had everything given to him and yet believes everything is owed to him. His disdain for tradition and establishment is reminiscent of a two year liberal arts student that has a petulant tantrum when made to rise from bed before noon. He believes he knows everything when the fact is that he knows nothing. He is a disgrace and failure when lined up with ALL previous presidents. A clown in the White House is funny in a TV comedy for barely one season. But, a persistent rerun of yesteryear SNL episodes in the White House gets old fast. In his last days of office, he will have to be watched especially close so that he doesn't destroy the office before vacating the position.

Guest
10-03-2015, 03:27 PM
Worst 8 years in the 21 century.

Guest
10-03-2015, 05:21 PM
There were 61 gun homicides in the City Of Chicago in the month of September. Did you hear anything from Mr. O'Bonehead on that? Hell no. These are his former constituents in a city with some of the toughest gun laws in the country. O'Bama is nothing more than a demagogue. These mass shootings are a society issue, not a gun issue. Our society produces these people who watch TV violence, movie violence, video game shootings, no limitations on anything I do because I am me. WTF? Why aren't the democrats attacking their Hollywood friends? They're accessories before the fact. It's not a constitutional issue. When a drunk gets in a car a kills someone, do they shout get rid of the cars? A heck of a lot more people are killed by drunk drivers every year. I don't like liberal reporters or the liberal press. Should we get rid of the first amendment? I don't like criminals hiding behind the law. Should we get rid of the fourth and fifth amendments? Some people just don't like guns. Too bad. If guns were banned on the whole earth, there would be people who build them and sell them. Heroine and cocaine are illegal aren't they? No junkies around are there? Maybe we should work harder at making better people and better citizens. Stop attacking constitutional rights and leave the constitution alone. Far as I know, none of the first 10 amendments take priority over the other.

Guest
10-03-2015, 05:31 PM
There were 61 gun homicides in the City Of Chicago in the month of September. Did you hear anything from Mr. O'Bonehead on that? Hell no. These are his former constituents in a city with some of the toughest gun laws in the country. O'Bama is nothing more than a demagogue. These mass shootings are a society issue, not a gun issue. Our society produces these people who watch TV violence, movie violence, video game shootings, no limitations on anything I do because I am me. WTF? Why aren't the democrats attacking their Hollywood friends? They're accessories before the fact. It's not a constitutional issue. When a drunk gets in a car a kills someone, do they shout get rid of the cars? A heck of a lot more people are killed by drunk drivers every year. I don't like liberal reporters or the liberal press. Should we get rid of the first amendment? I don't like criminals hiding behind the law. Should we get rid of the fourth and fifth amendments? Some people just don't like guns. Too bad. If guns were banned on the whole earth, there would be people who build them and sell them. Heroine and cocaine are illegal aren't they? No junkies around are there? Maybe we should work harder at making better people and better citizens. Stop attacking constitutional rights and leave the constitution alone. Far as I know, none of the first 10 amendments take priority over the other.

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Guest
10-03-2015, 06:26 PM
There were 61 gun homicides in the City Of Chicago in the month of September. Did you hear anything from Mr. O'Bonehead on that? Hell no. These are his former constituents in a city with some of the toughest gun laws in the country. O'Bama is nothing more than a demagogue. These mass shootings are a society issue, not a gun issue. Our society produces these people who watch TV violence, movie violence, video game shootings, no limitations on anything I do because I am me. WTF? Why aren't the democrats attacking their Hollywood friends? They're accessories before the fact. It's not a constitutional issue. When a drunk gets in a car a kills someone, do they shout get rid of the cars? A heck of a lot more people are killed by drunk drivers every year. I don't like liberal reporters or the liberal press. Should we get rid of the first amendment? I don't like criminals hiding behind the law. Should we get rid of the fourth and fifth amendments? Some people just don't like guns. Too bad. If guns were banned on the whole earth, there would be people who build them and sell them. Heroine and cocaine are illegal aren't they? No junkies around are there? Maybe we should work harder at making better people and better citizens. Stop attacking constitutional rights and leave the constitution alone. Far as I know, none of the first 10 amendments take priority over the other.

Liberals thrive on "feel good" legislation. Pass something, anything, and they will feel better. The ineffectiveness of any new legislation will make no difference to them as long as they feel that they have done something to solve the problem.

Guest
10-03-2015, 10:29 PM
Liberals thrive on "feel good" legislation. Pass something, anything, and they will feel better. The ineffectiveness of any new legislation will make no difference to them as long as they feel that they have done something to solve the problem.

And of corse we have the Obama approach which is talk about the problem (only the ones he wants to talk about)........he then feels good that he has addressed the issue. No action, no follow up, no enforcement, no commitment........no nothing.......just talk!

Guest
10-03-2015, 11:26 PM
It's legal to carry concealed into a restaurant that has a bar in it, if the primary purpose of the restaurant is to sell food, not alcohol. The law states that you cannot enter an establishment that has the primary function of selling alcohol.


If I see you or any of your John Wayne (the coward) buddies sitting in the bar part of a restaurant with a concealed weapon, I will call 911 and have your sorry butt perp-walked out in cuffs.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
10-04-2015, 04:57 AM
If I see you or any of your John Wayne (the coward) buddies sitting in the bar part of a restaurant with a concealed weapon, I will call 911 and have your sorry butt perp-walked out in cuffs.

Personal Best Regards:

You won't see me sitting in a bar. I don't drink. But, even if I was in a bar, if you sight my CCW then feel free to do what you believe is right. You may be a bit mistaken as to the definition of coward, if you are the one that calls 911. By the way, I am the one that "perp-walked" the bad guy in the past. I've never been "perp-walked" anywhere at any time.
And you might want to get your priorities straight. It's the bad guys you need to be afraid of, not the good citizen. And remember where the mass killings take place, in gun free zones like schools, theaters and anyplace where guns are not allowed....maybe a bar?
John Wayne "the coward?" Where did that come from?
I doubt anyone would call me a coward, especially to my face, but that is your prerogative as an anonymous blogger. Just be careful in real life when you get overconfident and publicly name call. This coward might just be the one that saves your butt by being in the right place at the right time, carrying his CCW.

Guest
10-05-2015, 09:22 AM
We have to many people that don't know squat about guns & they're trying to tell us all about guns. Obama, is blaming the NRA & the NRA hasn't got nothing to do with someone killing someone. If Obama is trying to shove guns laws down our throats, he ought to use his own city of Chicago as a model role & pass a gun law their first & then we'll see how the gun laws works before he screws up the whole country. Believe me if he can't do it there how will he get the guns from the criminals over the rest of the country!

Guest
10-05-2015, 09:57 AM
We have to many people that don't know squat about guns & they're trying to tell us all about guns. Obama, is blaming the NRA & the NRA hasn't got nothing to do with someone killing someone. If Obama is trying to shove guns laws down our throats, he ought to use his own city of Chicago as a model role & pass a gun law their first & then we'll see how the gun laws works before he screws up the whole country. Believe me if he can't do it there how will he get the guns from the criminals over the rest of the country!

He's against the NRA because they won't support him. And he is against anyone that won't laugh at his jokes. As a matter of fact, he is derisive and UN-presidential against anyone that doesn't agree with him. He gives the prefect example of the term "petulant." The more he speaks the more stupid he appears. His motto is "leading from behind." He will be known in history as the "rear end." He should have a sign put on his desk that says "the rear end stops here."

Guest
10-05-2015, 10:03 AM
We have to many people that don't know squat about guns & they're trying to tell us all about guns. Obama, is blaming the NRA & the NRA hasn't got nothing to do with someone killing someone. If Obama is trying to shove guns laws down our throats, he ought to use his own city of Chicago as a model role & pass a gun law their first & then we'll see how the gun laws works before he screws up the whole country. Believe me if he can't do it there how will he get the guns from the criminals over the rest of the country!

There is one reason and one reason only that Obama and most democrats keep yakking about gotta do something about guns is the voting block.

Believe me if he thought for one minute that joining the NRA and owning a gun would get them the majority vote they would be first in line to join and preach the virtues of gun ownership.

I was amused in one of many gotta do something speeches last week when he said the American people have spoken and they want something done about the mass shootings. And it was Washington's job to do the will of the people.

How in the hell can even Obama keep a straight face when mouthing the bold lie of touting being in the job to serve the will of the people.

ACA was overwhelmingly not wanted by we the people....wonder how that got passed?

Iran getting a bomb deal? Again most Americans overwhelmingly against the agreement.....how did our lawmakers pass that one?

He is a full blooded, 100%, two faced, lying, incompetent that's how.....along with the spineless lemmings in congress (that totally and completely ignored the will of the people).

Guest
10-05-2015, 10:05 AM
There is one reason and one reason only that Obama and most democrats keep yakking about gotta do something about guns is the voting block.

Believe me if he thought for one minute that joining the NRA and owning a gun would get them the majority vote they would be first in line to join and preach the virtues of gun ownership.

I was amused in one of many gotta do something speeches last week when he said the American people have spoken and they want something done about the mass shootings. And it was Washington's job to do the will of the people.

How in the hell can even Obama keep a straight face when mouthing the bold lie of touting being in the job to serve the will of the people.

ACA was overwhelmingly not wanted by we the people....wonder how that got passed?

Iran getting a bomb deal? Again most Americans overwhelmingly against the agreement.....how did our lawmakers pass that one?

He is a full blooded, 100%, two faced, lying, incompetent that's how.....along with the spineless lemmings in congress (that totally and completely ignored the will of the people).

Totally agree......:thumbup:

Guest
10-05-2015, 10:36 AM
Amen. I have a friend who's daughter was mugged in Chicago last week. Came up beside her out of nowhere and stuck a gun in her side. All she had was her cell phone and he took it and told her to run or he would shoot. Now if that was your daughter do you wish she had a gun and even time to maybe pull it out. Not me. Chances are the mugger would have another gun and maybe shot her in her attempt to defend herself.
Another situation. Shots ring out in the school. Your son (or daughter) take out their gun and looks around the corner to see the guy with a gun. Your child shoots and kills that person. EXCEPT is another student (good guy) who also is looking for the real bad guy. No, I don't want my son or daughter having a gun in college.